So the NDA is lifed AND......

Estean1 · 10-31-2008, 06:36 PM

Where is all the info or opinions on any changes? I didn't look at the stuff that was leaked and I would like to know whats changed? Has the necromancer thread really become this apathetic? Come on you beta testers!

psisto · 10-31-2008, 08:03 PM

as necro player, I can also only wonder where all the info has gone. I can only assume the changes wont change squat about our class, because buffs wouldve provoked a "yay" thread whilst a nerf wouldve caused a whinefest SMILEY

either that, or noone has bothered to post yet, which is a shame. i do hope us necros get some fun things for group play

Davngr1 · 11-01-2008, 02:46 AM

i only still play my necro because he was my first toon.. i even got him his myth strictly because of this.. frankly the fun was sucked out of the class.. it's way to dependent on healers and complicated to keep pets alive and attacking only to parse 5th or 6th.. either way, changes are on the way i hear. i'm looking forward to discovering a new role in raid/group, one that again makes people ask for necros when putting a group/raid together.

im not in beta, but can tell you we got a few cool up grades. i can't remerber exactly what they are and don't want mislead anyone. im sure someone will post the info soon enough.

Firecracker · 11-02-2008, 11:22 PM

From what I seen this something that was said....

Aeralik wrote: I will not be doing any major changes to summoners at this time. Fighters are the in the first phase of their tuning and I am trying to deal with 24 classes worth of achievements at the same time. It is just not feasible to be doing additional adjustments to other classes at this time. Summoners need to be more on par with the rogues from a damage and utility perspective. Right now a lot of loot is going out for summoners which should in turn help them out quite a bit. From there we can look at utility and damage versus the rogues and go from there. Right now class balance changes are just not feasible which is why I asked to keep the general feedback to the main forums. For gu50 we need to focus on fighters and achievement issues. From there we can prioritize which classes are most out of balance and come up with a plan of attack. For a specific date on summoners though there isnt one. It's just too early to give any information like that but once we have stuff done and in the works you guys will be the first to hear about it.

so hopefully reading that, you should get an idea where necros will be be when this expansion comes out.

Xil · 11-02-2008, 11:40 PM

Nowhere, with nothing on the horizon... fantastic.

We're sorry we cannot plug in the simple attribute change that would eliminate the need for corpses to utilize the full effects of Undead Horde...

We're sorry but we don't have time to patch in a simple attribute change that would increase the power regen for Hearts and Shards...

We're sorry we cannot give you AA's that would increase your pet's damage output based on your geared stats....

We're sorry we cannot give you a single utility for raiding that will make it worthwhile to bring a summoner rather than any other mage to a raid...

We're sorry but we like that summoners have absolutley no value on raids compared to other mage classes...

We're sorry but there is no plan to change anything because we just plain don't care about the summoner class...

Please continue to replace all summoners with Enchanters on all raids and have a gloriously craptastic day...

Davngr1 · 11-04-2008, 08:31 AM

Xil wrote:

Nowhere, with nothing on the horizon... fantastic.
We're sorry we cannot plug in the simple attribute change that would eliminate the need for corpses to utilize the full effects of Undead Horde...
We're sorry but we don't have time to patch in a simple attribute change that would increase the power regen for Hearts and Shards...
We're sorry we cannot give you AA's that would increase your pet's damage output based on your geared stats....
We're sorry we cannot give you a single utility for raiding that will make it worthwhile to bring a summoner rather than any other mage to a raid...
We're sorry but we like that summoners have absolutley no value on raids compared to other mage classes...
We're sorry but there is no plan to change anything because we just plain don't care about the summoner class...
Please continue to replace all summoners with Enchanters on all raids and have a gloriously craptastic day...

this i must say was a better post as far as the current situation of the necro class.

Estean1 · 11-07-2008, 03:12 AM

I knew we are screwed. The point of my post was can someone please post our new aa's and changes for the new expansion? We have Rok Changes pinned for crying out loud.. I will volunteer to STEAL some screenies for any necros interested I guess.. But I was hoping some beta necro could step up.. I guess not.

Estean1 · 11-07-2008, 03:20 AM

Sickening.. No I didn't make these and had no part in the creation of the screenshots but heres the link.. I dislike eq2flames and the fact that I had to go scrounge up this info makes me very sad. All credit to their maker which I repeat is not me.

http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2...ral-tso-aas.jpg

http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2...age-tso-aas.jpg

http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2...ner-tso-aas.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...owTreeNecro.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...owTreeSetup.jpg

The necro forum used to be the most up to date, informed forum in the game. Sad days.

Mew · 11-07-2008, 01:30 PM

Thanks for your effort.

I think the truth is that those of us who looked at the screenies on Flames got so disappointed that we lost hope. In our depression we neglected to update that info here. What was the point? Summoners get more of the same. No big fix that we need. Just a bandage the gapping wound in our bellies.

10-31-2008, 06:36 PM	#1
Estean1 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 308	Where is all the info or opinions on any changes? I didn't look at the stuff that was leaked and I would like to know whats changed? Has the necromancer thread really become this apathetic? Come on you beta testers! __________________

10-31-2008, 08:03 PM	#2
psisto General Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 242	as necro player, I can also only wonder where all the info has gone. I can only assume the changes wont change squat about our class, because buffs wouldve provoked a "yay" thread whilst a nerf wouldve caused a whinefest either that, or noone has bothered to post yet, which is a shame. i do hope us necros get some fun things for group play

11-01-2008, 02:46 AM	#3
Davngr1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,179	i only still play my necro because he was my first toon.. i even got him his myth strictly because of this.. frankly the fun was sucked out of the class.. it's way to dependent on healers and complicated to keep pets alive and attacking only to parse 5th or 6th.. either way, changes are on the way i hear. i'm looking forward to discovering a new role in raid/group, one that again makes people ask for necros when putting a group/raid together. im not in beta, but can tell you we got a few cool up grades. i can't remerber exactly what they are and don't want mislead anyone. im sure someone will post the info soon enough. __________________

11-02-2008, 11:22 PM	#4
Firecracker Server: Kithicor Guild: Knights of Qeynos Rank: MARSHALS (Crafters) Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 703	From what I seen this something that was said.... Aeralik wrote: I will not be doing any major changes to summoners at this time. Fighters are the in the first phase of their tuning and I am trying to deal with 24 classes worth of achievements at the same time. It is just not feasible to be doing additional adjustments to other classes at this time. Summoners need to be more on par with the rogues from a damage and utility perspective. Right now a lot of loot is going out for summoners which should in turn help them out quite a bit. From there we can look at utility and damage versus the rogues and go from there. Right now class balance changes are just not feasible which is why I asked to keep the general feedback to the main forums. For gu50 we need to focus on fighters and achievement issues. From there we can prioritize which classes are most out of balance and come up with a plan of attack. For a specific date on summoners though there isnt one. It's just too early to give any information like that but once we have stuff done and in the works you guys will be the first to hear about it. so hopefully reading that, you should get an idea where necros will be be when this expansion comes out. __________________

11-02-2008, 11:40 PM	#5
Xil Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 341	Nowhere, with nothing on the horizon... fantastic. We're sorry we cannot plug in the simple attribute change that would eliminate the need for corpses to utilize the full effects of Undead Horde... We're sorry but we don't have time to patch in a simple attribute change that would increase the power regen for Hearts and Shards... We're sorry we cannot give you AA's that would increase your pet's damage output based on your geared stats.... We're sorry we cannot give you a single utility for raiding that will make it worthwhile to bring a summoner rather than any other mage to a raid... We're sorry but we like that summoners have absolutley no value on raids compared to other mage classes... We're sorry but there is no plan to change anything because we just plain don't care about the summoner class... Please continue to replace all summoners with Enchanters on all raids and have a gloriously craptastic day... __________________ I had a momentary lapse in perfection...

11-04-2008, 08:31 AM	#6
Davngr1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,179	Xil wrote: Nowhere, with nothing on the horizon... fantastic. We're sorry we cannot plug in the simple attribute change that would eliminate the need for corpses to utilize the full effects of Undead Horde... We're sorry but we don't have time to patch in a simple attribute change that would increase the power regen for Hearts and Shards... We're sorry we cannot give you AA's that would increase your pet's damage output based on your geared stats.... We're sorry we cannot give you a single utility for raiding that will make it worthwhile to bring a summoner rather than any other mage to a raid... We're sorry but we like that summoners have absolutley no value on raids compared to other mage classes... We're sorry but there is no plan to change anything because we just plain don't care about the summoner class... Please continue to replace all summoners with Enchanters on all raids and have a gloriously craptastic day... this i must say was a better post as far as the current situation of the necro class. __________________

11-07-2008, 03:12 AM	#7
Estean1 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 308	I knew we are screwed. The point of my post was can someone please post our new aa's and changes for the new expansion? We have Rok Changes pinned for crying out loud.. I will volunteer to STEAL some screenies for any necros interested I guess.. But I was hoping some beta necro could step up.. I guess not. __________________

11-07-2008, 03:20 AM	#8
Estean1 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 308	Sickening.. No I didn't make these and had no part in the creation of the screenshots but heres the link.. I dislike eq2flames and the fact that I had to go scrounge up this info makes me very sad. All credit to their maker which I repeat is not me. http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2...ral-tso-aas.jpg http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2...age-tso-aas.jpg http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2...ner-tso-aas.jpg http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...owTreeNecro.jpg http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...owTreeSetup.jpg The necro forum used to be the most up to date, informed forum in the game. Sad days. __________________

11-07-2008, 01:30 PM	#9
Mew General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 488	Thanks for your effort. I think the truth is that those of us who looked at the screenies on Flames got so disappointed that we lost hope. In our depression we neglected to update that info here. What was the point? Summoners get more of the same. No big fix that we need. Just a bandage the gapping wound in our bellies.