Advanced Solo and Heroic Dungeon NPC Difficulty

Fyreflyte · 10-03-2014, 10:48 PM

Hello beta testers! In this thread, I am looking for feedback on the difficulty of NPCs found in our [Advanced Solo] and [Heroic] flagged dungeons. Any feedback you have will help us, but the more specific, the better. If you feel an NPC is too hard or too easy, let us know why: too many hitpoints, too little melee damage, an ability that 1-shots you, etc.

Be aware that during testing, the dungeons will be applying a buff to you that will bring your stats and mitigation up to a base level, but players in high end raid gear may still be well over these minimums, making some content very easy. Please give at least a rough detail of your group makeup and what type of gear you were using when leaving your feedback.

Thanks in advance!
Fyreflyte

Lare · 10-21-2014, 02:45 AM

Ossuary Resonance of Malice Advanced Solo. myself Raided gear lock and merc.

Of the 4 names only one was of any difficulty that being the 2nd.. The one that casts the boneshard. It was a painful fight that lasted over 15 minutes. Way to much hit points. My merc ended up dying and I just soloed it for most of the 15 minutes. Once you work out the strat is was simple but slow.

The first and 3rd name died so fast if they if they had a script I would not know just burned it in less that 5 seconds easyer than most of the trash.

The last name took a little longer but maybe less than a minute.

Their is a trash name that roams the 2nd floor that can one shot u. Even in raid gear. Until I swapped out and put some stones skin wards gear I could not kill it. But once I did it was just a matter of rooting stunning and nuking it dead. It was hitting for more than 400k a pop.

The zone was not hard and could have done it without the merc but the wait of healing up ment the merc was of use.

The 2nd name was far harder than anything in the zone (well not hard just a long long long fight).

The stone skin purple pattern and the stone skin wards made for little damage. p

Grundge · 10-24-2014, 02:31 AM

OK, well I tried the Heroic Brokenskull Bay: Bilgwater Falls. A group of 6, all level 100 with just the quest gear that was bought and partly from the overland quests.

Result: Was able to kill the first 3 npcs in the zone, after that I wiped on every single mob. Sure yea I am boxing the group but my god, ToV heroics was not like this.

I was just messing around but wow that was tough.

Blambil · 10-28-2014, 12:44 AM

Tried : Ossuary: Resonance of Malice (Advanced Solo) several times, with several toons.
-- There are a couple of nasty mobs that 1-shot you, no spell hits, no dmg message, just dead.. Don't like them, give us data to make it a fair fight. They 1-shot through death saves, through stone-skins. Not fair.
-- named mobs - not bad, have to watch for emotes/etc.. the bones suck, but are avoidable.
-- last encounter - -wasn't able to kill the last encounter with ANY combination of toons / mercs / gear.. Too many HPS, dmg too burst, can't keep up.

Velros · 10-31-2014, 02:53 PM

Ssraeshza Temple (Heroic) [NPC - Kavis Set'Ra],
unless there is more too it than the right group set up, i'd say that the DR is far too high,
a full scout group is doomed on that named, (DOOOOOMED) if i'm missing a part of the strat i could be wrong but as far as i can tell, after a certain % splits to 3.. all 3 port to the 3 pedestals, and that's all.. just kill them from there..
it took us 10 minutes to get them to 80% because of the 99% physical DR.. That's kinda harsh on scouts.. its a group zone after all.
again, if i am missing a piece of strat info let me know.. but here really didint seem like much of a strat at all

Lacutis · 11-01-2014, 12:12 AM

Castle Highhold (Heroic)

Just tried this zone and I am very well geared as was the group I was in. The last named simply has way too much stuff going on. I am not whining and I am sure there are groups that have succeeded but I am also guessing they were top tier players with stellar gear. This was a strong group. We understand the strategy. We are all raiders as well so we do know how to play but this fight with the last named really does take the scripting too far and we were all in agreement after countless pulls. Range issues, knockbacks at the moment we have to click banners. Various other scripting that I can't put a finger on now as I am half asleep. It was almost 4am EST. We all like a challenge but this one borders on stupid. I would love to see a group of devs in master crafted gear attempt this fight. Do you all actually try these fights yourself? I have played since day one and the last few years the scripting seems to have taken the fun out of the game. Also, do you understand the demographic that plays. We are not all kids or young adults. I turned 60 Sunday and my reflexes are still very good but too many things on and about the screen to keep track of makes me a very unhappy player. Some adjustments are in order here.
Thank you for listening to your normal older player.
Oxcy

Chrol · 11-02-2014, 06:41 AM

There is a strat that is present during that fight. That's all I'll say about that!

I submitted some changes to this fight today. If there's a beta build on Monday that should have the changes. I'd encourage you to try it again then and let me know how it goes.

phlik · 11-02-2014, 06:00 PM

if there was it didnt seem very apparent!!

phlik · 11-02-2014, 10:11 PM

so after spending 40 mins burning down adds becuase of their RIDICULUS dr only to wipe wiv the name at like 9% i have to say i officially hate this zone lol either we totally missed a part of the strat or it was supposed to be like this all i have to say is its totally ******** /sigh

11-02-2014, 06:41 AM	#7
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Velros said: ↑ “Ssraeshza Temple (Heroic) [NPC - Kavis Set'Ra]if i am missing a piece of strat info let me know.. but here really didint seem like much of a strat at all” There is a strat that is present during that fight. That's all I'll say about that! Lacutis said: ↑ “Castle Highhold (Heroic) Just tried this zone and I am very well geared as was the group I was in. The last named simply has way too much stuff going on.” I submitted some changes to this fight today. If there's a beta build on Monday that should have the changes. I'd encourage you to try it again then and let me know how it goes.

11-02-2014, 06:00 PM	#8
phlik Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	“There is a strat that is present during that fight. That's all I'll say about that!” if there was it didnt seem very apparent!!

10-03-2014, 10:48 PM	#1
Fyreflyte Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Hello beta testers! In this thread, I am looking for feedback on the difficulty of NPCs found in our [Advanced Solo] and [Heroic] flagged dungeons. Any feedback you have will help us, but the more specific, the better. If you feel an NPC is too hard or too easy, let us know why: too many hitpoints, too little melee damage, an ability that 1-shots you, etc. Be aware that during testing, the dungeons will be applying a buff to you that will bring your stats and mitigation up to a base level, but players in high end raid gear may still be well over these minimums, making some content very easy. Please give at least a rough detail of your group makeup and what type of gear you were using when leaving your feedback. Thanks in advance! Fyreflyte

10-21-2014, 02:45 AM	#2
Lare New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ossuary Resonance of Malice Advanced Solo. myself Raided gear lock and merc. Of the 4 names only one was of any difficulty that being the 2nd.. The one that casts the boneshard. It was a painful fight that lasted over 15 minutes. Way to much hit points. My merc ended up dying and I just soloed it for most of the 15 minutes. Once you work out the strat is was simple but slow. The first and 3rd name died so fast if they if they had a script I would not know just burned it in less that 5 seconds easyer than most of the trash. The last name took a little longer but maybe less than a minute. Their is a trash name that roams the 2nd floor that can one shot u. Even in raid gear. Until I swapped out and put some stones skin wards gear I could not kill it. But once I did it was just a matter of rooting stunning and nuking it dead. It was hitting for more than 400k a pop. The zone was not hard and could have done it without the merc but the wait of healing up ment the merc was of use. The 2nd name was far harder than anything in the zone (well not hard just a long long long fight). The stone skin purple pattern and the stone skin wards made for little damage. p

10-24-2014, 02:31 AM	#3
Grundge Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	OK, well I tried the Heroic Brokenskull Bay: Bilgwater Falls. A group of 6, all level 100 with just the quest gear that was bought and partly from the overland quests. Result: Was able to kill the first 3 npcs in the zone, after that I wiped on every single mob. Sure yea I am boxing the group but my god, ToV heroics was not like this. I was just messing around but wow that was tough.

10-28-2014, 12:44 AM	#4
Blambil Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Tried : Ossuary: Resonance of Malice (Advanced Solo) several times, with several toons. -- There are a couple of nasty mobs that 1-shot you, no spell hits, no dmg message, just dead.. Don't like them, give us data to make it a fair fight. They 1-shot through death saves, through stone-skins. Not fair. -- named mobs - not bad, have to watch for emotes/etc.. the bones suck, but are avoidable. -- last encounter - -wasn't able to kill the last encounter with ANY combination of toons / mercs / gear.. Too many HPS, dmg too burst, can't keep up.

10-31-2014, 02:53 PM	#5
Velros New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ssraeshza Temple (Heroic) [NPC - Kavis Set'Ra], unless there is more too it than the right group set up, i'd say that the DR is far too high, a full scout group is doomed on that named, (DOOOOOMED) if i'm missing a part of the strat i could be wrong but as far as i can tell, after a certain % splits to 3.. all 3 port to the 3 pedestals, and that's all.. just kill them from there.. it took us 10 minutes to get them to 80% because of the 99% physical DR.. That's kinda harsh on scouts.. its a group zone after all. again, if i am missing a piece of strat info let me know.. but here really didint seem like much of a strat at all

11-01-2014, 12:12 AM	#6
Lacutis New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Castle Highhold (Heroic) Just tried this zone and I am very well geared as was the group I was in. The last named simply has way too much stuff going on. I am not whining and I am sure there are groups that have succeeded but I am also guessing they were top tier players with stellar gear. This was a strong group. We understand the strategy. We are all raiders as well so we do know how to play but this fight with the last named really does take the scripting too far and we were all in agreement after countless pulls. Range issues, knockbacks at the moment we have to click banners. Various other scripting that I can't put a finger on now as I am half asleep. It was almost 4am EST. We all like a challenge but this one borders on stupid. I would love to see a group of devs in master crafted gear attempt this fight. Do you all actually try these fights yourself? I have played since day one and the last few years the scripting seems to have taken the fun out of the game. Also, do you understand the demographic that plays. We are not all kids or young adults. I turned 60 Sunday and my reflexes are still very good but too many things on and about the screen to keep track of makes me a very unhappy player. Some adjustments are in order here. Thank you for listening to your normal older player. Oxcy

11-02-2014, 10:11 PM	#9
phlik Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	so after spending 40 mins burning down adds becuase of their RIDICULUS dr only to wipe wiv the name at like 9% i have to say i officially hate this zone lol either we totally missed a part of the strat or it was supposed to be like this all i have to say is its totally ******** /sigh