Graven Embrace-Feign death against green mobs? What's the point?

Ronte · 05-06-2005, 06:02 PM

Anybody find a use for this spell? I find it a little stupid to have a "get out of jail free" card for mobs 3+ levels lower than us. Why even use it? Cant you just beat it down anyway?

Dazzler- · 05-06-2005, 08:35 PM

Most ppl use it to make thier groups cleric faceplant...which is quite amusing!

I however use it to " Help " groups full of oddly named chars, pull mobs. Like for example, Blightwhip camp in RV, these groups need help pulling 5 or 6 adds to keep it interesting while they farm the named! SMILEY

Otherwise, I dont use it except to amuse myself.

jm212 · 05-06-2005, 10:16 PM

If you had bothered doing even a little bit of research, you would have found that the wording of the spell is wrong, and it works on much higher level mobs than it claims.

Ronte · 05-06-2005, 10:21 PM

jm21221 wrote:

If you had bothered doing even a little bit of research, you would have found that the wording of the spell is wrong, and it works on much higher level mobs than it claims.

Thanks? I guess?

Ishnar · 05-08-2005, 11:33 AM

jm21221 wrote:

If you had bothered doing even a little bit of research, you would have found that the wording of the spell is wrong, and it works on much higher level mobs than it claims.

Excellent! Now we are berated for reading the spell descriptions with no supplemental information provided by the critic: such as where to find the correct spell information or an attempt to fill the information void.

If the spell does work on higher level mobs, how much higher? Does the spell tier affect it, or is it level based? What incentive does a player have to attempt a spell in a situation the description states is inapplicable? Are you saying there is a wonderful site hidden within the endless expanse of the internet with this information while withholding it for yourself. Truly, your contribution towards the betterment of the shadowknight community cannot go unappreciated.

Ishnar

Deoxyribo · 05-09-2005, 10:42 AM

Yeah this spell sucks pretty bad, it rarely works on mobs higher level then you I would say in a combat situation against group mobs of equal or higher level it will work maybe 1/5 times. I am only level 32 atm with adept 1 of the spell.

jm212 · 05-09-2005, 03:15 PM

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=9&message.id=9093

vwlsskng · 05-09-2005, 07:40 PM

I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace.

DDevil_m · 05-10-2005, 02:30 AM

I am currently at level 39. I have used it numerous times against mobs up to 43 or 44 and never have a problem. Works pretty well. Oh and my GE is Adept 1.

Pheeb · 05-10-2005, 03:57 AM

vwlssknght wrote:I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace.

^^^ what he said... I had that spell failed 3 times in row (as I was testing it) with green mobs...they kept beating me up - lol - so no more - I only use it when am [Removed for Content] at my other useless squire (fun?)...I believe the description is right that it sucks....why don't they fix the description then? it's been there forever...

Margen · 05-10-2005, 04:44 AM

I've used it against yellow mobs with it working, plus I have used it on my healer when dodo hits the fan and it worked. Currently have it at adept one and find it usefull at times. Granted it does sometimes fail, but wouldn't call it useless.

Blackoath 32nd Troll Shadow Knight

VengeanceX · 05-10-2005, 07:31 AM

Pheebau wrote:

vwlssknght wrote:
I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace.

^^^ what he said...

I had that spell failed 3 times in row (as I was testing it) with green mobs...they kept beating me up - lol - so no more - I only use it when am [Removed for Content] at my other useless squire (fun?)...I believe the description is right that it sucks....why don't they fix the description then? it's been there forever...

One thing that a lot of people do not realize is that, if your feign death fails, you can simply hit your sit/stand key (mine is the deault, which is the "x" key) and continue running.

As for the spell itself, as other people have said it can be used on mobs higher than is stated in the spell description. My Apprentice IV version seems to be good for yellow mobs and maybe some low orange mobs. It also seems that each level of upgrade adds another level to the maximum level of mobs that would be fooled by this spell. I find the spell is actually very useful but it is a shame the the description is so far off the actual effect that most give up on it before ever trying it.

ArmadaXeenelk · 05-10-2005, 09:32 AM

VengeanceX wrote:

Pheebau wrote:

vwlssknght wrote:I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace.

^^^ what he said...I had that spell failed 3 times in row (as I was testing it) with green mobs...they kept beating me up - lol - so no more - I only use it when am [Removed for Content] at my other useless squire (fun?)...I believe the description is right that it sucks....why don't they fix the description then? it's been there forever...

One thing that a lot of people do not realize is that, if your feign death fails, you can simply hit your sit/stand key (mine is the deault, which is the "x" key) and continue running. EXACTLY! i'm glad someone said this, if my feign fails i just get up and run.

As for the spell itself, as other people have said it can be used on mobs higher than is stated in the spell description. My Apprentice IV version seems to be good for yellow mobs and maybe some low orange mobs. It also seems that each level of upgrade adds another level to the maximum level of mobs that would be fooled by this spell. I find the spell is actually very useful but it is a shame the the description is so far off the actual effect that most give up on it before ever trying it.

05-06-2005, 06:02 PM	#1
Ronte Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 14	Anybody find a use for this spell? I find it a little stupid to have a "get out of jail free" card for mobs 3+ levels lower than us. Why even use it? Cant you just beat it down anyway? __________________ System Specs: Athlon64 Venice 3000+, 1.8GHz, 512Kb cache, Single Core, Socket 939 Foxcon nForce4 mobo (Not SLI, Not SLI16X) 2GB PC3200 DDR RAM dual Channel ATI X800XL 256MB PCIx Video 2 Internal SATA hard drives NEC 3500 DVD Burner Stock on board sound nVidia Onboard Codecs On Board nVidia Ethernet Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen WXGA+ (1680X1050) monitor Dell 1801FP Ultrasharp 18" monitor 1280X1024 monitor

05-06-2005, 08:35 PM	#2
Dazzler- Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 53	Most ppl use it to make thier groups cleric faceplant...which is quite amusing! I however use it to " Help " groups full of oddly named chars, pull mobs. Like for example, Blightwhip camp in RV, these groups need help pulling 5 or 6 adds to keep it interesting while they farm the named! Otherwise, I dont use it except to amuse myself.

05-06-2005, 10:21 PM	#4
Ronte Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 14	jm21221 wrote: If you had bothered doing even a little bit of research, you would have found that the wording of the spell is wrong, and it works on much higher level mobs than it claims. Thanks? I guess? __________________ System Specs: Athlon64 Venice 3000+, 1.8GHz, 512Kb cache, Single Core, Socket 939 Foxcon nForce4 mobo (Not SLI, Not SLI16X) 2GB PC3200 DDR RAM dual Channel ATI X800XL 256MB PCIx Video 2 Internal SATA hard drives NEC 3500 DVD Burner Stock on board sound nVidia Onboard Codecs On Board nVidia Ethernet Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen WXGA+ (1680X1050) monitor Dell 1801FP Ultrasharp 18" monitor 1280X1024 monitor

05-08-2005, 11:33 AM	#5
Ishnar Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 423	jm21221 wrote: If you had bothered doing even a little bit of research, you would have found that the wording of the spell is wrong, and it works on much higher level mobs than it claims. Excellent! Now we are berated for reading the spell descriptions with no supplemental information provided by the critic: such as where to find the correct spell information or an attempt to fill the information void. If the spell does work on higher level mobs, how much higher? Does the spell tier affect it, or is it level based? What incentive does a player have to attempt a spell in a situation the description states is inapplicable? Are you saying there is a wonderful site hidden within the endless expanse of the internet with this information while withholding it for yourself. Truly, your contribution towards the betterment of the shadowknight community cannot go unappreciated. Ishnar

05-10-2005, 02:30 AM	#9
DDevil_m Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6	I am currently at level 39. I have used it numerous times against mobs up to 43 or 44 and never have a problem. Works pretty well. Oh and my GE is Adept 1. __________________ Ddman 51st Iksar ShadowKnight of Honor Guard

05-06-2005, 10:16 PM	#3
jm212 General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 24	If you had bothered doing even a little bit of research, you would have found that the wording of the spell is wrong, and it works on much higher level mobs than it claims.

05-09-2005, 10:42 AM	#6
Deoxyribo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2	Yeah this spell sucks pretty bad, it rarely works on mobs higher level then you I would say in a combat situation against group mobs of equal or higher level it will work maybe 1/5 times. I am only level 32 atm with adept 1 of the spell.

05-09-2005, 03:15 PM	#7
jm212 General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 24	http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=9&message.id=9093

05-09-2005, 07:40 PM	#8
vwlsskng Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 710	I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace.

05-10-2005, 03:57 AM	#10
Pheeb Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 317	vwlssknght wrote:I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace. ^^^ what he said... I had that spell failed 3 times in row (as I was testing it) with green mobs...they kept beating me up - lol - so no more - I only use it when am [Removed for Content] at my other useless squire (fun?)...I believe the description is right that it sucks....why don't they fix the description then? it's been there forever...

05-10-2005, 04:44 AM	#11
Margen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 648	I've used it against yellow mobs with it working, plus I have used it on my healer when dodo hits the fan and it worked. Currently have it at adept one and find it usefull at times. Granted it does sometimes fail, but wouldn't call it useless. Blackoath 32nd Troll Shadow Knight __________________ Blackoath Uglyone 80 Shadow Knight of Chaos Phang 80 Swashbuckler of Chaos You EVER going to fix SKs Sony?

05-10-2005, 07:31 AM	#12
VengeanceX Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 76	Pheebau wrote: vwlssknght wrote: I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace. ^^^ what he said... I had that spell failed 3 times in row (as I was testing it) with green mobs...they kept beating me up - lol - so no more - I only use it when am [Removed for Content] at my other useless squire (fun?)...I believe the description is right that it sucks....why don't they fix the description then? it's been there forever... One thing that a lot of people do not realize is that, if your feign death fails, you can simply hit your sit/stand key (mine is the deault, which is the "x" key) and continue running. As for the spell itself, as other people have said it can be used on mobs higher than is stated in the spell description. My Apprentice IV version seems to be good for yellow mobs and maybe some low orange mobs. It also seems that each level of upgrade adds another level to the maximum level of mobs that would be fooled by this spell. I find the spell is actually very useful but it is a shame the the description is so far off the actual effect that most give up on it before ever trying it.

05-10-2005, 09:32 AM	#13
ArmadaXeenelk Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	VengeanceX wrote: Pheebau wrote: vwlssknght wrote:I've never even had it on my hotbar. If the spell fails, you're pretty much finished. I'd rather try to run. Heh, I miss Death Peace. ^^^ what he said...I had that spell failed 3 times in row (as I was testing it) with green mobs...they kept beating me up - lol - so no more - I only use it when am [Removed for Content] at my other useless squire (fun?)...I believe the description is right that it sucks....why don't they fix the description then? it's been there forever... One thing that a lot of people do not realize is that, if your feign death fails, you can simply hit your sit/stand key (mine is the deault, which is the "x" key) and continue running. EXACTLY! i'm glad someone said this, if my feign fails i just get up and run. As for the spell itself, as other people have said it can be used on mobs higher than is stated in the spell description. My Apprentice IV version seems to be good for yellow mobs and maybe some low orange mobs. It also seems that each level of upgrade adds another level to the maximum level of mobs that would be fooled by this spell. I find the spell is actually very useful but it is a shame the the description is so far off the actual effect that most give up on it before ever trying it. __________________ \| Armada Xeneelk \| 70 Shadowknight \| 70 Alchemist \| Transmuter \| Mada \| 70 Dirge \| Tinkerer \| Antonia Bayle