Leaving mid match

Deathsound · 08-20-2012, 01:53 PM

Need to fix the /battleground add command. players leave mach but dont leave group. Players are using it to leave matches they are losing and the group cant get replacments.

convict · 08-20-2012, 08:38 PM

Deathsound wrote:

Need to fix the /battleground add command. players leave mach but dont leave group. Players are using it to leave matches they are losing and the group cant get replacments.

Yeah, it's out of hand now, as soon as people see they're going to lose, they leave and keep doing so until they get an easy win match. Stuff like this has plagued this game since any form of pvp has been added. I got tired of chasing people on naggy, and can't believe how much people run from you even in BG's.

Rageincarnate · 08-21-2012, 11:49 AM

NO! I was sooooo happy when someone told me about it. I'm sick to death of sitting on the white team watching bg's.

That was a way to actually rejoin the que and get a match i can play.

Rageincarnate · 08-21-2012, 12:10 PM

Now that i actually read your post.. If people are leaving.. it's a unbalanced fight. Funny thing is .. i've been killed in the air while jumping down in ganaks.. i was alive when i jumped.. i was dead when i hit the ground.

If a group is getting steamrolled, people should be able to leave.. and have others come in that can give the team an actual challenge. ** gear check ftw.

Let me translate what i read.. Gee sony.. we just came up against this group that we can steamroll and farm tokens.. don't let them get away.. i will get less tokens.

convict · 08-21-2012, 01:12 PM

Rageincarnate@Unrest wrote:

Now that i actually read your post.. If people are leaving.. it's a unbalanced fight. Funny thing is .. i've been killed in the air while jumping down in ganaks.. i was alive when i jumped.. i was dead when i hit the ground.
If a group is getting steamrolled, people should be able to leave.. and have others come in that can give the team an actual challenge. ** gear check ftw.
Let me translate what i read.. Gee sony.. we just came up against this group that we can steamroll and farm tokens.. don't let them get away.. i will get less tokens.

Then you need to read it again. People are looking for the easy kills, just like any form of pvp in this game. If they can't steamroll the other team, they leave and rejoin until they get a match they can, so they can get more tokens. See, it goes both ways.

Wanic · 08-21-2012, 02:45 PM

I first heard about it when i zoned onto a white team, and found out the command to reque, the unlucky few that get this (bug? or working as intended) the command should work, but is there no way to disable the command for the players who are on a team? Solves the problem people are having with those that leave mid match.

Shredderr · 08-21-2012, 02:53 PM

I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo.

Rageincarnate · 08-21-2012, 02:58 PM

Wanic@Runnyeye wrote:

I first heard about it when i zoned onto a white team, and found out the command to reque, the unlucky few that get this (bug? or working as intended) the command should work, but is there no way to disable the command for the players who are on a team? Solves the problem people are having with those that leave mid match.

no.. it doesn't cause you can just hit the exit button and get the 5 minute buff.

Yimway · 08-21-2012, 04:18 PM

Shredderr wrote:

I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo.

I've been on so many healerless teams that beat teams that had one.

Its defeatests that kill the game, and thats what this issue is, people not seeing an easy win moving on till they find one. Sadly, the worst offenders I've seen of this are some of the best dps parsers. If they see a team they may not be able to steamroll, requeue till they get one they know they can.

If team = red or team = blue then battleground add no worky.

Rageincarnate · 08-21-2012, 05:18 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Shredderr wrote:
I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo.
I've been on so many healerless teams that beat teams that had one.
Its defeatests that kill the game, and thats what this issue is, people not seeing an easy win moving on till they find one. Sadly, the worst offenders I've seen of this are some of the best dps parsers. If they see a team they may not be able to steamroll, requeue till they get one they know they can.
If team = red or team = blue then battleground add no worky.

Bah. I'm merely refering to the design itself. Maybe i'm in the minority. I want a good fight when i bg. When i'm sick of fighting. I quit playing.. I refuse to "grind" tokens. If it takes me a year.. so what. I'll think back and remember dang that was a good match.. or those guys were fun.. not ugh.. that grind sucked.

If i die in .2 seconds its not a challenge its stupid.. If i can't kill anyone and just beat on shammy wards for 400/700/1250 points.. It's also stupid. (IMO)

Vlahkmaak · 08-22-2012, 12:50 AM

People are leaving matches early to exploit a bug to farm tokens. Pay attention and watch the same several people do it repeatedly. More people have learned about it. Look at the amount of gear they had after the second week of the new content going live. Its easily reproducible and should have been fixed by now to prevent its abuse.

Cynicisim · 08-22-2012, 03:49 PM

Vlahkmaak@Nagafen wrote:

People are leaving matches early to exploit a bug to farm tokens. Pay attention and watch the same several people do it repeatedly. More people have learned about it. Look at the amount of gear they had after the second week of the new content going live. Its easily reproducible and should have been fixed by now to prevent its abuse.

Agree. I have seen two ways to farm the tokens. As more find the exploit the BGs will be even more rediclous then they are at the moment. if they get tokens or not I do not know as I have never left a bg except by way of LD>

Those that leave you can justify it anyway you wish but you cannot always ask for a random group and get a perfect set up. Bone up and play or play a different game.

gourdon · 08-26-2012, 08:03 AM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Shredderr wrote:
I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo.
I've been on so many healerless teams that beat teams that had one.
Its defeatests that kill the game, and thats what this issue is, people not seeing an easy win moving on till they find one. Sadly, the worst offenders I've seen of this are some of the best dps parsers. If they see a team they may not be able to steamroll, requeue till they get one they know they can.
If team = red or team = blue then battleground add no worky.

The killer is that the people who give up and don't leave make it impossible for the people trying to overcome the setback. Sometimes, just knocking out the right vulnerable player changes their whole team buff dynamic and they fall apart. The problem is many don't want to try different ways to get it done.

Delethen · 08-27-2012, 07:04 AM

The problem is I guess that it's hard to remove that battleground add command until they fix the matchmaker, or at the very least get rid of the white team bug.

If they did get round to fixing the matchmaker however it would probably make the dungeon finder viable too, seeing as that just reused the same garbage code.

It is pretty tiresome watching an ever increasing number of people abuse that battleground add command though.

08-20-2012, 08:38 PM	#2
convict Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 375	Deathsound wrote: Need to fix the /battleground add command. players leave mach but dont leave group. Players are using it to leave matches they are losing and the group cant get replacments. Yeah, it's out of hand now, as soon as people see they're going to lose, they leave and keep doing so until they get an easy win match. Stuff like this has plagued this game since any form of pvp has been added. I got tired of chasing people on naggy, and can't believe how much people run from you even in BG's. __________________

08-21-2012, 01:12 PM	#5
convict Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 375	Rageincarnate@Unrest wrote: Now that i actually read your post.. If people are leaving.. it's a unbalanced fight. Funny thing is .. i've been killed in the air while jumping down in ganaks.. i was alive when i jumped.. i was dead when i hit the ground. If a group is getting steamrolled, people should be able to leave.. and have others come in that can give the team an actual challenge. ** gear check ftw. Let me translate what i read.. Gee sony.. we just came up against this group that we can steamroll and farm tokens.. don't let them get away.. i will get less tokens. Then you need to read it again. People are looking for the easy kills, just like any form of pvp in this game. If they can't steamroll the other team, they leave and rejoin until they get a match they can, so they can get more tokens. See, it goes both ways. __________________

08-21-2012, 02:45 PM	#6
Wanic Server: Runnyeye Guild: Slayer of dreams Rank: Second Seat Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 64	I first heard about it when i zoned onto a white team, and found out the command to reque, the unlucky few that get this (bug? or working as intended) the command should work, but is there no way to disable the command for the players who are on a team? Solves the problem people are having with those that leave mid match. __________________

08-21-2012, 02:53 PM	#7
Shredderr Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 182	I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo. __________________ Revrand 92 monk Nagafen Knowall 92 mystic Nagafen Shredderr 92 wizard Nagafen

08-21-2012, 02:58 PM	#8
Rageincarnate Server: Unrest Guild: Vindication Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 396	Wanic@Runnyeye wrote: I first heard about it when i zoned onto a white team, and found out the command to reque, the unlucky few that get this (bug? or working as intended) the command should work, but is there no way to disable the command for the players who are on a team? Solves the problem people are having with those that leave mid match. no.. it doesn't cause you can just hit the exit button and get the 5 minute buff.

08-20-2012, 01:53 PM	#1
Deathsound Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	Need to fix the /battleground add command. players leave mach but dont leave group. Players are using it to leave matches they are losing and the group cant get replacments.

08-21-2012, 11:49 AM	#3
Rageincarnate Server: Unrest Guild: Vindication Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 396	NO! I was sooooo happy when someone told me about it. I'm sick to death of sitting on the white team watching bg's. That was a way to actually rejoin the que and get a match i can play.

08-21-2012, 12:10 PM	#4
Rageincarnate Server: Unrest Guild: Vindication Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 396	Now that i actually read your post.. If people are leaving.. it's a unbalanced fight. Funny thing is .. i've been killed in the air while jumping down in ganaks.. i was alive when i jumped.. i was dead when i hit the ground. If a group is getting steamrolled, people should be able to leave.. and have others come in that can give the team an actual challenge. ** gear check ftw. Let me translate what i read.. Gee sony.. we just came up against this group that we can steamroll and farm tokens.. don't let them get away.. i will get less tokens.

08-21-2012, 04:18 PM	#9
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Shredderr wrote: I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo. I've been on so many healerless teams that beat teams that had one. Its defeatests that kill the game, and thats what this issue is, people not seeing an easy win moving on till they find one. Sadly, the worst offenders I've seen of this are some of the best dps parsers. If they see a team they may not be able to steamroll, requeue till they get one they know they can. If team = red or team = blue then battleground add no worky. __________________

08-21-2012, 05:18 PM	#10
Rageincarnate Server: Unrest Guild: Vindication Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 396	Atan@Unrest wrote: Shredderr wrote: I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo. I've been on so many healerless teams that beat teams that had one. Its defeatests that kill the game, and thats what this issue is, people not seeing an easy win moving on till they find one. Sadly, the worst offenders I've seen of this are some of the best dps parsers. If they see a team they may not be able to steamroll, requeue till they get one they know they can. If team = red or team = blue then battleground add no worky. Bah. I'm merely refering to the design itself. Maybe i'm in the minority. I want a good fight when i bg. When i'm sick of fighting. I quit playing.. I refuse to "grind" tokens. If it takes me a year.. so what. I'll think back and remember dang that was a good match.. or those guys were fun.. not ugh.. that grind sucked. If i die in .2 seconds its not a challenge its stupid.. If i can't kill anyone and just beat on shammy wards for 400/700/1250 points.. It's also stupid. (IMO)

08-22-2012, 12:50 AM	#11
Vlahkmaak Server: Venekor Guild: Opus Dei Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,213	People are leaving matches early to exploit a bug to farm tokens. Pay attention and watch the same several people do it repeatedly. More people have learned about it. Look at the amount of gear they had after the second week of the new content going live. Its easily reproducible and should have been fixed by now to prevent its abuse. __________________ Obin 92 Iksar Necro Opus Dei Nagafen Vlahkmaak 92 Troll Guardian Nagafen Dwyrm 92 Dwarf Paladin Nagafen Shoofaug 92 Iksar bruiser Nagafen Vlah 92 Troll Inqy Nagafen Vlahk 50 SK Nagafen Glavlahnus 92 Woodelf Ranger, betrayed and back again Cructik 92 TROLL BL Nagafen

08-22-2012, 03:49 PM	#12
Cynicisim Server: Nagafen Guild: Tyranny Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 116	Vlahkmaak@Nagafen wrote: People are leaving matches early to exploit a bug to farm tokens. Pay attention and watch the same several people do it repeatedly. More people have learned about it. Look at the amount of gear they had after the second week of the new content going live. Its easily reproducible and should have been fixed by now to prevent its abuse. Agree. I have seen two ways to farm the tokens. As more find the exploit the BGs will be even more rediclous then they are at the moment. if they get tokens or not I do not know as I have never left a bg except by way of LD> Those that leave you can justify it anyway you wish but you cannot always ask for a random group and get a perfect set up. Bone up and play or play a different game.

08-26-2012, 08:03 AM	#13
gourdon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 632	Atan@Unrest wrote: Shredderr wrote: I leave gears when i see there is no healer thus giving the team a chance to maybe get one and stand a chance at winning .... even though u need at least 2 imo. I've been on so many healerless teams that beat teams that had one. Its defeatests that kill the game, and thats what this issue is, people not seeing an easy win moving on till they find one. Sadly, the worst offenders I've seen of this are some of the best dps parsers. If they see a team they may not be able to steamroll, requeue till they get one they know they can. If team = red or team = blue then battleground add no worky. The killer is that the people who give up and don't leave make it impossible for the people trying to overcome the setback. Sometimes, just knocking out the right vulnerable player changes their whole team buff dynamic and they fall apart. The problem is many don't want to try different ways to get it done. __________________

08-27-2012, 07:04 AM	#14
Delethen Server: Mistmoore Guild: Arch of Chaos Rank: Muad'Dib Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 215	The problem is I guess that it's hard to remove that battleground add command until they fix the matchmaker, or at the very least get rid of the white team bug. If they did get round to fixing the matchmaker however it would probably make the dungeon finder viable too, seeing as that just reused the same garbage code. It is pretty tiresome watching an ever increasing number of people abuse that battleground add command though.