Lay on Hands fully healing raid mobs

Cometar · 08-06-2012, 10:53 PM

Hiya. Tonight in HM Vallon's our Paladin got charmed at the end of the Maalus part of the Lichlord Skulldugger fight. Our charmed pally immediately healed Maalus for 366 and a half MILLION health. So it seems like the percentage based heals of fighters are working on mobs when they're chamed.

Please fix. Thanks!

Izeil · 08-07-2012, 01:09 AM

Yeah I found this out myself earlier when I was doing PR on my paladin. Not anywhere near as bad as that but still highly aggrivating and in the case of that HM mob, very unbalanced.

Gaarysal · 08-07-2012, 03:36 AM

Lifetaps have a similar issue on reflecting mobs, seen here

SisterTheresa · 08-07-2012, 02:10 PM

Holy cow that's a lot of healing. And many said paladin heals were useless ... /cough

Yimway · 08-07-2012, 02:10 PM

Next time mez the person charmed.

Cometar · 08-07-2012, 06:13 PM

We eventually just sat our Pally. He was telling us which spells he was going for when charmed and it looked like the AI thought of him as a healer because he kept healing and curing the crap out of that mob. We tried keeping one of our chanters on him stunning/mezzing at first, but all it took was a couple seconds for him to get one of his big heals off which he said were ranging from 30 something to 90 something percent. That's still a lot to heal any raid mob. lol

On the plus side, he topped the heal parse that fight! by healing 876 THOUSAND HPS.

LordPazuzu · 08-08-2012, 07:30 PM

That sounds less like a bug and more like the game AI playing it smart.... for a change.

Ragnaphore · 08-08-2012, 07:39 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Next time mez the person charmed.

QFE. (for many reasons that have nothing to do with buged fighter's heals)

Edit : Anyway it's a bug, player's % based heal should be caped on mobs (something like caster's HP x 5 or maybe 10 would be fine - and more or less scales with players power)

Cometar · 08-15-2012, 03:15 PM

Hoping that a Dev will get the opportunity to look at Fighter heals and how they effect mobs during a charm. It happened to us again, but our Pally was quick to warn us so our chanters could lock him down. It would still be nice not to have to worry about a mez resist meaning a raid mob will go from 7% to above 90%, though (as that has happened to us). Expecially taking into account everything you already have to stay on top of in Vallon's HM raiding.

Thanks!

Saphirewind · 08-21-2012, 03:36 AM

Would be nice to see a dev response on this, so adding my expirence with this from a raid last night.

We 1.5 grouped Sargon the Destructor last night and had the paladin OT to grab the adds as they came in. about 1/3 of the way into the fight, the paladin got charmed and used Holy Aid on the main named for 171,960,288 hp. That is just wrong and something needs to be done about it. Honestly, 1-5% of that would be reasonable IMO.

08-06-2012, 10:53 PM	#1
Cometar Server: Mistmoore Guild: New Outriders Rank: NOR Members & NOR Visitors Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 107	Hiya. Tonight in HM Vallon's our Paladin got charmed at the end of the Maalus part of the Lichlord Skulldugger fight. Our charmed pally immediately healed Maalus for 366 and a half MILLION health. So it seems like the percentage based heals of fighters are working on mobs when they're chamed. Please fix. Thanks! __________________

08-07-2012, 01:09 AM	#2
Izeil Lord Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 26	Yeah I found this out myself earlier when I was doing PR on my paladin. Not anywhere near as bad as that but still highly aggrivating and in the case of that HM mob, very unbalanced. __________________ Reverentia 92/320 Dirge Indoctrination 92/320 Inquisitor Vorinclex 92/320 Mystic All 90 Crafters PoP and Prayer Shawl capable

08-07-2012, 02:10 PM	#4
SisterTheresa The Vigilant Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,250	Holy cow that's a lot of healing. And many said paladin heals were useless ... /cough __________________

08-07-2012, 02:10 PM	#5
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Next time mez the person charmed. __________________

08-07-2012, 06:13 PM	#6
Cometar Server: Mistmoore Guild: New Outriders Rank: NOR Members & NOR Visitors Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 107	We eventually just sat our Pally. He was telling us which spells he was going for when charmed and it looked like the AI thought of him as a healer because he kept healing and curing the crap out of that mob. We tried keeping one of our chanters on him stunning/mezzing at first, but all it took was a couple seconds for him to get one of his big heals off which he said were ranging from 30 something to 90 something percent. That's still a lot to heal any raid mob. lol On the plus side, he topped the heal parse that fight! by healing 876 THOUSAND HPS. __________________

08-07-2012, 03:36 AM	#3
Gaarysal Server: Permafrost Guild: Fist of the Empire Rank: Ass Kicking Expert Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 166	Lifetaps have a similar issue on reflecting mobs, seen here

08-08-2012, 07:30 PM	#7
LordPazuzu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,157	That sounds less like a bug and more like the game AI playing it smart.... for a change.

08-08-2012, 07:39 PM	#8
Ragnaphore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 715	Atan@Unrest wrote: Next time mez the person charmed. QFE. (for many reasons that have nothing to do with buged fighter's heals) Edit : Anyway it's a bug, player's % based heal should be caped on mobs (something like caster's HP x 5 or maybe 10 would be fine - and more or less scales with players power)

08-15-2012, 03:15 PM	#9
Cometar Server: Mistmoore Guild: New Outriders Rank: NOR Members & NOR Visitors Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 107	Hoping that a Dev will get the opportunity to look at Fighter heals and how they effect mobs during a charm. It happened to us again, but our Pally was quick to warn us so our chanters could lock him down. It would still be nice not to have to worry about a mez resist meaning a raid mob will go from 7% to above 90%, though (as that has happened to us). Expecially taking into account everything you already have to stay on top of in Vallon's HM raiding. Thanks! __________________

08-21-2012, 03:36 AM	#10
Saphirewind Server: Permafrost Guild: Cataclysm Rank: Applicant Yeti Hoars Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 44	Would be nice to see a dev response on this, so adding my expirence with this from a raid last night. We 1.5 grouped Sargon the Destructor last night and had the paladin OT to grab the adds as they came in. about 1/3 of the way into the fight, the paladin got charmed and used Holy Aid on the main named for 171,960,288 hp. That is just wrong and something needs to be done about it. Honestly, 1-5% of that would be reasonable IMO. __________________ Motto of the monk: live fast, love hard, and leave a beautiful corpse.