Wu's enlightend chestwraps still have 20 crit mit

Torque89 · 04-01-2009, 11:44 AM

all the other avatar bp's have 40 crit mit this one still has 20 crit mit on it (wu's enlightend chestwraps)

Torque89 · 04-02-2009, 10:37 AM

i know im am one of very few to even have this but please look at it

Couching · 04-02-2009, 11:22 AM

There were two changes of avatar gear on the test server.

Most were redone to its origional form except wu's enlightend chestwraps.

Please fix it, thank you.

Couching · 04-07-2009, 12:42 PM

It's not fixed in today's hotfix (4/7).

Can we get it fixed please? thanks.

Zeenon13 · 04-13-2009, 02:25 PM

please fix

Couching · 04-14-2009, 03:14 PM

It's still not fixed in today's hotfix.

Please fix it.

Zeenon13 · 04-15-2009, 08:33 PM

Still broken

circusgirl · 04-16-2009, 05:21 AM

Yeah, still broken, and an obvious mistake that just wasn't corrected when they undid the nerfs to the rest of avatar gear. Please fix this!

Quicksilver74 · 04-16-2009, 11:51 AM

Still broken! Please fix!

Zeenon13 · 04-16-2009, 06:12 PM

broken broken broken

Gungo · 04-16-2009, 09:00 PM

Seriously fix this.

and you should change the proc on this bp and the Valor bp to 10% physical damage reduction.

Also you should fix the crappy brawler avatar fist to gain the mitigation proc that is currently on the wu's bp. While also putting on like 10% deflection chance or 5% riposte chance.

Zeenon13 · 04-17-2009, 12:22 PM

Yea I got the avatar brawler weapon last night and it went straight into my bags, never to be used. Good weapon amirite?

Quicksilver74 · 04-20-2009, 11:04 AM

Tomorrow is Tuesday, and would be a fantastic day to fix this BP! I'm just saying...

Couching · 04-21-2009, 12:54 PM

Still broken after today's hotfix. I started to wonder how hard to fix an item that is broken....

circusgirl · 04-23-2009, 11:37 AM

Still broken and no reply...can we please get this fixed?

Quicksilver74 · 04-23-2009, 04:34 PM

I know you guys have alot of things to fix, just hope you haven't forgotten about this item. Thanks!

Couching · 05-01-2009, 05:11 PM

Bump, it's still not fixed.

Zeenon13 · 05-05-2009, 04:56 PM

This is hilarious. 5 weeks and someone cant change the number 20 to 40 in a line of code. Amazing.

andurilh · 05-05-2009, 06:33 PM

Brawler item.. no suprise

Too bad it isn't both the brawler item and the assassin BP...

Couching · 05-06-2009, 01:21 AM

Zeenon13 wrote:

This is hilarious. 5 weeks and someone cant change the number 20 to 40 in a line of code. Amazing.

Agree. How hard is it to change the number 20 to 40 in a line of code?

Lothlo · 05-06-2009, 02:03 AM

If you look at all the other bp's that drop off of the Avatar's, yes they all have +40 critical mitigation, however Wu's Enlightened Chestwraps is the only bp that has +150 combat art damage, the other ones have +10 to +15 to combat art damage. I would guess that the critical mitigation is lower on the Wu's because of the off set to combat art damage. So it might not be broken from that point of view, but more of a give and take (or balance if you like) situation.

Any thoughts on this?

Gaige · 05-06-2009, 03:57 AM

Lothlo wrote:

If you look at all the other bp's that drop off of the Avatar's, yes they all have +40 critical mitigation, however Wu's Enlightened Chestwraps is the only bp that has +150 combat art damage, the other ones have +10 to +15 to combat art damage. I would guess that the critical mitigation is lower on the Wu's because of the off set to combat art damage. So it might not be broken from that point of view, but more of a give and take (or balance if you like) situation.
Any thoughts on this?

Uh, most others have +15 BASE CA or Spell Damage. The 150 CA damage is not the same as BASE CA damage. So no, that isn't why it has half the crit mit. It has half of the crit mit because it's broken.

Lothlo · 05-06-2009, 04:45 AM

Taking a look at the other bp's that drop off the various Avatar's of "so & so", I can't see any stats that grant + to Base CA, only +CA. perhaps I am looking at the wrong information. The only BASE amount I can see if the BASE TAUNT amount.

Looking at the Wu's again, there are some added +10 agression, +15 deflection. Again these aren't found on other bps that are similar, so these could possibly limit the amount of critical mitigation on this piece from a developers point of view. I know that none of these are exactly the same as having the full +40 crit mitigation as the other bp's, but having a lower crit mitigation could be justified.

Couching · 05-06-2009, 11:09 AM

Lothlo wrote:

Taking a look at the other bp's that drop off the various Avatar's of "so & so", I can't see any stats that grant + to Base CA, only +CA. perhaps I am looking at the wrong information. The only BASE amount I can see if the BASE TAUNT amount.
Looking at the Wu's again, there are some added +10 agression, +15 deflection. Again these aren't found on other bps that are similar, so these could possibly limit the amount of critical mitigation on this piece from a developers point of view. I know that none of these are exactly the same as having the full +40 crit mitigation as the other bp's, but having a lower crit mitigation could be justified.

Wrong.

Wu's chestwrap had 40 crit mit as other avatar bp before soe nerfed all avatar loots.

However, soe promised to revert those nerf and missed to revert wu's bp.

Soe needs to revert wu's bp to its original status as other avatar loots before the nerf.

Lothlo · 05-06-2009, 12:25 PM

If you do want them to revert the Wu's bp back to what it was before, they will also have to remove the +10 aggression. That stat wasn't on the bp orginally, but after they changed and then subsequently reverted back, that stat made it onto the Wu's bp. Would anyone be angry or upset if SOE removed the aggression and re-added the missing +20 critical mitigation?

Couching · 05-06-2009, 12:32 PM

Lothlo wrote:

If you do want them to revert the Wu's bp back to what it was before, they will also have to remove the +10 aggression. That stat wasn't on the bp orginally, but after they changed and then subsequently reverted back, that stat made it onto the Wu's bp. Would anyone be angry or upset if SOE removed the aggression and re-added the missing +20 critical mitigation?

It doesn't matter if it is useful or not. It's SoE's promise to revert all nerf of avatar loots and they should do it.

Even if +10 aggression was useful, wu's bp should be reverted back to its original status.

So, to answer your question, no body cares +10 aggression. Just roll back to it's original status is fine.

Couching · 05-06-2009, 12:33 PM

err..double posts.

Gaige · 05-06-2009, 02:09 PM

Lothlo wrote:

Taking a look at the other bp's that drop off the various Avatar's of "so & so", I can't see any stats that grant + to Base CA, only +CA. perhaps I am looking at the wrong information. The only BASE amount I can see if the BASE TAUNT amount.

You are looking at the wrong information.

Silerua · 05-06-2009, 02:15 PM

I don't know what these enlightened chestwraps are, but I did want to pop in to say -- perhaps it's not as easy as changing a number in a line of code. Unless any of you have seen the code to EQ2 and know for certain it's just that simple, then don't make assumptions... d: It might be, it might not -- we don't know.

Okay, carry on *ducks and hides*

circusgirl · 05-06-2009, 02:30 PM

Eh, I honestly don't think its that hard--items fixes seem to go in pretty quick usually. I know Kander basically fixed a dozen or so items to give them +crushing in about a day's time-span, and the same is true of all the additions of deflection chance to various procs and tank items. I think the biggest problem is that they have a long list of things to do, so even if its really only a 10 minute fix, they tend to either go through the twenty or thirty other things on their to-do list first or they're waiting until its "looking at avatar gear time" at which point they'll fix all the avatar gear.

Brawler avatar gear itemization fixes:

Justic charm needs deflection chanceWu's enlightened chestwraps need 40 critmitBrawler weapon needs a SERIOUS upgrade to defensive capabilities.

04-01-2009, 11:44 AM	#1
Torque89 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	all the other avatar bp's have 40 crit mit this one still has 20 crit mit on it (wu's enlightend chestwraps) __________________

04-02-2009, 10:37 AM	#2
Torque89 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	i know im am one of very few to even have this but please look at it __________________

05-06-2009, 01:21 AM	#20
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	Zeenon13 wrote: This is hilarious. 5 weeks and someone cant change the number 20 to 40 in a line of code. Amazing. Agree. How hard is it to change the number 20 to 40 in a line of code?

05-06-2009, 03:57 AM	#22
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Lothlo wrote: If you look at all the other bp's that drop off of the Avatar's, yes they all have +40 critical mitigation, however Wu's Enlightened Chestwraps is the only bp that has +150 combat art damage, the other ones have +10 to +15 to combat art damage. I would guess that the critical mitigation is lower on the Wu's because of the off set to combat art damage. So it might not be broken from that point of view, but more of a give and take (or balance if you like) situation. Any thoughts on this? Uh, most others have +15 BASE CA or Spell Damage. The 150 CA damage is not the same as BASE CA damage. So no, that isn't why it has half the crit mit. It has half of the crit mit because it's broken. __________________

05-06-2009, 11:09 AM	#24
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	Lothlo wrote: Taking a look at the other bp's that drop off the various Avatar's of "so & so", I can't see any stats that grant + to Base CA, only +CA. perhaps I am looking at the wrong information. The only BASE amount I can see if the BASE TAUNT amount. Looking at the Wu's again, there are some added +10 agression, +15 deflection. Again these aren't found on other bps that are similar, so these could possibly limit the amount of critical mitigation on this piece from a developers point of view. I know that none of these are exactly the same as having the full +40 crit mitigation as the other bp's, but having a lower crit mitigation could be justified. Wrong. Wu's chestwrap had 40 crit mit as other avatar bp before soe nerfed all avatar loots. However, soe promised to revert those nerf and missed to revert wu's bp. Soe needs to revert wu's bp to its original status as other avatar loots before the nerf.

04-02-2009, 11:22 AM	#3
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	There were two changes of avatar gear on the test server. Most were redone to its origional form except wu's enlightend chestwraps. Please fix it, thank you.

04-07-2009, 12:42 PM	#4
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	It's not fixed in today's hotfix (4/7). Can we get it fixed please? thanks.

04-13-2009, 02:25 PM	#5
Zeenon13 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14	please fix

04-14-2009, 03:14 PM	#6
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	It's still not fixed in today's hotfix. Please fix it.

04-15-2009, 08:33 PM	#7
Zeenon13 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14	Still broken

04-16-2009, 05:21 AM	#8
circusgirl Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,424	Yeah, still broken, and an obvious mistake that just wasn't corrected when they undid the nerfs to the rest of avatar gear. Please fix this!

04-16-2009, 11:51 AM	#9
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	Still broken! Please fix!

04-16-2009, 06:12 PM	#10
Zeenon13 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14	broken broken broken

04-16-2009, 09:00 PM	#11
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	Seriously fix this. and you should change the proc on this bp and the Valor bp to 10% physical damage reduction. Also you should fix the crappy brawler avatar fist to gain the mitigation proc that is currently on the wu's bp. While also putting on like 10% deflection chance or 5% riposte chance.

04-17-2009, 12:22 PM	#12
Zeenon13 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14	Yea I got the avatar brawler weapon last night and it went straight into my bags, never to be used. Good weapon amirite?

04-20-2009, 11:04 AM	#13
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	Tomorrow is Tuesday, and would be a fantastic day to fix this BP! I'm just saying...

04-21-2009, 12:54 PM	#14
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	Still broken after today's hotfix. I started to wonder how hard to fix an item that is broken....

04-23-2009, 11:37 AM	#15
circusgirl Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,424	Still broken and no reply...can we please get this fixed?

04-23-2009, 04:34 PM	#16
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	I know you guys have alot of things to fix, just hope you haven't forgotten about this item. Thanks!

05-01-2009, 05:11 PM	#17
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	Bump, it's still not fixed.

05-05-2009, 04:56 PM	#18
Zeenon13 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14	This is hilarious. 5 weeks and someone cant change the number 20 to 40 in a line of code. Amazing.

05-05-2009, 06:33 PM	#19
andurilh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	Brawler item.. no suprise Too bad it isn't both the brawler item and the assassin BP...

05-06-2009, 02:03 AM	#21
Lothlo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	If you look at all the other bp's that drop off of the Avatar's, yes they all have +40 critical mitigation, however Wu's Enlightened Chestwraps is the only bp that has +150 combat art damage, the other ones have +10 to +15 to combat art damage. I would guess that the critical mitigation is lower on the Wu's because of the off set to combat art damage. So it might not be broken from that point of view, but more of a give and take (or balance if you like) situation. Any thoughts on this?

05-06-2009, 04:45 AM	#23
Lothlo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Taking a look at the other bp's that drop off the various Avatar's of "so & so", I can't see any stats that grant + to Base CA, only +CA. perhaps I am looking at the wrong information. The only BASE amount I can see if the BASE TAUNT amount. Looking at the Wu's again, there are some added +10 agression, +15 deflection. Again these aren't found on other bps that are similar, so these could possibly limit the amount of critical mitigation on this piece from a developers point of view. I know that none of these are exactly the same as having the full +40 crit mitigation as the other bp's, but having a lower crit mitigation could be justified.

05-06-2009, 12:25 PM	#25
Lothlo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	If you do want them to revert the Wu's bp back to what it was before, they will also have to remove the +10 aggression. That stat wasn't on the bp orginally, but after they changed and then subsequently reverted back, that stat made it onto the Wu's bp. Would anyone be angry or upset if SOE removed the aggression and re-added the missing +20 critical mitigation?

05-06-2009, 12:32 PM	#26
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	Lothlo wrote: If you do want them to revert the Wu's bp back to what it was before, they will also have to remove the +10 aggression. That stat wasn't on the bp orginally, but after they changed and then subsequently reverted back, that stat made it onto the Wu's bp. Would anyone be angry or upset if SOE removed the aggression and re-added the missing +20 critical mitigation? It doesn't matter if it is useful or not. It's SoE's promise to revert all nerf of avatar loots and they should do it. Even if +10 aggression was useful, wu's bp should be reverted back to its original status. So, to answer your question, no body cares +10 aggression. Just roll back to it's original status is fine.

05-06-2009, 12:33 PM	#27
Couching Server: Crushbone Guild: Pwn Pwn Pwn Rank: CEO Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,370	err..double posts.

05-06-2009, 02:09 PM	#28
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Lothlo wrote: Taking a look at the other bp's that drop off the various Avatar's of "so & so", I can't see any stats that grant + to Base CA, only +CA. perhaps I am looking at the wrong information. The only BASE amount I can see if the BASE TAUNT amount. You are looking at the wrong information. __________________

05-06-2009, 02:15 PM	#29
Silerua Lord Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 262	I don't know what these enlightened chestwraps are, but I did want to pop in to say -- perhaps it's not as easy as changing a number in a line of code. Unless any of you have seen the code to EQ2 and know for certain it's just that simple, then don't make assumptions... d: It might be, it might not -- we don't know. Okay, carry on ducks and hides

05-06-2009, 02:30 PM	#30
circusgirl Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,424	Eh, I honestly don't think its that hard--items fixes seem to go in pretty quick usually. I know Kander basically fixed a dozen or so items to give them +crushing in about a day's time-span, and the same is true of all the additions of deflection chance to various procs and tank items. I think the biggest problem is that they have a long list of things to do, so even if its really only a 10 minute fix, they tend to either go through the twenty or thirty other things on their to-do list first or they're waiting until its "looking at avatar gear time" at which point they'll fix all the avatar gear. Brawler avatar gear itemization fixes: Justic charm needs deflection chanceWu's enlightened chestwraps need 40 critmitBrawler weapon needs a SERIOUS upgrade to defensive capabilities.