Advice on Master II Training choices?

Agathorn · 11-03-2005, 08:33 PM

I am currently a 23 Iksar Monk, so next level I believe I have another Master 2 choice to make, and of course many more to come in the levels ahead. I was wondering if there is any good advice on which ones to choose, and some reasoning behind that advice?I apologize if this information is elswhere but I did not see it in the FAQ or Skill List.I'm thinking of going with Wisdom of Zephyr at 24 because a quick scan of the skill list didin't seem to show any upgrades that gave more haste. The skill itself has upgrades in the line, but the higher versions didin't list haste as part of the buffs.

MadBarman · 11-03-2005, 08:43 PM

All the Wisdom of Zephyr upgrades are haste buffs. However it is still a good choice for a master 2 as it gives the same amount of haste as the lvl 51 adept 1 upgrade.

Dfoley3 · 11-03-2005, 10:53 PM

21. Sparking Cobra - melee dmg on all targets in area *upgrade Whirl.7*22. Hand Clap - group taunt, interupts all enemies in encounter *upgrade Shout.8*23. Wisdom of Zephyl - increase offense group, increase dmg monk *upgrade Call to Arms.9*24. Grappeling Bear - melee attack, decrease defense of target * upgrade Power Strike.10* lvl 24 choices upgrade to master 2: Sparking Cobra- ae dmg Hand Clap- ae taunt Wisdom Of Zephyl - group haste Grappling Bear -def debuffid recomend against sparking cobra and grappling bear. Both are atks, and sparking cobra most of all is situational, and dangerous. Grappling bear isnt dangerous but is not the best atk and if ur low on power ur more likely to use a better attack.Hand clap - good choice for tanking, holding agro is keen and atm very hard so a master 2 group taunt will helpwisdom of zephyl- imho the best choice, group haste so u benifit everyone ur grouped with.lvl 34 Silent Threat Everburning Flame Martial Discipline Darting Sparrowi personaly went martial discipline for the avoidance buff and improved deflectionlvl 44Will Of The Wind Dragon Advance Shocking Hand Icy TalonI personaly had issues, i initaly went dragon advance and got lvl 60, i held agro like a pro, down side was the adept 3 of the upgraded version was about 50 more hate per proc so i went back and got will of the wind....only to have it fixed the next day in the patch (used to cure noxious while the upper level version didnt, now both cure noxios) so its all about what you want while u level54Agitate Spirit Calm Tranquility Swooping Crane Inner Calmi went calm tranquility without a second thought, group haste makes every melee im with better, the taunt was 20 points more hate then master 1 taunt, the crane was 40 more dmg then master 1 , and inner clam...well couldnt bring myself to getting a str + wis buff over a haste buff.A note on all trainings. get what youll use most then, as 99% of them you wont even be using 10 lvls from then so theres really no right or wrong, just a "best for that time and situation'

Deathspell · 11-04-2005, 06:43 PM

Definately Grapling Bear or Wisdom of Zephyr. I solo a lot, so I figured Grapling Bear would be best for me, I haven't regret it since SMILEY

But like someone stated, it's only for 10 levels and if you really want you can upgrade the other spell to Adept 3. You can't make a wrong decision really.

stfields · 11-04-2005, 08:21 PM

Sparking Cobra is situational as mentioned. Poor choice.

AE Taunt is situational - if you solo even 50% of the time, pass this up.

Grappling Bear - its the stun portion you care about which you get at AppI. Pass this up.

Wisdom of Zephyl - I think this group haste at Master II is good up until the level 51 group haste upgrade. Considering that you will always have this buff on, and it helps you solo and in a group, this is what I recommend.

Agathorn · 11-07-2005, 07:59 PM

stfields wrote:
Grappling Bear - its the stun portion you care about which you get at AppI. Pass this up.

Grappling bear is supposed to have a stun? Are you sure, or perhaps you mean a different CA? I was just looking at it and it mentions no stun on the App1 or App2 versions.

11-03-2005, 08:33 PM	#1
Agathorn Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 126	I am currently a 23 Iksar Monk, so next level I believe I have another Master 2 choice to make, and of course many more to come in the levels ahead. I was wondering if there is any good advice on which ones to choose, and some reasoning behind that advice?I apologize if this information is elswhere but I did not see it in the FAQ or Skill List.I'm thinking of going with Wisdom of Zephyr at 24 because a quick scan of the skill list didin't seem to show any upgrades that gave more haste. The skill itself has upgrades in the line, but the higher versions didin't list haste as part of the buffs. __________________ - Day 1 Test Server Only Player - Agassar, Agathorn, Agalorn..If it starts with Ag its probably me!

11-04-2005, 06:43 PM	#4
Deathspell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 727	Definately Grapling Bear or Wisdom of Zephyr. I solo a lot, so I figured Grapling Bear would be best for me, I haven't regret it since But like someone stated, it's only for 10 levels and if you really want you can upgrade the other spell to Adept 3. You can't make a wrong decision really.

11-04-2005, 08:21 PM	#5
stfields Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 295	Sparking Cobra is situational as mentioned. Poor choice. AE Taunt is situational - if you solo even 50% of the time, pass this up. Grappling Bear - its the stun portion you care about which you get at AppI. Pass this up. Wisdom of Zephyl - I think this group haste at Master II is good up until the level 51 group haste upgrade. Considering that you will always have this buff on, and it helps you solo and in a group, this is what I recommend. __________________ ~Taveren Kinslayer~ 60 Armorer/Alchemist/Jeweler 60 Weaponsmith/Sage/Woodworker 60 Monk ~ RETIRED

11-07-2005, 07:59 PM	#6
Agathorn Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 126	stfields wrote: Grappling Bear - its the stun portion you care about which you get at AppI. Pass this up. Grappling bear is supposed to have a stun? Are you sure, or perhaps you mean a different CA? I was just looking at it and it mentions no stun on the App1 or App2 versions. __________________ - Day 1 Test Server Only Player - Agassar, Agathorn, Agalorn..If it starts with Ag its probably me!

11-03-2005, 08:43 PM	#2
MadBarman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 242	All the Wisdom of Zephyr upgrades are haste buffs. However it is still a good choice for a master 2 as it gives the same amount of haste as the lvl 51 adept 1 upgrade.

11-03-2005, 10:53 PM	#3
Dfoley3 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 259	21. Sparking Cobra - melee dmg on all targets in area upgrade Whirl.722. Hand Clap - group taunt, interupts all enemies in encounter upgrade Shout.823. Wisdom of Zephyl - increase offense group, increase dmg monk upgrade Call to Arms.924. Grappeling Bear - melee attack, decrease defense of target * upgrade Power Strike.10* lvl 24 choices upgrade to master 2: Sparking Cobra- ae dmg Hand Clap- ae taunt Wisdom Of Zephyl - group haste Grappling Bear -def debuffid recomend against sparking cobra and grappling bear. Both are atks, and sparking cobra most of all is situational, and dangerous. Grappling bear isnt dangerous but is not the best atk and if ur low on power ur more likely to use a better attack.Hand clap - good choice for tanking, holding agro is keen and atm very hard so a master 2 group taunt will helpwisdom of zephyl- imho the best choice, group haste so u benifit everyone ur grouped with.lvl 34 Silent Threat Everburning Flame Martial Discipline Darting Sparrowi personaly went martial discipline for the avoidance buff and improved deflectionlvl 44Will Of The Wind Dragon Advance Shocking Hand Icy TalonI personaly had issues, i initaly went dragon advance and got lvl 60, i held agro like a pro, down side was the adept 3 of the upgraded version was about 50 more hate per proc so i went back and got will of the wind....only to have it fixed the next day in the patch (used to cure noxious while the upper level version didnt, now both cure noxios) so its all about what you want while u level54Agitate Spirit Calm Tranquility Swooping Crane Inner Calmi went calm tranquility without a second thought, group haste makes every melee im with better, the taunt was 20 points more hate then master 1 taunt, the crane was 40 more dmg then master 1 , and inner clam...well couldnt bring myself to getting a str + wis buff over a haste buff.A note on all trainings. get what youll use most then, as 99% of them you wont even be using 10 lvls from then so theres really no right or wrong, just a "best for that time and situation'