Chaos Descending Ascension Feedback

Caith · 10-09-2018, 03:24 AM

With Chaos Descending all four Ascension classes increase in maximum level to 20 and give a mixture of three upgraded abilities from the first 10 Ascension levels, as well as three new abilities. To make testing easier, Finch the beta merchant will provide you with an Ascension draught that will set your ascension class and level to 20. Finch can be located at the Ulteran Spire Network in Myrist, the Great Library.

Please provide all feedback to new and upgraded Chaos Descending Ascension abilities here. Please remember to be specific, including the name of the ability, the tier (apprentice, adept, etc), as well as any relevant constructive feedback.

10-09-2018, 11:58 PM

While looking at elementalist spells we only get 5 new ( or upgraded ) while others other gets 6
Also the dmg increases from ancient wildfire vs ancient wildfire 2 seems to be non existant?

Arieva · 10-10-2018, 12:35 AM

Additionally on the Elementalist new spell Domain of Fire, did you forget to put a 0 on the end of those damage numbers? At 5min40 second reuse the damage numbers look way low compared to other ascensions at much lower reuse. For example Implosion at Journeyman is reading 6,823,918 - 26,756,128 at my current stat level on beta with a 3 minute 24 second reuse. Journeyman domain of earth is 5,599,963-7,385,994. Obviously low end is similar but high end is pitiful on the new spell and reuse time is 5min40sec. The tick damage is equally low on the high end of this new ascension. At 5 minute reuse I'd definitely expect numbers to be more on par with implosion. Or reuse needs to be drastically reduced on this

Arieva · 10-10-2018, 12:40 AM

How are you accessing the numbers on upgraded tiers of the new abilities, did i miss a bauble somewhere to level these?

10-10-2018, 12:51 AM

You can look at the sage recipes

Meshuggahx · 10-10-2018, 02:05 AM

For the third expansion now, elemental amalgamation is still bugged for pet players and does no extra damage. Can just remove that spell please if you don't intend to fix it?

Arieva · 10-10-2018, 02:28 AM

Elemental Amalgamation is not bugged for all pet players. I've never had a problem getting its damage to show up on my conji. Although I've heard the reports that its doing 0 damage for some its not all.

knine · 10-10-2018, 03:09 AM

there is no level 18 elementalist spell is why. Oversight

10-10-2018, 07:36 PM

What does Blistering Waste do exactly? it appears in advanced Sage 2 book but all versions have no detail for it. Im assuming its an ascension...is it the missing 118 elementalist spell?

Mermut · 10-11-2018, 01:35 AM

Thaumaturgist:
I'm noticing that Blood Contract I, even only at journeyman, is better then Blood Contract II at apprentice. Is it intended that the 'upgraded' version be so small an upgrade?

Meshuggahx · 10-11-2018, 08:14 AM

My main toon is bugged and i have a friend's toon that is bugged. if an ability works for 98% players it doesn't mean it doesn't needed to be fixed.

Beee · 10-11-2018, 08:33 PM

Asc lv 10 Buff (eg. Elementalist Elemental Avatar):
I dont think that the spell level get the correct output in fervor now:
Journeyman: 2 Fervor
Adept 2.2 Fervor
Grandmaster 3 Fervor
Ancient 3,6 + 3,6 = 7,2 Fervor

but I'm sure it's allready on your todo list Wink

10-12-2018, 02:03 AM

i think its intenden cuz the normal ascension pot buff gives 18% pot and extra 3,6 fervor. so the second fervor is a nice update.

10-12-2018, 03:06 AM

Dominion of Fire & Elemental Overlord are very underwhelming so far. I didn't expect the world, though I did expect that it would be viable to cast at apprentice. It was not true however, It provided damage less than anguish and some of the other proc damage.

10-12-2018, 10:05 AM

Dominion of Fire agree completely, and given the cast time / downtime of it, its not really worth casting. In any reasonable group, the trash would be close to death by the time you'd cast it.

Elemental overlord. Mmm. Another DoT. The class needs at least ne decent ST. Wildfire isn't decent, its ascension filler lol

10-12-2018, 11:40 AM

Why doesn't the old rune work for the new Virulent Outbreak??

Karsa · 10-12-2018, 02:23 PM

because I think old orange rune works on Virulent Outbreak version 1..not version 2, there could new orange runes in works...but would nice if old ones worked...

10-12-2018, 03:20 PM

How do we level the new ascensions? Are we able to get more guided ascensions or am I missing something?

Mermut · 10-12-2018, 04:58 PM

They haven't revealed how we're going to level them up yet.

Ingerimm · 10-13-2018, 09:02 AM

"Ethereal Conduit" and "Ethereal Conduit II" are still bugged.

Still the way we both Caith worked on it 2 years ago.

If you press a pool conversion ability, the ability aborts, which is okay.

This also applies to the "Relentless Conviction" rune, which also counts as a pool conversion.

But the problem with the whole thing is that you have to relogg in order for the Ethereal Conduit or Ethereal Conduit 2 ability to work again.

Because this ability is then completely blocked until you start the game again.

And that's the bug, you can not restart the game each time, just because you used a pool conversion ability because it just needed the situation and "Ethereal Conduit" was running at this moment.

10-13-2018, 06:02 PM

Would it be possible to change Pact of the Fire tyrant to remove the non ward effect seeing as we get so much fervor with this expansion?

Uncle · 10-14-2018, 03:49 PM

cause it was set up for the old version not the new

Meshuggahx · 10-15-2018, 06:39 AM

If devs watching this, i got a third toon with elemental amalgamation bug now, so it's so far beastlord, ranger and dirge. Bugged on scouts only?

10-16-2018, 10:01 AM

how do we level ascensions ? I have scrolls but they give so little guided ascension xp .. and are we still locked at max 21 Mil guided ascension XP ?

10-17-2018, 06:35 PM

Bonds of Blood and Blood Parasite will benefit,or will remain unnecessary spells?

10-18-2018, 07:54 AM

The increase from Frozen Heavens I to Frozen Heavens II is non existant. it's a 0.05% (one half of 1 percent increase) when comparing identical tier spells.

10-18-2018, 07:56 AM

Increase in Blood Contract I to Blood contract II when comparing identical tier spells is also very low.(less than 1%)

10-18-2018, 05:46 PM

Thaumaturgis: Necrotic Consumption 20 lvl.
And why with the spell level, only fervor grows, and the damage remains the same. Should it be?

10-22-2018, 01:57 PM

ascension animation - VFX

could we get new FX ? Frozen heaven and dominion fo fire share exactly the same VFX.

also shared with elemental channeling, frost pyre and elemental overlord.

could we get new spell effects ?

10-24-2018, 12:26 PM

orange adorn fellowship of stone doesn't work on obsidian mind 2

10-10-2018, 12:40 AM	#4
Arieva New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	semisus said: ↑ “While looking at elementalist spells we only get 5 new ( or upgraded ) while others other gets 6 Also the dmg increases from ancient wildfire vs ancient wildfire 2 seems to be non existant?” How are you accessing the numbers on upgraded tiers of the new abilities, did i miss a bauble somewhere to level these?

10-10-2018, 03:09 AM	#8
knine Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	semisus said: ↑ “While looking at elementalist spells we only get 5 new ( or upgraded ) while others other gets 6 Also the dmg increases from ancient wildfire vs ancient wildfire 2 seems to be non existant?” there is no level 18 elementalist spell is why. Oversight

10-11-2018, 08:14 AM	#11
Meshuggahx Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 1	Arieva said: ↑ “Elemental Amalgamation is not bugged for all pet players. I've never had a problem getting its damage to show up on my conji. Although I've heard the reports that its doing 0 damage for some its not all.” My main toon is bugged and i have a friend's toon that is bugged. if an ability works for 98% players it doesn't mean it doesn't needed to be fixed.

10-12-2018, 04:58 PM	#19
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	EmJay said: ↑ “How do we level the new ascensions? Are we able to get more guided ascensions or am I missing something?” They haven't revealed how we're going to level them up yet.

10-14-2018, 03:49 PM	#22
Uncle Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	RomanSergeevich said: ↑ “Why doesn't the old rune work for the new Virulent Outbreak??” cause it was set up for the old version not the new

10-09-2018, 03:24 AM	#1
Caith Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	With Chaos Descending all four Ascension classes increase in maximum level to 20 and give a mixture of three upgraded abilities from the first 10 Ascension levels, as well as three new abilities. To make testing easier, Finch the beta merchant will provide you with an Ascension draught that will set your ascension class and level to 20. Finch can be located at the Ulteran Spire Network in Myrist, the Great Library. Please provide all feedback to new and upgraded Chaos Descending Ascension abilities here. Please remember to be specific, including the name of the ability, the tier (apprentice, adept, etc), as well as any relevant constructive feedback.

10-09-2018, 11:58 PM	#2
semisus Active Member Posts: n/a	While looking at elementalist spells we only get 5 new ( or upgraded ) while others other gets 6 Also the dmg increases from ancient wildfire vs ancient wildfire 2 seems to be non existant?

10-10-2018, 12:35 AM	#3
Arieva New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Additionally on the Elementalist new spell Domain of Fire, did you forget to put a 0 on the end of those damage numbers? At 5min40 second reuse the damage numbers look way low compared to other ascensions at much lower reuse. For example Implosion at Journeyman is reading 6,823,918 - 26,756,128 at my current stat level on beta with a 3 minute 24 second reuse. Journeyman domain of earth is 5,599,963-7,385,994. Obviously low end is similar but high end is pitiful on the new spell and reuse time is 5min40sec. The tick damage is equally low on the high end of this new ascension. At 5 minute reuse I'd definitely expect numbers to be more on par with implosion. Or reuse needs to be drastically reduced on this

10-10-2018, 12:51 AM	#5
semisus Active Member Posts: n/a	You can look at the sage recipes

10-10-2018, 02:05 AM	#6
Meshuggahx Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 1	For the third expansion now, elemental amalgamation is still bugged for pet players and does no extra damage. Can just remove that spell please if you don't intend to fix it?

10-10-2018, 02:28 AM	#7
Arieva New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Elemental Amalgamation is not bugged for all pet players. I've never had a problem getting its damage to show up on my conji. Although I've heard the reports that its doing 0 damage for some its not all.

10-10-2018, 07:36 PM	#9
Wimble Member Posts: n/a	What does Blistering Waste do exactly? it appears in advanced Sage 2 book but all versions have no detail for it. Im assuming its an ascension...is it the missing 118 elementalist spell?

10-11-2018, 01:35 AM	#10
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Thaumaturgist: I'm noticing that Blood Contract I, even only at journeyman, is better then Blood Contract II at apprentice. Is it intended that the 'upgraded' version be so small an upgrade?

10-11-2018, 08:33 PM	#12
Beee Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2	Asc lv 10 Buff (eg. Elementalist Elemental Avatar): I dont think that the spell level get the correct output in fervor now: Journeyman: 2 Fervor Adept 2.2 Fervor Grandmaster 3 Fervor Ancient 3,6 + 3,6 = 7,2 Fervor but I'm sure it's allready on your todo list

10-12-2018, 02:03 AM	#13
Sakurra Member Posts: n/a	i think its intenden cuz the normal ascension pot buff gives 18% pot and extra 3,6 fervor. so the second fervor is a nice update.

10-12-2018, 03:06 AM	#14
Towkin New Member Posts: n/a	Dominion of Fire & Elemental Overlord are very underwhelming so far. I didn't expect the world, though I did expect that it would be viable to cast at apprentice. It was not true however, It provided damage less than anguish and some of the other proc damage.

10-12-2018, 10:05 AM	#15
Wimble Member Posts: n/a	Dominion of Fire agree completely, and given the cast time / downtime of it, its not really worth casting. In any reasonable group, the trash would be close to death by the time you'd cast it. Elemental overlord. Mmm. Another DoT. The class needs at least ne decent ST. Wildfire isn't decent, its ascension filler lol

10-12-2018, 11:40 AM	#16
RomanSergeevich New Member Posts: n/a	Why doesn't the old rune work for the new Virulent Outbreak??

10-12-2018, 02:23 PM	#17
Karsa Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	because I think old orange rune works on Virulent Outbreak version 1..not version 2, there could new orange runes in works...but would nice if old ones worked...

10-12-2018, 03:20 PM	#18
EmJay New Member Posts: n/a	How do we level the new ascensions? Are we able to get more guided ascensions or am I missing something?

10-13-2018, 09:02 AM	#20
Ingerimm Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2	"Ethereal Conduit" and "Ethereal Conduit II" are still bugged. Still the way we both Caith worked on it 2 years ago. If you press a pool conversion ability, the ability aborts, which is okay. This also applies to the "Relentless Conviction" rune, which also counts as a pool conversion. But the problem with the whole thing is that you have to relogg in order for the Ethereal Conduit or Ethereal Conduit 2 ability to work again. Because this ability is then completely blocked until you start the game again. And that's the bug, you can not restart the game each time, just because you used a pool conversion ability because it just needed the situation and "Ethereal Conduit" was running at this moment.

10-13-2018, 06:02 PM	#21
semisus Active Member Posts: n/a	Would it be possible to change Pact of the Fire tyrant to remove the non ward effect seeing as we get so much fervor with this expansion?

10-15-2018, 06:39 AM	#23
Meshuggahx Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 1	If devs watching this, i got a third toon with elemental amalgamation bug now, so it's so far beastlord, ranger and dirge. Bugged on scouts only?

10-16-2018, 10:01 AM	#24
Earar Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	how do we level ascensions ? I have scrolls but they give so little guided ascension xp .. and are we still locked at max 21 Mil guided ascension XP ?

10-17-2018, 06:35 PM	#25
RomanSergeevich New Member Posts: n/a	Bonds of Blood and Blood Parasite will benefit,or will remain unnecessary spells?

10-18-2018, 07:54 AM	#26
Neroflop New Member Posts: n/a	The increase from Frozen Heavens I to Frozen Heavens II is non existant. it's a 0.05% (one half of 1 percent increase) when comparing identical tier spells.

10-18-2018, 07:56 AM	#27
Neroflop New Member Posts: n/a	Increase in Blood Contract I to Blood contract II when comparing identical tier spells is also very low.(less than 1%)

10-18-2018, 05:46 PM	#28
RomanSergeevich New Member Posts: n/a	Thaumaturgis: Necrotic Consumption 20 lvl. And why with the spell level, only fervor grows, and the damage remains the same. Should it be?

10-22-2018, 01:57 PM	#29
Earar Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	ascension animation - VFX could we get new FX ? Frozen heaven and dominion fo fire share exactly the same VFX. also shared with elemental channeling, frost pyre and elemental overlord. could we get new spell effects ?

10-24-2018, 12:26 PM	#30
Earar Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	orange adorn fellowship of stone doesn't work on obsidian mind 2