Hard Tox Strat..

Alazarz · 04-15-2010, 10:54 AM

Where does the raid stand relative to tox to avoid getting owned? seems soon as he swallows the tank the groups get destroyed.. we have tryed standing under his belly, legs, behind him etc..

Ok ..so, I know ill get flamed up here or w/e for asking for strats on a hard mode progression mob.. But ive nowhere else to turn to atm but these forums..

I would like to say that the raid force we have isnt perfect.. sometimes we do't even have any bards and we are very lucky to have 2 in raid on occasion.. we also lack consistent raiders on every raid day so building cohesion can be very tough when every raid theres atleast a group of new people to catch up on progression / group cohesion etc..

Our guild has been doing very well for what we do have avalible at any given raid time.

We went and pulled Hard mode Tox for our first time the otherday.. 1 group tanked Vulaan up against the NE wall .. while the other groups were fighting Tox while moving him around the room avoiding the nox bubble..

once again..where's the best place for our raid to stand to avoid whole groups getting decimated? some have said under his belly, under his rear legs and behind him..

any help is appreciated.. i realize that alot of guilds take pride in figuring things out for themselves.. that being said those guilds are usually a stacked raid force with the same 24 showing up consistently that have a very vast advantage over most casual guilds..

regards,

alazarz

Kulaf · 04-15-2010, 01:00 PM

Not going to talk about this mob specifically but just how to solve issues in EQ2 raiding in general. The key is experimentation. Don't be afraid to not have anyone do anything except try not to die. Then begin layering on other things. If you have a MOB with harsh AE's.......are they zone wide? Or are they joustable? If the MOB has frontals.....what is the arc? It is 60 deg like a cone? Or is it 180 deg?

Don't try to see the encounter as one big collection of fail. Break it down and try to figure out how to handle the individual parts and then put it all together. Don't be afraid to die......a LOT.

GL

ttobey · 04-15-2010, 01:38 PM

How does it look when the tank gets eaten? Is it pure awesome? Was it "OH GEEZ!!! GRONK GOT EATEN!!"

Bremer · 04-15-2010, 01:50 PM

I think it looks exactly as when Tox casts the poison AE

ttobey · 04-15-2010, 01:52 PM

So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation?

Iskandar · 04-15-2010, 01:55 PM

ttobey wrote:

How does it look when the tank gets eaten? Is it pure awesome? Was it "OH GEEZ!!! GRONK GOT EATEN!!"

hahaha! I can just picture a group of devs watching a raid hit some of these mobs like some folks watch a football game

Gaige · 04-15-2010, 02:00 PM

ttobey wrote:

So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation?

I stand corrected!

Corydonn · 04-15-2010, 02:01 PM

ttobey wrote:

So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation?

I see the animation quite alot and it looks quite awesome along with Roehn Theer's animations.

Xill · 04-15-2010, 02:04 PM

ttobey wrote:

So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation?

*stifles jokes*

*still stifling jokes*

*Cant speak without cracking jokes*

ttobey · 04-15-2010, 02:07 PM

Xill wrote:

ttobey wrote:
So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation?
*stifles jokes*
*still stifling jokes*
*Cant speak without cracking jokes*

Your going to get detention SMILEY

Lader · 04-15-2010, 02:11 PM

i never have noticed a bite and swollow animation, i just look for the red text. i'll look for it on sunday though!

Tehom · 04-15-2010, 02:52 PM

I never noticed the animation! A lot of us run with spell results set to 0 to avoid client lag from other players. I really wish there was a way to just have it on for npcs, because I'd love to watch animations for them.

To the OP, just try to find two spots that are pretty close to one another and that tanks can avoid knockback in, and move between em. You don't need to move very far to avoid the toxic sphere. The less you move Toxxulia, the better off you are. I'm not trying to be deliberately vague - there's probably a bunch of places you can move her between, so just find whatever works best for you.

Xalmat · 04-15-2010, 02:59 PM

We rely on the red text to tell when people are eaten.

Rijacki · 04-15-2010, 05:20 PM

ttobey wrote:

Xill wrote:
ttobey wrote:
So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation?
*stifles jokes*
*still stifling jokes*
*Cant speak without cracking jokes*
Your going to get detention

"Hey look! Howard's being eaten!"

ttobey · 04-15-2010, 06:14 PM

Well somebody youtube it for me when you see it again.

Wytie · 04-16-2010, 10:15 AM

ttobey wrote:

Well somebody youtube it for me when you see it again.

Does this mount have a bite and swallow animation? SMILEY

And God I hope you arent just teasing with that avatar I want this LOL

Morghus · 04-16-2010, 10:26 AM

Don't know if this got fixed, but I found it strange that sometimes when you are swallowed Tox will follow the swallowed person into her own belly and attack them!

Phelon_Skellhound · 04-17-2010, 12:14 AM

I find kinda odd that a mini version of Tox flies from the roof down to you to ummmm.... eat you again? yeah happens to me 3 times already lol

Olarad · 04-19-2010, 11:31 AM

So do you need 3 tanks for this fight? Two on tox in case one gets eaten, and one on vuulan..or whichever is the 3rd mob?

04-15-2010, 01:00 PM	#2
Kulaf Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 387	Not going to talk about this mob specifically but just how to solve issues in EQ2 raiding in general. The key is experimentation. Don't be afraid to not have anyone do anything except try not to die. Then begin layering on other things. If you have a MOB with harsh AE's.......are they zone wide? Or are they joustable? If the MOB has frontals.....what is the arc? It is 60 deg like a cone? Or is it 180 deg? Don't try to see the encounter as one big collection of fail. Break it down and try to figure out how to handle the individual parts and then put it all together. Don't be afraid to die......a LOT. GL __________________

04-15-2010, 01:38 PM	#3
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	How does it look when the tank gets eaten? Is it pure awesome? Was it "OH GEEZ!!! GRONK GOT EATEN!!" __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

04-15-2010, 01:52 PM	#5
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation? __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

04-15-2010, 01:55 PM	#6
Iskandar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 1,047	ttobey wrote: How does it look when the tank gets eaten? Is it pure awesome? Was it "OH GEEZ!!! GRONK GOT EATEN!!" hahaha! I can just picture a group of devs watching a raid hit some of these mobs like some folks watch a football game

04-15-2010, 02:00 PM	#7
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	ttobey wrote: So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation? I stand corrected! __________________

04-15-2010, 10:54 AM	#1
Alazarz Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 380	Where does the raid stand relative to tox to avoid getting owned? seems soon as he swallows the tank the groups get destroyed.. we have tryed standing under his belly, legs, behind him etc.. Ok ..so, I know ill get flamed up here or w/e for asking for strats on a hard mode progression mob.. But ive nowhere else to turn to atm but these forums.. I would like to say that the raid force we have isnt perfect.. sometimes we do't even have any bards and we are very lucky to have 2 in raid on occasion.. we also lack consistent raiders on every raid day so building cohesion can be very tough when every raid theres atleast a group of new people to catch up on progression / group cohesion etc.. Our guild has been doing very well for what we do have avalible at any given raid time. We went and pulled Hard mode Tox for our first time the otherday.. 1 group tanked Vulaan up against the NE wall .. while the other groups were fighting Tox while moving him around the room avoiding the nox bubble.. once again..where's the best place for our raid to stand to avoid whole groups getting decimated? some have said under his belly, under his rear legs and behind him.. any help is appreciated.. i realize that alot of guilds take pride in figuring things out for themselves.. that being said those guilds are usually a stacked raid force with the same 24 showing up consistently that have a very vast advantage over most casual guilds.. regards, alazarz

04-15-2010, 01:50 PM	#4
Bremer Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,902	I think it looks exactly as when Tox casts the poison AE

04-15-2010, 02:01 PM	#8
Corydonn Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 744	ttobey wrote: So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation? I see the animation quite alot and it looks quite awesome along with Roehn Theer's animations.

04-15-2010, 02:04 PM	#9
Xill Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 318	ttobey wrote: So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation? stifles jokes still stifling jokes Cant speak without cracking jokes

04-15-2010, 02:07 PM	#10
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Xill wrote: ttobey wrote: So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation? stifles jokes still stifling jokes Cant speak without cracking jokes Your going to get detention __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

04-15-2010, 02:11 PM	#11
Lader Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 591	i never have noticed a bite and swollow animation, i just look for the red text. i'll look for it on sunday though! __________________ -Thanatosis: 90 defiler of Oasis

04-15-2010, 02:52 PM	#12
Tehom Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,171	I never noticed the animation! A lot of us run with spell results set to 0 to avoid client lag from other players. I really wish there was a way to just have it on for npcs, because I'd love to watch animations for them. To the OP, just try to find two spots that are pretty close to one another and that tanks can avoid knockback in, and move between em. You don't need to move very far to avoid the toxic sphere. The less you move Toxxulia, the better off you are. I'm not trying to be deliberately vague - there's probably a bunch of places you can move her between, so just find whatever works best for you.

04-15-2010, 02:59 PM	#13
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	We rely on the red text to tell when people are eaten. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

04-15-2010, 05:20 PM	#14
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	ttobey wrote: Xill wrote: ttobey wrote: So she's not playing the bite and swallow animation? stifles jokes still stifling jokes Cant speak without cracking jokes Your going to get detention "Hey look! Howard's being eaten!" __________________

04-15-2010, 06:14 PM	#15
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Well somebody youtube it for me when you see it again. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

04-16-2010, 10:15 AM	#16
Wytie Mouse Betrayer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,579	ttobey wrote: Well somebody youtube it for me when you see it again. Does this mount have a bite and swallow animation? And God I hope you arent just teasing with that avatar I want this LOL __________________

04-16-2010, 10:26 AM	#17
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Don't know if this got fixed, but I found it strange that sometimes when you are swallowed Tox will follow the swallowed person into her own belly and attack them!

04-17-2010, 12:14 AM	#18
Phelon_Skellhound Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 272	I find kinda odd that a mini version of Tox flies from the roof down to you to ummmm.... eat you again? yeah happens to me 3 times already lol __________________ Shadowknight of 90 seasons Weaponsmith of 90 seasons What good is life without a little bit of death?

04-19-2010, 11:31 AM	#19
Olarad Server: Nagafen Guild: Lucans Chosen Rank: Commander (officer rank) Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5	So do you need 3 tanks for this fight? Two on tox in case one gets eaten, and one on vuulan..or whichever is the 3rd mob?