What Race do You Want to See?

[Galithdor]

Reapicheap@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Super Saiyan 4 isn't Canon to the official DBZ series. SSJ3 is where it's at.

Nope, sorry, Therodge.  Someone just proved they have more of a geek life than you do.  Please go sleep soundly...

Theres someone who dosnt know how much of an anime fan Cusa is? Wow...i thought the whole forum knew

[Lethe5683]

Galithdor wrote:

Reapicheap@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Super Saiyan 4 isn't Canon to the official DBZ series. SSJ3 is where it's at.

Nope, sorry, Therodge.  Someone just proved they have more of a geek life than you do.  Please go sleep soundly...

Theres someone who dosnt know how much of an anime fan Cusa is? Wow...i thought the whole forum knew

It's pretty obvious.

[Cusashorn]

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

 Anime is evil.

OH NO YOU DID NOT just say that....

I did.  The "content" of anime is evil and disturbing although I rather like the art style.

Don't you dare just generalize all anime as one giant thing. It's not all about pornography of 14 year old girls getting *ehem* by tentacle monsters like I assume you think it is.

I challenge you to start throwing out as many random subjects that you can think of, and I will supply an anime or manga that focuses on that subject and doesn't involve pornography.

Sports, action, romance, comedy, children shows, detective stories, ghosts, robots, history, famous stories, modern culture, politics... Anything. Be specific. I will prove to you that it's not all the same stuff, and it's certainly not evil.

[Lethe5683]

Cusashorn wrote:

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

 Anime is evil.

OH NO YOU DID NOT just say that....

I did.  The "content" of anime is evil and disturbing although I rather like the art style.

Don't you dare just generalize all anime as one giant thing. It's not all about pornography of 14 year old girls getting *ehem* by tentacle monsters like I assume you think it is.

Actually I didn't even think of that...

I challenge you to start throwing out as many random subjects that you can think of, and I will supply an anime or manga that focuses on that subject and doesn't involve pornography.

Yet again, I was not talking about pornography.

Sports, action, romance, comedy, children shows, detective stories, ghosts, robots, history, famous stories, modern culture, politics... Anything. Be specific. I will prove to you that it's not all the same stuff, and it's certainly not evil.

Ok, how aobut you describe a few anime series that you think are decent.

[Nakaru-Nitepaw]

LOL @ dragging balls comment

My nickname for it was either "gruntfest GTXYZ" or "constipation central".

[Dreyco]

I remember when I was younger that I tried to like Dragonball Z because it was popular.

I turned it in, followed the series for a bit where a guy powered up for a week while everyone else distracted the baddie, then, when he finally had enough power...

.... he missed.

I stopped watching it there

Erm.. back on topic.  Yes.  Vulmane.  Please

[Zabjade]

DBZ is probably not the best Anime to represent the field. Ghost in a Shell, Ranma ½ (for comedy), Tenchi Muyo, El Hazard, Dual, and many others are a lot better.

Back on Topic, Icepaw Gnolls or Ferretonga! Maybe one of the alien races like Terrans. (Italisized are for fun)

[Enever]

Gnolls or Otthimir, My top two choices.

[Cusashorn]

Very well. I appologize to everyone in this thread for going off-topic like this.

Ghost in the Shell, an anime that takes place in the near future where mankind has integrated itself with technology. People are able to connect to the internet through thier own minds. Cyberterrorism reaches a new level as this integration with technology allows criminals to steal the very digitized souls and identities of other people.

IGPX, the Immortal Grand Prix. An anime created by and for the Toonami anime block on Cartoon Network. In the near future, the most popular sport in the world is the Immortal Grand Prix, where pilots race against each other in Mechs on tracks that extend over 6 miles and at speeds over 300. Team Satomi must find it within themselves to prove to the IGPX that they can become the champions. The series itself it aimed towards young adults, featuring a good balance of action and plot, with great character development and some light humor thrown in now and then.

One Piece is an adventure story about a kid named Monkey D. Luffy, who ate the cursed Gum-Gum fruit. He now has the ability to stretch his body like rubber. He seeks out to follow his one dream in life: To become the King of the Pirates. Along the way, he meets many friends and allies, and he proves that NOTHING can stand in his way if it means protecting his friends. He isn't a pirate because he wants to become rich and defy the governments. He does it for the thrill of the adventure. A very humorous series.

Slam Dunk is a sports manga and anime based around Basketball. I haven't started reading it yet, but it is the number 1 selling sports manga of all time. It's just about high school basketball and how the main character wants to put his skills to the test by playing Basketball instead of being a delinquent on the streets.

The above two examples are from the Shonen Jump manga magazine. They're stories aimed towards young males age 9-17. Shonen series in general involve a young man who has a gift or some sort of power, and as the story progresses, that power becomes utilized and more powerful, while at the same time the character usually always often learns how to rely on his friendship with others. That's a key element usually conveyed.

Cowboy Bebop is a true classic for all anime fans to watch. The adventures of Spike, Jet, Faye, Edward, and Ein the dog. Bounty Hunters who fly across the solar system making a living out of catching criminals, and the hardships they face when they run out of money more often than not. Behind these episodic adventures lays Spike's dark history, as he keeps finding himself getting involved in the affairs of the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate on Mars. One Woman in his past life just keeps coming back.

Ah! My Goddess is an anime and manga about a young man named Keiichi Morisato, a man who, as fate decrees, was born under an unlucky star. His whole life was full of bad luck until one day when he makes a phone call, he ended up dialing the Goddess Help Line, and a beautiful woman named Belldandy comes to grant his wish. Any wish he wanted, it had to be granted. Without even thinking about it, he wished he could stay with Belldandy forever. Now with Belldandy by his side, his life slowly starts to improve, though having Belldandy's sisters of Urd, Skuld, and Peorth dropping by to interfere with him doesn't always help. This is a kind-hearted romantic comedy that falls under the Harem catagory. Many romantic comedies usually involve the life of one pathetic loser who ends up becomming a main influence in the lives of many different girls. In AMG's place, Belldandy cares deeply for Keiichi, and vice versa, but the scientific genius Skuld always insists on keeping Keiichi apart because he doesn't want him to do anything funny to her... And then there's Urd, who for the most part, just likes to get in the way because it amuses her.

Chibi Vampire, also known as Karin is among my personal favorites for manga series. It's about a vampire named Karin who, unlike ordinary blood-sucking dwellers of the night, actually lives a normal life.. or as normal as she can make it anyway. She can go outside during the day and go to school and all that, but once a month something special happens to her.. Something that most normal girls don't experience. Instead of sucking blood, she ends up making it and usually spurts blood from her nose. She's not a blood taker, but rather a blood giver. When a new boy named Kenta Usui joins her school, it's practically love at first sight.. Now she has to cope with Kenta while trying to keep her secret from getting out. This is an example of Shoujo, which are series aimed at a young female audience. Most Shoujo manga usually involve romance and similar themes. It's still a romantic comedy, and is one of my favorites because of it. A little fanservice now and then never hurt anyone, even though no actual nudity is shown.

Those are just some examples. Truth is there are numerous series that cover a wide range of topics and subjects. The Manga industry makes up for more than 30% of all printed media produced in Japan, and Anime itself isn't always immoral and evil. It is to some high-strung religions, but I'm not gonna get into that debate.

[Dreyco]

Honestly, I liked the classics far more than some of the "TV Show" stuff.  The deeper stories were what hooked me, until I lost interest with age.  NGE, Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist. . . those were the days.

[therodge]

Dreyco wrote:

Honestly, I liked the classics far more than some of the "TV Show" stuff.  The deeper stories were what hooked me, until I lost interest with age.  NGE, Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist. . . those were the days.

for the record SS4 isnt cannon to dbz as its not a dbz episode but to be fair as the last episodes of the final arc arnt based off the now imfamous manga they arnt concidered cannon the same way stark trek 9th whatsoever it was called isnt. regardless my personal faverate animes by far is a toss up between hellsing (and the manga is still better which says loads about the manga) and bleach (although tite kubo has annoyed me with the last 30 chapters of the manga the anime is great when they dont put in a filler arc) and tenchi muyo will always have a special place in my heart.

Edit: and to be completely fair cusa Anime and Manga are genrally cut before being shown to american audiences but that has to do more on how our culture veiws sexual content, which is really a culture issue

Edit 2: to be fair again any anime hater will be instantly tolerant after seeing the movie princess monanoske (sp) which is probobly the greatest animated movie of all time, it is acually my familys faverorite movie which says something as its the only animated movie in our collection

Edit three: on topic WEREWOLVES period end of story thank you.

Edit 4 and if you know any werewolf animes/mangas let me know cusa preferably vosta's and my japanease sucks

[Aaramis]

Good race - Arctic Dwarf (Coldain from EQ1).  They would also fit with future expansions, as I'm sure we'll rediscover Velious some time soon.

?? (good? evil?) - Combine / Seru race.  Depending on how to spin it, could be either good or evil.

Neutral race - Drakkin (late addition to EQ1).

[Cusashorn]

Aaramis wrote:

Good race - Arctic Dwarf (Coldain from EQ1).  They would also fit with future expansions, as I'm sure we'll rediscover Velious some time soon.

?? (good? evil?) - Combine / Seru race.  Depending on how to spin it, could be either good or evil.

Neutral race - Drakkin (late addition to EQ1).

Seru? You mean the Human race from Sanctus Seru on Luclin? They're human, so they arn't a new race.

And the Devs have stated the Drakkin don't and won't exist in EQ2 because they were created as a result of events that started in EQlive after the time split.

[Hirofortis]

Unless the yare going to give us another character slot I don't think it will matter.  7 slots are so easy to fill, a new race would not make a change at all.  I would rather see them fix some things with the old races, like give them new dance moves. LOL. 

[BleemTeam]

I always keep my eyes on LoN and other illusions that pop up. That to me, is an indicator of what they are messing around with as far as character models.

One that keeps me interested as an actual new race is the Spiroc, or Aviak if you prefer.

[Cusashorn]

therodge wrote:

Edit: and to be completely fair cusa Anime and Manga are genrally cut before being shown to american audiences but that has to do more on how our culture veiws sexual content, which is really a culture issue

Yeah. Standards and Practices can be a ***** sometimes. I remember how They always muted Professor Farnsworth from saying "Sweet Zombie Jesus" on Futurama on Adult Swim. I think it was mainly because they are located in Atlanta of all places. Anime doesn't get heavily edited as much anymore. Adult Swim still has to blur bare breasts now and then, but it's very minor.

Edit 2: to be fair again any anime hater will be instantly tolerant after seeing the movie princess monanoske (sp) which is probobly the greatest animated movie of all time, it is acually my familys faverorite movie which says something as its the only animated movie in our collection

 Any Miyazaki film would.

Edit three: on topic WEREWOLVES period end of story thank you.

Edit 4 and if you know any werewolf animes/mangas let me know cusa preferably vosta's and my japanease sucks

Unfortunately, I don't think there are any series that deal with werewolves in the traditional sense of western folklore. You know, where they transform into beasts at the sight of the Full Moon. However, there are animes that have werewolf characters in them. Most of them are comedy series.

Liru the Werewolf from Magical Pokaan is the most known by modern anime.

Wolf's Rain isn't so much about werewolves, but it does feature wolves who can disguise themselves under human illusions. It's one of my favorite drama series, though it gets really sad at the end.

There are also werewolf characters in Monster Princess, Wolf and Spice, and Shining Tears X Wind, though none of these anime except Wolf's Rain have been dubbed in English yet.

[betatester7]

Cusashorn wrote:

therodge wrote:

Edit: and to be completely fair cusa Anime and Manga are genrally cut before being shown to american audiences but that has to do more on how our culture veiws sexual content, which is really a culture issue

Yeah. Standards and Practices can be a ***** sometimes. I remember how They always muted Professor Farnsworth from saying "Sweet Zombie Jesus" on Futurama on Adult Swim. I think it was mainly because they are located in Atlanta of all places. Anime doesn't get heavily edited as much anymore. Adult Swim still has to blur bare breasts now and then, but it's very minor.

Edit 2: to be fair again any anime hater will be instantly tolerant after seeing the movie princess monanoske (sp) which is probobly the greatest animated movie of all time, it is acually my familys faverorite movie which says something as its the only animated movie in our collection

Princess Monoke, the soundtrack is very nice too and history, etc.

 Any Miyazaki film would.

Edit three: on topic WEREWOLVES period end of story thank you.

Edit 4 and if you know any werewolf animes/mangas let me know cusa preferably vosta's and my japanease sucks

Unfortunately, I don't think there are any series that deal with werewolves in the traditional sense of western folklore. You know, where they transform into beasts at the sight of the Full Moon. However, there are animes that have werewolf characters in them. Most of them are comedy series.

Liru the Werewolf from Magical Pokaan is the most known by modern anime.

Wolf's Rain isn't so much about werewolves, but it does feature wolves who can disguise themselves under human illusions. It's one of my favorite drama series, though it gets really sad at the end.

yeah, its nice drama series, and sad ending i love the gravity ending theme.

There are also werewolf characters in Monster Princess, Wolf and Spice, and Shining Tears X Wind, though none of these anime except Wolf's Rain have been dubbed in English yet.

[Mirander_1]

Aaannnyyyyways, to get back on to races, and off of anime:

Something to consider for new races would be to try focusing on more traditional fantasy races, rather than doing another beast-man race, as I know some people are a little tired of them (and I definitely don't want them just doing humans with weird tattoos, and calling it a new race, as with the Drakkin).  Granted, most traditional fantasy races are some fusion of animal and human, but at least the gut reaction on seeing them is 'oh, it's a mythological creature', not 'oh, it's another talking animal'.  So, I submit this list:

Minotaurs, Goblins, Orcs, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Angels, Demons, Djinn, Sirens/Merpeople, Undead, Satyrs, and probably some other stuff that'll pop into my head later.  

[Godz1lla]

I'd agree with the thought that current character models added to the game are in indication of what can be added easily.  Take this as an idea:

The gods are returning, Najena has become a prominent figure through the shard dungeons and the LS revamp, and there are models of elementals on the docks and in the dungeons.

I wouldn' be against the new race, if there is one, being elemental people.  It's possible that the elemental gods could begin to influence the Prime plane again, and the elemental people could be their envoys.

The only negative I could see in this, storywise, is that the elemental planes and gods should be neutral, not good per se.  That could conflict with what the Devs have in mind.

It wouldn't take a lot for armor models, or new coding.  And it would provide diversity for looks: IE Fire, Water, Earth, Air.  Maybe Poison if Bertox gets a say in things.

And elemental people would fit just about any expansion they want to do, Velious even.

Just a thought.

[Liviea]

As much as I love being able to play a new race every couple of expansions, Id like to see some updates to the current races instead.

I think instead of adding all new graphics for a new race, they should add more hair styles and tattoos, earrings, glasses, etc to the ones we already have. And not just to some, but to all. I remember the first time I made a character it was my human Guardian and I was sitting there going "ew whats up with all these ugly hair styles? and why cant I have earrings!" There wasnt even an option to just have my hair down.

Sure they made it so human males could use the hair styles from the SOGA models, but what about the rest of the races? And honestly id like to see all new hair styles (maybe more realistic or trendy than current ones, once again ew) and more options to customize.

[Lethe5683]

Zabjade wrote:

Back on Topic, Icepaw Gnolls or Ferretonga! Maybe one of the alien races like Terrans. (Italisized are for fun)

What is a Ferretonga?

Mirander@Unrest wrote:

Aaannnyyyyways, to get back on to races, and off of anime:

Something to consider for new races would be to try focusing on more traditional fantasy races, rather than doing another beast-man race, as I know some people are a little tired of them (and I definitely don't want them just doing humans with weird tattoos, and calling it a new race, as with the Drakkin).  Granted, most traditional fantasy races are some fusion of animal and human, but at least the gut reaction on seeing them is 'oh, it's a mythological creature', not 'oh, it's another talking animal'.  So, I submit this list:

Minotaurs, Goblins, Orcs, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Angels, Demons, Djinn, Sirens/Merpeople, Undead, Satyrs, and probably some other stuff that'll pop into my head later.  

Traditional fantasy races are the most cliche of anything.  I'm very tired of the same old traditional fantasy races because A. They are in everything, B. I don't like any of them.  Animal-like races > traditonal fantasy races.

[Illine]

why not a satyr?

or a humanoid cow :p

we already have lezard (iskar), cat(kerran), rat(ratonga), frog(froglok), dragon/lezard(sarnak) humanoid races.

I can fin other npc races like kobold, gnoll,(dog-like) aviak(bird), burynai, yha lei (fish) and drolvargs (dog like too). Shissar (snake) too existed once.

so whether it's an existant npc changed into a pc or a new humanoid animal race . already too much elves and humans. Maybe they could add grey dwarfs .

we need a monkey humanoid race

[Cusashorn]

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

Zabjade wrote:

Back on Topic, Icepaw Gnolls or Ferretonga! Maybe one of the alien races like Terrans. (Italisized are for fun)

What is a Ferretonga?

 You should be able to figure it out if you remove the -onga.

Mirander@Unrest wrote:

Aaannnyyyyways, to get back on to races, and off of anime:

Something to consider for new races would be to try focusing on more traditional fantasy races, rather than doing another beast-man race, as I know some people are a little tired of them (and I definitely don't want them just doing humans with weird tattoos, and calling it a new race, as with the Drakkin).  Granted, most traditional fantasy races are some fusion of animal and human, but at least the gut reaction on seeing them is 'oh, it's a mythological creature', not 'oh, it's another talking animal'.  So, I submit this list:

Minotaurs, Goblins, Orcs, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Angels, Demons, Djinn, Sirens/Merpeople, Undead, Satyrs, and probably some other stuff that'll pop into my head later.  

Traditional fantasy races are the most cliche of anything.  I'm very tired of the same old traditional fantasy races because A. They are in everything, B. I don't like any of them.  Animal-like races > traditonal fantasy races.

You should be able to figure it out if you remove the -onga from the name.

As for animal races... unless it's an insect race, I welcome the sight of another tan-skinned creature who isn't based off an animal design.

[Illine]

Cusashorn wrote:

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

Zabjade wrote:

Back on Topic, Icepaw Gnolls or Ferretonga! Maybe one of the alien races like Terrans. (Italisized are for fun)

What is a Ferretonga?

 You should be able to figure it out if you remove the -onga.

Mirander@Unrest wrote:

Aaannnyyyyways, to get back on to races, and off of anime:

Something to consider for new races would be to try focusing on more traditional fantasy races, rather than doing another beast-man race, as I know some people are a little tired of them (and I definitely don't want them just doing humans with weird tattoos, and calling it a new race, as with the Drakkin).  Granted, most traditional fantasy races are some fusion of animal and human, but at least the gut reaction on seeing them is 'oh, it's a mythological creature', not 'oh, it's another talking animal'.  So, I submit this list:

Minotaurs, Goblins, Orcs, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Angels, Demons, Djinn, Sirens/Merpeople, Undead, Satyrs, and probably some other stuff that'll pop into my head later.  

Traditional fantasy races are the most cliche of anything.  I'm very tired of the same old traditional fantasy races because A. They are in everything, B. I don't like any of them.  Animal-like races > traditonal fantasy races.

You should be able to figure it out if you remove the -onga from the name.

As for animal races... unless it's an insect race, I welcome the sight of another tan-skinned creature who isn't based off an animal design.

turkey, bear, boar (no exists in tso actually), marmot, ...

[Jaffa Tamarin]

I'd love to see the raki from Vanguard done in EQ2 character style (and with tails!).  Fox-people are awesome, but the Vanguard character models are horrible.

[Jaale]

Turtle men! Maybe teenage... They could be mutants. And Ninjas. I would like to see a really top heavy race (not that way... Perverts ) I mean a race that has huge arms shoulders and a slim small wast and legs that moves like a gorilla switching between two and four legs to move and fight. Make it a good race and have it as an opposite to Ogres in hight and strength, give us good guys a heroic, strong and powerful figure instead of all the fluffy delicate little people (lovely as they are).

[Zabjade]

Although there is one issue with the Ferretonga, They can not resists Shinys. they would be running past one and you suddently loose control to harvest no matter if it's a trap, especially if it's a trap!.

Isepaw Gnolls would look neat as they would probably resemble wolves or malmutes rather then dobermans,  german shepards, or jackles(?) (The ones in SS)

[Lethe5683]

Cusashorn wrote:

You should be able to figure it out if you remove the -onga from the name.

As for animal races... unless it's an insect race, I welcome the sight of another tan-skinned creature who isn't based off an animal design.

Insects are bad so are humans we don't need any more basically human races.  We already have: humans, half-elfs, all the other elfs, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, etc.

[Cusashorn]

Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

You should be able to figure it out if you remove the -onga from the name.

As for animal races... unless it's an insect race, I welcome the sight of another tan-skinned creature who isn't based off an animal design.

Insects are bad so are humans we don't need any more basically human races.  We already have: humans, half-elfs, all the other elfs, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, etc.

I want to see another aethetically pleasing race. Something I would want to play as. Something that has tan skin and mammalian features. There's nothing wrong with that.

And that's your opinion that you don't like insects, but I haven't seen any other MMO's use an insectoid race as a player race before.

[Rainmare]

So like take the Ravasect, and make a version that has broken free/loose of the hive mind type mentality they seem to have developed?