Vitality

Keikoku · 02-15-2010, 03:22 AM

Is there really a need for this anymore? Can we just ditch it and make all xp equal to what you'd get if you had vitality? With all the leveling "improvements" that have been made to the game, vitality just seems archaic. Or maybe I'm the only person who creates an alt to actually play them, and doesn't do things like RAF or something silly like that. Anyway, just a thought.

Yimway · 02-15-2010, 01:32 PM

Experience vitality is archaic and the very purpose it was created for doesn't really exist anymore.

In honesty, I don't see any reason not to just remove it. If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less.

Keikoku · 02-15-2010, 07:46 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less.

That was exactly my thought!

CoLD MeTaL · 02-15-2010, 07:58 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Experience vitality is archaic and the very purpose it was created for doesn't really exist anymore.
In honesty, I don't see any reason not to just remove it. If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less.

Perhaps for you, but after level 30 I have never seen it below 50%. It doesn't matter what I do I can't run it out.

Yimway · 02-15-2010, 08:05 PM

CoLD MeTaL wrote:

Atan@Unrest wrote:
Experience vitality is archaic and the very purpose it was created for doesn't really exist anymore.
In honesty, I don't see any reason not to just remove it. If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less.
Perhaps for you, but after level 30 I have never seen it below 50%. It doesn't matter what I do I can't run it out.

Group with me for 30 minutes, it will be gone.

But that wasn't my point. It was created to allow people who play less to keep up in progress with people who play alot more. Fact is now, the leveling path is so freakishly fast, no one really needs a bonus.

Thunndar316 · 02-15-2010, 08:24 PM

It is an incentive to play less, especially on crafting. I will grind out a few levels but when my vitality is gone I hang it up for a week waiting for vitality to return. I refuse to grind for crafting levels with no vitality.

Obadiah · 02-15-2010, 09:53 PM

I have no self control. I like it because it tells me when to stop crafting.

Besides, what would I use my 6-year veterans reward for then?

Keikoku · 02-15-2010, 10:28 PM

Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:

I have no self control. I like it because it tells me when to stop crafting.
Besides, what would I use my 6-year veterans reward for then?

I realize this would make the 5th/6th year rewards useless. But it's not like they couldn't re-purpose them to something else. Maybe a once a week debt forgiveness or once a week free mender. Not like something similar doesn't already exist.

Ter · 02-16-2010, 06:50 AM

Preya@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:
I have no self control. I like it because it tells me when to stop crafting.
Besides, what would I use my 6-year veterans reward for then?
I realize this would make the 5th/6th year rewards useless. But it's not like they couldn't re-purpose them to something else. Maybe a once a week debt forgiveness or once a week free mender. Not like something similar doesn't already exist.

Given how both xp debt and repair costs are a joke already, I don't see why they couldn't just be taken out completly if vitality is taken out.

Brigh · 02-16-2010, 07:24 AM

Your whole premise is based on someone that has adventure / combat experience turned on all the time and grinds alot.

Chan_FeiHong · 02-16-2010, 07:32 AM

It seems some people want it turned on all the time, and others think it should be removed entirely. Lets find the happy medium and leave it as it is now shall we?

Yimway · 02-16-2010, 12:00 PM

Teron wrote:

Given how both xp debt and repair costs are a joke already, I don't see why they couldn't just be taken out completly if vitality is taken out.

While I agree xp debt is noise, repair costs are not a laughing matter. I can easily drop 5plat in repair costs learning a new mob.

Keshkin · 02-16-2010, 02:28 PM

My vote is against removing the vitality bonus. I like knowing that my character is essentially building up bonus XP without me having to be logged in constantly. In general I like the mechanics that close the gap between what the hardcore players earn compared to the casuals like myself (to an extent of course).

p.s.

Please don't mess with my Orb of Concentrated Memories.

02-15-2010, 01:32 PM	#2
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Experience vitality is archaic and the very purpose it was created for doesn't really exist anymore. In honesty, I don't see any reason not to just remove it. If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less. __________________

02-15-2010, 07:46 PM	#3
Keikoku Server: Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 453	Atan@Unrest wrote: If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less. That was exactly my thought!

02-15-2010, 07:58 PM	#4
CoLD MeTaL Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,217	Atan@Unrest wrote: Experience vitality is archaic and the very purpose it was created for doesn't really exist anymore. In honesty, I don't see any reason not to just remove it. If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less. Perhaps for you, but after level 30 I have never seen it below 50%. It doesn't matter what I do I can't run it out. __________________

02-15-2010, 08:05 PM	#5
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	CoLD MeTaL wrote: Atan@Unrest wrote: Experience vitality is archaic and the very purpose it was created for doesn't really exist anymore. In honesty, I don't see any reason not to just remove it. If anything today it serves as an incentive to play less. Perhaps for you, but after level 30 I have never seen it below 50%. It doesn't matter what I do I can't run it out. Group with me for 30 minutes, it will be gone. But that wasn't my point. It was created to allow people who play less to keep up in progress with people who play alot more. Fact is now, the leveling path is so freakishly fast, no one really needs a bonus. __________________

02-15-2010, 08:24 PM	#6
Thunndar316 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,681	It is an incentive to play less, especially on crafting. I will grind out a few levels but when my vitality is gone I hang it up for a week waiting for vitality to return. I refuse to grind for crafting levels with no vitality. __________________ Sleight of Hand is USELESS

02-15-2010, 03:22 AM	#1
Keikoku Server: Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 453	Is there really a need for this anymore? Can we just ditch it and make all xp equal to what you'd get if you had vitality? With all the leveling "improvements" that have been made to the game, vitality just seems archaic. Or maybe I'm the only person who creates an alt to actually play them, and doesn't do things like RAF or something silly like that. Anyway, just a thought.

02-15-2010, 09:53 PM	#7
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	I have no self control. I like it because it tells me when to stop crafting. Besides, what would I use my 6-year veterans reward for then? __________________

02-15-2010, 10:28 PM	#8
Keikoku Server: Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 453	Kurgan@Everfrost wrote: I have no self control. I like it because it tells me when to stop crafting. Besides, what would I use my 6-year veterans reward for then? I realize this would make the 5th/6th year rewards useless. But it's not like they couldn't re-purpose them to something else. Maybe a once a week debt forgiveness or once a week free mender. Not like something similar doesn't already exist.

02-16-2010, 06:50 AM	#9
Ter General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 107	Preya@Antonia Bayle wrote: Kurgan@Everfrost wrote: I have no self control. I like it because it tells me when to stop crafting. Besides, what would I use my 6-year veterans reward for then? I realize this would make the 5th/6th year rewards useless. But it's not like they couldn't re-purpose them to something else. Maybe a once a week debt forgiveness or once a week free mender. Not like something similar doesn't already exist. Given how both xp debt and repair costs are a joke already, I don't see why they couldn't just be taken out completly if vitality is taken out.

02-16-2010, 07:24 AM	#10
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	Your whole premise is based on someone that has adventure / combat experience turned on all the time and grinds alot. __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

02-16-2010, 07:32 AM	#11
Chan_FeiHong Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5	It seems some people want it turned on all the time, and others think it should be removed entirely. Lets find the happy medium and leave it as it is now shall we?

02-16-2010, 12:00 PM	#12
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Teron wrote: Given how both xp debt and repair costs are a joke already, I don't see why they couldn't just be taken out completly if vitality is taken out. While I agree xp debt is noise, repair costs are not a laughing matter. I can easily drop 5plat in repair costs learning a new mob. __________________

02-16-2010, 02:28 PM	#13
Keshkin Server: Unrest Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	My vote is against removing the vitality bonus. I like knowing that my character is essentially building up bonus XP without me having to be logged in constantly. In general I like the mechanics that close the gap between what the hardcore players earn compared to the casuals like myself (to an extent of course). p.s. Please don't mess with my Orb of Concentrated Memories.