I got bored ..

Jesdyr · 03-24-2010, 03:41 AM

And packed up my guildhall .. then played around with layouts for a bit ..

Here is the back of it (which you cant really get to)

Mistal · 03-24-2010, 05:02 AM

/speechless

ok well one word WOW!

Ok more words ... stunning.. flawless!... Awesome

A perfect example of layouts used to their fullest SMILEY

totally wonderful Jes

xxx

roterHase · 03-24-2010, 05:24 AM

O.......M........G

S P E E C H L E S S

FANTASTIC - BOMBASTIC - GRANDIOS !

Eritius · 03-24-2010, 05:35 AM

Amazing. Now if only there were screenies of the work in progress SMILEY

Gzelle · 03-24-2010, 08:46 AM

Wow - thats just awesome use of the layouts!!! I'm absolutely floored!! That must have taken so much time, hats off to your patience.

Seidhkona · 03-24-2010, 09:37 AM

/cries

Now I have to finally break down and figure out how to use layouts, because I need a grotto for my Shrine of the Rose and that's too perfect!

Bruji · 03-24-2010, 10:22 AM

AMAZING! Beautiful work. What patience.

Jesdyr · 03-24-2010, 01:46 PM

Thanks SMILEY

But honestly it doesn't take long at all. I think I spent about 3hrs but a majority of that was playing around with different items. What is in the pics is about 30-45min of work.The entire dome part was placed by my program. I hand placed the stonework because I wanted a rough look and I figured that was not the final design anyway.

One design had stairs starting on the right side and spiraling around the back. But I could not figure out a way to frame things in without using up a huge item count. As it is that is around 90 items in the pics.

I also made one that started with a bottom row of red marble dividers (like the pic) then red stain glass, then dividers, then blue stain glass. It was too dark so I scrapped it.

What I learned from this is that I need to write more code to make it easier. There are some little things that bugged me. one of which I was able to fix (when you delete all rows then use the spirals or tile creation sometimes it leaves a blank line in the window, I finally found a way to get rid of it).

Anyway .. I will take some screens later that show how to do this. Some of it was guess work SMILEY

Inire · 03-24-2010, 05:46 PM

Looks great.

right up until you are actually in the guild with him. and stuff is spontaneously moving about. got whacked in the head with a [Removed for Content] brick the other day.

The joys of guilding with an interior decorator...

/sigh

Aerfen · 03-24-2010, 06:03 PM

This. Is. AMAZING.

PS. Where is this located? I see you are on the Unrest server, and it's an "evil" guild hall...

Brutalicus · 03-24-2010, 09:44 PM

That is really cool you should get bored more often.

Tomorrow · 03-25-2010, 03:30 AM

Jesdyr@Unrest wrote:

Thanks
But honestly it doesn't take long at all. I think I spent about 3hrs but a majority of that was playing around with different items. What is in the pics is about 30-45min of work.The entire dome part was placed by my program. I hand placed the stonework because I wanted a rough look and I figured that was not the final design anyway.
One design had stairs starting on the right side and spiraling around the back. But I could not figure out a way to frame things in without using up a huge item count. As it is that is around 90 items in the pics.
I also made one that started with a bottom row of red marble dividers (like the pic) then red stain glass, then dividers, then blue stain glass. It was too dark so I scrapped it.
What I learned from this is that I need to write more code to make it easier. There are some little things that bugged me. one of which I was able to fix (when you delete all rows then use the spirals or tile creation sometimes it leaves a blank line in the window, I finally found a way to get rid of it).
Anyway .. I will take some screens later that show how to do this. Some of it was guess work

What program are ya using? And where can i get it? )

Teircen · 03-25-2010, 09:43 AM

rofl... I can't count how many times "I got bored ..." has started projects of mine. SMILEY Necessity may be the mother of invention but I do believe boredom must be a very close sibling.

Beautiful work with a stunning effect. Kudos.

Vuurvink · 03-25-2010, 10:48 AM

Beautiful!!!!

Jesdyr · 03-25-2010, 01:19 PM

Tomorrow wrote:

What program are ya using? And where can i get it? )

Mine SMILEY Details here -http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=459923

Donilla · 03-25-2010, 02:42 PM

Awesome. Shouldn't be surprised that the creator of the program would know how to use it to its max potential. Wish I understood it better as I still have trouble getting it to do its spiral or auto things the way I want it to. But I can't give up after this stunning example of the potential.

Rijacki · 03-25-2010, 03:10 PM

Stunning!

Jesdyr · 03-25-2010, 03:33 PM

Donilla@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Awesome. Shouldn't be surprised that the creator of the program would know how to use it to its max potential. Wish I understood it better as I still have trouble getting it to do its spiral or auto things the way I want it to. But I can't give up after this stunning example of the potential.

would it help if I desribed what it is actually doing ?

Center point is x z y (same as loc ingame)

From the center point and adds +radius to X (should be east of center).

If Start angle is not 0 it moves the start point clockwise (counter clockwise for negative values)

It then places an item at this location rotating it if start angle is not 0 (if start is 45 degrees it will rotate the item 45 degrees).

It then takes the total angle (this is how much of a arc you want) and divides it by the number of steps (total items to use). If the total angle is positive it will build the circle clockwise. If you want counterclockwise then make the total angle a negative value.

If Z increase is not 0, and per step is not checked, it will divide the Z increase by the number of steps. if you want to build down, make the Z increase a negative value.

It will move to the next position moving around the center and incrementing the item's angle by the amount figured above and adding the Z increase if asked for.

It will do this for each item.

(I just added some tooltips which will be in the next version)

Donilla · 03-29-2010, 05:52 PM

That might actually help a lot. Being a numbers idiot I'll have to experiment. But what I wanted to do initialy was start at the top step and spiral downwards since I didn't care as much where the bottom step was. The explanation will definately help with that. Thanks!

Jesdyr · 03-29-2010, 06:18 PM

Donilla@Antonia Bayle wrote:

But what I wanted to do initialy was start at the top step and spiral downwards since I didn't care as much where the bottom step was. The explanation will definately help with that. Thanks!

Find the Z value of where you want to start then find the Z value of where you want to end. Put that in the Z increase box and leave "per step" unchecked.

It often takes me a few trys to get it to do what I want where I want. I often will set the name to something like "row1" so I can easily delete those rows and recreate it after adjusting the settings slightly.

suzita · 03-31-2010, 07:53 AM

just... WOW! incredible!

LivelyHound · 03-31-2010, 09:25 AM

Heh, nice work jes SMILEY

Though you shoul dinvert it the back is so much more amazing than the front, but then I love that sort of design.

Jesdyr · 03-31-2010, 10:37 AM

LivelyHound wrote:

Heh, nice work jes Though you shoul dinvert it the back is so much more amazing than the front, but then I love that sort of design.

You cant really invert it so the design shows on the inside since it is an artifact of the overlapping windows intersecting to make the inside smooth. I can bleed some of the edge design into the front (there is a tiny bit already) but it was not the effect I was after with that design. Feel free to stop in to see it ingame -Defenders of Avalon - SFP t1 guildhall. I have made some changes to it .. (kinda looks like a football helmet now)

I have another few layout ideas that umm ..lets just say that if I can pull them off, it will be amazing. Might need to make another utility/script to do one of them.

I have been running into a major issue with making archways. The game does not like certain rotational values and I have been attempting to work around them SMILEY

03-24-2010, 05:02 AM	#2
Mistal Server: Everfrost Guild: Socii Equitis Rank: Legionnaire Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 347	/speechless ok well one word WOW! Ok more words ... stunning.. flawless!... Awesome A perfect example of layouts used to their fullest totally wonderful Jes xxx __________________ Everfrost Server ~ Mistal, Rhya, Rosemarie, Chenille, Duir, Heather, Sunfire, Volityle, Wintersmoon ~ Blind Guardians Test Server ~ Mistal ~ Norrathian Designers Inc (NDI)

03-24-2010, 08:46 AM	#5
Gzelle Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,352	Wow - thats just awesome use of the layouts!!! I'm absolutely floored!! That must have taken so much time, hats off to your patience. __________________ Casee, Skarllet, Abbee, and Gracee - Crushbone Skitle, Gracy - AB

03-24-2010, 09:37 AM	#6
Seidhkona Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,115	/cries Now I have to finally break down and figure out how to use layouts, because I need a grotto for my Shrine of the Rose and that's too perfect! __________________

03-24-2010, 01:46 PM	#8
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Thanks But honestly it doesn't take long at all. I think I spent about 3hrs but a majority of that was playing around with different items. What is in the pics is about 30-45min of work.The entire dome part was placed by my program. I hand placed the stonework because I wanted a rough look and I figured that was not the final design anyway. One design had stairs starting on the right side and spiraling around the back. But I could not figure out a way to frame things in without using up a huge item count. As it is that is around 90 items in the pics. I also made one that started with a bottom row of red marble dividers (like the pic) then red stain glass, then dividers, then blue stain glass. It was too dark so I scrapped it. What I learned from this is that I need to write more code to make it easier. There are some little things that bugged me. one of which I was able to fix (when you delete all rows then use the spirals or tile creation sometimes it leaves a blank line in the window, I finally found a way to get rid of it). Anyway .. I will take some screens later that show how to do this. Some of it was guess work

03-24-2010, 06:03 PM	#10
Aerfen Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Felwithe Freedom Fighters Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 524	This. Is. AMAZING. PS. Where is this located? I see you are on the Unrest server, and it's an "evil" guild hall... __________________ Thank you for giving carpenters building blocks!! - Lady Aerfen

03-24-2010, 03:41 AM	#1
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	And packed up my guildhall .. then played around with layouts for a bit .. Here is the back of it (which you cant really get to)

03-24-2010, 05:24 AM	#3
roterHase Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Switzerland Posts: 225	O.......M........G S P E E C H L E S S FANTASTIC - BOMBASTIC - GRANDIOS !

03-24-2010, 05:35 AM	#4
Eritius Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Fate by Blood Rank: Commander Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 759	Amazing. Now if only there were screenies of the work in progress

03-24-2010, 10:22 AM	#7
Bruji Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 558	AMAZING! Beautiful work. What patience.

03-24-2010, 05:46 PM	#9
Inire Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	Looks great. right up until you are actually in the guild with him. and stuff is spontaneously moving about. got whacked in the head with a [Removed for Content] brick the other day. The joys of guilding with an interior decorator... /sigh

03-24-2010, 09:44 PM	#11
Brutalicus Server: Nagafen Guild: Dark Crusade Rank: General Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 268	That is really cool you should get bored more often.

03-25-2010, 03:30 AM	#12
Tomorrow Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 42	Jesdyr@Unrest wrote: Thanks But honestly it doesn't take long at all. I think I spent about 3hrs but a majority of that was playing around with different items. What is in the pics is about 30-45min of work.The entire dome part was placed by my program. I hand placed the stonework because I wanted a rough look and I figured that was not the final design anyway. One design had stairs starting on the right side and spiraling around the back. But I could not figure out a way to frame things in without using up a huge item count. As it is that is around 90 items in the pics. I also made one that started with a bottom row of red marble dividers (like the pic) then red stain glass, then dividers, then blue stain glass. It was too dark so I scrapped it. What I learned from this is that I need to write more code to make it easier. There are some little things that bugged me. one of which I was able to fix (when you delete all rows then use the spirals or tile creation sometimes it leaves a blank line in the window, I finally found a way to get rid of it). Anyway .. I will take some screens later that show how to do this. Some of it was guess work What program are ya using? And where can i get it? )

03-25-2010, 09:43 AM	#13
Teircen Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 201	rofl... I can't count how many times "I got bored ..." has started projects of mine. Necessity may be the mother of invention but I do believe boredom must be a very close sibling. Beautiful work with a stunning effect. Kudos. __________________

03-25-2010, 10:48 AM	#14
Vuurvink Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Ddraig Tylwyth Rank: Elder Wyrm Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 298	Beautiful!!!! __________________ Vuurvink The'Pocketwarden :: mistress of carpentry and shineys Ritualist Nosha The'Pocketmystic :: creator of fine jewelry Junny Cinna'Muffin :: elbow-deep in dough, baking muffins Syanne Arya'Bella The Bookbinder Goudvink Van'Druivenstein :: always ready to kick some behinds .. and a bunch of other shmoos

03-25-2010, 01:19 PM	#15
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Tomorrow wrote: What program are ya using? And where can i get it? ) Mine Details here -http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=459923

03-25-2010, 02:42 PM	#16
Donilla Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Carnival of Khaos Rank: Ass Tard Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,566	Awesome. Shouldn't be surprised that the creator of the program would know how to use it to its max potential. Wish I understood it better as I still have trouble getting it to do its spiral or auto things the way I want it to. But I can't give up after this stunning example of the potential. __________________ "May the Light stand between you and all the dark places you must walk."

03-25-2010, 03:10 PM	#17
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	Stunning! __________________

03-25-2010, 03:33 PM	#18
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Donilla@Antonia Bayle wrote: Awesome. Shouldn't be surprised that the creator of the program would know how to use it to its max potential. Wish I understood it better as I still have trouble getting it to do its spiral or auto things the way I want it to. But I can't give up after this stunning example of the potential. would it help if I desribed what it is actually doing ? Center point is x z y (same as loc ingame) From the center point and adds +radius to X (should be east of center). If Start angle is not 0 it moves the start point clockwise (counter clockwise for negative values) It then places an item at this location rotating it if start angle is not 0 (if start is 45 degrees it will rotate the item 45 degrees). It then takes the total angle (this is how much of a arc you want) and divides it by the number of steps (total items to use). If the total angle is positive it will build the circle clockwise. If you want counterclockwise then make the total angle a negative value. If Z increase is not 0, and per step is not checked, it will divide the Z increase by the number of steps. if you want to build down, make the Z increase a negative value. It will move to the next position moving around the center and incrementing the item's angle by the amount figured above and adding the Z increase if asked for. It will do this for each item. (I just added some tooltips which will be in the next version)

03-29-2010, 05:52 PM	#19
Donilla Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Carnival of Khaos Rank: Ass Tard Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,566	That might actually help a lot. Being a numbers idiot I'll have to experiment. But what I wanted to do initialy was start at the top step and spiral downwards since I didn't care as much where the bottom step was. The explanation will definately help with that. Thanks! __________________ "May the Light stand between you and all the dark places you must walk."

03-29-2010, 06:18 PM	#20
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Donilla@Antonia Bayle wrote: But what I wanted to do initialy was start at the top step and spiral downwards since I didn't care as much where the bottom step was. The explanation will definately help with that. Thanks! Find the Z value of where you want to start then find the Z value of where you want to end. Put that in the Z increase box and leave "per step" unchecked. It often takes me a few trys to get it to do what I want where I want. I often will set the name to something like "row1" so I can easily delete those rows and recreate it after adjusting the settings slightly.

03-31-2010, 07:53 AM	#21
suzita Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 29	just... WOW! incredible!

03-31-2010, 09:25 AM	#22
LivelyHound Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 523	Heh, nice work jes Though you shoul dinvert it the back is so much more amazing than the front, but then I love that sort of design.

03-31-2010, 10:37 AM	#23
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	LivelyHound wrote: Heh, nice work jes Though you shoul dinvert it the back is so much more amazing than the front, but then I love that sort of design. You cant really invert it so the design shows on the inside since it is an artifact of the overlapping windows intersecting to make the inside smooth. I can bleed some of the edge design into the front (there is a tiny bit already) but it was not the effect I was after with that design. Feel free to stop in to see it ingame -Defenders of Avalon - SFP t1 guildhall. I have made some changes to it .. (kinda looks like a football helmet now) I have another few layout ideas that umm ..lets just say that if I can pull them off, it will be amazing. Might need to make another utility/script to do one of them. I have been running into a major issue with making archways. The game does not like certain rotational values and I have been attempting to work around them