EQIII?

[redindus69]

Hello guys, im impress playing this and miss it by four years was hangin out in WoW for sometime til they screwed it up on the last expansion. I like dnd alot and well pvp, wonder if they ever gonna make Everquest III for better quality, IE: models, graphics, realism and more? I also use to play AoC, if you have a high end rig you will be amaze how their graphics is, but they got it unbalance and wasnt happy with it. They kept screwing up the classes, alot of things are out of place and still have bug/glitches ever since i came out (going on one year).

So far i really enjoy playing this, just started not long ago and looking forward playing it for a year maybe more.

[Trellium]

redindus69 wrote:

Hello guys, im impress playing this and miss it by four years was hangin out in WoW for sometime til they screwed it up on the last expansion. I like dnd alot and well pvp, wonder if they ever gonna make Everquest III for better quality, IE: models, graphics, realism and more? I also use to play AoC, if you have a high end rig you will be amaze how their graphics is, but they got it unbalance and wasnt happy with it. They kept screwing up the classes, alot of things are out of place and still have bug/glitches ever since i came out (going on one year).

So far i really enjoy playing this, just started not long ago and looking forward playing it for a year maybe more.

If SOE wanted to do that, they could just put a full dev team onto Vanguard.

[Barx]

IF they are working on EQ3, we wouldn't know about it, at least not for a while.

And to be honest, I don't think they really need to be, not yet. Many folks computers are just now reaching the upper end of EQ2 (even accounting for the relative age of the engine having a big impact there). I'd say any 'EQ3' is at least 5 years in the future, if not more. EQ1 was the more 'hardcore' / difficult game, not long after launch they wanted to make a somewhat easier, more mainstream version and EQ2 was born (with a ~5 year gestation period ). EQ3 would only really take from EQ1/2 share unless it was something way better where it could pull in a lot of non EQ1/2 share.

[Chisa]

Dont think we need an EQ3 yet.  The graphics in EQ2 are still top end MMO in game graphics on the market right now.  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

[Galithdor]

Topics like this always pop up, EQ2 is getting graphical upgrades sorta, so lets no ask for an EQ3 please

[feldon30]

Nebiru@Nagafen wrote:

Dont think we need an EQ3 yet.  The graphics in EQ2 are still top end MMO in game graphics on the market right now.  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

EQ3 is in development. Its existence was leaked at Fan Faire both in the 10th anniversary book and in the EverCracked movie. It was referred to as "EverQuest Next".

EQ2 graphics are hardly the best MMO graphics out there. Comparing it to two games not known for good graphics is kind of pointless. I mean Wow... really? It looks like Crash Bandicoot. Compare EQ2 to Conan, compare it to WAR, and EQ2 graphics fall flat.

Fortunately, EQ2 graphics are being reworked. Already we have the new shadows system which I love and which takes a huge load off the CPU. And Shaders 3.0 is going to make the game really shine -- literally. Objects that are supposed to be metallic, shiny, "wet", reflective, etc. will actually look that way. Objects will properly react to light sources. Nek Forest is just this soupy grey muted look. With Shaders 3.0, if you have a player running through the forest at night, then that player is the only light source and it just just amazing to see the light dancing and lighting up trees, shrubs, the ground, and enemies. Shaders 3.0 are coming to the game in September.

The next thing we might see work done on is the sky/skybox system. Probably the most unrealistic part of EQ2 are the extremely low res blobs of sky. The coloration in Lavastorm is particularly striking, but it's still very low res blobs. Having actual clouds and weather effects would be truly fantastic.

[Barx]

feldon30 wrote:

Nebiru@Nagafen wrote:

Dont think we need an EQ3 yet.  The graphics in EQ2 are still top end MMO in game graphics on the market right now.  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

EQ3 is in development. Its existence was leaked at Fan Faire both in the 10th anniversary book and in the EverCracked movie. It was referred to as "EverQuest Next".

EQ2 graphics are hardly the best MMO graphics out there. Comparing it to two games not known for good graphics is kind of pointless. I mean Wow... really? It looks like Crash Bandicoot. Compare EQ2 to Conan, compare it to WAR, and EQ2 graphics fall flat.

Fortunately, EQ2 graphics are being reworked. Already we have the new shadows system which I love and which takes a huge load off the CPU. And Shaders 3.0 is going to make the game really shine -- literally. Objects that are supposed to be metallic, shiny, "wet", reflective, etc. will actually look that way. Objects will properly react to light sources. Nek Forest is just this soupy grey muted look. With Shaders 3.0, if you have a player running through the forest at night, then that player is the only light source and it just just amazing to see the light dancing and lighting up trees, shrubs, the ground, and enemies. Shaders 3.0 are coming to the game in September.

The next thing we might see work done on is the sky/skybox system. Probably the most unrealistic part of EQ2 are the extremely low res blobs of sky. The coloration in Lavastorm is particularly striking, but it's still very low res blobs. Having actual clouds and weather effects would be truly fantastic.

Well, we don't know what kind of 'development' it is in really. My guess is that it's still in VERY early stages (planning / concept definition / engine-building stages) and like I said above not something we will probably see for several years. If it was any closer than say 2 years away they would probably already be building hype, or at least officially announce it.

[Cusashorn]

I don't see any reason why there should be an EQ3. What is it gonna take place in? Is it gonna be set into the far distant future where all the races on Norrath have adapted to a cyberpunk way of life where they rely on high tech technology or something?

What would the setting be? What time period? Would it branch off the lore set by EQlive? or the Alternate Reality of EQ2?

[Chisa]

feldon30 wrote:

Nebiru@Nagafen wrote:

Dont think we need an EQ3 yet.  The graphics in EQ2 are still top end MMO in game graphics on the market right now.  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

EQ3 is in development. Its existence was leaked at Fan Faire both in the 10th anniversary book and in the EverCracked movie. It was referred to as "EverQuest Next".

I was leaning more towards the popular games.  AoC and WAR are far from the top MMO's worth playing.  Played both hated them.  I also work for a company that deals with popular MMO's and let me tell ya AoC and WAR are dead compared to WoW/EQ2/FFXI.  AoC and WAR do have amazing graphics tho but personally thats all they have going for them.

[Cynziel]

Nebiru@Nagafen wrote:

  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

That's highly subjective. FFXI has the best armor style anywhere, textures are extremely well done considering it dates back from 2002, the characters are alwso very nice except for the humans imo, and to me more pleasing then Eq2. WoW may have sub par graphics but their animation is just great. Eq2 has lovely shadows and they are only getting better, as well as some nice structures and buidlings.

They all have their plus and minuses imo and not one is really that much better then the other. WoW is perhaps the least appealing visually but it's also meant to run on a toaster.... XD

Oh yeah I should add if there is to be an EQ3 I'm all for it. And for the love of all that's good in Norrath get an excellent character modeller this time, so we don't ever have to go through original vs soga thing again and so on!!

[Aera]

How do you know that "EQ Next" will be an MMO?  Also, don't forget that one of SOE's biggest regrets about EQ2 was naming it EQ2.

[redindus69]

Heh im not saying this game or EQII have bad graphics, actually its great i got my setting on maximum. I was just curious if there will be another one that all i ask.

[MurFalad]

redindus69 wrote:

Heh im not saying this game or EQII have bad graphics, actually its great i got my setting on maximum. I was just curious if there will be another one that all i ask.

I was hanging out on WoW too until about just over a year ago when I got bored and investigated EQ2, WotLK and the way Blizzard wanted "everyone must play the same content" dumbing everything down to fit finally buckaroo'd me, kind of happy too since I was missing some good stuff elsewhere

But as for EQ3, my guess is they will, but when you take that MMO's normally take 5 years of development I'd guess we are 2-3 years out for it, and I think EQ3 will be something different in a new version to avoid the problem of competing with SOE's own MMO's, maybe it could be a giant expansion and reset for EQ2, who knows...

But between now and then the EQ2 graphics engine is getting a lot of work as they announced at the recent fanfaire (development on it was started in 1999!), check out this thread, for an ex-wow player like myself the level of developer feedback was refreshing to see, sure we cannot rely on them always having the time to chat, but its great when they do get a chance in between compiles as he has here, only saw one troll in the whole thread too, fortunately everyone ignored it.

Its about 24 pages long and example new pictures start ~page 3 but there is tons and tons of good stuff and ideas for where that dev wants to take the graphics, of course it depends on timescales and the rest of the dev team though

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=454116

(one thing, if you have setting on total max I found that I still needed to go into water to turn some bits up - like make the update per a frame, got some incorrect water shadows otherwise).

[ke'la]

IMO, The next MMO set in the EQ universe is in development, we have seen Job Postings at SoE for a Sr. Producer for a new Flagship MMO title, and the EQ universe is the SoE flagship. Now if they are just a few months ago Hiring a Sr. Producer, that to me says they JUST started development, so we are looking at atleast 2 to 3 years befor anything offical comes out about it, and probly 4 to 5 befor it is released.

[Thunndar316]

I believe EQ3 is in development and has been for a while now.  People seem to forget that companies are always working on the next big thing.  If you think that SOE is just gonna lay back and have us play EQ2 for another 10 years then you are delusional.

I know that when it does come out I will be the first in line to move along.  Especially if it is more like EQ1 in terms of  classes.

[Galithdor]

EQ2 is really EQ3 anyways, Everquest Next might be a ps3 version, if anything i think, not another PC one

[guillero]

Galithdor wrote:

EQ2 is really EQ3 anyways, Everquest Next might be a ps3 version, if anything i think, not another PC one

That would be pretty much suicide, unless it's just a single player RPG version of the EverQuest franchise. That might work.

MMORPG's for console are pretty much FAIL. Time and time again. It requires too much dumbing down, killing pretty much the heart and soul of an MMO.

Unless they can convince the console playerbase to buy a mouse and keyboard. Good luck with that!

Not to mention that the PS3 is coming under more and more pressure, now more and more technical / performance comparison data is leaking out (XBOX360 outperformaning the PS3 by far).

Not to mention the sheer frustration from the Gaming industry, who happily keep producing games for the XBOX360 and happily ignore the PS3. Because of the superior development platform for the XBOX360 compaired to the tedious problematic development platform for the PS3.

Ever wondered why so long after the PS3 release there is still such low amount of games available for the PS3? Exactly!

Not to mention that BluRay isn't gonna help them anymore either, as you can now buy a good and decent BluRay player for a fraction of the price of the PS3.

So people that earlier would buy a PS3 for the BluRay player, now just buy a regular BluRay player instead.

Sony failed misserably with the PS3. And XBOX360 and WII are still going strong and do far better then the PS3.

So if I were SOE I would stick to the PC platform with the EverQuest franchise.

Jer

[Mustang8259]

feldon30 wrote:

Nebiru@Nagafen wrote:

Dont think we need an EQ3 yet.  The graphics in EQ2 are still top end MMO in game graphics on the market right now.  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

EQ3 is in development. Its existence was leaked at Fan Faire both in the 10th anniversary book and in the EverCracked movie. It was referred to as "EverQuest Next".

EQ2 graphics are hardly the best MMO graphics out there. Comparing it to two games not known for good graphics is kind of pointless. I mean Wow... really? It looks like Crash Bandicoot. Compare EQ2 to Conan, compare it to WAR, and EQ2 graphics fall flat.

Fortunately, EQ2 graphics are being reworked. Already we have the new shadows system which I love and which takes a huge load off the CPU. And Shaders 3.0 is going to make the game really shine -- literally. Objects that are supposed to be metallic, shiny, "wet", reflective, etc. will actually look that way. Objects will properly react to light sources. Nek Forest is just this soupy grey muted look. With Shaders 3.0, if you have a player running through the forest at night, then that player is the only light source and it just just amazing to see the light dancing and lighting up trees, shrubs, the ground, and enemies. Shaders 3.0 are coming to the game in September.

The next thing we might see work done on is the sky/skybox system. Probably the most unrealistic part of EQ2 are the extremely low res blobs of sky. The coloration in Lavastorm is particularly striking, but it's still very low res blobs. Having actual clouds and weather effects would be truly fantastic.

Ok first off I question if you've even played Warhammer, I can't personally speak for AoC cause I've never played it, but I've been playing both EQII and War actively and War is no where graphicaly near EQII when you turn the settings up.  I will say it kicks the crap outta WoW visually speaking, but even if you turn War graphics all the way to high end you are still comparably set on 'balanced' in EQII.  Which is no fault of Mythic's, they just have a different engine and the game is more revolved around massive RvR battles and scenarios anyway, which means a lot of bodies and a lot of spell effects.

Secondly as many people have stated there's no evidence to suggest that it follows either timeline of EQI or EQII... IF it even exists, there's been many things misconstrued when it comes to "SOE said so and so..".  And calling it EQIII or EQNext is a pretty stupid concept any, especially after they said they shouldn't have named EQII what it is because it's not a sequel.  No offense but the only thing I consider accurate of your post is that SOE has already released that they are working on things to visually enhance the current game.  Be it the shader 3.0 they are now introducing or the skeletal revamp that got kicked to the curb that they were trying for, there's still very much that can be done for this game before we'd ever need to worry about some supposed EQIII.  Until they come out and say otherwise, or some of those clever people find something on one of those sites that list copywrited and trademarked names that says otherwise, in my humble opinion it's all hype and hogwash...

[Yimway]

I doubt eq3 would be a PC based mmo. 

I would hope they realize it would be redundant to release yet another eq mmo title unless the plan is to unite the 2 current engines into whatever new engine they may be building.

This I could see some merit too. 

We don't need yet another norath pc game segmented off out there.  There just isn't enough eq consumer base to fracture it even further.

[Nolrog]

Atan@Unrest wrote:

I would hope they realize it would be redundant to release yet another eq mmo title unless the plan is to unite the 2 current engines into whatever new engine they may be building.

They should use the Unreal engine.

[Quicksilver74]

feldon30 wrote:

EQ3 is in development. Its existence was leaked at Fan Faire both in the 10th anniversary book and in the EverCracked movie. It was referred to as "EverQuest Next".

I diasgree.  I think you interpretted that scene in the film incorrectly.  I also was there and watched the film, and the scene in question does indeed have a door that says "Everquest next", however when it is opened, you have a brief view of concept art, and I remember that concespt art being very similar, if not the same as the concept art shown for the next Everquest 1 Expansion.  

   Now, Everquest next could mean a new EQ game, or it COULD mean the Next everquest expansion.  I believe that Everquest Next, was referring to Underfoot, the next everquest expansion. 

[Greyform]

Crabbok@Befallen wrote:

feldon30 wrote:

EQ3 is in development. Its existence was leaked at Fan Faire both in the 10th anniversary book and in the EverCracked movie. It was referred to as "EverQuest Next".

I diasgree.  I think you interpretted that scene in the film incorrectly.  I also was there and watched the film, and the scene in question does indeed have a door that says "Everquest next", however when it is opened, you have a brief view of concept art, and I remember that concespt art being very similar, if not the same as the concept art shown for the next Everquest 1 Expansion.  

   Now, Everquest next could mean a new EQ game, or it COULD mean the Next everquest expansion.  I believe that Everquest Next, was referring to Underfoot, the next everquest expansion. 

No I think that is the name of the next EQ game see link:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/sto...tml?story=19260

[Cusashorn]

I still want to know what type of setting a 3rd game would take place in. I don't see a direct sequel to either of the two games happening, and an alternate reality of what is already an alternate reality just screws things up too much.

[feldon30]

I wasn't aware there was any doubt that a 3rd EverQuest game was in development. Crabbok, you doubt my sources? Yep, that's a few quotes out of the last chapter in the 10th anniversary Everquest book that was available at Fan Faire in June. Kind of an old news story, but I digress. There is no doubt it will be a PS3 & PC game, with players able to interact with each other across the platforms. All SoE MMOs currently in development (Agency, DC Universe Online) are PS3 & PC.

[Thunndar316]

As long as they pack in a mouse and a keyboard with the PS3 version.  I don't want the interface dumbed down to Phantasy Star Universe levels just so console players can raid with their dual shock 3.

[redindus69]

What i would like to see, that add alittle taste to the rpg-mmo is ever time we make a character it would have limit sizes. For example, you are tall and slim or skinny and most situations you couldnt wear or carry too much gears because your limit strength of overall looks.

By doing some progress, like hardwork in that fields would increases strength and it will show some. And realise you are not that slim or skinny anymore, more attractive. For each levels it would have pros and cons either you wanna be a fighter you need alot of strength to work on and that would leave other signs untouch. So if this character (fighter) want to learn or cast a spell from a book or scroll, he realise his limit of intelligence is low and some cast wisdom maybe applied. There can be a hybrid but it would leave off the epic parts out or much higher standard.

Funny we see a big ol' troll or orge, they look very strong tank, but they have studies alot in schools in magics. I know there some races are meant to be like that in size, another word it may not be strong or in term of strength, pretty much it flabby fat or belly pot. Their agility would be really awful, couldnt dodge a road apple if someone threw at them.

This would show the status of character's appearance, now im not sure about items such plate armor or thong maybe too small or too big. By working and adjusting weight and masses would be nice, i know this may seem too complex. If you wanna drink booze all day and sitting here playing game all day, that aint going to change much about yourself esp outside life (ingame). Drinking too much ales and such would make the character look alittle overweight, we all know that.

I just wanna share some of my ideas, hope you guys understand this concepts.

[Jovie]

I hope they pull the plugs on both eq1 and eq2 and vanguard and bring a truly innovative norrathian mmo into reality.

This time built for pc's that exist.

[Rahatmattata]

Nebiru@Nagafen wrote:

Dont think we need an EQ3 yet.  The graphics in EQ2 are still top end MMO in game graphics on the market right now.  Far better than FFXI or WoW.

FFXIV will be out next year and has better graphics than EQ2 IMO. Not that I play MMOs soley based on graphics, but I was a big fan of FFXI and played for quite a while (still do occasionally), and if 14 is anything like 11, I'll be canceling my EQ2 sub. If EQ3 was anything like EQ2 as far as difficulty, mechanics, balance, and over-all gameplay (soloing to cap, speed of leveling, everything instanced, no real competition for resources & mobs, etc) I wouldn't buy EQ3.

On the other hand, if FFXIV is anything like WoW or EQ2, then I won't bother and will just keep my EQ2 sub.

[revren]

Hey Hey

I would not be surprised if there is talks of a "next" EQ game.  The MMORPG Genre has changed over the past 7-8 years, and after a few years of real stagnation in MMO's you are staring to see some evolution in the genre.   

I would hope that they would follow the example of SW:KOTOR and set it either 3-5k years in the past or the future, allowing them some leeway on lore.  It seems that MMO with IP's that is are well known , LOTRO , SWG, WARHAMMER , WoW to some degree , and DnD online seem to have issues combing lore that does not read;y fit into an MMO universe. It just leads to false expectaions and restrants on the developers.  

And now for something completly diffrent...

EQ2 i belive represents an old school of thought in MMO's with a smaller and small part of the genre's population want or enjoy. This is not to say that it does not have merits , but one would hope after 20 + years there would be evolution and changes.

SW:KOTOR is taking on a huge task of re-introdusince story lines to the genre.  The Agency , and othe rgames are trying to address the holy trinity by allowing players to step into diffrent roles , I know the new SOE comic MMO is another. I have no idea what FFXIV is gonna be but from the limtied information i have heard it looks like a skill based game w/o class or lvls.  Games like Fallen Earth and EarthRise, are tryign to have a real economy with real crafting and harvesting , a  sand box game simmilar to EVE but set with avatars and not ships (EQ2 crafting is a joke compared to eve, not on time spent but on the real intereaction of crafters and fighters).  All of these games are attempting to think a little bit out of the box.  Aion is doing what WoW did and essentally combing what they Feel are the best parts of MMO's into one universe and adding what they call PVPVE with looks like a return to real contested mobs, while aion is not a new step in the MMO genre it is a refinment.

I do not mention these games to say that they are better, but to point out that times are chaning.

Will EQ2 be here for a while yes, EQ is still around , and SOE keeps the servers up for a long time, Another Publisher would have killed MXO a long time ago. However I do  not belive there will be any surge in new population, and at this point they are battling attrition. What they do have is a relativly loyale population , an IP they maybe more of a detrament then an advantage, and lore.

I know this went a bit off topic at the end. /shurg

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Rev

 

[ke'la]

I would think just the mear fact that a few months ago there was a listing for a Sr. Producer for a NEW Flagship MMO title for SoE, would be enough information to go by to say that SoE is working on "EQ3" though as we all know that won't be the name, personally I hope they don't use the NAME Everquest at all. Just like this game really should be something like Age of Desteny: Norrathian Adventures, or something like that.