Armor at LVL 20 and up, Choice between Vanguard or AQ armor.

Lav · 01-19-2005, 01:19 AM

Hey guys,I'm about to ding 20 at become a Pally. I noticed that there is some player made Vanguard armor I can outfit myself in and there is also the Armor quest armor I could wear. My question is, is the player made pristine vanguard armor better than the AQ armor? Is it the same level armor? Should I get the player made and then do the AQ? Any help would be appreciated. I tried doing a search on this but it kept failing.Cheers,

RSZ · 01-19-2005, 01:33 AM

It is really not better, keep most of your AQ armor till late 20's. Spend money on jewelry instead.

cult · 01-19-2005, 02:44 PM

RSZ wrote:
It is really not better, keep most of your AQ armor till late 20's. Spend money on jewelry instead.

As he said, If your a tad low on cash, do the AQ's. I personally enjoyed them quite a lot. Gives nice XP, is fun, and the reward is good. I must also admit I prefer the "look" of the platemail over the vanguard. But that again, is of course just my personal opinion. Jewelrywise, buy yourself some pristine Gold or Agate, not to expensive, and decent protection. Should do you fine until the late 20's.

Flet · 01-19-2005, 10:37 PM

Yeah - do the AQs...

The AQs are also a great way to meet other players at the same level who are working on the same things. You get XP, good loot, and make friends. The only problem with the AQ stuff is you can't sell it afterwards, but heck, it didn't cost you anything but time in the first place to get it.

The total of AC and stats really is very comparable to the the Prisitne Carb stuff.

As mentioned, the look of the AQ stuff isn't very good, but who cares, you'll be lvl 30 in no time and dumping the AQ stuff before you know it.

GilfalasElaandrin · 01-22-2005, 12:46 AM

AQ's yield nice equipment and take you to some nice spots. But the basic peices like gloves bracer an arms grey out soon in your high 20's. Pristien carbonite, should you be able to afford it, you can get immediately at 20 and is at most 5-8% less in total stats than the quested stuff. And if you have the cash you can get the whole set at 20 and be able to do OTHER things beside armor quests for the rest of your next 10 levels.

Most player crafted gear is really great quality and it is nice because 1) You don't have to hope it drops, 2) It ALL lasts 10 levels (nearly universally quest or drop gear has a 5 levle lifespan to mastery), 3) It has cash value when your done by reselling, selling to an NPC merchant or passing down to an alt. You cannot do that with quest gear.

But then if you look at my sig you can probably tell why I am biased to PC made goods.

JarredDarque · 01-23-2005, 01:38 AM

Do the AQs and the spindlecog quest out of the baubleshire for a better helmut. For gloves locate the Gauntlets of Storms...dont know wehre form, odnt remember. At lvl 28, ypristine forged bracers and gloves are better, and also do that serious PITA quest for the Dwarven work boots from Hwal Rucksif in Antonica, those will last you to just past lvl 30.. At lvl 27, I am not wearing any armor I have bought, and almost all pristine forged gold/agate or better jewelry, better is pristine shard braclets and a few other rare things like that. For shields, suggest Ancient Kite shield, it drops somewhat regularly from Guard Capatian Hess is SH, at lvl 27, it gives me 254 AC I believe. It goes well with Berik, Sword of Thunder, from SH as well. Best two hander is the steel maul form SH, up to lvl 25, when the pristine forged greatsword out does it.

p.s. If you can afford it, buy a full set of vanguard or plate to start off with when doing AQs and just replace the pieces as you get them and sell off what you had. with this, your AC at lvl 25 will be a but over 1500, which I have yet to see better on Unrest server. At lvl 27, I am just under 1700 AC, but my AC is gonna start hurting in the next few lvls, as I dont have pristine forged pieces, tehy are normal forged. oh well...

Durlinn · 01-23-2005, 02:02 AM

The AQ armor is only better until it peaks. Which I believe is 26 or 27. Then the pristine will do until 30. Jarred has the right idea. Go pristine and swap pieces as you go thru the quests. If you can afford it, that is. :smileywink:

hieronym · 01-23-2005, 05:25 AM

you also got these boots were made for walking quest. Its a long one but worth it. Talk to hwal at Ardent keep for it

Skill Required 110-150
Agility +7, Strength +5, Disease + 8, Health +25, Poison +9, Power +15

frawdd · 01-24-2005, 03:07 PM

Something to note about the armour quest items, is that not all parts can be equiped at lvl20. Its mid 20's before you can equip the beastplate and greeves. So if you have the money, full Vanguard would be the way to go.

Another option would be to purchase vanguard greeves and breastplate then completed the early AQ parts at lvl20-21. As mentioned, the gloves, boots and helm can be quested (though don't expect to get the boots at lvl20 unless you group with those at higher levels, Bloodtalon is lvl27^^ and does lots of damage.)

By mid to late 20's you will be questing in RoV and CoB which have nice armour for lvl30. The non-pristine feyiron armour can be worn before lvl30 and though it might have slightly less AC, there is a considerable jump in resistance and other stats, which comes in handy against non-melee mob.

01-19-2005, 02:44 PM	#3
cult General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 36	RSZ wrote: It is really not better, keep most of your AQ armor till late 20's. Spend money on jewelry instead. As he said, If your a tad low on cash, do the AQ's. I personally enjoyed them quite a lot. Gives nice XP, is fun, and the reward is good. I must also admit I prefer the "look" of the platemail over the vanguard. But that again, is of course just my personal opinion. Jewelrywise, buy yourself some pristine Gold or Agate, not to expensive, and decent protection. Should do you fine until the late 20's. __________________

01-22-2005, 12:46 AM	#5
GilfalasElaandrin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 318	AQ's yield nice equipment and take you to some nice spots. But the basic peices like gloves bracer an arms grey out soon in your high 20's. Pristien carbonite, should you be able to afford it, you can get immediately at 20 and is at most 5-8% less in total stats than the quested stuff. And if you have the cash you can get the whole set at 20 and be able to do OTHER things beside armor quests for the rest of your next 10 levels. Most player crafted gear is really great quality and it is nice because 1) You don't have to hope it drops, 2) It ALL lasts 10 levels (nearly universally quest or drop gear has a 5 levle lifespan to mastery), 3) It has cash value when your done by reselling, selling to an NPC merchant or passing down to an alt. You cannot do that with quest gear. But then if you look at my sig you can probably tell why I am biased to PC made goods. __________________

01-23-2005, 01:38 AM	#6
JarredDarque Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 270	Do the AQs and the spindlecog quest out of the baubleshire for a better helmut. For gloves locate the Gauntlets of Storms...dont know wehre form, odnt remember. At lvl 28, ypristine forged bracers and gloves are better, and also do that serious PITA quest for the Dwarven work boots from Hwal Rucksif in Antonica, those will last you to just past lvl 30.. At lvl 27, I am not wearing any armor I have bought, and almost all pristine forged gold/agate or better jewelry, better is pristine shard braclets and a few other rare things like that. For shields, suggest Ancient Kite shield, it drops somewhat regularly from Guard Capatian Hess is SH, at lvl 27, it gives me 254 AC I believe. It goes well with Berik, Sword of Thunder, from SH as well. Best two hander is the steel maul form SH, up to lvl 25, when the pristine forged greatsword out does it. p.s. If you can afford it, buy a full set of vanguard or plate to start off with when doing AQs and just replace the pieces as you get them and sell off what you had. with this, your AC at lvl 25 will be a but over 1500, which I have yet to see better on Unrest server. At lvl 27, I am just under 1700 AC, but my AC is gonna start hurting in the next few lvls, as I dont have pristine forged pieces, tehy are normal forged. oh well... __________________ -Jarred Darque-Sanctus Covenir -Server-Unrest -Lvl 70 Pally, 70 Armorer -

01-23-2005, 02:02 AM	#7
Durlinn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 51	The AQ armor is only better until it peaks. Which I believe is 26 or 27. Then the pristine will do until 30. Jarred has the right idea. Go pristine and swap pieces as you go thru the quests. If you can afford it, that is. :smileywink: __________________

01-23-2005, 05:25 AM	#8
hieronym General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 493	you also got these boots were made for walking quest. Its a long one but worth it. Talk to hwal at Ardent keep for it Skill Required 110-150 Agility +7, Strength +5, Disease + 8, Health +25, Poison +9, Power +15 __________________ Hiero the Ranger Essen the Zerker

01-19-2005, 01:19 AM	#1
Lav Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Hey guys,I'm about to ding 20 at become a Pally. I noticed that there is some player made Vanguard armor I can outfit myself in and there is also the Armor quest armor I could wear. My question is, is the player made pristine vanguard armor better than the AQ armor? Is it the same level armor? Should I get the player made and then do the AQ? Any help would be appreciated. I tried doing a search on this but it kept failing.Cheers,

01-19-2005, 01:33 AM	#2
RSZ Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 201	It is really not better, keep most of your AQ armor till late 20's. Spend money on jewelry instead.

01-19-2005, 10:37 PM	#4
Flet Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Yeah - do the AQs... The AQs are also a great way to meet other players at the same level who are working on the same things. You get XP, good loot, and make friends. The only problem with the AQ stuff is you can't sell it afterwards, but heck, it didn't cost you anything but time in the first place to get it. The total of AC and stats really is very comparable to the the Prisitne Carb stuff. As mentioned, the look of the AQ stuff isn't very good, but who cares, you'll be lvl 30 in no time and dumping the AQ stuff before you know it.

01-24-2005, 03:07 PM	#9
frawdd Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	Something to note about the armour quest items, is that not all parts can be equiped at lvl20. Its mid 20's before you can equip the beastplate and greeves. So if you have the money, full Vanguard would be the way to go. Another option would be to purchase vanguard greeves and breastplate then completed the early AQ parts at lvl20-21. As mentioned, the gloves, boots and helm can be quested (though don't expect to get the boots at lvl20 unless you group with those at higher levels, Bloodtalon is lvl27^^ and does lots of damage.) By mid to late 20's you will be questing in RoV and CoB which have nice armour for lvl30. The non-pristine feyiron armour can be worn before lvl30 and though it might have slightly less AC, there is a considerable jump in resistance and other stats, which comes in handy against non-melee mob. __________________ Frawdder - Paladin of Everfrost "What if this is as good as it gets!"