TSO Solo Content? - Page 2

Rahatmattata · 11-19-2008, 01:45 PM

Just because you refuse to join a group doesn't mean there's OMG no content!

Yella · 11-19-2008, 07:14 PM

Lethe5683 wrote:

Kizee wrote:
Geothe wrote:
There is no need to add yet more solo content, especially lower tier, into the game.
As is you can already solo all the way to lvl 80, just doing solid quests.And those levels fly by so quickly as is, introducing brand new content in the lower levels would be a big waste of resorces compared to how much they would actually be used.TSO is more like RoK, part 2.ROK was hugely solo centric, with a little bit of group content, and some raid content.TSO is more group centric, with some solo content (a whole new massive zone) and some raid content.
So following that progression the next expansion should be......no solo content, alittle group content and mostly raid content?
Yeah right, having mostly groups at least makes sense since most people primarly play the game to do group instances. Few people are hardcore raiders and even fewer are solo-only.

That is because since RoK, the only post 80 content has been group instances. It doesnt mean that everyone wants to do that, they have to do that because there was nothing else.

It's kind of like saying that people from the Titanic love being on lifeboats because they were all (or as many as could fit) on lifeboats when the Titanic sank.

Noaani · 11-20-2008, 12:12 PM

steelblueangel wrote:

I agree Lemonella both my husband and I spent weeks to get some of our alts up to lev 50 for the new solo content only to discover after hours of searching the zone with our higher lev toons to find that no content existed at all. We were very disappointed to say the least that there was no lev 50 new solo or duo content, since we also read and understood SOE advertisments that this zone would provide solo, group, and raid content for levels 50-80 players in TSO. SOE had the opportunity to provide content that would have pleased all playstyles, including a broader range of levels instead of just level 70 to 80 new content like in all the past expansions, but they not only dropped the ball. It gets really boring doing the same zones and quest over and over with alts.
Some of the over land areas are filled with heroics which will be utilized only by very few groups, since most will be doing the instance zones for the shards to purchase items and mounts, as a result, those over land heroics are nothing more than mobs that ppl will have to avoid, which is a waste of content in my opinion. Most or many of the named boss npc's on the over land are heroic and I ran into a few of those on my lev 80 and with only one shot I was D E A D before I even saw it. The overland should not have heroic mobs in it in mho because it becomes wasted content that gives little to no reward to groups in comparrison to the instance zones where most groups seek to hunt for treasure and or exp. Heroic overland encounters simply limit the solo or duo playstyle from exploring a new area and or experience encounters. I for one will not group to kill heroics overland; instead, I group for loot and exp. in instance zones only. The only time I will kill heroics overland in a group is when they are required to complete a heritage quest, other than that they are a waste of my time that could be spent in an instance zone.
The population on my server is very low, hopefully soon I will be able to either form or join a group to do a few of the instances. Once most ppl get enough shards to buy what they desire I hope the interest will still be there to group in these instance heroic zones, however, I fear most will move onto the raiding zones leaving the instance zones as empty and forsaken as the older instance zones. The new zones were so huge SOE could have easily placed content for lev 50 solo and or duo players to do quest or adventure overland and still had enough room to include overland quest and adventure for lev 70-80 players.
I am very disappointed by the intentional misleading of the level of content within TSO. I really do like my bear mounts, one for each character was pretty cool. I probably would have purchased the expansion anyway for my lev 80 toons; however, I do not like nor respect a company that will lie to me through false or intentional misleading advertisement in order to get my $$$'s and this is NOT the path SOE should have ever taken or took if they intended or intend to bring new accounts to eq2 or to maintain the current subscribers that are within the game at present.
Tisk, Tisk, SOE shame on you!!! lol

Link me a single press release or developer statment saying that TSO will have solo content for level 50 characters.

You will not be able to do that, because it does not exist. If it does not exist, that means they did not try and missinform you at all.

There were posts for about 3 months prior to release saying what content they have (zones that scale etc), and they have always aimed for 75+ with the outdoor zone. None of that has changed since SoE first mentinoed TSO. I am going to assume you read what they had published wrong, as that is the only explination for it. If this does turn out to be the case, it is your fault, and your fault alone.

SoE make enough mistakes as it is, there is no need to go blaming things they did not do on them as well.

Jovie · 11-20-2008, 01:38 PM

Flaye please correct me if i am wrong, but I thought you dont even own tos yet? Thought you were getting it in december? If that is the case then you really have no business reacting to any post in regards to tos positives and negatives, as you have to frame of reference.

It's like the owner of a pinto doing a write up on the new corvette, just doesn't make sense.

liveja · 11-20-2008, 01:44 PM

Jovie@Guk wrote:

Flaye please correct me if i am wrong, but I thought you dont even own tos yet?

I wasn't going to get it until December, but things changed. I now have TSO, & spent most of yesterday afternoon running around MOY.

Edit: In any event, one doesn't need to own TSO to know that the complaints about SOE "lying" & "intentionally misleading" people are flat-out nonsense. The simple fact is that both YOU & I knew this stuff long, long ago: obviously, then, SOE didn't lie to anyone.

Those three didn't know, because they never bothed to look into the product or come to the forums or do anything to find out what it was going to be about. That's bad enough, but for them to then come to the forums & pop off wild-eyed accusations is, IMO, offensive.

Nakaru-Nitepaw · 11-20-2008, 03:14 PM

From what i gather, the level range of the instance is similar to how Splitpaw works. I could be wrong though. Just last night my guild did the somborn cemetary stuff. We had a 76 in the group. The rest were 80s. Most of the mobs were blue to the 80s. However i went into befallen alone yesterday alone and noticed everything was 82 so i made a run for the door.

ke'la · 11-21-2008, 09:40 AM

Eschia@Antonia Bayle wrote:

From what i gather, the level range of the instance is similar to how Splitpaw works. I could be wrong though. Just last night my guild did the somborn cemetary stuff. We had a 76 in the group. The rest were 80s. Most of the mobs were blue to the 80s. However i went into befallen alone yesterday alone and noticed everything was 82 so i made a run for the door.

That is more or less how it works, just remember for the "Harder" zones that means fighting things upto 4 or even 5 levels over the average group level... like Unrest was back when it was under the cap.

Wundera · 11-21-2008, 11:37 AM

Not enough solo content to get above 150 AA any time fast. So are they saying I have to go back and do old content in order to reach at least 170 AA? Now I have to spend time doing grey quests and looking for pick up groups when my guild aren't on ...awesome fun.

Absolute joke - yes the main complaint about RoK was a lack of group content but serisouly - has anyone heard of balance?

Obadiah · 11-21-2008, 12:01 PM

Wunderace wrote:

Not enough solo content to get above 150 AA any time fast.

Who said that? I have barely touched the solo content and I'm at 148. I did run 3 heroic instances, but by far most of the AA has come from MoY quests.

You can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone with a feather above their head.

Ciara52 · 11-21-2008, 12:16 PM

Well I see that I did misunderstand, but this is where I got the idea:

The latest expansion provides content for players level 50-80, including more than 20 new zones and an achievement point increase to 200.

I really did think it meant overland would be 50's so I guess for me I need to read more carefully in the future SMILEY

11-19-2008, 01:45 PM	#31
Rahatmattata Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,232	Just because you refuse to join a group doesn't mean there's OMG no content! __________________ A Cure For Cancer

11-19-2008, 07:14 PM	#32
Yella Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 134	Lethe5683 wrote: Kizee wrote: Geothe wrote: There is no need to add yet more solo content, especially lower tier, into the game. As is you can already solo all the way to lvl 80, just doing solid quests.And those levels fly by so quickly as is, introducing brand new content in the lower levels would be a big waste of resorces compared to how much they would actually be used.TSO is more like RoK, part 2.ROK was hugely solo centric, with a little bit of group content, and some raid content.TSO is more group centric, with some solo content (a whole new massive zone) and some raid content. So following that progression the next expansion should be......no solo content, alittle group content and mostly raid content? Yeah right, having mostly groups at least makes sense since most people primarly play the game to do group instances. Few people are hardcore raiders and even fewer are solo-only. That is because since RoK, the only post 80 content has been group instances. It doesnt mean that everyone wants to do that, they have to do that because there was nothing else. It's kind of like saying that people from the Titanic love being on lifeboats because they were all (or as many as could fit) on lifeboats when the Titanic sank.

11-20-2008, 12:12 PM	#33
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	steelblueangel wrote: I agree Lemonella both my husband and I spent weeks to get some of our alts up to lev 50 for the new solo content only to discover after hours of searching the zone with our higher lev toons to find that no content existed at all. We were very disappointed to say the least that there was no lev 50 new solo or duo content, since we also read and understood SOE advertisments that this zone would provide solo, group, and raid content for levels 50-80 players in TSO. SOE had the opportunity to provide content that would have pleased all playstyles, including a broader range of levels instead of just level 70 to 80 new content like in all the past expansions, but they not only dropped the ball. It gets really boring doing the same zones and quest over and over with alts. Some of the over land areas are filled with heroics which will be utilized only by very few groups, since most will be doing the instance zones for the shards to purchase items and mounts, as a result, those over land heroics are nothing more than mobs that ppl will have to avoid, which is a waste of content in my opinion. Most or many of the named boss npc's on the over land are heroic and I ran into a few of those on my lev 80 and with only one shot I was D E A D before I even saw it. The overland should not have heroic mobs in it in mho because it becomes wasted content that gives little to no reward to groups in comparrison to the instance zones where most groups seek to hunt for treasure and or exp. Heroic overland encounters simply limit the solo or duo playstyle from exploring a new area and or experience encounters. I for one will not group to kill heroics overland; instead, I group for loot and exp. in instance zones only. The only time I will kill heroics overland in a group is when they are required to complete a heritage quest, other than that they are a waste of my time that could be spent in an instance zone. The population on my server is very low, hopefully soon I will be able to either form or join a group to do a few of the instances. Once most ppl get enough shards to buy what they desire I hope the interest will still be there to group in these instance heroic zones, however, I fear most will move onto the raiding zones leaving the instance zones as empty and forsaken as the older instance zones. The new zones were so huge SOE could have easily placed content for lev 50 solo and or duo players to do quest or adventure overland and still had enough room to include overland quest and adventure for lev 70-80 players. I am very disappointed by the intentional misleading of the level of content within TSO. I really do like my bear mounts, one for each character was pretty cool. I probably would have purchased the expansion anyway for my lev 80 toons; however, I do not like nor respect a company that will lie to me through false or intentional misleading advertisement in order to get my $$$'s and this is NOT the path SOE should have ever taken or took if they intended or intend to bring new accounts to eq2 or to maintain the current subscribers that are within the game at present. Tisk, Tisk, SOE shame on you!!! lol Link me a single press release or developer statment saying that TSO will have solo content for level 50 characters. You will not be able to do that, because it does not exist. If it does not exist, that means they did not try and missinform you at all. There were posts for about 3 months prior to release saying what content they have (zones that scale etc), and they have always aimed for 75+ with the outdoor zone. None of that has changed since SoE first mentinoed TSO. I am going to assume you read what they had published wrong, as that is the only explination for it. If this does turn out to be the case, it is your fault, and your fault alone. SoE make enough mistakes as it is, there is no need to go blaming things they did not do on them as well. __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius

11-20-2008, 01:44 PM	#35
liveja General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 4,793	Jovie@Guk wrote: Flaye please correct me if i am wrong, but I thought you dont even own tos yet? I wasn't going to get it until December, but things changed. I now have TSO, & spent most of yesterday afternoon running around MOY. Edit: In any event, one doesn't need to own TSO to know that the complaints about SOE "lying" & "intentionally misleading" people are flat-out nonsense. The simple fact is that both YOU & I knew this stuff long, long ago: obviously, then, SOE didn't lie to anyone. Those three didn't know, because they never bothed to look into the product or come to the forums or do anything to find out what it was going to be about. That's bad enough, but for them to then come to the forums & pop off wild-eyed accusations is, IMO, offensive. __________________

11-20-2008, 03:14 PM	#36
Nakaru-Nitepaw Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 596	From what i gather, the level range of the instance is similar to how Splitpaw works. I could be wrong though. Just last night my guild did the somborn cemetary stuff. We had a 76 in the group. The rest were 80s. Most of the mobs were blue to the 80s. However i went into befallen alone yesterday alone and noticed everything was 82 so i made a run for the door. __________________

11-20-2008, 01:38 PM	#34
Jovie Server: Guk Can't decide... Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 880	Flaye please correct me if i am wrong, but I thought you dont even own tos yet? Thought you were getting it in december? If that is the case then you really have no business reacting to any post in regards to tos positives and negatives, as you have to frame of reference. It's like the owner of a pinto doing a write up on the new corvette, just doesn't make sense.

11-21-2008, 09:40 AM	#37
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Eschia@Antonia Bayle wrote: From what i gather, the level range of the instance is similar to how Splitpaw works. I could be wrong though. Just last night my guild did the somborn cemetary stuff. We had a 76 in the group. The rest were 80s. Most of the mobs were blue to the 80s. However i went into befallen alone yesterday alone and noticed everything was 82 so i made a run for the door. That is more or less how it works, just remember for the "Harder" zones that means fighting things upto 4 or even 5 levels over the average group level... like Unrest was back when it was under the cap. __________________

11-21-2008, 11:37 AM	#38
Wundera General Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15	Not enough solo content to get above 150 AA any time fast. So are they saying I have to go back and do old content in order to reach at least 170 AA? Now I have to spend time doing grey quests and looking for pick up groups when my guild aren't on ...awesome fun. Absolute joke - yes the main complaint about RoK was a lack of group content but serisouly - has anyone heard of balance?

11-21-2008, 12:01 PM	#39
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	Wunderace wrote: Not enough solo content to get above 150 AA any time fast. Who said that? I have barely touched the solo content and I'm at 148. I did run 3 heroic instances, but by far most of the AA has come from MoY quests. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone with a feather above their head. __________________

11-21-2008, 12:16 PM	#40
Ciara52 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 504	Well I see that I did misunderstand, but this is where I got the idea: The latest expansion provides content for players level 50-80, including more than 20 new zones and an achievement point increase to 200. I really did think it meant overland would be 50's so I guess for me I need to read more carefully in the future