SOEmote - Live facial expressions

gamecock0118 · 06-01-2012, 12:39 PM

I guess this is the press leak:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/0...e-to-everquest/

Edit:

Here is more: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/01/s...our-eq2-avatar/

Onorem · 06-01-2012, 12:57 PM

Yawn.

Divagator · 06-01-2012, 01:17 PM

I don't think this is "The Big News" they have for E3... right?

Can someone confirm this are?

Talathion · 06-01-2012, 01:18 PM

This is one of the best features i've ever seen added to any game, it will greatly enhance my gameplay and roleplay experience, and even group experience.

I seriously can't wait for everyone to hear the voice and face of Talathion!

Talathion · 06-01-2012, 01:19 PM

Blah, this feature will be amazing.

Raiding will be so much easier.

ttobey · 06-01-2012, 01:21 PM

Yeah, I can't wait for that one either.

Gravy · 06-01-2012, 01:21 PM

I have to say that aside from the conversion to F2P, I am very unhappy with the direction of the game under SJ.

Dungeon Maker and Finder are busts and need serious work. Re-itemization is still borked. New content is coming too slowly.

I think that this new 'feature' is actually something being worked on for EQNext and its being beta tested in EQ2. I'm afraid that this model, using EQ2 to test stuff for EQNext, will be the norm.

Talathion · 06-01-2012, 01:23 PM

If you guys want to fix item mechanics/all that so badly, why not apply for the job?

Yimway · 06-01-2012, 01:25 PM

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:

If you guys want to fix item mechanics/all that so badly, why not apply for the job?

There is no posting for this job, I checked.

Talathion · 06-01-2012, 01:25 PM

I really want people to see the voice and hear the face of Talathion...

SOE Emote will let me do that, don't ruin other players fun!

Yimway · 06-01-2012, 01:26 PM

I don't presonally know any one in game that will use this.

In fact, anyone modulating a voice in my raid will be removed. That would just be incredibly annoying for the other 23 people.

Cyliena · 06-01-2012, 01:26 PM

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:

*Please do not quote forum violations*

If I had SOEmote on right now, my character would be falling over laughing. Thanks for that.

Vinyard · 06-01-2012, 01:30 PM

Okay, now I DO have a serious question about this feature.

When you mod a voice, will that only be heard in voice chat? OR will it be in the game world, like a NPC voice? Because you want to bring the roleplay, back into roleplay games, and roleplayers don't hang out in VC...it's all done in emotes, and typing.

Yimway · 06-01-2012, 01:34 PM

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Okay, now I DO have a serious question about this feature.
When you mod a voice, will that only be heard in voice chat? OR will it be in the game world, like a NPC voice? Because you want to bring the roleplay, back into roleplay games, and roleplayers don't hang out in VC...it's all done in emotes, and typing.

It will be in voice chat. I'm 99.99% sure of this as these types of modulators are commonly available. To revamp the wave output of the client canned emotes would actually be more complicated to achieve.

Gaarysal · 06-01-2012, 01:40 PM

Does anyone even have a webcam on their desktop? Seriously, I'd imagine not many people play the game on a laptop and if they do, their graphics settings are probably too low to even see facial expressions. Prove me wrong, does anyone have a webcam attached to their primary eq2 computer?

Coffee_Hound · 06-01-2012, 01:43 PM

While I doubt I'll use this new feature, I think it's pretty cool. It's important for SoE to develop new features like this that, if I'm not mistaken, is unique among MMORPGs.

Piestro · 06-01-2012, 01:44 PM

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Okay, now I DO have a serious question about this feature.
When you mod a voice, will that only be heard in voice chat? OR will it be in the game world, like a NPC voice? Because you want to bring the roleplay, back into roleplay games, and roleplayers don't hang out in VC...it's all done in emotes, and typing.

Only in VC. This gives role players more of an option to use VC.

Wingrider01 · 06-01-2012, 01:50 PM

Gaarysal@Permafrost wrote:

Does anyone even have a webcam on their desktop? Seriously, I'd imagine not many people play the game on a laptop and if they do, their graphics settings are probably too low to even see facial expressions. Prove me wrong, does anyone have a webcam attached to their primary eq2 computer?

Since the desktop I use for gaming is also the one I hold business meetings on it through WebEx, Paetec and Cisco Presence / jabber have a high resolution one on it - a Microsoft Lifecam studio, does 1080p

Leawyn · 06-01-2012, 02:01 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Maewyn@Unrest_old wrote:
*Please do not quote forum violations*
I'm not sure why we're taking so long to acknowledge they just don't give a darn about having a good raiding game anymore. They've clearly decided to take a new path with EQ2, and its probably time for us end-game people to just move on.

Summer is coming...

Koleg · 06-01-2012, 02:02 PM

Say it ain't so!!

Koleg · 06-01-2012, 02:10 PM

OMG.... I realize some people think Frogloks are da'Bomb, which they are not, but WHY on earth would anyone ever use a frog face to show facial expressions from the get-go. Really!?! No, REALLT!?!? All of the gender unique 'human' models and they go and show a Frog-face regardless of how fitting it might be as an avatar.

Oh and btw, My Webcam is right next to my Facebook account .... nonexistant.

Jrral · 06-01-2012, 02:11 PM

Coffee_Hound wrote:

While I doubt I'll use this new feature, I think it's pretty cool. It's important for SoE to develop new features like this that, if I'm not mistaken, is unique among MMORPGs.

Hardly. Look up MorphVox Pro, it's been out for years. A basic version was included in the drivers for at least one Logitech gaming headset a year and change ago, and it works with any voice software (it creates a new MVP output audio device, you point MVP at your regular mic input, point your game or voice software at the MVP output device and off you go).

I never liked it because of the lag the audio processing introduces. And you can't really change your voice that much, the software can change pitch and timbre but it can't affect intonation and inflection and cadence so it's fairly obvious if someone's trying to alter their normal voice too much. And the non-human voices are just... they make me quick to hit the Mute button, and I can put up with just about anything.

Khayos · 06-01-2012, 02:11 PM

Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy.

Now what I dont understand is that this is a pretty huge announcement from a technology stand point. I dont see what they could possibly be announcing at E3 on the 5th now. I mean this is gonna be all over the web at every news site for games in less than 48 hours. So then what will be so big at E3? A rehash of this info will not be E3 worthy.

I am afraid to think bigger because I will most likely be disappointed.

Wanic · 06-01-2012, 02:15 PM

Will this actually be supported when it inevitably breaks?

Yimway · 06-01-2012, 02:15 PM

Khayos wrote:

Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy.

Can you point to a roleplayer that requested this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'd bet 90% of roleplayers are not intersted in the voice modulations.

I agree they can't cater to only one group, but this doesn't seem like a big win and timed pretty horribly.

I do understand though, that the modulation isn't something SOE developed, its something the voice chat company they use offers. At most SoE just helped setup what filters goes to each race/gender.

The facial expresions I'd also wager is a licensed technology.

Koleg · 06-01-2012, 02:27 PM

Emote-RPer looking for 1 more to duo zones, must modulate High-Elf Female whether you are one or not!!! PST!! Hurry!!

Khayos · 06-01-2012, 02:30 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Khayos wrote:
Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy.
Can you point to a roleplayer that requested this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'd bet 90% of roleplayers are not intersted in the voice modulations.
I agree they can't cater to only one group, but this doesn't seem like a big win and timed pretty horribly.
I do understand though, that the modulation isn't something SOE developed, its something the voice chat company they use offers. At most SoE just helped setup what filters goes to each race/gender.
The facial expresions I'd also wager is a licensed technology.

90% of stuff added to any MMO EQ and EQ2 included is not requested, it is stuff the developers make for the game cuz THEY think its cool. Roleplayers may not have requested it, but they will for sure benefit from it and feel like they arent being ignored. And everyone seems to be focusing on the voice thing. That isnt new no, but transmitting facial expressions to make your own emotes and make the characters seem more alive, is groundbreaking never been done before in any mmo. The closest was in rainbow 6 vegas 2 where you could take a picture of your face and overlay it on your SWAT dude. but that was still a photo Not real time asymetrical movement. This is bigger than any of you realize. It is a new mmo feature, world first and it expands interactivity within the game.

Yimway · 06-01-2012, 02:34 PM

Khayos wrote:

This is bigger than any of you realize. It is a new mmo feature, world first and it expands interactivity within the game.

Nah, I get that, but I've seen this technology used elsewhere, just first time in an MMO.

However, I just can't get excited about features that enhance the time spent in game not actually playing the game. Maybe I could get excited about that if there wasn't so many issues around gameplay and available content to play.

A car can have an awesome paint job, with the most nifty entertainment system in the world, but if the engine doesn't work and it can't actually go anywhere, the features are rather moot.

Onorem · 06-01-2012, 02:34 PM

Khayos wrote:

Atan@Unrest wrote:
Khayos wrote:
Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy.
Can you point to a roleplayer that requested this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'd bet 90% of roleplayers are not intersted in the voice modulations.
I agree they can't cater to only one group, but this doesn't seem like a big win and timed pretty horribly.
I do understand though, that the modulation isn't something SOE developed, its something the voice chat company they use offers. At most SoE just helped setup what filters goes to each race/gender.
The facial expresions I'd also wager is a licensed technology.
90% of stuff added to any MMO EQ and EQ2 included is not requested, it is stuff the developers make for the game cuz THEY think its cool. Roleplayers may not have requested it, but they will for sure benefit from it and feel like they arent being ignored. And everyone seems to be focusing on the voice thing. That isnt new no, but transmitting facial expressions to make your own emotes and make the characters seem more alive, is groundbreaking never been done before in any mmo. The closest was in rainbow 6 vegas 2 where you could take a picture of your face and overlay it on your SWAT dude. but that was still a photo Not real time asymetrical movement. This is bigger than any of you realize. It is a new mmo feature, world first and it expands interactivity within the game.

Good for SoE. Glad that they got some new MMO 'feature' before someone else. I have no problem with roleplayers. I hope they do enjoy this. I honestly could not care less about it. I can't remember the last time I looked at another characters face. This won't make me start looking. It's not bigger than I realize. I just don't care. I'm not playing this game so SOE can be groundbreaking with worthless fluff.

Coffee_Hound · 06-01-2012, 02:35 PM

Jrral@Unrest wrote:

Coffee_Hound wrote:
While I doubt I'll use this new feature, I think it's pretty cool. It's important for SoE to develop new features like this that, if I'm not mistaken, is unique among MMORPGs.
Hardly. Look up MorphVox Pro, it's been out for years. A basic version was included in the drivers for at least one Logitech gaming headset a year and change ago, and it works with any voice software (it creates a new MVP output audio device, you point MVP at your regular mic input, point your game or voice software at the MVP output device and off you go).
I never liked it because of the lag the audio processing introduces. And you can't really change your voice that much, the software can change pitch and timbre but it can't affect intonation and inflection and cadence so it's fairly obvious if someone's trying to alter their normal voice too much. And the non-human voices are just... they make me quick to hit the Mute button, and I can put up with just about anything.

I meant with the facial tracking/matching too. I've never seen anything like that in a MMORPG.

Personally, I think the voice sounds annoying too...

06-01-2012, 12:57 PM	#2
Onorem Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,155	Yawn. __________________ _________________________________ "EQ2 is not a "free to play" game, so microtransactions are unlikely to ever have the "front seat" role that they have in F2P games" - SmokeJumper - 4/20/2010

06-01-2012, 01:21 PM	#6
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Yeah, I can't wait for that one either. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

06-01-2012, 01:25 PM	#9
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: If you guys want to fix item mechanics/all that so badly, why not apply for the job? There is no posting for this job, I checked. __________________

06-01-2012, 01:26 PM	#11
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	I don't presonally know any one in game that will use this. In fact, anyone modulating a voice in my raid will be removed. That would just be incredibly annoying for the other 23 people. __________________

06-01-2012, 01:26 PM	#12
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Please do not quote forum violations If I had SOEmote on right now, my character would be falling over laughing. Thanks for that.

06-01-2012, 12:39 PM	#1
gamecock0118 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 44	I guess this is the press leak: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/0...e-to-everquest/ Edit: Here is more: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/01/s...our-eq2-avatar/

06-01-2012, 01:17 PM	#3
Divagator Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	I don't think this is "The Big News" they have for E3... right? Can someone confirm this are?

06-01-2012, 01:18 PM	#4
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	This is one of the best features i've ever seen added to any game, it will greatly enhance my gameplay and roleplay experience, and even group experience. I seriously can't wait for everyone to hear the voice and face of Talathion!

06-01-2012, 01:19 PM	#5
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Blah, this feature will be amazing. Raiding will be so much easier.

06-01-2012, 01:21 PM	#7
Gravy Lord Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 382	I have to say that aside from the conversion to F2P, I am very unhappy with the direction of the game under SJ. Dungeon Maker and Finder are busts and need serious work. Re-itemization is still borked. New content is coming too slowly. I think that this new 'feature' is actually something being worked on for EQNext and its being beta tested in EQ2. I'm afraid that this model, using EQ2 to test stuff for EQNext, will be the norm.

06-01-2012, 01:23 PM	#8
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	If you guys want to fix item mechanics/all that so badly, why not apply for the job?

06-01-2012, 01:30 PM	#13
Vinyard Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 690	Okay, now I DO have a serious question about this feature. When you mod a voice, will that only be heard in voice chat? OR will it be in the game world, like a NPC voice? Because you want to bring the roleplay, back into roleplay games, and roleplayers don't hang out in VC...it's all done in emotes, and typing.

06-01-2012, 01:34 PM	#14
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Okay, now I DO have a serious question about this feature. When you mod a voice, will that only be heard in voice chat? OR will it be in the game world, like a NPC voice? Because you want to bring the roleplay, back into roleplay games, and roleplayers don't hang out in VC...it's all done in emotes, and typing. It will be in voice chat. I'm 99.99% sure of this as these types of modulators are commonly available. To revamp the wave output of the client canned emotes would actually be more complicated to achieve. __________________

06-01-2012, 01:40 PM	#15
Gaarysal Server: Permafrost Guild: Fist of the Empire Rank: Ass Kicking Expert Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 166	Does anyone even have a webcam on their desktop? Seriously, I'd imagine not many people play the game on a laptop and if they do, their graphics settings are probably too low to even see facial expressions. Prove me wrong, does anyone have a webcam attached to their primary eq2 computer?

06-01-2012, 01:43 PM	#16
Coffee_Hound Elder Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 46	While I doubt I'll use this new feature, I think it's pretty cool. It's important for SoE to develop new features like this that, if I'm not mistaken, is unique among MMORPGs.

06-01-2012, 01:44 PM	#17
Piestro Community Relations Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 481	Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Okay, now I DO have a serious question about this feature. When you mod a voice, will that only be heard in voice chat? OR will it be in the game world, like a NPC voice? Because you want to bring the roleplay, back into roleplay games, and roleplayers don't hang out in VC...it's all done in emotes, and typing. Only in VC. This gives role players more of an option to use VC. __________________ -Piestro EverQuest Community Relations Manager

06-01-2012, 01:50 PM	#18
Wingrider01 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,999	Gaarysal@Permafrost wrote: Does anyone even have a webcam on their desktop? Seriously, I'd imagine not many people play the game on a laptop and if they do, their graphics settings are probably too low to even see facial expressions. Prove me wrong, does anyone have a webcam attached to their primary eq2 computer? Since the desktop I use for gaming is also the one I hold business meetings on it through WebEx, Paetec and Cisco Presence / jabber have a high resolution one on it - a Microsoft Lifecam studio, does 1080p __________________ Fixing computer issues, one SOC7 at a time. Yes Jim, the user has experienced the dreaded PICNIC error

06-01-2012, 02:01 PM	#19
Leawyn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,014	Atan@Unrest wrote: Maewyn@Unrest_old wrote: Please do not quote forum violations I'm not sure why we're taking so long to acknowledge they just don't give a darn about having a good raiding game anymore. They've clearly decided to take a new path with EQ2, and its probably time for us end-game people to just move on. Summer is coming... __________________ Maelani \| Maelya \| Maerie \| Maehymn \| Maewyn \| Maekita \| Maelynne

06-01-2012, 02:02 PM	#20
Koleg Server: Unrest_old Lord Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 713	Say it ain't so!!

06-01-2012, 02:10 PM	#21
Koleg Server: Unrest_old Lord Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 713	OMG.... I realize some people think Frogloks are da'Bomb, which they are not, but WHY on earth would anyone ever use a frog face to show facial expressions from the get-go. Really!?! No, REALLT!?!? All of the gender unique 'human' models and they go and show a Frog-face regardless of how fitting it might be as an avatar. Oh and btw, My Webcam is right next to my Facebook account .... nonexistant.

06-01-2012, 02:11 PM	#22
Jrral Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,610	Coffee_Hound wrote: While I doubt I'll use this new feature, I think it's pretty cool. It's important for SoE to develop new features like this that, if I'm not mistaken, is unique among MMORPGs. Hardly. Look up MorphVox Pro, it's been out for years. A basic version was included in the drivers for at least one Logitech gaming headset a year and change ago, and it works with any voice software (it creates a new MVP output audio device, you point MVP at your regular mic input, point your game or voice software at the MVP output device and off you go). I never liked it because of the lag the audio processing introduces. And you can't really change your voice that much, the software can change pitch and timbre but it can't affect intonation and inflection and cadence so it's fairly obvious if someone's trying to alter their normal voice too much. And the non-human voices are just... they make me quick to hit the Mute button, and I can put up with just about anything.

06-01-2012, 02:11 PM	#23
Khayos Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 31	Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy. Now what I dont understand is that this is a pretty huge announcement from a technology stand point. I dont see what they could possibly be announcing at E3 on the 5th now. I mean this is gonna be all over the web at every news site for games in less than 48 hours. So then what will be so big at E3? A rehash of this info will not be E3 worthy. I am afraid to think bigger because I will most likely be disappointed.

06-01-2012, 02:15 PM	#24
Wanic Server: Runnyeye Guild: Slayer of dreams Rank: Second Seat Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 64	Will this actually be supported when it inevitably breaks? __________________

06-01-2012, 02:15 PM	#25
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Khayos wrote: Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy. Can you point to a roleplayer that requested this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'd bet 90% of roleplayers are not intersted in the voice modulations. I agree they can't cater to only one group, but this doesn't seem like a big win and timed pretty horribly. I do understand though, that the modulation isn't something SOE developed, its something the voice chat company they use offers. At most SoE just helped setup what filters goes to each race/gender. The facial expresions I'd also wager is a licensed technology. __________________

06-01-2012, 02:27 PM	#26
Koleg Server: Unrest_old Lord Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 713	Emote-RPer looking for 1 more to duo zones, must modulate High-Elf Female whether you are one or not!!! PST!! Hurry!!

06-01-2012, 02:30 PM	#27
Khayos Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 31	Atan@Unrest wrote: Khayos wrote: Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy. Can you point to a roleplayer that requested this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'd bet 90% of roleplayers are not intersted in the voice modulations. I agree they can't cater to only one group, but this doesn't seem like a big win and timed pretty horribly. I do understand though, that the modulation isn't something SOE developed, its something the voice chat company they use offers. At most SoE just helped setup what filters goes to each race/gender. The facial expresions I'd also wager is a licensed technology. 90% of stuff added to any MMO EQ and EQ2 included is not requested, it is stuff the developers make for the game cuz THEY think its cool. Roleplayers may not have requested it, but they will for sure benefit from it and feel like they arent being ignored. And everyone seems to be focusing on the voice thing. That isnt new no, but transmitting facial expressions to make your own emotes and make the characters seem more alive, is groundbreaking never been done before in any mmo. The closest was in rainbow 6 vegas 2 where you could take a picture of your face and overlay it on your SWAT dude. but that was still a photo Not real time asymetrical movement. This is bigger than any of you realize. It is a new mmo feature, world first and it expands interactivity within the game.

06-01-2012, 02:34 PM	#28
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Khayos wrote: This is bigger than any of you realize. It is a new mmo feature, world first and it expands interactivity within the game. Nah, I get that, but I've seen this technology used elsewhere, just first time in an MMO. However, I just can't get excited about features that enhance the time spent in game not actually playing the game. Maybe I could get excited about that if there wasn't so many issues around gameplay and available content to play. A car can have an awesome paint job, with the most nifty entertainment system in the world, but if the engine doesn't work and it can't actually go anywhere, the features are rather moot. __________________

06-01-2012, 02:34 PM	#29
Onorem Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,155	Khayos wrote: Atan@Unrest wrote: Khayos wrote: Honestly Roleplaying folks have been ignored for a very long time, So even as a raider myself I can see this being a very good feature for them. SOE has to listen to all of our griping and prioritize things. Even if a system has been broken for 6 months, Roleplayers have been ignored for years. Hence I would feel they are higher on the priority list and this will make alot of them happy. Can you point to a roleplayer that requested this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'd bet 90% of roleplayers are not intersted in the voice modulations. I agree they can't cater to only one group, but this doesn't seem like a big win and timed pretty horribly. I do understand though, that the modulation isn't something SOE developed, its something the voice chat company they use offers. At most SoE just helped setup what filters goes to each race/gender. The facial expresions I'd also wager is a licensed technology. 90% of stuff added to any MMO EQ and EQ2 included is not requested, it is stuff the developers make for the game cuz THEY think its cool. Roleplayers may not have requested it, but they will for sure benefit from it and feel like they arent being ignored. And everyone seems to be focusing on the voice thing. That isnt new no, but transmitting facial expressions to make your own emotes and make the characters seem more alive, is groundbreaking never been done before in any mmo. The closest was in rainbow 6 vegas 2 where you could take a picture of your face and overlay it on your SWAT dude. but that was still a photo Not real time asymetrical movement. This is bigger than any of you realize. It is a new mmo feature, world first and it expands interactivity within the game. Good for SoE. Glad that they got some new MMO 'feature' before someone else. I have no problem with roleplayers. I hope they do enjoy this. I honestly could not care less about it. I can't remember the last time I looked at another characters face. This won't make me start looking. It's not bigger than I realize. I just don't care. I'm not playing this game so SOE can be groundbreaking with worthless fluff. __________________ _________________________________ "EQ2 is not a "free to play" game, so microtransactions are unlikely to ever have the "front seat" role that they have in F2P games" - SmokeJumper - 4/20/2010

06-01-2012, 02:35 PM	#30
Coffee_Hound Elder Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 46	Jrral@Unrest wrote: Coffee_Hound wrote: While I doubt I'll use this new feature, I think it's pretty cool. It's important for SoE to develop new features like this that, if I'm not mistaken, is unique among MMORPGs. Hardly. Look up MorphVox Pro, it's been out for years. A basic version was included in the drivers for at least one Logitech gaming headset a year and change ago, and it works with any voice software (it creates a new MVP output audio device, you point MVP at your regular mic input, point your game or voice software at the MVP output device and off you go). I never liked it because of the lag the audio processing introduces. And you can't really change your voice that much, the software can change pitch and timbre but it can't affect intonation and inflection and cadence so it's fairly obvious if someone's trying to alter their normal voice too much. And the non-human voices are just... they make me quick to hit the Mute button, and I can put up with just about anything. I meant with the facial tracking/matching too. I've never seen anything like that in a MMORPG. Personally, I think the voice sounds annoying too...