So GU 57 Where is the content?

BChizzle · 08-06-2010, 03:53 PM

Other then pushing RMT into our faces where exactly is the content for this GU?

ashen1973 · 08-06-2010, 04:03 PM

Was wondering this myself.

Bug fixes and the like are all well and good (and needed), but, we need more new content to see us through until the next expansion.

Next expac just announced as launching in Feb 11.

This means we get GU57 in August and GU58 in November.

Just been announced at fanfair that GU58 will include

Possible new event besides frost fell and nights of the dead.New itemization for sf bossesReitemization in 1-20SF Hot zonesMore armor pieces for marks

So, apart from a 'possible' new live event, no new 'content' here either (im sure if there was any new zones, dungeons or gameplay content it would have been mentioned before the above)

So, in each GU from Sundered Frontier launch to Velious launch the only new gameplay content we have seen is

New Halas (delayed SF expac content)

Battlegrounds (delayed SF content)

Icy keep raid zone (delayed SF content)

Underfoot Depths raid zone

Storyline system (new content? or just a fancying up of the quest journal)

PvP Warfields

New live event

(Many thanks to Feldon over at Eq2wire.com for the fan faire updates)

Titigabe · 08-06-2010, 04:15 PM

Yes, this is "an empty year" in terms of content ... S'F is really boring, too small dungeons, linear solo timelines, only two adventuring zones ... And a new farming system called Manaar. We were just out of Void Shards. The new X2 raid is way too hard for small Guilds and not in line with what we had with WoE wich is the best Guild experience I had.

Beside a new dungeon wich should be revealed at Fan Fair, I wonder what we'll have to wait until next Feb. I saw many people in my Guild who stopped playing EQ2 because they felt really disappointed and started getting bored.

The EQ2e annouce as well as the "revamp" (awful downgrade) of particule effects did not gave them the desire to come back at all ...

Thank you for ruining our community with such stupid decision.

ashen1973 · 08-06-2010, 04:21 PM

Titigabe wrote:

Yes, this is "an empty year" in terms of content ... S'F is really boring, too small dungeons, linear solo timelines, only two adventuring zones ... And a new farming system called Manaar. We were just out of Void Shards. The new X2 raid is way too hard for small Guilds and not in line with what we had with WoE wich is the best Guild experience I had.
Beside a new dungeon wich should be revealed at Fan Fair, I wonder what we'll have to wait until next Feb. I saw many people in my Guild who stopped playing EQ2 because they felt really disappointed and started getting bored.
The EQ2e annouce as well as the "revamp" (server downgrade) of particules effect did not gave them the desire to come back at all ...
Thank you for ruining our community with such stupid decision.

I can understand this

I started palying Eq2 at launch, played solidly through until TSo launched.

In November 09 I reached a point, for the first time, where I was not enjoying the game enough to login, this was 12 months after the last expac.

I started playing again just before SF launched. Made it until July (5 months after the expac) before boredom started to set in.

Im now in a position where I log in very rarely, the launch of EQ2x being what could well be the final straw :/

Paddyo · 08-06-2010, 06:34 PM

Perhaps its time the development team is reminded that this new 3 month update cycle was SUPPOSED to be so that we would get bigger and better updates.

And Smokejumper promised something "really exciting" with the next game update and then the excitment involved in what the new expansion was...I hope that EQ2 Extended isn't supposed to be that something exciting, because HELLO, the majority of your community is NOT excited about our game being stolen, stuck on a new server and then all new accounts being funnelled into that server with a new payment model.

Not exciting, at all.

Come on. Do something viable in three months, instead of fixing stuff that shouldn't have been broke in the first place.

Thunndar316 · 08-06-2010, 06:42 PM

Yeah try fixing Perah Celsis

Guy De Alsace · 08-06-2010, 10:19 PM

New expac will be released on EQ2X only more than likely. To ensure live dies even quicker than they hoped.

ElnAckom · 08-06-2010, 11:56 PM

The Mark comment reminds me to reiterate something I'd hoped to see rolled back: Can we eliminate the "trivialized" mechanic for Void Shard instances? Especially now that there is superior armor through other means, those of us who love questing and really enjoyed guild groups using mentoring to do Void Shard instances in Befallen and such miss that a great deal.

There's no incentive to take advantage of the content in those zones if they can only be accomplished at color-con. I understand the desire to hold a certain line on achieving things, but who on earth would invest the time necessary to get sufficient Void Shards for Shard Armor now?

Don't shut people out of deprecated content. It might have made sense before SF, but doesn't really now. Just my take.

Ofed · 08-07-2010, 03:07 AM

Guy De Alsace wrote:

New expac will be released on EQ2X only more than likely. To ensure live dies even quicker than they hoped.

no they will want to see how many people shell out the cash for the expac first.. but it will not matter this game will not make another 6 moths without anyrhing new in it...

BChizzle · 08-07-2010, 06:45 AM

Am I wrong for feeling ripped off here? Less updates but more content was what was promised while it seems they have spent their extra time not on content but on garbage.

I mean seriously am I not getting new zones to play in and new quests and new gear so that you guys can put a big SC on the UI?

ShinGoku · 08-07-2010, 07:05 AM

I don't really care about the station cash button, I really don't.

What I DO care about is new content going into game to keep things interesting enough to carry on playing till the new expac. This GU is pathetic, just pathetic. There is simply nothing to this update and its taken 3 months of paid time to do?!

Prove me wrong by all means and add some update notes to show more CONTENT being put in, in which case I will eat my humble pie and like it.

Myrien · 08-07-2010, 02:26 PM

Sesketh@Everfrost wrote:

The Mark comment reminds me to reiterate something I'd hoped to see rolled back: Can we eliminate the "trivialized" mechanic for Void Shard instances? Especially now that there is superior armor through other means, those of us who love questing and really enjoyed guild groups using mentoring to do Void Shard instances in Befallen and such miss that a great deal.
There's no incentive to take advantage of the content in those zones if they can only be accomplished at color-con. I understand the desire to hold a certain line on achieving things, but who on earth would invest the time necessary to get sufficient Void Shards for Shard Armor now?
Don't shut people out of deprecated content. It might have made sense before SF, but doesn't really now. Just my take.

You can still mentor down to as low as level 50 and do the void shard zones. They do get easier when you mentor down. You also have the advantage of getting AA, possible loot, and possible coin. SMILEY

Rick777 · 08-07-2010, 07:45 PM

BChizzle wrote:

Am I wrong for feeling ripped off here? Less updates but more content was what was promised while it seems they have spent their extra time not on content but on garbage.
I mean seriously am I not getting new zones to play in and new quests and new gear so that you guys can put a big SC on the UI?

Nope, you aren't wrong to feel that way. This whole time the only thing they have been working on is F2P and RMT. The whole sham of a "UI upgrade" is just to put that big SC button in our faces. I'm quite surprised that they actually thought we would buy that we were really getting an upgrade to the UI. I'm also curious as to what happened to less updates and more content.

Bilil · 08-08-2010, 12:52 AM

Yeah, kinda seems like they're just trying to force Extended down our throats, making graphics worse (SOGA and the particle effects) and just try to make us believe we should be happy. Lol.

ShinGoku · 08-08-2010, 06:09 PM

Like I said, perhaps there will be a surprise addition of stuff to do?

Shizune · 08-08-2010, 07:02 PM

I know being negative is frowned upon on these forums but looks like a pretty worthless GU to me.

Whilhelmina · 08-08-2010, 07:45 PM

Additions are :

- 3 new questlines in newbie zones (all but TD): pretty linear still, but, well, what would one expect? ...

- 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks.

- New Halas writs in Moors

So... 6 new questlines, 2 city tasks, a revamped Gorowyn (if it can be called an addition) and... er.. .well...

ah, yes, there is an addition : SC button and SC items on regular merchants...

Yeah, it's the RMT updtate... Give us all your $$$!

This update will be a big failure and is a big downgrade.

Cusashorn · 08-08-2010, 11:18 PM

I honestly wonder if Michael Eisner isn't running SoE or something, because I feel more and more betrayed with each passing day with this update.

Enica · 08-09-2010, 12:06 AM

Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:

Additions are :
- 3 new questlines in newbie zones (all but TD): pretty linear still, but, well, what would one expect? ...
- 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks.
- New Halas writs in Moors
So... 6 new questlines, 2 city tasks, a revamped Gorowyn (if it can be called an addition) and... er.. .well...
ah, yes, there is an addition : SC button and SC items on regular merchants...
Yeah, it's the RMT updtate... Give us all your $$$!
This update will be a big failure and is a big downgrade.

I've only run through the starting quests for New Halas since the update, but they added something new there - a 50% run speed horse. I've heard they did the same in Darklight. I keep meaning to run another character through there to see.

ccarro · 08-09-2010, 10:33 AM

It honestly feels like this game has been sold out. Enough with the RMT stuff sony. It's a turn off to new players and the community. Yeah it might bring in some cash but it has long term effects which are gonna kill the game and keep people from buying future sony games.

As for the game content...........where is it? Seriously. Quarterly updates were promised to bring bigger updates with more content. All the content that has been released since SF has been horrible. Icy Keep....really.....I mean, REALLY?!?! The Underfoot Depths is good for high end raiders but the majority of the player base wont venture far into it. Yes, Halas is a nice addition, but you can't give us one new starting area and take 2 away and try to claim you added content.

Here is what I think the player base would like. Add in a few more instances and one more raid zone early from the velious expansion. Do it as a lead in to the expansion or whatever. If this expansion is as big as it is claimed to be (which I doubt), then you should have plenty of content to do this.

Wolfsbaine · 08-09-2010, 11:59 AM

Well people forgot to mention the GU's before SF. The one where lucan was kidnapped. If I recall 2 updates before SF he was kidnapped and there was 3 quests evil side, and 2 quests good side that talked about that. There was some fun lore that came with those quests, but that was all. We did have 1 update that was only bug stomps which I do appreciate that. I am seeing us get less and less content. I didn't really care for SF. I did some of the Beta Testing and early into the Beta testing I lost interest in it. I didnt like the farming of shards during TSO, and I dont like the Marks, BG token, Seals, and Eci Token grinds of SF. I think it kinda sucks that you have to constantly farm zones to save up some type of token to get average, and even raid gear. Now we have this crap. I do love domino. She puts out great stuff. I just hate the TS grind from 1-90. I am seeing less of a reason to even bother with my sub. I would love to see things go back to the way they were when I fist started playing this game. You started out in the colonies, and then you would take the ships to your city and you would have to do a mini event. If you made a wiz in qeynos then you would start off as a mage at level one and then you would become a sorcerer, and if I am not mistaken you had to do a quest to become your subclass to be able to level up. Then at 19 had to do another quest to level to 20 and become your final class. Then we had our spirit shard runs when we died. It sucked when we died and had to go find our bodies, but we worked harder to keep from dying. I know I did. Some places I just tried to find the safest way to get my body back. EQ2 was alot harder back in those days, BUT I loved that. Now I can do the RAF thing with a friend and in 1d 6h of total gameplay I can PL a toon from 10 to 80. They wont have that much AA, but that is with 1 level 80+ toon mentoring. Plus the toon that is mentoring gets a couple levels out of the deal. EQ2 has been my first and only MMO out there, but I am starting to wonder about games like Star Trek Online. Dont get me wrong I have loved EQ2 since the first time I installed it and ran the game, just harder to keep an interest in it. I log on to chat in the channels more then anything.

ShinGoku · 08-10-2010, 06:24 PM

I'm starting to feel the same way.

Once you have gotten your toons leveled etc other than the finger nails on a blackboard style grinding of AA there isn't much to really do. Another shard run? /wrists

Laiina · 08-10-2010, 07:35 PM

Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:

Additions are :
- 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks....

Has anyone noticed the almost total lack of any new tradeskill quests for SF?

Alenna · 08-10-2010, 08:03 PM

Cusashorn wrote:

I honestly wonder if Michael Eisner isn't running SoE or something, because I feel more and more betrayed with each passing day with this update.

LOL as a life long disney fan I've been beginning to wonder about that myself.

Shiirr · 08-10-2010, 09:25 PM

Shizune@Nektulos wrote:

I know being negative is frowned upon on these forums but looks like a pretty worthless GU to me.

Unfortunately, since SmokeJumper has taken the reins, all that's left is to feel negative.

I generally am willing to let a few things slide (been playing since launch on a different account, so you know what I mean), but every time I log into the forums, I see another reason to quit playing. I talked friends & family into playing this game. Sorry, I mean I talked friends & family into playing EQ2; this really isn't EQ2 anymore. It's more like EQ2 at 95, senile, feeble, barely able to acknowledge someone entering the room, and awaiting the grim reaper. When they launch the F2P version, that'll be the reaper at the door.

On the upside, Rift should be out next year. SMILEY

Terrius · 08-10-2010, 09:37 PM

Shiirr@Blackburrow wrote:

Unfortunately, since SmokeJumper has taken the reins, all that's left is to feel negative.

QFTEven brenlo didnt make me hate him this much, this fast.

Obadiah · 08-13-2010, 01:26 PM

So, is that really it? I mean, UI changes, a few low level tradeskill quests, changes to low level abilities, unnecessary nerfs ... and no content?

EndevorX · 08-13-2010, 02:05 PM

Well, I don't think we can expect much.

The balance of power is not with EQ2's budget, atm.

Like they said, they're trying to focus on expansion content, and given that TSO and SF are meager in comparison to RoK, I think we can't really argue that we should let them try to make DOV somehow one-up SF...

Gaige · 08-13-2010, 03:27 PM

Seliri@Nagafen wrote:

The balance of power is not with EQ2's budget, atm.

We are consistently, constantly and progressively told that EQ2's budget should be fine because of all the money SC brings in, right?

So why the terribly small GUs, terribly small team and absolute lack of motivation by the team to do anything at all unless they can somehow charge more money for it.

Lord Destyn · 08-13-2010, 04:30 PM

Laiina wrote:

Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:
Additions are :
- 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks....
Has anyone noticed the almost total lack of any new tradeskill quests for SF?

Really? Sentinels Fate has WAY MORE TS quests then ANY other xpac before it. You can literaly quest a crafter from 80-85 without ever crafting from a single recipe book, leaving 10 books of first combines for bonus xp to get 5 levels. Plus the TS signature quest for your crafting weapon. To be honest there has not been any crafting quests in updates since but w/ that much crafting content in the actual xpac, what did you really expect ?....cant have your cake AND eat it too.

08-06-2010, 04:03 PM	#2
ashen1973 Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The cellar under the stairs Posts: 1,220	Was wondering this myself. Bug fixes and the like are all well and good (and needed), but, we need more new content to see us through until the next expansion. Next expac just announced as launching in Feb 11. This means we get GU57 in August and GU58 in November. Just been announced at fanfair that GU58 will include Possible new event besides frost fell and nights of the dead.New itemization for sf bossesReitemization in 1-20SF Hot zonesMore armor pieces for marks So, apart from a 'possible' new live event, no new 'content' here either (im sure if there was any new zones, dungeons or gameplay content it would have been mentioned before the above) So, in each GU from Sundered Frontier launch to Velious launch the only new gameplay content we have seen is New Halas (delayed SF expac content) Battlegrounds (delayed SF content) Icy keep raid zone (delayed SF content) Underfoot Depths raid zone Storyline system (new content? or just a fancying up of the quest journal) PvP Warfields New live event (Many thanks to Feldon over at Eq2wire.com for the fan faire updates) __________________ " [our mistake was] to not just think we know the right direction without bringing the fans into the mix," he explained. "We made the cardinal sin of not listening, but assuming and we were wrong." --Quote from John Smedley, CEO of SOE, Oct 07

08-06-2010, 04:21 PM	#4
ashen1973 Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The cellar under the stairs Posts: 1,220	Titigabe wrote: Yes, this is "an empty year" in terms of content ... S'F is really boring, too small dungeons, linear solo timelines, only two adventuring zones ... And a new farming system called Manaar. We were just out of Void Shards. The new X2 raid is way too hard for small Guilds and not in line with what we had with WoE wich is the best Guild experience I had. Beside a new dungeon wich should be revealed at Fan Fair, I wonder what we'll have to wait until next Feb. I saw many people in my Guild who stopped playing EQ2 because they felt really disappointed and started getting bored. The EQ2e annouce as well as the "revamp" (server downgrade) of particules effect did not gave them the desire to come back at all ... Thank you for ruining our community with such stupid decision. I can understand this I started palying Eq2 at launch, played solidly through until TSo launched. In November 09 I reached a point, for the first time, where I was not enjoying the game enough to login, this was 12 months after the last expac. I started playing again just before SF launched. Made it until July (5 months after the expac) before boredom started to set in. Im now in a position where I log in very rarely, the launch of EQ2x being what could well be the final straw :/ __________________ " [our mistake was] to not just think we know the right direction without bringing the fans into the mix," he explained. "We made the cardinal sin of not listening, but assuming and we were wrong." --Quote from John Smedley, CEO of SOE, Oct 07

08-06-2010, 06:34 PM	#5
Paddyo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 185	Perhaps its time the development team is reminded that this new 3 month update cycle was SUPPOSED to be so that we would get bigger and better updates. And Smokejumper promised something "really exciting" with the next game update and then the excitment involved in what the new expansion was...I hope that EQ2 Extended isn't supposed to be that something exciting, because HELLO, the majority of your community is NOT excited about our game being stolen, stuck on a new server and then all new accounts being funnelled into that server with a new payment model. Not exciting, at all. Come on. Do something viable in three months, instead of fixing stuff that shouldn't have been broke in the first place. __________________ Paddyo, #1 Halfling Templar on Antonia Bayle 90 Templar/90 Master Woodworker/450 Adorner/450 Tinkerer Stuue Griffon90 warden/ 90 Master Tailor & 450 Tinkerer Quasifrodo Jolie'Pitt 90 Brigand / 90 Master Alchemist Wokker Hexes'Strangers 82 Necromancer /90 Provisioner Feature Presentation 90 Troubador / 90 Armorer

08-06-2010, 06:42 PM	#6
Thunndar316 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,681	Yeah try fixing Perah Celsis __________________ Sleight of Hand is USELESS

08-06-2010, 11:56 PM	#8
ElnAckom Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 267	The Mark comment reminds me to reiterate something I'd hoped to see rolled back: Can we eliminate the "trivialized" mechanic for Void Shard instances? Especially now that there is superior armor through other means, those of us who love questing and really enjoyed guild groups using mentoring to do Void Shard instances in Befallen and such miss that a great deal. There's no incentive to take advantage of the content in those zones if they can only be accomplished at color-con. I understand the desire to hold a certain line on achieving things, but who on earth would invest the time necessary to get sufficient Void Shards for Shard Armor now? Don't shut people out of deprecated content. It might have made sense before SF, but doesn't really now. Just my take. __________________

08-06-2010, 03:53 PM	#1
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Other then pushing RMT into our faces where exactly is the content for this GU?

08-06-2010, 04:15 PM	#3
Titigabe Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 556	Yes, this is "an empty year" in terms of content ... S'F is really boring, too small dungeons, linear solo timelines, only two adventuring zones ... And a new farming system called Manaar. We were just out of Void Shards. The new X2 raid is way too hard for small Guilds and not in line with what we had with WoE wich is the best Guild experience I had. Beside a new dungeon wich should be revealed at Fan Fair, I wonder what we'll have to wait until next Feb. I saw many people in my Guild who stopped playing EQ2 because they felt really disappointed and started getting bored. The EQ2e annouce as well as the "revamp" (awful downgrade) of particule effects did not gave them the desire to come back at all ... Thank you for ruining our community with such stupid decision.

08-06-2010, 10:19 PM	#7
Guy De Alsace Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,902	New expac will be released on EQ2X only more than likely. To ensure live dies even quicker than they hoped.

08-07-2010, 03:07 AM	#9
Ofed Server: Befallen Guild: Sacrifice Rank: Raiding Pirate Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10	Guy De Alsace wrote: New expac will be released on EQ2X only more than likely. To ensure live dies even quicker than they hoped. no they will want to see how many people shell out the cash for the expac first.. but it will not matter this game will not make another 6 moths without anyrhing new in it...

08-07-2010, 06:45 AM	#10
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Am I wrong for feeling ripped off here? Less updates but more content was what was promised while it seems they have spent their extra time not on content but on garbage. I mean seriously am I not getting new zones to play in and new quests and new gear so that you guys can put a big SC on the UI?

08-07-2010, 07:05 AM	#11
ShinGoku Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 627	I don't really care about the station cash button, I really don't. What I DO care about is new content going into game to keep things interesting enough to carry on playing till the new expac. This GU is pathetic, just pathetic. There is simply nothing to this update and its taken 3 months of paid time to do?! Prove me wrong by all means and add some update notes to show more CONTENT being put in, in which case I will eat my humble pie and like it.

08-07-2010, 02:26 PM	#12
Myrien Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Alts Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 78	Sesketh@Everfrost wrote: The Mark comment reminds me to reiterate something I'd hoped to see rolled back: Can we eliminate the "trivialized" mechanic for Void Shard instances? Especially now that there is superior armor through other means, those of us who love questing and really enjoyed guild groups using mentoring to do Void Shard instances in Befallen and such miss that a great deal. There's no incentive to take advantage of the content in those zones if they can only be accomplished at color-con. I understand the desire to hold a certain line on achieving things, but who on earth would invest the time necessary to get sufficient Void Shards for Shard Armor now? Don't shut people out of deprecated content. It might have made sense before SF, but doesn't really now. Just my take. You can still mentor down to as low as level 50 and do the void shard zones. They do get easier when you mentor down. You also have the advantage of getting AA, possible loot, and possible coin.

08-07-2010, 07:45 PM	#13
Rick777 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 720	BChizzle wrote: Am I wrong for feeling ripped off here? Less updates but more content was what was promised while it seems they have spent their extra time not on content but on garbage. I mean seriously am I not getting new zones to play in and new quests and new gear so that you guys can put a big SC on the UI? Nope, you aren't wrong to feel that way. This whole time the only thing they have been working on is F2P and RMT. The whole sham of a "UI upgrade" is just to put that big SC button in our faces. I'm quite surprised that they actually thought we would buy that we were really getting an upgrade to the UI. I'm also curious as to what happened to less updates and more content.

08-08-2010, 12:52 AM	#14
Bilil Server: Antonia Bayle General Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	Yeah, kinda seems like they're just trying to force Extended down our throats, making graphics worse (SOGA and the particle effects) and just try to make us believe we should be happy. Lol.

08-08-2010, 06:09 PM	#15
ShinGoku Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 627	Like I said, perhaps there will be a surprise addition of stuff to do?

08-08-2010, 07:02 PM	#16
Shizune Server: Nektulos Guild: Has Gone Linkdead Rank: Namara's Nekkid Ninjas Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 83	I know being negative is frowned upon on these forums but looks like a pretty worthless GU to me. __________________

08-08-2010, 07:45 PM	#17
Whilhelmina Server: Storms Guild: Les Furies d Innoruuk Rank: Matriarches Tester Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: France (Storms) Posts: 3,161	Additions are : - 3 new questlines in newbie zones (all but TD): pretty linear still, but, well, what would one expect? ... - 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks. - New Halas writs in Moors So... 6 new questlines, 2 city tasks, a revamped Gorowyn (if it can be called an addition) and... er.. .well... ah, yes, there is an addition : SC button and SC items on regular merchants... Yeah, it's the RMT updtate... Give us all your $$$! This update will be a big failure and is a big downgrade. __________________ French Tradeskill Guide and my houses.

08-08-2010, 11:18 PM	#18
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	I honestly wonder if Michael Eisner isn't running SoE or something, because I feel more and more betrayed with each passing day with this update.

08-09-2010, 12:06 AM	#19
Enica Server: Everfrost Guild: Casual Alliance Rank: Distinguished Member Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 513	Whilhelmina@Storms wrote: Additions are : - 3 new questlines in newbie zones (all but TD): pretty linear still, but, well, what would one expect? ... - 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks. - New Halas writs in Moors So... 6 new questlines, 2 city tasks, a revamped Gorowyn (if it can be called an addition) and... er.. .well... ah, yes, there is an addition : SC button and SC items on regular merchants... Yeah, it's the RMT updtate... Give us all your $$$! This update will be a big failure and is a big downgrade. I've only run through the starting quests for New Halas since the update, but they added something new there - a 50% run speed horse. I've heard they did the same in Darklight. I keep meaning to run another character through there to see.

08-09-2010, 10:33 AM	#20
ccarro General Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 225	It honestly feels like this game has been sold out. Enough with the RMT stuff sony. It's a turn off to new players and the community. Yeah it might bring in some cash but it has long term effects which are gonna kill the game and keep people from buying future sony games. As for the game content...........where is it? Seriously. Quarterly updates were promised to bring bigger updates with more content. All the content that has been released since SF has been horrible. Icy Keep....really.....I mean, REALLY?!?! The Underfoot Depths is good for high end raiders but the majority of the player base wont venture far into it. Yes, Halas is a nice addition, but you can't give us one new starting area and take 2 away and try to claim you added content. Here is what I think the player base would like. Add in a few more instances and one more raid zone early from the velious expansion. Do it as a lead in to the expansion or whatever. If this expansion is as big as it is claimed to be (which I doubt), then you should have plenty of content to do this. __________________

08-09-2010, 11:59 AM	#21
Wolfsbaine Server: The Bazaar Guild: Wartorn Rank: Centurion Decurio Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 111	Well people forgot to mention the GU's before SF. The one where lucan was kidnapped. If I recall 2 updates before SF he was kidnapped and there was 3 quests evil side, and 2 quests good side that talked about that. There was some fun lore that came with those quests, but that was all. We did have 1 update that was only bug stomps which I do appreciate that. I am seeing us get less and less content. I didn't really care for SF. I did some of the Beta Testing and early into the Beta testing I lost interest in it. I didnt like the farming of shards during TSO, and I dont like the Marks, BG token, Seals, and Eci Token grinds of SF. I think it kinda sucks that you have to constantly farm zones to save up some type of token to get average, and even raid gear. Now we have this crap. I do love domino. She puts out great stuff. I just hate the TS grind from 1-90. I am seeing less of a reason to even bother with my sub. I would love to see things go back to the way they were when I fist started playing this game. You started out in the colonies, and then you would take the ships to your city and you would have to do a mini event. If you made a wiz in qeynos then you would start off as a mage at level one and then you would become a sorcerer, and if I am not mistaken you had to do a quest to become your subclass to be able to level up. Then at 19 had to do another quest to level to 20 and become your final class. Then we had our spirit shard runs when we died. It sucked when we died and had to go find our bodies, but we worked harder to keep from dying. I know I did. Some places I just tried to find the safest way to get my body back. EQ2 was alot harder back in those days, BUT I loved that. Now I can do the RAF thing with a friend and in 1d 6h of total gameplay I can PL a toon from 10 to 80. They wont have that much AA, but that is with 1 level 80+ toon mentoring. Plus the toon that is mentoring gets a couple levels out of the deal. EQ2 has been my first and only MMO out there, but I am starting to wonder about games like Star Trek Online. Dont get me wrong I have loved EQ2 since the first time I installed it and ran the game, just harder to keep an interest in it. I log on to chat in the channels more then anything. __________________

08-10-2010, 06:24 PM	#22
ShinGoku Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 627	I'm starting to feel the same way. Once you have gotten your toons leveled etc other than the finger nails on a blackboard style grinding of AA there isn't much to really do. Another shard run? /wrists

08-10-2010, 07:35 PM	#23
Laiina Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 622	Whilhelmina@Storms wrote: Additions are : - 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks.... Has anyone noticed the almost total lack of any new tradeskill quests for SF? __________________

08-10-2010, 08:03 PM	#24
Alenna Server: Guk Guild: Defenders of the Light Rank: Count Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,938	Cusashorn wrote: I honestly wonder if Michael Eisner isn't running SoE or something, because I feel more and more betrayed with each passing day with this update. LOL as a life long disney fan I've been beginning to wonder about that myself. __________________

08-10-2010, 09:25 PM	#25
Shiirr Server: Blackburrow Guild: Kindred Souls Rank: Member Lord Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 178	Shizune@Nektulos wrote: I know being negative is frowned upon on these forums but looks like a pretty worthless GU to me. Unfortunately, since SmokeJumper has taken the reins, all that's left is to feel negative. I generally am willing to let a few things slide (been playing since launch on a different account, so you know what I mean), but every time I log into the forums, I see another reason to quit playing. I talked friends & family into playing this game. Sorry, I mean I talked friends & family into playing EQ2; this really isn't EQ2 anymore. It's more like EQ2 at 95, senile, feeble, barely able to acknowledge someone entering the room, and awaiting the grim reaper. When they launch the F2P version, that'll be the reaper at the door. On the upside, Rift should be out next year.

08-10-2010, 09:37 PM	#26
Terrius Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada, We have Hockey and Beer, eh! Posts: 505	Shiirr@Blackburrow wrote: Unfortunately, since SmokeJumper has taken the reins, all that's left is to feel negative. QFTEven brenlo didnt make me hate him this much, this fast.

08-13-2010, 01:26 PM	#27
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	So, is that really it? I mean, UI changes, a few low level tradeskill quests, changes to low level abilities, unnecessary nerfs ... and no content? __________________

08-13-2010, 02:05 PM	#28
EndevorX Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 722	Well, I don't think we can expect much. The balance of power is not with EQ2's budget, atm. Like they said, they're trying to focus on expansion content, and given that TSO and SF are meager in comparison to RoK, I think we can't really argue that we should let them try to make DOV somehow one-up SF... __________________ \|-\| EverQuest Next Principles to Abide by (30) \|-\| True Ks: 40.2K Ds: 3.6K Ratio:11:1 \|-\| \|-\| PvP Briefing 101 (Outdated) \|-\| 45 Points of Awesome-o for PvP! \|-\|Â*

08-13-2010, 03:27 PM	#29
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Seliri@Nagafen wrote: The balance of power is not with EQ2's budget, atm. We are consistently, constantly and progressively told that EQ2's budget should be fine because of all the money SC brings in, right? So why the terribly small GUs, terribly small team and absolute lack of motivation by the team to do anything at all unless they can somehow charge more money for it. __________________

08-13-2010, 04:30 PM	#30
Lord Destyn Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 49	Laiina wrote: Whilhelmina@Storms wrote: Additions are : - 3 new tradeskill questlines in T2, T3 and T4: 27 very good quests with very good rewards, (well, 36 quests if you do both evil and good side on 2 different chars for the T2 questline). They're nice and fun and Domino rocks.... Has anyone noticed the almost total lack of any new tradeskill quests for SF? Really? Sentinels Fate has WAY MORE TS quests then ANY other xpac before it. You can literaly quest a crafter from 80-85 without ever crafting from a single recipe book, leaving 10 books of first combines for bonus xp to get 5 levels. Plus the TS signature quest for your crafting weapon. To be honest there has not been any crafting quests in updates since but w/ that much crafting content in the actual xpac, what did you really expect ?....cant have your cake AND eat it too.