AGI AA : 3rd and 5th Line Skill

Parasite · 03-24-2006, 08:00 PM

As i have seen on the post showing our AA's AGI is completly useless ...

Not shure if it still the same cuz at work here.

But what is the point of having the RECOVERY timers ( Is not the recast timer but the 0.5 sec after u cast the skill ) Reduced by 20% For what possible skill do u need this? Unless it's meant to be or already switched to Recast timers this skill is utterly pointless.

Then for the 5th skill in the Agi AA line : What are we supposed to do with that ?Cast it on a raid friend ( if that's even possible ) probably the main tank so that in case he dies he still has his buffs and he needs only a heal , fine but if he dies doesn't he lose agro anyways ? Thus making it kind of pretty much Impossible to prevent raid from whipe anyways since most of dps and healers will be out by the time he ges agro back ?

I don't see the use in casting it on any other raid member really ...As for in groups , shure it's has it use , but who's gonna blast 8 points on this ? Monks get group FD anyways and i rather spend the 8 points in something that would prevent me from losing agro or dying in the first place.

Greetings

CosmicAcidGu · 03-24-2006, 08:24 PM

if you cast it on the MT, it fires, MT FDes, and during the seconds that the mob is lose and kills some dps, the healers heal the MT back to full HP and he can go on tanking. So instead of a complete wipe, you maybe only lost 2-3 dps chars.this is just in theory, but can work out nicely. Problem is that most plate tanks have gotten too many hits on the head and when they are FD, they spam raid channel that they are perma-stunned, can't move or use combat arts. When you tell them to stand up, they reply that standing up doesnt cure stun.In a perfect world, this skill is nice. In a realistic world, it isn't. But that isn't the skill's fault.Finnster

PhozFa · 03-24-2006, 08:37 PM

Parasiteke wrote:
As i have seen on the post showing our AA's AGI is completly useless ...
Not shure if it still the same cuz at work here.

But what is the point of having the RECOVERY timers ( Is not the recast timer but the 0.5 sec after u cast the skill ) Reduced by 20% For what possible skill do u need this? Unless it's meant to be or already switched to Recast timers this skill is utterly pointless.

Then for the 5th skill in the Agi AA line : What are we supposed to do with that ?Cast it on a raid friend ( if that's even possible ) probably the main tank so that in case he dies he still has his buffs and he needs only a heal , fine but if he dies doesn't he lose agro anyways ? Thus making it kind of pretty much Impossible to prevent raid from whipe anyways since most of dps and healers will be out by the time he ges agro back ?

I don't see the use in casting it on any other raid member really ...As for in groups , shure it's has it use , but who's gonna blast 8 points on this ? Monks get group FD anyways and i rather spend the 8 points in something that would prevent me from losing agro or dying in the first place.

Greetings

alot of people dislike the agi AA line. notice in all the threads people talk about all the other ones except that one.

CosmicAcidGu · 03-24-2006, 08:55 PM

why I like the AGI line and chose it:- Altruism is just cool. period. Put it on your healer / mezzer in your group. Or on your puller on raids. it's nice.- the other only 5th rank ability that was interesting to me was in the STR line, but since I don't want to fight unarmed, it was no option for me.- there are 3 lines that give a defensive skill bonus which I wanted. I don't see one of them being really superior to the other 2.- the reduced recast time is nice for soloing. Good example is when I did the philosophers for the Claymore Quest: 71^^^ brawler type mobs. They can avoid stuns you do from behind. If one of them fails, my mezz is back up fast enough and I don't get a beating for a few secs.- I don't care about that strange CA that reduces my recovery times. But every line has something I wouldn't want.Finnster

Pnaxx · 03-24-2006, 09:01 PM

Phinnster, your sig reminds me of a great saying....."The second mouse gets the cheese!" Though clearly this here mouse on you sig is the exception :smileywink:

03-24-2006, 08:24 PM	#2
CosmicAcidGu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 200	if you cast it on the MT, it fires, MT FDes, and during the seconds that the mob is lose and kills some dps, the healers heal the MT back to full HP and he can go on tanking. So instead of a complete wipe, you maybe only lost 2-3 dps chars.this is just in theory, but can work out nicely. Problem is that most plate tanks have gotten too many hits on the head and when they are FD, they spam raid channel that they are perma-stunned, can't move or use combat arts. When you tell them to stand up, they reply that standing up doesnt cure stun.In a perfect world, this skill is nice. In a realistic world, it isn't. But that isn't the skill's fault.Finnster __________________

03-24-2006, 08:37 PM	#3
PhozFa General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Parasiteke wrote: As i have seen on the post showing our AA's AGI is completly useless ... Not shure if it still the same cuz at work here. But what is the point of having the RECOVERY timers ( Is not the recast timer but the 0.5 sec after u cast the skill ) Reduced by 20% For what possible skill do u need this? Unless it's meant to be or already switched to Recast timers this skill is utterly pointless. Then for the 5th skill in the Agi AA line : What are we supposed to do with that ?Cast it on a raid friend ( if that's even possible ) probably the main tank so that in case he dies he still has his buffs and he needs only a heal , fine but if he dies doesn't he lose agro anyways ? Thus making it kind of pretty much Impossible to prevent raid from whipe anyways since most of dps and healers will be out by the time he ges agro back ? I don't see the use in casting it on any other raid member really ...As for in groups , shure it's has it use , but who's gonna blast 8 points on this ? Monks get group FD anyways and i rather spend the 8 points in something that would prevent me from losing agro or dying in the first place. Greetings alot of people dislike the agi AA line. notice in all the threads people talk about all the other ones except that one. __________________

03-24-2006, 08:55 PM	#4
CosmicAcidGu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 200	why I like the AGI line and chose it:- Altruism is just cool. period. Put it on your healer / mezzer in your group. Or on your puller on raids. it's nice.- the other only 5th rank ability that was interesting to me was in the STR line, but since I don't want to fight unarmed, it was no option for me.- there are 3 lines that give a defensive skill bonus which I wanted. I don't see one of them being really superior to the other 2.- the reduced recast time is nice for soloing. Good example is when I did the philosophers for the Claymore Quest: 71^^^ brawler type mobs. They can avoid stuns you do from behind. If one of them fails, my mezz is back up fast enough and I don't get a beating for a few secs.- I don't care about that strange CA that reduces my recovery times. But every line has something I wouldn't want.Finnster __________________

03-24-2006, 08:00 PM	#1
Parasite Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Belgium - Europe Posts: 53	As i have seen on the post showing our AA's AGI is completly useless ... Not shure if it still the same cuz at work here. But what is the point of having the RECOVERY timers ( Is not the recast timer but the 0.5 sec after u cast the skill ) Reduced by 20% For what possible skill do u need this? Unless it's meant to be or already switched to Recast timers this skill is utterly pointless. Then for the 5th skill in the Agi AA line : What are we supposed to do with that ?Cast it on a raid friend ( if that's even possible ) probably the main tank so that in case he dies he still has his buffs and he needs only a heal , fine but if he dies doesn't he lose agro anyways ? Thus making it kind of pretty much Impossible to prevent raid from whipe anyways since most of dps and healers will be out by the time he ges agro back ? I don't see the use in casting it on any other raid member really ...As for in groups , shure it's has it use , but who's gonna blast 8 points on this ? Monks get group FD anyways and i rather spend the 8 points in something that would prevent me from losing agro or dying in the first place. Greetings

03-24-2006, 09:01 PM	#5
Pnaxx Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,124	Phinnster, your sig reminds me of a great saying....."The second mouse gets the cheese!" Though clearly this here mouse on you sig is the exception :smileywink: