New Marketplace Items: Chillborn Sword & Blue and Purple Northweave Clothing Crates

Amnerys · 12-28-2010, 09:40 PM

Chillborn Sword

New items this week include the Chillborn Sword and two new Northweave Clothing Crates, in tones of Purple and Blue. Give yourself a cool new look with these new items! And don't miss the Item of the Week; the Tome of Erudin cosmetic book pet.

Dreyco · 12-29-2010, 12:50 AM

I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin. SMILEY

Gaige · 12-29-2010, 01:01 AM

Ya they're not there.

Calthine · 12-29-2010, 03:21 AM

10:21pm SOE time and they're still not there.

Domino · 12-29-2010, 03:14 PM

Apologies for the slight delay due to the holiday period - we're aware they're not up for sale yet and will be correcting that as soon as possible. Will keep you updated! In the mean time, glad you like the looks of them - that is indeed a sweet looking sword, thanks to the artistic talents of Gnobrin, if I recall correctly. I think my swashbuckler alt may be eyeing it too! SMILEY

JoarAddam · 12-29-2010, 03:58 PM

DominoDev wrote:

Apologies for the slight delay due to the holiday period - we're aware they're not up for sale yet and will be correcting that as soon as possible. Will keep you updated! In the mean time, glad you like the looks of them - that is indeed a sweet looking sword, thanks to the artistic talents of Gnobrin, if I recall correctly. I think my swashbuckler alt may be eyeing it too!

the same sword with red light in it in the offhand would be awesome on my swash...

Calabeth · 12-29-2010, 04:09 PM

Wow imagine that even more clothing that looks nice, to further shove the nose of tailors that hoped we might actually ever be able to create something as good as this in game. Ooops I forgot our earning pp doesnt but green in the big machines pockets as well.

/sarcasm off

Tuppen · 12-29-2010, 05:54 PM

All of the casual clothes on the marketplace don't fit on the SOGA halfling male. Otherwise, I would purchase more of them.

There are big gaps between the pants and waist and on the chest and back. The skin graphics don't go far enough down the chest or the back of the neck to meet with the tops of the shirts. You can't see this in the dressing room, but it looks horrible on the in-game characters.

I keep forgetting to bug it in game.

Solarax · 12-29-2010, 06:00 PM

Dreyco wrote:

I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin.

me too.

i /agree with JoarAddam too about a red light version

Domino · 12-29-2010, 06:48 PM

Update: these items are now available for purchase! Apologies for the delay, and thanks for letting us know about it. SMILEY

kcirrot · 12-29-2010, 06:49 PM

Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:

Dreyco wrote:
I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin.
me too.
i /agree with JoarAddam too about a red light version

Can we get a green light version as well. Tree-huggers and all that.

Dreadpatch · 12-29-2010, 09:05 PM

I like pie

KerowynnKaotic · 12-29-2010, 11:43 PM

Any particular reason why we can't right click to examine any of the SC stuff anymore?

Like the clothing crates .. they have 3 different color versions in them but I can't right click the crate to examine and then click on each different piece to pull into the dressing room to see what it would look like.

All I get to view in the dressing room is the defualt set ..

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Be nice if they put in a dagger version of the Chillborn set, too.

Kamimura · 12-29-2010, 11:43 PM

kcirrot wrote:

Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:
Dreyco wrote:
I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin.
me too.
i /agree with JoarAddam too about a red light version
Can we get a green light version as well. Tree-huggers and all that.

It is a nice looking sword, would also love to see a few more colors added.

Shazzie · 12-30-2010, 01:41 AM

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

Any particular reason why we can't right click to examine any of the SC stuff anymore?
Like the clothing crates .. they have 3 different color versions in them but I can't right click the crate to examine and then click on each different piece to pull into the dressing room to see what it would look like.
All I get to view in the dressing room is the defualt set ..
-------
Be nice if they put in a dagger version of the Chillborn set, too.

If you just want to view in the dressing room, select the crate of clothing you want to check out, then on the right-hand side, select 'Description' tab. That tab will list each individual piece in the set, and you can try each one on from there.

MrWolfie · 12-30-2010, 08:28 AM

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

Any particular reason why we can't right click to examine any of the SC stuff anymore?

If it's got "New" or "Hot" written on top of the icon, that's bugging out the UI and you cannot right-click.

It was /bugged it the first day they started putting these tags on items in the Marketplace, which was a few months ago, but you know what a void the /bug reporting system is. Shame on SOE 'cos it seems like quite a quick fix to the script that would make these overlaid tags cease absorbing mouse-clicks. Good job players like Shazzie have figured out a work-around.

Icons without the "Hot" and "New" text should still be right-clickable as before.

Azzad · 01-01-2011, 12:45 PM

I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.

Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?

thephantomposter · 01-01-2011, 01:14 PM

Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?

I really dont have a problem with the Marketplace but it is definately overkill now and I miss the same!

Jaremai · 01-03-2011, 11:43 AM

Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?

Think of the adventures and excitement you can have driving to pick up a SC card. You never know who you'll meet along the way, and you might just pass a newspaper stand and notice that it's 2011.

(yes I know that's a bit snarky, I'm sorry.)

JoarAddam · 01-03-2011, 11:50 AM

Ok I've seen it in game now... The particles are kinda... huge. Very very huge.

Mabelode · 01-03-2011, 01:21 PM

JoarAddam wrote:

Ok I've seen it in game now... The particles are kinda... huge. Very very huge.

I noticed that too. I was considering this for a toon of mine, until the particles turned me away. Then again, I'm happier not spending RL money on it. I'll stick too character slots, and other similar services.

kcirrot · 01-03-2011, 04:37 PM

Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?

I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.

Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.

TwistedFaith · 01-03-2011, 05:22 PM

kcirrot wrote:

Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:
I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?
I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.
Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.

Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card.

In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game.

Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................

CorpseGoddess · 01-03-2011, 06:27 PM

TwistedFaith wrote:

kcirrot wrote:
Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:
I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?
I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.
Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.
Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card.
In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game.
Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................

Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in *before* SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much.

Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to *my* personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---*that* would annoy me.

JoarAddam · 01-03-2011, 06:59 PM

Streppoch@Guk wrote:

TwistedFaith wrote:
kcirrot wrote:
Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:
I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?
I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.
Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.
Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card.
In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game.
Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................
Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in *before* SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much.
Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to *my* personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---*that* would annoy me.

Just because you can't get these particular models in game doesn't mean that there are no cool items to be had in game. There are tons of truly awesome looking weapons and armor that are available in game, you're just not looking or don't care to. Epics, for instance. Class helms, for another. gear that has the appearance of relic that was recently added (relic looked pretty nice) to the KoS questlines, the faction gear made in RoK, Shard gear, Rime gear. There are 11ty billion ways to get some nice looking gear. maybe not THESE models, but for a cool weapon that's not your epic, get yourself a Gotrot the Flayer, Tarinax's Spine, The axe from Hollow Hedge, The legendary bows from EoF and TSO... just to name a few Look at all the freaking awesome shields we have in this game. The BG shield, The Qeynos Guard, Wall of Eyes.... again, just to name a few.

Quit being so darned lazy and actually look around for yourself and appreciate the art that's available to you, instead of getting on a "there's nothing cool in the game because SC is SO EVIL" bandwagon that isn't actually true.

kcirrot · 01-03-2011, 07:14 PM

TwistedFaith wrote:

kcirrot wrote:
Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:
I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?
I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.
Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.
Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card.
In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game.
Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................

I disagree. Appearance can be something you work for, but it need not be. Nor should it need to be an interminable grind. Some level of grind is necessary for it to be a MMORPG, but you shouldn't have to look ugly doing it.

I didn't mind grinding out the stupid harvests and sitting in Chelsith for hours for my epic, because that's an important weapon statwise there was other stuff I could use for appearance. But hiding nice appearances behind raids and grinds is not fun to me. It's not necessary either, witness the super hero MMOs.

CorpseGoddess · 01-03-2011, 08:27 PM

JoarAddam wrote:
Streppoch@Guk wrote:
Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in *before* SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much.
Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to *my* personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---*that* would annoy me.
Just because you can't get these particular models in game doesn't mean that there are no cool items to be had in game. There are tons of truly awesome looking weapons and armor that are available in game, you're just not looking or don't care to. Epics, for instance. Class helms, for another. gear that has the appearance of relic that was recently added (relic looked pretty nice) to the KoS questlines, the faction gear made in RoK, Shard gear, Rime gear. There are 11ty billion ways to get some nice looking gear. maybe not THESE models, but for a cool weapon that's not your epic, get yourself a Gotrot the Flayer, Tarinax's Spine, The axe from Hollow Hedge, The legendary bows from EoF and TSO... just to name a few Look at all the freaking awesome shields we have in this game. The BG shield, The Qeynos Guard, Wall of Eyes.... again, just to name a few.
Quit being so darned lazy and actually look around for yourself and appreciate the art that's available to you, instead of getting on a "there's nothing cool in the game because SC is SO EVIL" bandwagon that isn't actually true.

Okay there, cowboy. Take a deep breath and read my WHOLE statement if you would, please. First off, I like the SC stuff. I am now a new vampire with the cool wings. So right off the bat, you're yelling at the choir.

Secondly, you'll notice I said "for most of EQ2's existence". You are absolutely correct in your statement about epics and whatnot, but these are fairly recent additions compared to the whole EQ timeline. And a lot of them started when we were already getting cool-looking stuff from LoN, so it kind of backs up my argument. Yes, there are absolutely some really cool items in-game. However, these are few and far-between, while most of the stuff uses the same models and whatnot. And---I'll say it again---if SOE had introduced more quested/obtained/whathaveyou items in game (many more than existed) BEFORE LoN and SC, I don't think people (NOT ME, OTHER PLAYERS WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY ANTI-SC) would be as upset by their purchasable existence.

And for your information, in addition to loving shiny stuff I'm also a questaholic, so I have many, many of those things you mentioned (the ones I can use with my class, anyway). So I'm with you there as well. At nearly 2700+ quests, I daresay "lazy" isn't one of the adjectives you can use for me. There are many you can, but that isn't one of them.

TwistedFaith · 01-03-2011, 08:28 PM

kcirrot wrote:

TwistedFaith wrote:
kcirrot wrote:
Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:
I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?
I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.
Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.
Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card.
In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game.
Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................
I disagree. Appearance can be something you work for, but it need not be. Nor should it need to be an interminable grind. Some level of grind is necessary for it to be a MMORPG, but you shouldn't have to look ugly doing it.
I didn't mind grinding out the stupid harvests and sitting in Chelsith for hours for my epic, because that's an important weapon statwise there was other stuff I could use for appearance. But hiding nice appearances behind raids and grinds is not fun to me. It's not necessary either, witness the super hero MMOs.

Well I think it's a crying shame that what you accomplish in the game isn't shown anymore in your appearance. There should be cool items to quest for etc but the sad truth is there aren't. Take that fancy new sword on the marketplace, that should be rewarded to people for doing quests/killing mobs not just for those who are willing to whip out the credit card.

Where's the fun aspect of working on your character, you may as well be playing some sort of online barbie shopping game where you dress up your virtual barbie/ken doll.

Take for example the tier 3 raid armor, EVERY SCOUTS T3 ARMOR LOOKS THE SAME! You work together as a team, strive to do something and then are rewarded with what only can be called a incredibly bland armor set. Then you look at the other scouts and they also have the same identical looking set.

So you have these players looking like rejects in their awful armor who have killed some of the most difficult mobs in the game, worked on their characters then you have someone who looks a million times better because they whipped out their credit card and bought a fancy armor set.

Look at the heritage armor available on marketplace, it's disgusting that players are not able to quest to get their specific racial armor.

JoarAddam · 01-03-2011, 08:50 PM

Streppoch@Guk wrote:

JoarAddam wrote:
Streppoch@Guk wrote:
Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in *before* SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much.
Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to *my* personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---*that* would annoy me.
Just because you can't get these particular models in game doesn't mean that there are no cool items to be had in game. There are tons of truly awesome looking weapons and armor that are available in game, you're just not looking or don't care to. Epics, for instance. Class helms, for another. gear that has the appearance of relic that was recently added (relic looked pretty nice) to the KoS questlines, the faction gear made in RoK, Shard gear, Rime gear. There are 11ty billion ways to get some nice looking gear. maybe not THESE models, but for a cool weapon that's not your epic, get yourself a Gotrot the Flayer, Tarinax's Spine, The axe from Hollow Hedge, The legendary bows from EoF and TSO... just to name a few Look at all the freaking awesome shields we have in this game. The BG shield, The Qeynos Guard, Wall of Eyes.... again, just to name a few.
Quit being so darned lazy and actually look around for yourself and appreciate the art that's available to you, instead of getting on a "there's nothing cool in the game because SC is SO EVIL" bandwagon that isn't actually true.
Okay there, cowboy. Take a deep breath and read my WHOLE statement if you would, please. First off, I like the SC stuff. I am now a new vampire with the cool wings. So right off the bat, you're yelling at the choir.
Secondly, you'll notice I said "for most of EQ2's existence". You are absolutely correct in your statement about epics and whatnot, but these are fairly recent additions compared to the whole EQ timeline. And a lot of them started when we were already getting cool-looking stuff from LoN, so it kind of backs up my argument. Yes, there are absolutely some really cool items in-game. However, these are few and far-between, while most of the stuff uses the same models and whatnot. And---I'll say it again---if SOE had introduced more quested/obtained/whathaveyou items in game (many more than existed) BEFORE LoN and SC, I don't think people (NOT ME, OTHER PLAYERS WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY ANTI-SC) would be as upset by their purchasable existence.
And for your information, in addition to loving shiny stuff I'm also a questaholic, so I have many, many of those things you mentioned (the ones I can use with my class, anyway). So I'm with you there as well. At nearly 2700+ quests, I daresay "lazy" isn't one of the adjectives you can use for me. There are many you can, but that isn't one of them.

We had a ton of new and interesting armors and weapons added with SF, drop by any mark vendor to see a small portion of them. Some of them are recycled models, but a LOT of them are not. Again, just because you can't get this exact model, doesn't mean there is no cool stuff added to the game outside SC. I mentioned epics, yes, which was 4 expansions in, but I also mentioned relic gear and Gortrot the Flayer and Tarinax's spine, which were 2 expansions in.There were new mace and sword models in DoF, one expansion in, new sword models and improved textures during the third expansion...

we're at expansion 6 now, and there is cool stuff in every expansion. The treasured stuff is all recycled, and so is the MC stuff, as far as appearance goes, but that's as should be. Treasured appearance for treasured play...

kcirrot · 01-04-2011, 01:52 AM

TwistedFaith wrote:

kcirrot wrote:
TwistedFaith wrote:
kcirrot wrote:
Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote:
I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself.
Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?
I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item.
Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.
Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card.
In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game.
Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................
I disagree. Appearance can be something you work for, but it need not be. Nor should it need to be an interminable grind. Some level of grind is necessary for it to be a MMORPG, but you shouldn't have to look ugly doing it.
I didn't mind grinding out the stupid harvests and sitting in Chelsith for hours for my epic, because that's an important weapon statwise there was other stuff I could use for appearance. But hiding nice appearances behind raids and grinds is not fun to me. It's not necessary either, witness the super hero MMOs.
Well I think it's a crying shame that what you accomplish in the game isn't shown anymore in your appearance. There should be cool items to quest for etc but the sad truth is there aren't. Take that fancy new sword on the marketplace, that should be rewarded to people for doing quests/killing mobs not just for those who are willing to whip out the credit card.
Where's the fun aspect of working on your character, you may as well be playing some sort of online barbie shopping game where you dress up your virtual barbie/ken doll.
Take for example the tier 3 raid armor, EVERY SCOUTS T3 ARMOR LOOKS THE SAME! You work together as a team, strive to do something and then are rewarded with what only can be called a incredibly bland armor set. Then you look at the other scouts and they also have the same identical looking set.
So you have these players looking like rejects in their awful armor who have killed some of the most difficult mobs in the game, worked on their characters then you have someone who looks a million times better because they whipped out their credit card and bought a fancy armor set.
Look at the heritage armor available on marketplace, it's disgusting that players are not able to quest to get their specific racial armor.

Again, I disagree. I work on my characters because they get more powerful and can do different things. I don't like having my appearance be bound up in a quest or gear grind. My two 90s are substantially more powerful than they were when SF was released. After raiding, questing, grouping in instances they have much more wealth and really nice gear that has allowed them to solo mobs that would have crushed them back in February. However, during that whole time, I've enjoyed how they've looked because of some Marketplace gear I bought a while ago.

I don't think appearance is something that one should have to do much 'work' for. I love it that everyone can look cool. Raiders get plenty rewarded. I'm not downing hardmode mobs, but I am raiding and I do get rewarded for it just fine. I do quest and get rewarded for it.

12-29-2010, 12:50 AM	#2
Dreyco Archive of Ik Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,485	I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin. __________________ Grand Historian of The Archive of Ik

12-29-2010, 01:01 AM	#3
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Ya they're not there. __________________

12-29-2010, 03:21 AM	#4
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	10:21pm SOE time and they're still not there. __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

12-29-2010, 03:58 PM	#6
JoarAddam Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,239	DominoDev wrote: Apologies for the slight delay due to the holiday period - we're aware they're not up for sale yet and will be correcting that as soon as possible. Will keep you updated! In the mean time, glad you like the looks of them - that is indeed a sweet looking sword, thanks to the artistic talents of Gnobrin, if I recall correctly. I think my swashbuckler alt may be eyeing it too! the same sword with red light in it in the offhand would be awesome on my swash... __________________ Then Than You're Your They're There Their

12-29-2010, 06:00 PM	#9
Solarax Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 487	Dreyco wrote: I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin. me too. i /agree with JoarAddam too about a red light version

12-28-2010, 09:40 PM	#1
Amnerys Community Team Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,317	Chillborn Sword New items this week include the Chillborn Sword and two new Northweave Clothing Crates, in tones of Purple and Blue. Give yourself a cool new look with these new items! And don't miss the Item of the Week; the Tome of Erudin cosmetic book pet.

12-29-2010, 03:14 PM	#5
Domino Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,046	Apologies for the slight delay due to the holiday period - we're aware they're not up for sale yet and will be correcting that as soon as possible. Will keep you updated! In the mean time, glad you like the looks of them - that is indeed a sweet looking sword, thanks to the artistic talents of Gnobrin, if I recall correctly. I think my swashbuckler alt may be eyeing it too!

12-29-2010, 04:09 PM	#7
Calabeth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Wow imagine that even more clothing that looks nice, to further shove the nose of tailors that hoped we might actually ever be able to create something as good as this in game. Ooops I forgot our earning pp doesnt but green in the big machines pockets as well. /sarcasm off

12-29-2010, 05:54 PM	#8
Tuppen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 394	All of the casual clothes on the marketplace don't fit on the SOGA halfling male. Otherwise, I would purchase more of them. There are big gaps between the pants and waist and on the chest and back. The skin graphics don't go far enough down the chest or the back of the neck to meet with the tops of the shirts. You can't see this in the dressing room, but it looks horrible on the in-game characters. I keep forgetting to bug it in game.

12-29-2010, 06:48 PM	#10
Domino Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,046	Update: these items are now available for purchase! Apologies for the delay, and thanks for letting us know about it.

12-29-2010, 06:49 PM	#11
kcirrot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 898	Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote: Dreyco wrote: I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin. me too. i /agree with JoarAddam too about a red light version Can we get a green light version as well. Tree-huggers and all that.

12-29-2010, 09:05 PM	#12
Dreadpatch Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 575	I like pie __________________ Elusion 90 Coercer 250 AA Alendril 90 Troubador 250 AA Ribatio 90 Mystic 242 AA Dreadpatch 90 Swashbuckler 171 AA Delanar 70 Guardian Blackghost 39 (BG) Assassin

12-29-2010, 11:43 PM	#13
KerowynnKaotic Tormentor of Fae Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Middle of Nowhere, Arizona Posts: 1,862	Any particular reason why we can't right click to examine any of the SC stuff anymore? Like the clothing crates .. they have 3 different color versions in them but I can't right click the crate to examine and then click on each different piece to pull into the dressing room to see what it would look like. All I get to view in the dressing room is the defualt set .. ------- Be nice if they put in a dagger version of the Chillborn set, too. __________________

12-29-2010, 11:43 PM	#14
Kamimura Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,964	kcirrot wrote: Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote: Dreyco wrote: I cannot find these items on the marketplace. I wanted to get the sword for my assassin. me too. i /agree with JoarAddam too about a red light version Can we get a green light version as well. Tree-huggers and all that. It is a nice looking sword, would also love to see a few more colors added.

12-30-2010, 01:41 AM	#15
Shazzie Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 111	Kaisha@Permafrost wrote: Any particular reason why we can't right click to examine any of the SC stuff anymore? Like the clothing crates .. they have 3 different color versions in them but I can't right click the crate to examine and then click on each different piece to pull into the dressing room to see what it would look like. All I get to view in the dressing room is the defualt set .. ------- Be nice if they put in a dagger version of the Chillborn set, too. If you just want to view in the dressing room, select the crate of clothing you want to check out, then on the right-hand side, select 'Description' tab. That tab will list each individual piece in the set, and you can try each one on from there.

12-30-2010, 08:28 AM	#16
MrWolfie Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Agent of Chaos Guildhall, North Qeynos, Splitpaw. Posts: 1,239	Kaisha@Permafrost wrote: Any particular reason why we can't right click to examine any of the SC stuff anymore? If it's got "New" or "Hot" written on top of the icon, that's bugging out the UI and you cannot right-click. It was /bugged it the first day they started putting these tags on items in the Marketplace, which was a few months ago, but you know what a void the /bug reporting system is. Shame on SOE 'cos it seems like quite a quick fix to the script that would make these overlaid tags cease absorbing mouse-clicks. Good job players like Shazzie have figured out a work-around. Icons without the "Hot" and "New" text should still be right-clickable as before. __________________

01-01-2011, 12:45 PM	#17
Azzad Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 130	I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game?

01-01-2011, 01:14 PM	#18
thephantomposter Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 573	Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I really dont have a problem with the Marketplace but it is definately overkill now and I miss the same!

01-03-2011, 11:43 AM	#19
Jaremai Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,271	Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? Think of the adventures and excitement you can have driving to pick up a SC card. You never know who you'll meet along the way, and you might just pass a newspaper stand and notice that it's 2011. (yes I know that's a bit snarky, I'm sorry.)

01-03-2011, 11:50 AM	#20
JoarAddam Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,239	Ok I've seen it in game now... The particles are kinda... huge. Very very huge. __________________ Then Than You're Your They're There Their

01-03-2011, 01:21 PM	#21
Mabelode Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	JoarAddam wrote: Ok I've seen it in game now... The particles are kinda... huge. Very very huge. I noticed that too. I was considering this for a toon of mine, until the particles turned me away. Then again, I'm happier not spending RL money on it. I'll stick too character slots, and other similar services.

01-03-2011, 04:37 PM	#22
kcirrot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 898	Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot.

01-03-2011, 05:22 PM	#23
TwistedFaith Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 892	kcirrot wrote: Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot. Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card. In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game. Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................

01-03-2011, 06:27 PM	#24
CorpseGoddess Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,774	TwistedFaith wrote: kcirrot wrote: Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot. Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card. In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game. Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................ Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in before SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much. Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to my personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---that would annoy me. __________________

01-03-2011, 06:59 PM	#25
JoarAddam Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,239	Streppoch@Guk wrote: TwistedFaith wrote: kcirrot wrote: Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot. Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card. In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game. Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................ Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in before SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much. Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to my personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---that would annoy me. Just because you can't get these particular models in game doesn't mean that there are no cool items to be had in game. There are tons of truly awesome looking weapons and armor that are available in game, you're just not looking or don't care to. Epics, for instance. Class helms, for another. gear that has the appearance of relic that was recently added (relic looked pretty nice) to the KoS questlines, the faction gear made in RoK, Shard gear, Rime gear. There are 11ty billion ways to get some nice looking gear. maybe not THESE models, but for a cool weapon that's not your epic, get yourself a Gotrot the Flayer, Tarinax's Spine, The axe from Hollow Hedge, The legendary bows from EoF and TSO... just to name a few Look at all the freaking awesome shields we have in this game. The BG shield, The Qeynos Guard, Wall of Eyes.... again, just to name a few. Quit being so darned lazy and actually look around for yourself and appreciate the art that's available to you, instead of getting on a "there's nothing cool in the game because SC is SO EVIL" bandwagon that isn't actually true. __________________ Then Than You're Your They're There Their

01-03-2011, 07:14 PM	#26
kcirrot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 898	TwistedFaith wrote: kcirrot wrote: Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot. Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card. In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game. Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................ I disagree. Appearance can be something you work for, but it need not be. Nor should it need to be an interminable grind. Some level of grind is necessary for it to be a MMORPG, but you shouldn't have to look ugly doing it. I didn't mind grinding out the stupid harvests and sitting in Chelsith for hours for my epic, because that's an important weapon statwise there was other stuff I could use for appearance. But hiding nice appearances behind raids and grinds is not fun to me. It's not necessary either, witness the super hero MMOs.

01-03-2011, 08:27 PM	#27
CorpseGoddess Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,774	*JoarAddam wrote:* Streppoch@Guk wrote: Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in before SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much. Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to my personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---that would annoy me. Just because you can't get these particular models in game doesn't mean that there are no cool items to be had in game. There are tons of truly awesome looking weapons and armor that are available in game, you're just not looking or don't care to. Epics, for instance. Class helms, for another. gear that has the appearance of relic that was recently added (relic looked pretty nice) to the KoS questlines, the faction gear made in RoK, Shard gear, Rime gear. There are 11ty billion ways to get some nice looking gear. maybe not THESE models, but for a cool weapon that's not your epic, get yourself a Gotrot the Flayer, Tarinax's Spine, The axe from Hollow Hedge, The legendary bows from EoF and TSO... just to name a few Look at all the freaking awesome shields we have in this game. The BG shield, The Qeynos Guard, Wall of Eyes.... again, just to name a few. Quit being so darned lazy and actually look around for yourself and appreciate the art that's available to you, instead of getting on a "there's nothing cool in the game because SC is SO EVIL" bandwagon that isn't actually true. Okay there, cowboy. Take a deep breath and read my WHOLE statement if you would, please. First off, I like the SC stuff. I am now a new vampire with the cool wings. So right off the bat, you're yelling at the choir. Secondly, you'll notice I said "for most of EQ2's existence". You are absolutely correct in your statement about epics and whatnot, but these are fairly recent additions compared to the whole EQ timeline. And a lot of them started when we were already getting cool-looking stuff from LoN, so it kind of backs up my argument. Yes, there are absolutely some really cool items in-game. However, these are few and far-between, while most of the stuff uses the same models and whatnot. And---I'll say it again---if SOE had introduced more quested/obtained/whathaveyou items in game (many more than existed) BEFORE LoN and SC, I don't think people (NOT ME, OTHER PLAYERS WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY ANTI-SC) would be as upset by their purchasable existence. And for your information, in addition to loving shiny stuff I'm also a questaholic, so I have many, many of those things you mentioned (the ones I can use with my class, anyway). So I'm with you there as well. At nearly 2700+ quests, I daresay "lazy" isn't one of the adjectives you can use for me. There are many you can, but that isn't one of them. __________________

01-03-2011, 08:28 PM	#28
TwistedFaith Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 892	kcirrot wrote: TwistedFaith wrote: kcirrot wrote: Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot. Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card. In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game. Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................ I disagree. Appearance can be something you work for, but it need not be. Nor should it need to be an interminable grind. Some level of grind is necessary for it to be a MMORPG, but you shouldn't have to look ugly doing it. I didn't mind grinding out the stupid harvests and sitting in Chelsith for hours for my epic, because that's an important weapon statwise there was other stuff I could use for appearance. But hiding nice appearances behind raids and grinds is not fun to me. It's not necessary either, witness the super hero MMOs. Well I think it's a crying shame that what you accomplish in the game isn't shown anymore in your appearance. There should be cool items to quest for etc but the sad truth is there aren't. Take that fancy new sword on the marketplace, that should be rewarded to people for doing quests/killing mobs not just for those who are willing to whip out the credit card. Where's the fun aspect of working on your character, you may as well be playing some sort of online barbie shopping game where you dress up your virtual barbie/ken doll. Take for example the tier 3 raid armor, EVERY SCOUTS T3 ARMOR LOOKS THE SAME! You work together as a team, strive to do something and then are rewarded with what only can be called a incredibly bland armor set. Then you look at the other scouts and they also have the same identical looking set. So you have these players looking like rejects in their awful armor who have killed some of the most difficult mobs in the game, worked on their characters then you have someone who looks a million times better because they whipped out their credit card and bought a fancy armor set. Look at the heritage armor available on marketplace, it's disgusting that players are not able to quest to get their specific racial armor.

01-03-2011, 08:50 PM	#29
JoarAddam Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,239	Streppoch@Guk wrote: *JoarAddam wrote:* Streppoch@Guk wrote: Well, if SOE had started out with more cool things you can quest for and whatnot, there probably wouldn't be the same level of vitriol over SC stuff as there is now. The truth of the matter is that most of the drops, be they armour or weapons, in the history of EQ2 have been underwhelming in appearance. Most of the crafted stuff is bland as well. If there had been more diversity brought in before SC came to be, I think people wouldn't have minded as much. Honestly, I just like shiny stuff. How I get it (or how anybody else gets it) at the end of the day is meaningless to my personal playstyle. Just don't tell me I can't get it at all---that would annoy me. Just because you can't get these particular models in game doesn't mean that there are no cool items to be had in game. There are tons of truly awesome looking weapons and armor that are available in game, you're just not looking or don't care to. Epics, for instance. Class helms, for another. gear that has the appearance of relic that was recently added (relic looked pretty nice) to the KoS questlines, the faction gear made in RoK, Shard gear, Rime gear. There are 11ty billion ways to get some nice looking gear. maybe not THESE models, but for a cool weapon that's not your epic, get yourself a Gotrot the Flayer, Tarinax's Spine, The axe from Hollow Hedge, The legendary bows from EoF and TSO... just to name a few Look at all the freaking awesome shields we have in this game. The BG shield, The Qeynos Guard, Wall of Eyes.... again, just to name a few. Quit being so darned lazy and actually look around for yourself and appreciate the art that's available to you, instead of getting on a "there's nothing cool in the game because SC is SO EVIL" bandwagon that isn't actually true. Okay there, cowboy. Take a deep breath and read my WHOLE statement if you would, please. First off, I like the SC stuff. I am now a new vampire with the cool wings. So right off the bat, you're yelling at the choir. Secondly, you'll notice I said "for most of EQ2's existence". You are absolutely correct in your statement about epics and whatnot, but these are fairly recent additions compared to the whole EQ timeline. And a lot of them started when we were already getting cool-looking stuff from LoN, so it kind of backs up my argument. Yes, there are absolutely some really cool items in-game. However, these are few and far-between, while most of the stuff uses the same models and whatnot. And---I'll say it again---if SOE had introduced more quested/obtained/whathaveyou items in game (many more than existed) BEFORE LoN and SC, I don't think people (NOT ME, OTHER PLAYERS WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY ANTI-SC) would be as upset by their purchasable existence. And for your information, in addition to loving shiny stuff I'm also a questaholic, so I have many, many of those things you mentioned (the ones I can use with my class, anyway). So I'm with you there as well. At nearly 2700+ quests, I daresay "lazy" isn't one of the adjectives you can use for me. There are many you can, but that isn't one of them. We had a ton of new and interesting armors and weapons added with SF, drop by any mark vendor to see a small portion of them. Some of them are recycled models, but a LOT of them are not. Again, just because you can't get this exact model, doesn't mean there is no cool stuff added to the game outside SC. I mentioned epics, yes, which was 4 expansions in, but I also mentioned relic gear and Gortrot the Flayer and Tarinax's spine, which were 2 expansions in.There were new mace and sword models in DoF, one expansion in, new sword models and improved textures during the third expansion... we're at expansion 6 now, and there is cool stuff in every expansion. The treasured stuff is all recycled, and so is the MC stuff, as far as appearance goes, but that's as should be. Treasured appearance for treasured play... __________________ Then Than You're Your They're There Their

01-04-2011, 01:52 AM	#30
kcirrot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 898	TwistedFaith wrote: kcirrot wrote: TwistedFaith wrote: kcirrot wrote: Ironhall@Antonia Bayle wrote: I miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story filled with adventure and excitment and I would gather my friends to go out and try to obtain one for myself. Now the cool items come from the Marketplace. How is that fun for anyone? You realize this is the ultimate downfall of this game? I do not miss the days of seeing a player with a cool item and I'd ask them how they got it and they would tell me a story of placeholders and reputation grinds and doing instanced raids every week for a year until the RNG finally had mercy on them and released the item. Now, you can look cool which has no effect on anyone else's game and statwise wear whatever is the best item you have for that slot. Yeah because what is the point of working for something when you can just break out the credit card. In my opinion the appearance of your avatar in MMOs is one of the most important aspects, it should show what you have done with your character, where you have been, what adventures you have had and act as a carrot to other players who want to do the same. Sadly these days your appearance is directly related to how much money you were willing to pay SOE, it's kind of sad honestly. It's pathetic that a lvl 10 newbie could have better looking armor than someone who has killed the most difficult dragon in the game. Remember when SoE would tell us all how incredibly difficult it was to make new armor, yet it seems that every week or so they somehow find the time to make more marketplace items. But that's a totally different team right and all the proceeds of SC goto EQ2 right............................ I disagree. Appearance can be something you work for, but it need not be. Nor should it need to be an interminable grind. Some level of grind is necessary for it to be a MMORPG, but you shouldn't have to look ugly doing it. I didn't mind grinding out the stupid harvests and sitting in Chelsith for hours for my epic, because that's an important weapon statwise there was other stuff I could use for appearance. But hiding nice appearances behind raids and grinds is not fun to me. It's not necessary either, witness the super hero MMOs. Well I think it's a crying shame that what you accomplish in the game isn't shown anymore in your appearance. There should be cool items to quest for etc but the sad truth is there aren't. Take that fancy new sword on the marketplace, that should be rewarded to people for doing quests/killing mobs not just for those who are willing to whip out the credit card. Where's the fun aspect of working on your character, you may as well be playing some sort of online barbie shopping game where you dress up your virtual barbie/ken doll. Take for example the tier 3 raid armor, EVERY SCOUTS T3 ARMOR LOOKS THE SAME! You work together as a team, strive to do something and then are rewarded with what only can be called a incredibly bland armor set. Then you look at the other scouts and they also have the same identical looking set. So you have these players looking like rejects in their awful armor who have killed some of the most difficult mobs in the game, worked on their characters then you have someone who looks a million times better because they whipped out their credit card and bought a fancy armor set. Look at the heritage armor available on marketplace, it's disgusting that players are not able to quest to get their specific racial armor. Again, I disagree. I work on my characters because they get more powerful and can do different things. I don't like having my appearance be bound up in a quest or gear grind. My two 90s are substantially more powerful than they were when SF was released. After raiding, questing, grouping in instances they have much more wealth and really nice gear that has allowed them to solo mobs that would have crushed them back in February. However, during that whole time, I've enjoyed how they've looked because of some Marketplace gear I bought a while ago. I don't think appearance is something that one should have to do much 'work' for. I love it that everyone can look cool. Raiders get plenty rewarded. I'm not downing hardmode mobs, but I am raiding and I do get rewarded for it just fine. I do quest and get rewarded for it.