New quest helper is horrible

BabyAngel · 02-17-2010, 12:19 AM

I can't read the font, several others i know are having the same problem that I know of.

You can have all your quests ticked so you just select whats in your current zone, you have to find one to untick and retick the new one.

The old system and text was better, you just clicked on the quest and the helper showed.

Why was it changed?

hansomepete · 02-17-2010, 12:59 AM

Because it's soe's world and they said they wanted it. No reason to fix something that wasn't broken in my opinion. Ton of stuff that they "fixed" for us.

Landiin · 02-17-2010, 01:09 AM

Works just find for me, Check your UI..

Ambrin · 02-17-2010, 01:42 AM

The new system is so much better than the old one. The font is perfectly readable for me and I find the way quests are added or removed to be quite intuitive.

msgnomer · 02-17-2010, 01:46 AM

I have to agree about the text. The default font and/or line spacing makes it more difficult for me to read. I haven't messed around with trying to change the font from the default yet, but my previous experience with trying to enlarge the text font is that it doesn't stick and has to be constantly reset.

I'm not seeing the problem with the quest checking. All of mine are unchecked and I am able to just check the quest I want to display. It's an additional step more than before, but not too much extra trouble.

Eveningsong · 02-17-2010, 02:08 AM

Ambrin@Nagafen wrote:

The new system is so much better than the old one. The font is perfectly readable for me and I find the way quests are added or removed to be quite intuitive.

I have to agree. There could undoubtedly be improvements... that's what /feedback is for SMILEY . And there are some settings in options that you can use to try to make it more helpful for yourself. You can totally turn off auto pinning of quests and moving updated quests to the top of the list if you dislike all that.

moonspell666 · 02-17-2010, 02:37 AM

Love it SMILEY

Armawk · 02-17-2010, 03:02 AM

The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some?

problems:

When there is more in there than fits in the window, it needs an indication that there is content to scroll down to or a scroll bar.

If you delete a quest it is not removed from the helper at all.

GlitterPaws · 02-17-2010, 03:19 AM

I'm liking the new quest helper. Actually turned off the beloved custom UI to see the new changes, and probably some old changes, to the default UI. Pretty surprised at how much I'm liking the default UI.

The new QH is quite handy.

BabyAngel · 02-17-2010, 05:08 AM

I have no custom UI, I am not good at changing that stuff. I noticed in game also some people have no problem but a lot of people can't seem to be able to read the words clearly. It seems blurry and a bit fuzzy.

Is there a way to change the font? I can put up with the checking system, one thing thats really got me a bit grr at the system though, if you can't check all your quests. At about 10 or so it won't allow you to check anymore. (not sure on actual number)

If they jsut added a little box saying "Check All" so you can have all of them selected not just 10 or so, and then added a "Change Font" drop down with the old font in there. It would be really awesome and everything fixed to how it was for those with problems with the change.

All I know is that without my quest helper playing the game is going to be a lot harder, if it was just me i would drop it and go play something else, but soem of my guildies, not to mention my family are having problems also and I group with them the most.

I don't know about all of you but when I play EQ2 I don't play alone. I have around 30 or so quests on the go and I finish them with the people I started them with. EQ2 is great for questing, theres a countless number of them. My journal is full and I am over halfway through 30 of the quests in my journal, would be nice if they were all able to be selected, so when I form that group I won't have to untick something that I might forget to retick, three times since update I thought my quest helper was broken.

Anyway if anyone knows how to change fonts, etc. Can you try explain it to me?

Payneal The Great · 02-17-2010, 05:22 AM

New systems is way better for me, loving having multiple quests up at once, thanks SoE!

Pahya · 02-17-2010, 05:36 AM

Did a little dance when I checked out the new helper/journal. Love it, and perfectly readable for me at 1360 x 768

Autenil · 02-17-2010, 05:51 AM

BabyAngel wrote:

Is there a way to change the font? I can put up with the checking system, one thing thats really got me a bit grr at the system though, if you can't check all your quests. At about 10 or so it won't allow you to check anymore. (not sure on actual number)
If they jsut added a little box saying "Check All" so you can have all of them selected not just 10 or so, and then added a "Change Font" drop down with the old font in there. It would be really awesome and everything fixed to how it was for those with problems with the change.
Anyway if anyone knows how to change fonts, etc. Can you try explain it to me?

Under Options -> User Interface -> Game Windows there are some options to control font smoothing and to use a smaller font. Try changing those to see if it helps.

Previously, you could only see one. Now you can see more than one. That's gotta help, right?

guillero · 02-17-2010, 06:24 AM

Autenil wrote:

BabyAngel wrote:
Is there a way to change the font? I can put up with the checking system, one thing thats really got me a bit grr at the system though, if you can't check all your quests. At about 10 or so it won't allow you to check anymore. (not sure on actual number)
If they jsut added a little box saying "Check All" so you can have all of them selected not just 10 or so, and then added a "Change Font" drop down with the old font in there. It would be really awesome and everything fixed to how it was for those with problems with the change.
Anyway if anyone knows how to change fonts, etc. Can you try explain it to me?
Under Options -> User Interface -> Game Windows there are some options to control font smoothing and to use a smaller font. Try changing those to see if it helps.
Previously, you could only see one. Now you can see more than one. That's gotta help, right?

Yes I love the new system! Great work!

But I can see where some people are coming from tho. The font and color are quite bright and become a focus point on the screen and thus an unwelcome distraction.

I just decreased the brightness in the window options, so the quest helper isn't such a dominant presence on the screen. So that worked for me.

I guess for most people, they just need to get used to it. Before you had the questhelper as little window somewhere high up in a corner, while now with multiple quests checked, it takes up considerable more space in the UI.

Jer

wickermanuk · 02-17-2010, 06:43 AM

It was in WOW therefore it has to be in EQ2, thats how EQ2 development process is going. Battlegrounds were in WOW therefore they must be in EQ2.

guillero · 02-17-2010, 06:54 AM

wickermanuk wrote:

It was in WOW therefore it has to be in EQ2, thats how EQ2 development process is going. Battlegrounds were in WOW therefore they must be in EQ2.

Dude. Give it a rest already! /Facepalm

Battlegrounds weren't invented by Blizzard. So give us a break. As Blizzard copied BG's from Dark Age of Camelot.

Nothing in WoW was original. Blizzard just picked out the best stuff from other MMO's and put it in theirs. That's all.

Jer

Ikke · 02-17-2010, 09:29 AM

wickermanuk wrote:

It was in WOW therefore it has to be in EQ2, thats how EQ2 development process is going. Battlegrounds were in WOW therefore they must be in EQ2.

Please, please, pleeeaassseee go back to WoW if that is how you feel.

Every MMORPG that exists is based on ideas that existed in earlier MMORPG's, in MUD's or in other types of games. The fact that EQ2 got something new does not mean that this is because of WoW, The development team saw a chance to improve the game and did just that. The weird thing is that, when WoW implements something "new", nobody makes remarks like: EQ/DAoC/MUD2 did this earlier.

MMORPG's evolve and change. Deal with it.

Phiyah · 02-17-2010, 09:35 AM

shaunfletcher wrote:

The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some?
problems:
When there is more in there than fits in the window, it needs an indication that there is content to scroll down to or a scroll bar.
If you delete a quest it is not removed from the helper at all.

Yes - it needs a scroll bar - otherwise I think it's a good idea to have several quests up at once.

Seidhkona · 02-17-2010, 09:47 AM

I would expect to see mods for the new quest helper at EQ2Interface.com soon. Keep checking. All of the settings can be adjusted via the XML, so expect to see various mods appear.

Mystfit · 02-17-2010, 09:54 AM

I"m sure it's jsut me being stupid..but...I jsut picked up a rush order writ. I saw it flash in the quest helper but it went away. I had to find it in my journal to see what i needed to make. I couldnt check it to make it show up, unchecked a different quest and then tried to check it but it wouldnt check. Now, I AM using profit ui and if the issue is with that, that's cool. I jsut wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something stupid SMILEY

Wilde_Night · 02-17-2010, 10:00 AM

No, I am having issues with tradeskill writs showing in the new window too. SMILEY Not just rush orders, but regular writs as well.

Shareana · 02-17-2010, 10:43 AM

Mystfit wrote:

I"m sure it's jsut me being stupid..but...I jsut picked up a rush order writ. I saw it flash in the quest helper but it went away. I had to find it in my journal to see what i needed to make. I couldnt check it to make it show up, unchecked a different quest and then tried to check it but it wouldnt check. Now, I AM using profit ui and if the issue is with that, that's cool. I jsut wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something stupid

I am not sure about profit, biit if you open up your journal, there should be places to check along side the quests. Check the ones that you would like to show on your helper....

I am moving this to the Look and Feel forum for now SMILEY

msgnomer · 02-17-2010, 10:45 AM

shaunfletcher wrote:

The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some?

Nope. Don't have anything other than what SOE patches to my system.

What might make the difference in readability between people is possibly some graphics settings. I have it on very high graphics quality and something close to 1600x1200. The text is just as small as before, but got thicker, more closely squashed together.

I haven't played around with finding a way to make it more readable yet, but I'm hoping.

Terron · 02-17-2010, 11:46 AM

Autenil wrote:

Previously, you could only see one. Now you can see more than one. That's gotta help, right?

Not so far. One in that window was enough since I use it for the partiuclar quest I am concentrating on at the time. The quest journal helps me check out any of the other quests I am working on (which has been near the maximum for about 5 years).

But that is insignificant compared to it becoming much less readable.

I play with the default UI on 1920 x 1080 resolution. (My HD TV doubles as my monitor.) Hopefully I will be able to increase the font size, ideally change it back to the old appearance.

Maroger · 02-17-2010, 12:06 PM

BabyAngel wrote:

I can't read the font, several others i know are having the same problem that I know of.
You can have all your quests ticked so you just select whats in your current zone, you have to find one to untick and retick the new one.
The old system and text was better, you just clicked on the quest and the helper showed.
Why was it changed?

I wish they hadn't changed it. It wasn't broken. ANy option to go back to the old system. - FONTS SUCK>

Wilin · 02-17-2010, 12:37 PM

I play on a 24" LCD at 1920x1200 and I love it. I even made the window larger than the default. It is particularly useful when you are in a new area and you get several new quests for that area as it allows you to see all of your objectives for that area at a glance without clicking through the quest journal.

I should also note that I have played several other MMOs that employed this style of quest helper and I found it to be much better than the old EQ2 window.

Dethdlr · 02-17-2010, 12:39 PM

I agree. Why fix things that weren't broken. I used to be able to play these kinds of games on an 8086. Why do I need more hardware to play today's games? >West >South >Put batteries in flashlight Why did we need to add all these graphics things? I enjoyed the danger of being eaten by a grue

Seriously though, I can understand having an issue with the font (although I don't) and wanting an indicator to show when they scroll off the screen to the top or bottom. But come on. Being able to show more than one quest at a time is awesome. Prior to that, you could only see one quest at a time. Think of quests like the repeatables just outside Danak in JW where the quest giver gives you 4 quests at the same time. Prior to this change, you had to keep hitting J to see where you were on the quests. Now, you just pin all 4 to the quest helper and track all 4 at the same time. Vast improvement on the old quest helper window. One of my favorite new features with SF.

PS: Some of those that don't like the fact that they changed it may want to check out Who Moved My Cheese. SMILEY

Detor · 02-17-2010, 12:41 PM

It can take some getting used to for sure. When you are used to it, then you find it really can help you. Take Paineel - I'd go and get 3-4 quests, and finished them all before heading back. The window showing the last few quests I accepted really helped because it reminded me of the multiple things I needed to do in the same area before heading back. The old way of switching between them in the journal and only seeing one at a time would definitely not have helped as much.

Maroger · 02-17-2010, 02:03 PM

It needs a scroll bar -- there is no way to put the quest you want to work on at the top without playing around with checking and unchecking. It creates unnecessary work and should not have been change.

you used to be able to click on a quest in your book and have it automatically go to the top of the quest HElper - NO MORE - now you have to go through the PITA of checking and unchecking stuff.

THIS WAS NOT A GREAT FIX - also having two colors makes it less readable in various zones - really PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD ONW.

Edith · 02-17-2010, 02:07 PM

Phiyah@Antonia Bayle wrote:

shaunfletcher wrote:
The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some?
problems:
When there is more in there than fits in the window, it needs an indication that there is content to scroll down to or a scroll bar.
If you delete a quest it is not removed from the helper at all.
Yes - it needs a scroll bar - otherwise I think it's a good idea to have several quests up at once.

A scroll bar would be very helpful!

I like being able to have multiple quests up at once. I like the change.

02-17-2010, 01:09 AM	#3
Landiin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,749	Works just find for me, Check your UI.. __________________

02-17-2010, 01:42 AM	#4
Ambrin Server: Nagafen Guild: Illuminati Rank: Members Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 391	The new system is so much better than the old one. The font is perfectly readable for me and I find the way quests are added or removed to be quite intuitive. __________________ ___________________________ Ambrin - 92 Monk / 92 Tailor / 320 AA Ambryn - 92 Dirge / 320 AA Visjeer - 92 Necromancer Oryn - 90 Inquisitor

02-17-2010, 01:46 AM	#5
msgnomer Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 825	I have to agree about the text. The default font and/or line spacing makes it more difficult for me to read. I haven't messed around with trying to change the font from the default yet, but my previous experience with trying to enlarge the text font is that it doesn't stick and has to be constantly reset. I'm not seeing the problem with the quest checking. All of mine are unchecked and I am able to just check the quest I want to display. It's an additional step more than before, but not too much extra trouble. __________________ Please visit my dungeons by Hedvika on AB: Hall of Fame: Help Feed the Dragons! (No, you won't be the food!) Look for Poet's Dungeon: The Mad Poet's Release returning soon. ---------- Aluriel's chronicle of a scavanger hunt through 50 player decorated homes and guildhalls:.... http://photobucket.com/AlurielsAdventure

02-17-2010, 02:08 AM	#6
Eveningsong Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,844	Ambrin@Nagafen wrote: The new system is so much better than the old one. The font is perfectly readable for me and I find the way quests are added or removed to be quite intuitive. I have to agree. There could undoubtedly be improvements... that's what /feedback is for . And there are some settings in options that you can use to try to make it more helpful for yourself. You can totally turn off auto pinning of quests and moving updated quests to the top of the list if you dislike all that.

02-17-2010, 03:19 AM	#9
GlitterPaws Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 226	I'm liking the new quest helper. Actually turned off the beloved custom UI to see the new changes, and probably some old changes, to the default UI. Pretty surprised at how much I'm liking the default UI. The new QH is quite handy. __________________

02-17-2010, 12:19 AM	#1
BabyAngel Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 490	I can't read the font, several others i know are having the same problem that I know of. You can have all your quests ticked so you just select whats in your current zone, you have to find one to untick and retick the new one. The old system and text was better, you just clicked on the quest and the helper showed. Why was it changed?

02-17-2010, 12:59 AM	#2
hansomepete Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 229	Because it's soe's world and they said they wanted it. No reason to fix something that wasn't broken in my opinion. Ton of stuff that they "fixed" for us.

02-17-2010, 02:37 AM	#7
moonspell666 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9	Love it

02-17-2010, 03:02 AM	#8
Armawk Server: Everfrost Guild: Nos Es Rutilus Rank: Tirones Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,240	The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some? problems: When there is more in there than fits in the window, it needs an indication that there is content to scroll down to or a scroll bar. If you delete a quest it is not removed from the helper at all.

02-17-2010, 05:08 AM	#10
BabyAngel Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 490	I have no custom UI, I am not good at changing that stuff. I noticed in game also some people have no problem but a lot of people can't seem to be able to read the words clearly. It seems blurry and a bit fuzzy. Is there a way to change the font? I can put up with the checking system, one thing thats really got me a bit grr at the system though, if you can't check all your quests. At about 10 or so it won't allow you to check anymore. (not sure on actual number) If they jsut added a little box saying "Check All" so you can have all of them selected not just 10 or so, and then added a "Change Font" drop down with the old font in there. It would be really awesome and everything fixed to how it was for those with problems with the change. All I know is that without my quest helper playing the game is going to be a lot harder, if it was just me i would drop it and go play something else, but soem of my guildies, not to mention my family are having problems also and I group with them the most. I don't know about all of you but when I play EQ2 I don't play alone. I have around 30 or so quests on the go and I finish them with the people I started them with. EQ2 is great for questing, theres a countless number of them. My journal is full and I am over halfway through 30 of the quests in my journal, would be nice if they were all able to be selected, so when I form that group I won't have to untick something that I might forget to retick, three times since update I thought my quest helper was broken. Anyway if anyone knows how to change fonts, etc. Can you try explain it to me?

02-17-2010, 05:22 AM	#11
Payneal The Great Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 166	New systems is way better for me, loving having multiple quests up at once, thanks SoE! __________________ Dear Devs, please nerf rock.., paper is fine. Yours Truly, Scissors!

02-17-2010, 05:36 AM	#12
Pahya Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 92	Did a little dance when I checked out the new helper/journal. Love it, and perfectly readable for me at 1360 x 768

02-17-2010, 05:51 AM	#13
Autenil Developer Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 298	BabyAngel wrote: Is there a way to change the font? I can put up with the checking system, one thing thats really got me a bit grr at the system though, if you can't check all your quests. At about 10 or so it won't allow you to check anymore. (not sure on actual number) If they jsut added a little box saying "Check All" so you can have all of them selected not just 10 or so, and then added a "Change Font" drop down with the old font in there. It would be really awesome and everything fixed to how it was for those with problems with the change. Anyway if anyone knows how to change fonts, etc. Can you try explain it to me? Under Options -> User Interface -> Game Windows there are some options to control font smoothing and to use a smaller font. Try changing those to see if it helps. Previously, you could only see one. Now you can see more than one. That's gotta help, right?

02-17-2010, 06:24 AM	#14
guillero Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 652	Autenil wrote: BabyAngel wrote: Is there a way to change the font? I can put up with the checking system, one thing thats really got me a bit grr at the system though, if you can't check all your quests. At about 10 or so it won't allow you to check anymore. (not sure on actual number) If they jsut added a little box saying "Check All" so you can have all of them selected not just 10 or so, and then added a "Change Font" drop down with the old font in there. It would be really awesome and everything fixed to how it was for those with problems with the change. Anyway if anyone knows how to change fonts, etc. Can you try explain it to me? Under Options -> User Interface -> Game Windows there are some options to control font smoothing and to use a smaller font. Try changing those to see if it helps. Previously, you could only see one. Now you can see more than one. That's gotta help, right? Yes I love the new system! Great work! But I can see where some people are coming from tho. The font and color are quite bright and become a focus point on the screen and thus an unwelcome distraction. I just decreased the brightness in the window options, so the quest helper isn't such a dominant presence on the screen. So that worked for me. I guess for most people, they just need to get used to it. Before you had the questhelper as little window somewhere high up in a corner, while now with multiple quests checked, it takes up considerable more space in the UI. Jer

02-17-2010, 06:43 AM	#15
wickermanuk Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 141	It was in WOW therefore it has to be in EQ2, thats how EQ2 development process is going. Battlegrounds were in WOW therefore they must be in EQ2.

02-17-2010, 06:54 AM	#16
guillero Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 652	wickermanuk wrote: It was in WOW therefore it has to be in EQ2, thats how EQ2 development process is going. Battlegrounds were in WOW therefore they must be in EQ2. Dude. Give it a rest already! /Facepalm Battlegrounds weren't invented by Blizzard. So give us a break. As Blizzard copied BG's from Dark Age of Camelot. Nothing in WoW was original. Blizzard just picked out the best stuff from other MMO's and put it in theirs. That's all. Jer

02-17-2010, 09:29 AM	#17
Ikke Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands Posts: 95	wickermanuk wrote: It was in WOW therefore it has to be in EQ2, thats how EQ2 development process is going. Battlegrounds were in WOW therefore they must be in EQ2. Please, please, pleeeaassseee go back to WoW if that is how you feel. Every MMORPG that exists is based on ideas that existed in earlier MMORPG's, in MUD's or in other types of games. The fact that EQ2 got something new does not mean that this is because of WoW, The development team saw a chance to improve the game and did just that. The weird thing is that, when WoW implements something "new", nobody makes remarks like: EQ/DAoC/MUD2 did this earlier. MMORPG's evolve and change. Deal with it. __________________

02-17-2010, 09:35 AM	#18
Phiyah Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 137	shaunfletcher wrote: The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some? problems: When there is more in there than fits in the window, it needs an indication that there is content to scroll down to or a scroll bar. If you delete a quest it is not removed from the helper at all. Yes - it needs a scroll bar - otherwise I think it's a good idea to have several quests up at once. __________________

02-17-2010, 09:47 AM	#19
Seidhkona Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,115	I would expect to see mods for the new quest helper at EQ2Interface.com soon. Keep checking. All of the settings can be adjusted via the XML, so expect to see various mods appear. __________________

02-17-2010, 09:54 AM	#20
Mystfit Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,984	I"m sure it's jsut me being stupid..but...I jsut picked up a rush order writ. I saw it flash in the quest helper but it went away. I had to find it in my journal to see what i needed to make. I couldnt check it to make it show up, unchecked a different quest and then tried to check it but it wouldnt check. Now, I AM using profit ui and if the issue is with that, that's cool. I jsut wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something stupid __________________

02-17-2010, 10:00 AM	#21
Wilde_Night Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 1,127	No, I am having issues with tradeskill writs showing in the new window too. Not just rush orders, but regular writs as well. __________________

02-17-2010, 10:43 AM	#22
Shareana Lead Volunteer Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,921	Mystfit wrote: I"m sure it's jsut me being stupid..but...I jsut picked up a rush order writ. I saw it flash in the quest helper but it went away. I had to find it in my journal to see what i needed to make. I couldnt check it to make it show up, unchecked a different quest and then tried to check it but it wouldnt check. Now, I AM using profit ui and if the issue is with that, that's cool. I jsut wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something stupid I am not sure about profit, biit if you open up your journal, there should be places to check along side the quests. Check the ones that you would like to show on your helper.... I am moving this to the Look and Feel forum for now __________________ \|\| Forum Guidelines \|\| Knowledge Base \|\| Tech Support \|\|

02-17-2010, 10:45 AM	#23
msgnomer Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 825	shaunfletcher wrote: The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some? Nope. Don't have anything other than what SOE patches to my system. What might make the difference in readability between people is possibly some graphics settings. I have it on very high graphics quality and something close to 1600x1200. The text is just as small as before, but got thicker, more closely squashed together. I haven't played around with finding a way to make it more readable yet, but I'm hoping. __________________ Please visit my dungeons by Hedvika on AB: Hall of Fame: Help Feed the Dragons! (No, you won't be the food!) Look for Poet's Dungeon: The Mad Poet's Release returning soon. ---------- Aluriel's chronicle of a scavanger hunt through 50 player decorated homes and guildhalls:.... http://photobucket.com/AlurielsAdventure

02-17-2010, 11:46 AM	#24
Terron Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, England Posts: 2,309	Autenil wrote: Previously, you could only see one. Now you can see more than one. That's gotta help, right? Not so far. One in that window was enough since I use it for the partiuclar quest I am concentrating on at the time. The quest journal helps me check out any of the other quests I am working on (which has been near the maximum for about 5 years). But that is insignificant compared to it becoming much less readable. I play with the default UI on 1920 x 1080 resolution. (My HD TV doubles as my monitor.) Hopefully I will be able to increase the font size, ideally change it back to the old appearance. __________________

02-17-2010, 12:06 PM	#25
Maroger Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,313	BabyAngel wrote: I can't read the font, several others i know are having the same problem that I know of. You can have all your quests ticked so you just select whats in your current zone, you have to find one to untick and retick the new one. The old system and text was better, you just clicked on the quest and the helper showed. Why was it changed? I wish they hadn't changed it. It wasn't broken. ANy option to go back to the old system. - FONTS SUCK>

02-17-2010, 12:37 PM	#26
Wilin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,151	I play on a 24" LCD at 1920x1200 and I love it. I even made the window larger than the default. It is particularly useful when you are in a new area and you get several new quests for that area as it allows you to see all of your objectives for that area at a glance without clicking through the quest journal. I should also note that I have played several other MMOs that employed this style of quest helper and I found it to be much better than the old EQ2 window. __________________

02-17-2010, 12:39 PM	#27
Dethdlr Server: Butcherblock Guild: Advent of Valor Rank: Council Leader Fansite Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 673	I agree. Why fix things that weren't broken. I used to be able to play these kinds of games on an 8086. Why do I need more hardware to play today's games? >West >South >Put batteries in flashlight Why did we need to add all these graphics things? I enjoyed the danger of being eaten by a grue Seriously though, I can understand having an issue with the font (although I don't) and wanting an indicator to show when they scroll off the screen to the top or bottom. But come on. Being able to show more than one quest at a time is awesome. Prior to that, you could only see one quest at a time. Think of quests like the repeatables just outside Danak in JW where the quest giver gives you 4 quests at the same time. Prior to this change, you had to keep hitting J to see where you were on the quests. Now, you just pin all 4 to the quest helper and track all 4 at the same time. Vast improvement on the old quest helper window. One of my favorite new features with SF. PS: Some of those that don't like the fact that they changed it may want to check out Who Moved My Cheese. __________________ EQ2U Lead Programmer \|Dethdlr's Adornment Calculator \| EQ2Wire.com Columnist

02-17-2010, 12:41 PM	#28
Detor Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,198	It can take some getting used to for sure. When you are used to it, then you find it really can help you. Take Paineel - I'd go and get 3-4 quests, and finished them all before heading back. The window showing the last few quests I accepted really helped because it reminded me of the multiple things I needed to do in the same area before heading back. The old way of switching between them in the journal and only seeing one at a time would definitely not have helped as much. __________________ Comcast (SMC D3G-BIZ) & Verizon Cellphone (Droid Charge)

02-17-2010, 02:03 PM	#29
Maroger Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,313	It needs a scroll bar -- there is no way to put the quest you want to work on at the top without playing around with checking and unchecking. It creates unnecessary work and should not have been change. you used to be able to click on a quest in your book and have it automatically go to the top of the quest HElper - NO MORE - now you have to go through the PITA of checking and unchecking stuff. THIS WAS NOT A GREAT FIX - also having two colors makes it less readable in various zones - really PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD ONW.

02-17-2010, 02:07 PM	#30
Edith Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Vivid Rank: Raider - Veteran Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 208	Phiyah@Antonia Bayle wrote: shaunfletcher wrote: The new one is MUCH more readable. Custom UIs may be messing it up for some? problems: When there is more in there than fits in the window, it needs an indication that there is content to scroll down to or a scroll bar. If you delete a quest it is not removed from the helper at all. Yes - it needs a scroll bar - otherwise I think it's a good idea to have several quests up at once. A scroll bar would be very helpful! I like being able to have multiple quests up at once. I like the change. __________________ Edith (92 Mystic) Francoise (92 Inquisitor) Polyhymnea (92 Dirge)