TheBrasse Comic: EQII Macros

Brasse · 06-16-2009, 01:42 AM

You all know by now that I have a love hate relationship with Raids. When people insist on making text macros for every action they take, I start leaning more to the hate side...

EQII: Macros

Now you can go on for an hour telling me how vital these announcements are, yada yada...

;-)#

Zabjade · 06-16-2009, 02:18 AM

I did think of sticking psudo-latin for spells on my Paladin and SK but I'll wait until they are at cap if ever. Only text Macro I have on my Monk atm is to tell people that my "Fall of the Pheonix is cast that it has a 15 minute recast (Way too long in some groups) and to hit X to stand (You'd be suprised how few people know that one.))

Gaftep · 06-16-2009, 01:10 PM

I guess I'm 80% with you. There are a few things that I like having macro text for, but overall yes, its just useless spam that really makes people ignore the text channels (I guess with most of the raid or group in voice it doesnt matter).

My coercer used to have a "Mezzing macro..." but when its resisted and I have to hit it again, I bite myself. So I did remove it. The only macro he uses now is for "Mana Flow" just so that when I cast it on whoever, someone else isnt begging me for it right away (something like "Mana Flow to , one minute recast".

My necro has a few, but I do feel its necessary. His macro for Lifeburn does a LOT of spam, since it goes into /say /raid /group so that any available healer can see it and try to save my life (Though the macro specficially says "Let the silly necro die"). Raidwide hearts would be his other one, just so people know to be in range to get theirs, or so other necro's know that my raidwide cast will now be down for 10 minutes.

Short duration buffs I would agree with. My templar has Sanctuary macro'd just so the group knows that its up and they are immune to most effects for that time.

Wilde_Night · 06-16-2009, 03:17 PM

I know of one mage who has a /say and /group text macro attached to every spell he uses. It drives me absolutely batty in raids. It makes me sad that I had to put him on ignore, but I didn't want to hurt his feelings by telling him that he has way too many macros.

Jesdyr · 06-16-2009, 04:00 PM

hehe .. my fav macro I have seen someone use is "I'm pushing a macro!"

As far as Rays ... It does not lower DPS. It is actually a decent DPS spell IF the caster has it at Master level. You also want a macro to give them group about 5sec warning BEFORE you cast it. ... even knowing all this I still hate the spell. It messes me up because then I have to pick up my casting order again which may have changed significantly because of that slow spell !

ke'la · 06-16-2009, 10:03 PM

The only macro I have is my Hate transfer spell, and I only keep it because half the time the Tank still asks me if I put it on him/her.... Plus it is in say, in charactor, and if everything goes right only cast once so it is not too bad.

Spyderbite · 06-16-2009, 10:08 PM

Only macro I got is... "Dispatched! Kick its butt!!!!"

DreadPirate · 06-17-2009, 08:49 AM

/raid I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!!

/gsay I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!!

/tell I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!!

/say I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!!

Especially the ones in /tells.... Why do they need to secretly tell me I am XX number of points stronger, or faster???

Dreyco · 06-17-2009, 03:17 PM

Hahahahahah!

Calthine · 06-17-2009, 04:37 PM

I gave my husband a knowing glance after reading this one SMILEY

Brasse · 06-17-2009, 05:22 PM

And again... I DO know there is a time and place for these text macros, really I do; about one in ten is useful and important to me.

;-)#

ke'la · 06-17-2009, 09:35 PM

Brasse wrote:

And again... I DO know there is a time and place for these text macros, really I do; about one in ten is useful and important to me.
#

I have a question though... is quoting Dark Helmet for my hate transfer macro a bad thing? SMILEY

DthDragon · 06-18-2009, 10:42 AM

It depends on the quote..Which Dark Helmet quote did you use?

Lorzus · 06-18-2009, 10:50 AM

My GF has a macro setup for when she will lifeburn ... she still dies heheh SMILEY

Aneova · 06-18-2009, 12:12 PM

I have my ring of fire set up with a little Johny Cash macro.

Wilde_Night · 06-18-2009, 01:42 PM

Now, my husband does have a special macro for his lifeburn. He'll /r "Krintek is casting Lifeburn, duck and cover!"

Which also has a /t Aeviel "Love! Love! Heal me!!" Having him send that to me in a tell gets my attention with the little tell "pop" noise and he is usually the only necro that survives his Lifeburns. I am a professional necromancer healing warden, don't ya know.

So sending me (a healer) a tell when attached to certain macros is not a bad thing in my eyes, as the text color and noise gets my attention through everything else going on.

Zabjade · 06-18-2009, 02:27 PM

I do admit I do also have ane emote Macro, I play a Monk so I have a macro when I unlaod my AA based 100% double attack saying I have this one. but through the Emote of a flirty female. SMILEY

ke'la · 06-18-2009, 05:45 PM

Halidis@Oasis wrote:

It depends on the quote..Which Dark Helmet quote did you use?

Its for my Hate Transfer... so I'll give you three guesses.

Oh wait I do have one for my Group invis too...cause someone ALWAYS goes out of range or Clicks the Shiny...

Barbai · 06-18-2009, 06:12 PM

I'll admit I have some messege macros myself but only for my mez spell which simply states that I am mezing a particular target, and my maestro buff which lets the nukers do their thing and gives the tank types a clue to get ready for the sudden burst of dmg.

Ilysess · 06-19-2009, 09:33 PM

*shudder at thought of rays*

Although yes it does have the ability to add decent DPS, I really would rather keep my perpetuality running and not have a crucial mana flow cancelled or some other massacre to my casting order.

The worst thing about it, is when you ask someone not to cast it in a raid, and they mouth off about how it increases their parse so too bad...*insert kick jerk from raid macro here*

I guess I just dont see where the thought process was in creating a spell that allows one group member to completely destroy the casting and spell order for everyone else, without any notification...

/end rant

ke'la · 06-19-2009, 11:23 PM

Ilysess@Venekor wrote:

*shudder at thought of rays*
Although yes it does have the ability to add decent DPS, I really would rather keep my perpetuality running and not have a crucial mana flow cancelled or some other massacre to my casting order.
The worst thing about it, is when you ask someone not to cast it in a raid, and they mouth off about how it increases their parse so too bad...*insert kick jerk from raid macro here*
I guess I just dont see where the thought process was in creating a spell that allows one group member to completely destroy the casting and spell order for everyone else, without any notification...
/end rant

I am sorry I don't even raid and I know if you do something that hurts the overall Raid DPS/Survivablity even after being asked not to... you SHOULD be kicked.

06-16-2009, 02:18 AM	#2
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	I did think of sticking psudo-latin for spells on my Paladin and SK but I'll wait until they are at cap if ever. Only text Macro I have on my Monk atm is to tell people that my "Fall of the Pheonix is cast that it has a 15 minute recast (Way too long in some groups) and to hit X to stand (You'd be suprised how few people know that one.)) __________________

06-16-2009, 01:10 PM	#3
Gaftep Server: Everfrost Guild: Blind Guardians Rank: Alts Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gaia Posts: 145	I guess I'm 80% with you. There are a few things that I like having macro text for, but overall yes, its just useless spam that really makes people ignore the text channels (I guess with most of the raid or group in voice it doesnt matter). My coercer used to have a "Mezzing macro..." but when its resisted and I have to hit it again, I bite myself. So I did remove it. The only macro he uses now is for "Mana Flow" just so that when I cast it on whoever, someone else isnt begging me for it right away (something like "Mana Flow to , one minute recast". My necro has a few, but I do feel its necessary. His macro for Lifeburn does a LOT of spam, since it goes into /say /raid /group so that any available healer can see it and try to save my life (Though the macro specficially says "Let the silly necro die"). Raidwide hearts would be his other one, just so people know to be in range to get theirs, or so other necro's know that my raidwide cast will now be down for 10 minutes. Short duration buffs I would agree with. My templar has Sanctuary macro'd just so the group knows that its up and they are immune to most effects for that time. __________________

06-16-2009, 03:17 PM	#4
Wilde_Night Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 1,127	I know of one mage who has a /say and /group text macro attached to every spell he uses. It drives me absolutely batty in raids. It makes me sad that I had to put him on ignore, but I didn't want to hurt his feelings by telling him that he has way too many macros. __________________

06-16-2009, 10:03 PM	#6
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	The only macro I have is my Hate transfer spell, and I only keep it because half the time the Tank still asks me if I put it on him/her.... Plus it is in say, in charactor, and if everything goes right only cast once so it is not too bad. __________________

06-17-2009, 08:49 AM	#8
DreadPirate Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 183	/raid I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!! /gsay I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!! /tell I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!! /say I am agreeing with Brasse completely on this opinion. Please, say no to useless spam!!! Especially the ones in /tells.... Why do they need to secretly tell me I am XX number of points stronger, or faster??? __________________

06-16-2009, 01:42 AM	#1
Brasse TheBrasse.com Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 161	You all know by now that I have a love hate relationship with Raids. When people insist on making text macros for every action they take, I start leaning more to the hate side... EQII: Macros Now you can go on for an hour telling me how vital these announcements are, yada yada... ;-)#

06-16-2009, 04:00 PM	#5
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	hehe .. my fav macro I have seen someone use is "I'm pushing a macro!" As far as Rays ... It does not lower DPS. It is actually a decent DPS spell IF the caster has it at Master level. You also want a macro to give them group about 5sec warning BEFORE you cast it. ... even knowing all this I still hate the spell. It messes me up because then I have to pick up my casting order again which may have changed significantly because of that slow spell !

06-16-2009, 10:08 PM	#7
Spyderbite Server: Venekor Guild: Dark Vengeance Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,262	Only macro I got is... "Dispatched! Kick its butt!!!!"

06-17-2009, 03:17 PM	#9
Dreyco Archive of Ik Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,485	Hahahahahah! __________________ Grand Historian of The Archive of Ik

06-17-2009, 04:37 PM	#10
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	I gave my husband a knowing glance after reading this one __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

06-17-2009, 05:22 PM	#11
Brasse TheBrasse.com Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 161	And again... I DO know there is a time and place for these text macros, really I do; about one in ten is useful and important to me. ;-)#

06-17-2009, 09:35 PM	#12
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Brasse wrote: And again... I DO know there is a time and place for these text macros, really I do; about one in ten is useful and important to me. # I have a question though... is quoting Dark Helmet for my hate transfer macro a bad thing? __________________

06-18-2009, 10:42 AM	#13
DthDragon Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 11	It depends on the quote..Which Dark Helmet quote did you use?

06-18-2009, 10:50 AM	#14
Lorzus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 245	My GF has a macro setup for when she will lifeburn ... she still dies heheh __________________ Aldia 80 Ranger /Sanjii 80 Coercer /Lorzus 80 Guardian

06-18-2009, 12:12 PM	#15
Aneova Server: Kithicor Guild: Masters of the Universe Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,027	I have my ring of fire set up with a little Johny Cash macro. __________________ http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=438341 Originally Posted by Smed: I've been a regular lurker on this site for a while but I wanted to step in here and dispel something that's just plain not true - I don't have my name highlighted here, but anyone that doubts it's me can email me at [email protected] and I'll happily reply. We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. In any event, I wanted to stop in and at least set the record straight - you aren't going to be seeing RMT allowed on the non-exchange enabled servers. John Smedley President, Sony Online Entertainment

06-18-2009, 01:42 PM	#16
Wilde_Night Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 1,127	Now, my husband does have a special macro for his lifeburn. He'll /r "Krintek is casting Lifeburn, duck and cover!" Which also has a /t Aeviel "Love! Love! Heal me!!" Having him send that to me in a tell gets my attention with the little tell "pop" noise and he is usually the only necro that survives his Lifeburns. I am a professional necromancer healing warden, don't ya know. So sending me (a healer) a tell when attached to certain macros is not a bad thing in my eyes, as the text color and noise gets my attention through everything else going on. __________________

06-18-2009, 02:27 PM	#17
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	I do admit I do also have ane emote Macro, I play a Monk so I have a macro when I unlaod my AA based 100% double attack saying I have this one. but through the Emote of a flirty female. __________________

06-18-2009, 05:45 PM	#18
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Halidis@Oasis wrote: It depends on the quote..Which Dark Helmet quote did you use? Its for my Hate Transfer... so I'll give you three guesses. Oh wait I do have one for my Group invis too...cause someone ALWAYS goes out of range or Clicks the Shiny... __________________

06-18-2009, 06:12 PM	#19
Barbai Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 724	I'll admit I have some messege macros myself but only for my mez spell which simply states that I am mezing a particular target, and my maestro buff which lets the nukers do their thing and gives the tank types a clue to get ready for the sudden burst of dmg. __________________

06-19-2009, 09:33 PM	#20
Ilysess Server: Venekor TGN Stratics Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 22	shudder at thought of rays Although yes it does have the ability to add decent DPS, I really would rather keep my perpetuality running and not have a crucial mana flow cancelled or some other massacre to my casting order. The worst thing about it, is when you ask someone not to cast it in a raid, and they mouth off about how it increases their parse so too bad...insert kick jerk from raid macro here I guess I just dont see where the thought process was in creating a spell that allows one group member to completely destroy the casting and spell order for everyone else, without any notification... /end rant

06-19-2009, 11:23 PM	#21
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Ilysess@Venekor wrote: shudder at thought of rays Although yes it does have the ability to add decent DPS, I really would rather keep my perpetuality running and not have a crucial mana flow cancelled or some other massacre to my casting order. The worst thing about it, is when you ask someone not to cast it in a raid, and they mouth off about how it increases their parse so too bad...insert kick jerk from raid macro here I guess I just dont see where the thought process was in creating a spell that allows one group member to completely destroy the casting and spell order for everyone else, without any notification... /end rant I am sorry I don't even raid and I know if you do something that hurts the overall Raid DPS/Survivablity even after being asked not to... you SHOULD be kicked. __________________