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Unread 03-31-2009, 05:39 PM   #1
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after update... killing champions and dreadnaughts gives me no infamy.. [Removed for Content]?

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Unread 03-31-2009, 05:51 PM   #2
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ITS fame Recession, after all these year of fame inflation the fame system has finnaly gone into recession.

No worrys tho, I hear SOE has a ballout INC. Overseer title for all.......

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Unread 03-31-2009, 06:32 PM   #3
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Dunno if they posted the updated, fixed infamy system already, but i've not lost fame yet, and ive even gained a little from dread/champ/general kills on my dread.

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Unread 03-31-2009, 07:04 PM   #4
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It seems exceedingly random at the moment. You can attack someone the same title range as you and get no fame. Under near exact circumstances, you can also not get fame.

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Unread 03-31-2009, 07:22 PM   #5
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sounds like the perfect time for all the hunters to go die a lot... and be general by the end of the night.. SMILEY

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Unread 03-31-2009, 08:03 PM   #6
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at least they finally fixed the OP-easymode warden epic .. one thing they got right SMILEY

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Unread 03-31-2009, 09:34 PM   #7
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Corvena@Venekor wrote:

after update... killing champions and dreadnaughts gives me no infamy.. [Removed for Content]?

What rank are you?  You should only get infamy from the same rank or one above or below you. The data for that part looks correct.  Otherwise it might be trying to add 0 in some cases which is a result of the bug being fixed tomorrow.

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Unread 03-31-2009, 09:52 PM   #8
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I'm losing fame for killing people one rank below me. Just fyi. SMILEYHope that's part of the fix tomorrow too!

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Unread 03-31-2009, 10:57 PM   #9
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Aeralik wrote:

Corvena@Venekor wrote:

after update... killing champions and dreadnaughts gives me no infamy.. [Removed for Content]?

What rank are you?  You should only get infamy from the same rank or one above or below you. The data for that part looks correct.  Otherwise it might be trying to add 0 in some cases which is a result of the bug being fixed tomorrow.

dreadnaught... ive killed many many champs and dreadnaughts and gained noting.. i did kill a general and get infamy tho

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Unread 04-01-2009, 12:15 AM   #10
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.. and i lost infamy killing a champ too, awesome.. he was the one attacking me also

(1238555392)[Wed Apr 01 05:09:52 2009] You convert experience into achievement experience!(1238555392)[Wed Apr 01 05:09:52 2009] You gain 3687 status!  (1238555392)[Wed Apr 01 05:09:52 2009] Your guild has received 368 status!(1238555392)[Wed Apr 01 05:09:52 2009] Your infamy has been decreased.

i think we would all like a clarification of the pvp system as it is now and why this brainless skillless, no-risk pvp should be fun?

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Unread 04-01-2009, 12:44 AM   #11
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If you guys really wanted RISK you would have been asking for a system that allowed any lower title person take fame from a higher titled person. But you Masters and Overseers didn't want risk, you wanted the freedom to feed off the lower titles without risk.

The perfect system (if you truly wanted risk) would have been one that allowed a Hunter to take fame from anyone higher title, even an Overseer, and the only way to gain fame is by killing someone higher title than you. That would have been a system worthy of "this risk" you speak of.

You didn't like risk, you liked sitting safely in immunity, or safely watching track, and evacing from risk while you waited for your next gank.

Poetic Justice.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 01:03 AM   #12
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Aeralik wrote:

Corvena@Venekor wrote:

after update... killing champions and dreadnaughts gives me no infamy.. [Removed for Content]?

What rank are you?  You should only get infamy from the same rank or one above or below you. The data for that part looks correct.  Otherwise it might be trying to add 0 in some cases which is a result of the bug being fixed tomorrow.

Right now after a couple hundred kills today I only gain fame from killing someone 1 title above mine. I havent lost it yet but some are losing fame from killing someone 1 title less.

Even if you fix the losing part we still arent gaining as we should from even and lower con titles only people with 1 title about give fame atm, but it seems balenced because people are pvp'n soo much right now it kinda throttles the masive fame gains.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 04:27 AM   #13
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With all of the pvp I did today, I managed to only die twice.

I lost infamy 8 times though.

It seems every time I killed someone who was dread (I am general) I lost infamy.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 06:07 AM   #14
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erm, so far this update sounds awesome /sarcasm off. I am just getting the patch now but from what i have read this seems like a total joke! u loose infamy for killing someone whos a lower title? that seems strange! and people still loosing infamy? [Removed for Content] sony!

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Unread 04-01-2009, 06:50 AM   #15
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I killed lots of ppl in my fame range and only got fame a few times from higher ranked players. I did not notice fame loss when killing ppl, but I admit I was not paying much attention though as I did not expect it (if I kill a hunter I don't bother looking for the earn/loose fame message). Well this update seems F U B A R so far, just as expected.

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Ah also right when I logged on I got deranked due to infamy loss lol ! Thanks fame decay.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 12:11 PM   #16
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I believe: 1) Fame decay when offline should be disabled. 2) Killing any player with health >25% should not result in fame loss 3) Killing any player with 1 rank lower and up should result in fame gain. 4) Heroic/Epic killing solo should not result in fame gain UNLESS other group/raid members are not in the same zone (or maybe close proximity). I think it's fair.
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Unread 04-01-2009, 02:02 PM   #17
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Hmm as of 4/1 I am still not gaining infamy for kills within my tier. I am Destroyer and I have killed several Slayers and other Destroyers but have not gained infamy.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 04:29 PM   #18
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Yeah I was killing Champs/Dreads/Generals as a Dread and getting no infamy at all.  In some cases I was losing infamy.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 04:38 PM   #19
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Aeralik wrote:

Corvena@Venekor wrote:

after update... killing champions and dreadnaughts gives me no infamy.. [Removed for Content]?

What rank are you?  You should only get infamy from the same rank or one above or below you. The data for that part looks correct.  Otherwise it might be trying to add 0 in some cases which is a result of the bug being fixed tomorrow.

It still is not reliable atm. I've had my share of kills since yesterday; however, I've only seen a handful of infamy increase. I'm almost wondering if you're only rewarded if you got the first strike in, like getting credit in PvE goes to whoever engages first.

But if it's not that, then it's still broken more than fixed.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 05:06 PM   #20
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I'm still not getting fame the majority of times I kill someone within my title range, even after todays patch.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 05:39 PM   #21
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Are you guys grouped when you don't get fame?  It might be rounding down to 0 possibly because the changes give much smaller adjustments now that there is so little being removed from the changes.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 05:50 PM   #22
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Being General, I dropped a dread solo (got 5k status), no fame change. Faught another guy in group duo, both of us generals, the target was also general. Healer in my group got fame, while me doing 80% total damage to the guy didn't get anything.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 06:10 PM   #23
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Aeralik wrote:

Are you guys grouped when you don't get fame?  It might be rounding down to 0 possibly because the changes give much smaller adjustments now that there is so little being removed from the changes.

Yes, I've been grouped 90% of the time.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 10:20 PM   #24
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You know what I would like to see?

You have killed Thatguy.

You gain 5000 status!

Your guild has received 500 status!

Your infamy has been increased by 24!

I don't know what all the mystery is regarding infamy. Give us a quantifiable number please, so we can stop accusing the system of shenanigans because we don't know.

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Unread 04-01-2009, 10:44 PM   #25
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I killed a General today and got no fame. Uncool. SMILEY

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Unread 04-01-2009, 10:51 PM   #26
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Personally I dont like the new fame system.  Sure you dont lose fame for dieing but now there are a billion and a half ppl ganking eachother and no one is getting fame from anything.  Only thing i ever get is decaying fame no matter how many ppl I manage to kill in one day.  out of about 100 kills, I maybe got 2 fame hits.

Time to throw in the towel on EQII I guess.  SoE just keeps ruining the game.

Azol@Nagafen wrote:

I believe: 1) Fame decay when offline should be disabled. 2) Killing any player with health >25% should not result in fame loss 3) Killing any player with 1 rank lower and up should result in fame gain. 4) Heroic/Epic killing solo should not result in fame gain UNLESS other group/raid members are not in the same zone (or maybe close proximity). 5) Not being able to revive while your group is still in combat was one of the better ideas SoE came up with, and should still remain in the game. I think it's fair.

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Unread 04-02-2009, 05:19 PM   #27
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PVP is pointless for me as when I do kill someone I get nothing for it.

I killed masters, generals quite a few times and plenty of others. I was duo and I'm a master, I go no fame I guess thats my fault for not rolling around in stacked groups huh.

I got zero fame from all these kills and I did 95% of the damage in most cases. ie two times was 4900 status as my friend was not close. STill got nothing.

BTW I have full pvp set before someone says you still get tokens. No I don't: I EARNT MY GEAR unlike the people out pvping/profiteering atm. Talk about devalued and a slap in the face for our hard work.

What's the point? Not renewing my sub, I 've had enough of your half baked implentations. I'll move onto a new mmorpg with better servers and customer support.

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Unread 04-02-2009, 05:39 PM   #28
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Trojamonkee wrote:

PVP is pointless for me as when I do kill someone I get nothing for it.

I killed masters, generals quite a few times and plenty of others. I was duo and I'm a master, I go no fame I guess thats my fault for not rolling around in stacked groups huh.

I got zero fame from all these kills and I did 95% of the damage in most cases. ie two times was 4900 status as my friend was not close. STill got nothing.

BTW I have full pvp set before someone says you still get tokens. No I don't: I EARNT MY GEAR unlike the people out pvping/profiteering atm. Talk about devalued and a slap in the face for our hard work.

What's the point? Not renewing my sub, I 've had enough of your half baked implentations. I'll move onto a new mmorpg with better servers and customer support.

there has been many gamebraking changes, but this one takes the cake. This is no longer the game i used to love, first you ruin pve and now pvp, after 5 years of playing i guess its time to look for something else

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Aion's not getting here soon enough, but once it is, I won't be letting the door hit me on the way out.

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