Drolvarg

DeBasilisk · 11-22-2010, 09:13 PM

Something I found interesting was that the "Man or Beast" mastery tome for the drolvargs implies that the drolvargs consider themselves direct creations of Innoruuk, but we know from Vhalen that they are actually Iksar twisted by Venril Sathir.

I wonder where the Innoruuk angle came in...not that it most likely matters. Just curious.

Ragnaphore · 11-22-2010, 10:00 PM

Venril and Innoruuk had (has?) a few deals, For exemple, Venril gained the knowledge of Lichdom from Inny and according to the EQ1's Duid Epic quest they had another pact going at that time. So while they're probably not a direct creation, it's not too far stretched to think that Inny took some role in it.

DeBasilisk · 11-22-2010, 10:09 PM

Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness.

Rezikai · 11-23-2010, 03:22 AM

DeBasilisk wrote:

Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness.

They know because it was relatively known Venril used the arts found in the Unholy Writ of War, the necromatic book of black arts he gained from Kotiz? when he killed Kotiz for the book. Inny,.. iirc gave it to Kotiz 1st and Venril slain him and took it becoming even more powerfull and decided to turn them into the drolvarg beasts.

The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan.

Ragnaphore · 11-23-2010, 05:09 AM

Rezikai wrote:

They know because it was relatively known Venril used the arts found in the Unholy Writ of War, the necromatic book of black arts he gained from Kotiz? when he killed Kotiz for the book. Inny,.. iirc gave it to Kotiz 1st and Venril slain him and took it becoming even more powerfull and decided to turn them into the drolvarg beasts.

The Unholy Writ of War came from Zebuxoruk not Innoruuk, Venril gained it from Kotiz when he was still young (before the unification of the Iksar's tribes). Even though Venril's life had been extended by the knowledge gained from the Unholy Writ of War, he was still mortal and he needed Innoruuk's help to gain "immortality" through lichdom.

shadowscale · 11-23-2010, 06:08 AM

Rezikai wrote:

DeBasilisk wrote:
Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness.
The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan.

the curse is just a specific area on kunark, not the entire contanent, he just got unlucky enogh to find it. the area itself has never been in eather EQ1 or 2.

Rezikai · 11-23-2010, 06:19 AM

shadowscale wrote:

Rezikai wrote:
DeBasilisk wrote:
Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness.
The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan.
the curse is just a specific area on kunark, not the entire contanent, he just got unlucky enogh to find it. the area itself has never been in eather EQ1 or 2.

Hmm maybe I'm incorrect but I thought in the Full Metal and For a Few Coins More quests he says that his ancestors were the ones cursed which would be the Kylong Tribe, which is the Kylong plains area where the Dreadlands and such are... time to go check the quest dialogue.

Ragnaphore wrote:

Rezikai wrote:
They know because it was relatively known Venril used the arts found in the Unholy Writ of War, the necromatic book of black arts he gained from Kotiz? when he killed Kotiz for the book. Inny,.. iirc gave it to Kotiz 1st and Venril slain him and took it becoming even more powerfull and decided to turn them into the drolvarg beasts.
The Unholy Writ of War came from Zebuxoruk not Innoruuk, Venril gained it from Kotiz when he was still young (before the unification of the Iksar's tribes). Even though Venril's life had been extended by the knowledge gained from the Unholy Writ of War, he was still mortal and he needed Innoruuk's help to gain "immortality" through lichdom.

Are you sure? I thought the Unholy Writ of Power was the book Zeb had. I'll go back and find the old lore notes b/c the same book was also given to Mayong which is why they both created "similar" styled creatures.

shadowscale · 11-23-2010, 06:50 AM

Rezikai wrote:

shadowscale wrote:
Rezikai wrote:
DeBasilisk wrote:
Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness.
The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan.
the curse is just a specific area on kunark, not the entire contanent, he just got unlucky enogh to find it. the area itself has never been in eather EQ1 or 2.
Hmm maybe I'm incorrect but I thought in the Full Metal and For a Few Coins More quests he says that his ancestors were the ones cursed which would be the Kylong Tribe, which is the Kylong plains area where the Dreadlands and such are... time to go check the quest dialogue.

was a single city actualy, that has never made an apperence that recived the curse, he was raiding trasures and ended up walking into it.

DeBasilisk · 11-23-2010, 10:19 AM

The city/tribe were called the Drolakis, but they were of the greater Kylong tribes. Drolakis was, I think, supposed to be part of the Dreadlands.

That's neat about the curse still being active in some areas. I forgot that quest.

11-22-2010, 09:13 PM	#1
DeBasilisk Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137	Something I found interesting was that the "Man or Beast" mastery tome for the drolvargs implies that the drolvargs consider themselves direct creations of Innoruuk, but we know from Vhalen that they are actually Iksar twisted by Venril Sathir. I wonder where the Innoruuk angle came in...not that it most likely matters. Just curious. __________________

11-22-2010, 10:09 PM	#3
DeBasilisk Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137	Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness. __________________

11-23-2010, 03:22 AM	#4
Rezikai Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 561	DeBasilisk wrote: Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness. They know because it was relatively known Venril used the arts found in the Unholy Writ of War, the necromatic book of black arts he gained from Kotiz? when he killed Kotiz for the book. Inny,.. iirc gave it to Kotiz 1st and Venril slain him and took it becoming even more powerfull and decided to turn them into the drolvarg beasts. The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan. __________________

11-23-2010, 05:09 AM	#5
Ragnaphore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 715	Rezikai wrote: They know because it was relatively known Venril used the arts found in the Unholy Writ of War, the necromatic book of black arts he gained from Kotiz? when he killed Kotiz for the book. Inny,.. iirc gave it to Kotiz 1st and Venril slain him and took it becoming even more powerfull and decided to turn them into the drolvarg beasts. The Unholy Writ of War came from Zebuxoruk not Innoruuk, Venril gained it from Kotiz when he was still young (before the unification of the Iksar's tribes). Even though Venril's life had been extended by the knowledge gained from the Unholy Writ of War, he was still mortal and he needed Innoruuk's help to gain "immortality" through lichdom.

11-23-2010, 06:08 AM	#6
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	Rezikai wrote: DeBasilisk wrote: Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness. The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan. the curse is just a specific area on kunark, not the entire contanent, he just got unlucky enogh to find it. the area itself has never been in eather EQ1 or 2.

11-22-2010, 10:00 PM	#2
Ragnaphore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 715	Venril and Innoruuk had (has?) a few deals, For exemple, Venril gained the knowledge of Lichdom from Inny and according to the EQ1's Duid Epic quest they had another pact going at that time. So while they're probably not a direct creation, it's not too far stretched to think that Inny took some role in it.

11-23-2010, 06:19 AM	#7
Rezikai Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 561	shadowscale wrote: Rezikai wrote: DeBasilisk wrote: Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness. The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan. the curse is just a specific area on kunark, not the entire contanent, he just got unlucky enogh to find it. the area itself has never been in eather EQ1 or 2. Hmm maybe I'm incorrect but I thought in the Full Metal and For a Few Coins More quests he says that his ancestors were the ones cursed which would be the Kylong Tribe, which is the Kylong plains area where the Dreadlands and such are... time to go check the quest dialogue. Ragnaphore wrote: Rezikai wrote: They know because it was relatively known Venril used the arts found in the Unholy Writ of War, the necromatic book of black arts he gained from Kotiz? when he killed Kotiz for the book. Inny,.. iirc gave it to Kotiz 1st and Venril slain him and took it becoming even more powerfull and decided to turn them into the drolvarg beasts. The Unholy Writ of War came from Zebuxoruk not Innoruuk, Venril gained it from Kotiz when he was still young (before the unification of the Iksar's tribes). Even though Venril's life had been extended by the knowledge gained from the Unholy Writ of War, he was still mortal and he needed Innoruuk's help to gain "immortality" through lichdom. Are you sure? I thought the Unholy Writ of Power was the book Zeb had. I'll go back and find the old lore notes b/c the same book was also given to Mayong which is why they both created "similar" styled creatures. __________________

11-23-2010, 06:50 AM	#8
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	Rezikai wrote: shadowscale wrote: Rezikai wrote: DeBasilisk wrote: Possible, but I doubt Venril would let them know that. He's the type that loves to harp on his own godliness. The drolvarg curse still exists to, when adventurers found recent ship routes to the continent of Kunark the treasure hunters the Wild Bunch came in search of loot. The iksar member of their team nearly as soon as he stepped onto the land of Kunark felt the transformation and turned into a big blue Drolvarg, his ancestors apparently had been of the Kylong clan. the curse is just a specific area on kunark, not the entire contanent, he just got unlucky enogh to find it. the area itself has never been in eather EQ1 or 2. Hmm maybe I'm incorrect but I thought in the Full Metal and For a Few Coins More quests he says that his ancestors were the ones cursed which would be the Kylong Tribe, which is the Kylong plains area where the Dreadlands and such are... time to go check the quest dialogue. was a single city actualy, that has never made an apperence that recived the curse, he was raiding trasures and ended up walking into it.

11-23-2010, 10:19 AM	#9
DeBasilisk Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137	The city/tribe were called the Drolakis, but they were of the greater Kylong tribes. Drolakis was, I think, supposed to be part of the Dreadlands. That's neat about the curse still being active in some areas. I forgot that quest. __________________