How much AA can we spend or gain now ?

Wintersborn · 10-20-2009, 07:12 PM

I did not see and new info on this since the slider bar came out.

1. Can we gain 200 AA at lvl 10+ ?

2. Is there a AA cap anymore 1.5x lvl ?

3. How much can we spend at what levels ?

4. Do we have the same AA limits per tree ?

Thanks.

feldon30 · 10-20-2009, 07:25 PM

PvP or PvE?

Rijacki · 10-20-2009, 07:45 PM

Wintersborn wrote:

I did not see and new info on this since the slider bar came out.
1. Can we gain 200 AA at lvl 10+ ?
2. Is there a AA cap anymore 1.5x lvl ?
3. How much can we spend at what levels ?
4. Do we have the same AA limits per tree ?

All limitations in place between GU52 and GU53 are still in place after GU53. The slider only changed the potential gain of AA, not how they can be used.

If you're on a PvP server or a PvE server, the limitations for level are different but have not changed with GU53.

The limitations on the trees and the requirements for the end points have also not changed with GU53.

Wintersborn · 10-20-2009, 09:32 PM

For PVE only.

I was told that the easiest way to get AA is to lock at 10-14 and get alot of AA since there is a conversion rate that is better at low levels ?

I think you can still only spend 1.5 AA per 1 level right ? I know that at lvl 10 you can get 45? for the title but dont know the max.

Then after you have a bunch of AA banked you can just run dungeons instead of repeat the same old quests over and over and over and well you know.

Any tips on the best way for a non quest lover to gain XP for a alt ?

Rijacki · 10-20-2009, 09:41 PM

Wintersborn wrote:

Any tips on the best way for a non quest lover to gain XP for a alt ?

I am assuming you mean AA XP since that was the rest of your post.

You can get a bonus to AA XP when you mentor another player but only for those things for which you would normally receive AA in combat (such as killing a Named or max adventure level, not sure about the slider's effects).

Lortet · 10-20-2009, 10:07 PM

More specifically

you can get any number of AAxp at any level 10 and up.

PVP you can only allocate 1.5 * your adventure level. I believe if you allocate more they "de-allocate" on logging or zoning - haven't been there to try that.

PVE no level by level limit except up to lvl 70 you can only allocate 50 points in each of the first two pages = 100, then 60? more on the TSO page - as the TSO page allocation is limited by the number allocated on the previous pages.

Aquiring aaxp if you don't like questing - kill things with your aaxp "slider" across to whatever level suits you. Without the slider across you only get aa for most quests (lvl 10 and over, not repeated ones), most lvl 10 and over nameds for the first time killed, discovery, collection hand in's, discovery of certain in game items.

The rate of aa points accumulation is just like adventure xp allocation - the higher you are, the more effort it takes to move to the next point. Therefore a lvl 12 with 5 points will get to 6 points much faster than a lvl 12 on 45 getting to 46.

Wintersborn · 10-20-2009, 10:37 PM

So PVE at lvl 10 you could have 100 AA spent, 50 in each of the two main tree's ?

Only PVP has the spending limit of 1.5x your level ?

Thanks.

BabyAngel · 10-23-2009, 04:21 AM

On a PVP server you can gain any amount of acheivement experience and levels ( Level 58 with 100 something for me right now)

You can only spend 1.5 times you level at Level 58 thats 87

You can only allocate 50 points to the first 2 pages and 100 on the third i think. I am not sure on shadows,

Theres no cap on achievement point gain SMILEY this so you can experience lock and quest every tier

At level 10 you can only spend 15 points but you could earn 100 if you want to.

Level locking though makes a problem with the new slider as you won't get achievement experience if you disable comabt xp with the slider on 50% SMILEY

Pervis · 10-23-2009, 06:11 AM

Wintersborn wrote:

I was told that the easiest way to get AA is to lock at 10-14 and get alot of AA since there is a conversion rate that is better at low levels ?

The conversion rate is stable at all levels, with 350 adventure xp converting to 1 AA xp if the conversion is set to 100.

While we do not have exact numbers of how much xp or AA xp is needed, we do know that its on a curse. Your first AA may take 16 AA xp to get, which would be 5,600 adventure XP, but AA number 200 may well take 16,000 AA XP to get, or 5,600,000 adventure xp when converted to AA xp.

The amount of XP to get an AA is independant of your adventure level, just as the amount of adventure xp needed to get a level is independant of your AA level.

At level 10, it seems most mobs are worth ~100 adventure xp. This means you need 3 and a half kills in order to get 1 AA xp point. Get those 3 and a half kills 16 times, and you have 16 AA xp, which is one AA.

If you are still level 10, and still killing mobs for 100 adventure XP, but you are after your 200th AA, you need a lot more kills to get it. You get your 3 and a half kills to get enough adventure xp to convert to one AA xp point, but you need 16,000 AA xp points, which as stated above is 5,600,000 adventure xp, or 56,000 individual mobs that are each worth 100 adventure xp.

The best thing you can do is level your AA and adventure level up con-currently.

Ghouti · 10-23-2009, 06:46 AM

Wintersborn wrote:

I did not see and new info on this since the slider bar came out.
1. Can we gain 200 AA at lvl 10+ ?
2. Is there a AA cap anymore 1.5x lvl ?
3. How much can we spend at what levels ?
4. Do we have the same AA limits per tree ?
Thanks.

In regard to your questions, most have been answered:

1. Theoretically yes you can reach 200 AA at lvl 10 ... practically no lol but you can reach pretty far but after a while all quests have been done so youd have to grind grind grind mobs.

2. not for PvE

3. you can spend 160 AA between lvl 10 and 70. After you've lvled to 70 you can spend up to 200 AA. So getting more then 160 AA before 70 is possible but you wont be able to spend them yet.

4. before lvl 70 you can only spend 50 AA in the first two and 60 AA in the last. After lvl 70 you can spend 70 AA in the first two trees.

As said its possible and can be fun, after the update i started a new alt who's now lvl 12 with 47 AA. So a ratio of 1:4 which is a lot more then before the slider where it was 1:2 and with effort 1:2,5. Grinding mobs still has effect atm but its noticable less then it used to despite taking on heroic mobs ...

10-20-2009, 07:12 PM	#1
Wintersborn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 92	I did not see and new info on this since the slider bar came out. 1. Can we gain 200 AA at lvl 10+ ? 2. Is there a AA cap anymore 1.5x lvl ? 3. How much can we spend at what levels ? 4. Do we have the same AA limits per tree ? Thanks. __________________ More solo content and Item variations please.

10-20-2009, 07:25 PM	#2
feldon30 Fansite Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,424	PvP or PvE? __________________ .. EQ2Wire.com \| EQ2U - Character, Item, Spell, and Guild Data

10-20-2009, 07:45 PM	#3
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	Wintersborn wrote: I did not see and new info on this since the slider bar came out. 1. Can we gain 200 AA at lvl 10+ ? 2. Is there a AA cap anymore 1.5x lvl ? 3. How much can we spend at what levels ? 4. Do we have the same AA limits per tree ? All limitations in place between GU52 and GU53 are still in place after GU53. The slider only changed the potential gain of AA, not how they can be used. If you're on a PvP server or a PvE server, the limitations for level are different but have not changed with GU53. The limitations on the trees and the requirements for the end points have also not changed with GU53. __________________

10-20-2009, 09:32 PM	#4
Wintersborn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 92	For PVE only. I was told that the easiest way to get AA is to lock at 10-14 and get alot of AA since there is a conversion rate that is better at low levels ? I think you can still only spend 1.5 AA per 1 level right ? I know that at lvl 10 you can get 45? for the title but dont know the max. Then after you have a bunch of AA banked you can just run dungeons instead of repeat the same old quests over and over and over and well you know. Any tips on the best way for a non quest lover to gain XP for a alt ? __________________ More solo content and Item variations please.

10-20-2009, 09:41 PM	#5
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	Wintersborn wrote: Any tips on the best way for a non quest lover to gain XP for a alt ? I am assuming you mean AA XP since that was the rest of your post. You can get a bonus to AA XP when you mentor another player but only for those things for which you would normally receive AA in combat (such as killing a Named or max adventure level, not sure about the slider's effects). __________________

10-20-2009, 10:07 PM	#6
Lortet Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 885	More specifically you can get any number of AAxp at any level 10 and up. PVP you can only allocate 1.5 * your adventure level. I believe if you allocate more they "de-allocate" on logging or zoning - haven't been there to try that. PVE no level by level limit except up to lvl 70 you can only allocate 50 points in each of the first two pages = 100, then 60? more on the TSO page - as the TSO page allocation is limited by the number allocated on the previous pages. Aquiring aaxp if you don't like questing - kill things with your aaxp "slider" across to whatever level suits you. Without the slider across you only get aa for most quests (lvl 10 and over, not repeated ones), most lvl 10 and over nameds for the first time killed, discovery, collection hand in's, discovery of certain in game items. The rate of aa points accumulation is just like adventure xp allocation - the higher you are, the more effort it takes to move to the next point. Therefore a lvl 12 with 5 points will get to 6 points much faster than a lvl 12 on 45 getting to 46.

10-20-2009, 10:37 PM	#7
Wintersborn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 92	So PVE at lvl 10 you could have 100 AA spent, 50 in each of the two main tree's ? Only PVP has the spending limit of 1.5x your level ? Thanks. __________________ More solo content and Item variations please.

10-23-2009, 04:21 AM	#8
BabyAngel Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 490	On a PVP server you can gain any amount of acheivement experience and levels ( Level 58 with 100 something for me right now) You can only spend 1.5 times you level at Level 58 thats 87 You can only allocate 50 points to the first 2 pages and 100 on the third i think. I am not sure on shadows, Theres no cap on achievement point gain this so you can experience lock and quest every tier At level 10 you can only spend 15 points but you could earn 100 if you want to. Level locking though makes a problem with the new slider as you won't get achievement experience if you disable comabt xp with the slider on 50%

10-23-2009, 06:11 AM	#9
Pervis Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,028	Wintersborn wrote: I was told that the easiest way to get AA is to lock at 10-14 and get alot of AA since there is a conversion rate that is better at low levels ? The conversion rate is stable at all levels, with 350 adventure xp converting to 1 AA xp if the conversion is set to 100. While we do not have exact numbers of how much xp or AA xp is needed, we do know that its on a curse. Your first AA may take 16 AA xp to get, which would be 5,600 adventure XP, but AA number 200 may well take 16,000 AA XP to get, or 5,600,000 adventure xp when converted to AA xp. The amount of XP to get an AA is independant of your adventure level, just as the amount of adventure xp needed to get a level is independant of your AA level. At level 10, it seems most mobs are worth ~100 adventure xp. This means you need 3 and a half kills in order to get 1 AA xp point. Get those 3 and a half kills 16 times, and you have 16 AA xp, which is one AA. If you are still level 10, and still killing mobs for 100 adventure XP, but you are after your 200th AA, you need a lot more kills to get it. You get your 3 and a half kills to get enough adventure xp to convert to one AA xp point, but you need 16,000 AA xp points, which as stated above is 5,600,000 adventure xp, or 56,000 individual mobs that are each worth 100 adventure xp. The best thing you can do is level your AA and adventure level up con-currently.

10-23-2009, 06:46 AM	#10
Ghouti Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 192	Wintersborn wrote: I did not see and new info on this since the slider bar came out. 1. Can we gain 200 AA at lvl 10+ ? 2. Is there a AA cap anymore 1.5x lvl ? 3. How much can we spend at what levels ? 4. Do we have the same AA limits per tree ? Thanks. In regard to your questions, most have been answered: 1. Theoretically yes you can reach 200 AA at lvl 10 ... practically no lol but you can reach pretty far but after a while all quests have been done so youd have to grind grind grind mobs. 2. not for PvE 3. you can spend 160 AA between lvl 10 and 70. After you've lvled to 70 you can spend up to 200 AA. So getting more then 160 AA before 70 is possible but you wont be able to spend them yet. 4. before lvl 70 you can only spend 50 AA in the first two and 60 AA in the last. After lvl 70 you can spend 70 AA in the first two trees. As said its possible and can be fun, after the update i started a new alt who's now lvl 12 with 47 AA. So a ratio of 1:4 which is a lot more then before the slider where it was 1:2 and with effort 1:2,5. Grinding mobs still has effect atm but its noticable less then it used to despite taking on heroic mobs ... __________________