Charm and Evac - DEVS PLEASE SORT THIS

[Kaltona]

Ok this is something that I cannot believe still has not been changed in PVP in EQ2. I was fighting a troub the other day 1v1 and as I was about to kill him he charmed me, and the pvp encounter went non aggro. Then i killed him and because he wqas below half hp he lost no fame.. This has also happened and they charm, then evac half way through a pvp fight that they had engaged. This is completely unfair and basically allows troubs to never loose fame in a 1v1 if they are loosing. I hope everyone can see why this needs to be sorted. Make the charm mez or whatever, i dont care. But nothing should break pvp encounter once they have engaged.ThanksLightmy

[Slow]

Lol.

[Bozidar]

1) The charm can easily resist, so saying that they can never lose a 1v1 is silly.

2) They already have a mez, they dont need another

3) My trouby is only 58 right now, dont nerf this till i have a chance to use it on some of the worst t8 bozo's i know!

[Wytie]

Slowed wrote:

Lol.

LOL

Your laughing now, but I bet you would be the first to quit if they did fix it, just like your the first to respond, so yea lol

[Ahlana]

Wytie wrote:

Slowed wrote:

Lol.

LOL

Your laughing now, but I bet you would be the first to quit if they did fix it, just like your the first to respond, so yea lol

I bet not! He was always like "OMG I woulds neva do that to anyone, they could getz away from the me if I did"!!!

[Kaltona]

It is jusst stupid tho, nothing should ever break pvp combat like that. Its a pisstake, im just fed up of little pusssy scouts that cant kill me so they cheat-(in my opinion)

[Slow]

Umm, wytie? i dunno [Removed for Content] is ur problem but why wud i quit if they fixed that charm wudnt get u out of combat? why? i can tell u that ive charm and ran/evaced twice in my hole life as a troub, one vs Keili and one vs Narox. and yea i agree it needs a fix, u think i use charm in 1v1? lmfao no. if it wuddnt make me out of combat i wud use it as a 2nd mezz, to wait up skills? run further away if they come close? anything. and tbh, charm wud be more "OP" if it didint break combat. well anyways have a nice day.

[draxhellion]

Kaltona wrote:

It is jusst stupid tho, nothing should ever break pvp combat like that. Its a pisstake, im just fed up of little pusssy scouts that cant kill me so they cheat-(in my opinion)

such a tough guy. i didnt know tough guys cry too. lol

[BlueEternal]

Slowed wrote:

Umm, wytie? i dunno [Removed for Content] is ur problem but why wud i quit if they fixed that charm wudnt get u out of combat? why?i can tell u that ive charm and ran/evaced twice in my hole life as a troub, one vs Keili and one vs Narox.and yea i agree it needs a fix, u think i use charm in 1v1? lmfao no. if it wuddnt make me out of combat i wud use it as a 2nd mezz, to wait up skills? run further away if they come close? anything.and tbh, charm wud be more "OP" if it didint break combat.well anyways have a nice day.

 Lol Slowed

[Sprin]

Self Preservation = I deleted post myself.... 

[Sightless]

lol.. There is an item in the game that I hear prevents charm. I havn't got around to testing it, but if it does... I will not share my findings.

[Slow]

there is also the "resest computer" button that broncas uses when he get charmed in a 6v6 and blames that he gone ld =/ rofl.

[Bloodfa]

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members.  It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

[Wytie]

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members.  It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

lolz

wow he must be doing a good job, cause hes like a champ already at level 47

[Bozidar]

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members.  It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

eq2players is blocked here at work, who's that?

[Ahlana]

Bozidar wrote:

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members.  It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

eq2players is blocked here at work, who's that?

Champion Charmnevac Tohugmy'Fame

OMG that is the funniest thing.. since ever

[Bozidar]

stupid buggy forums.. 

[Bozidar]

Ahlana wrote:

Champion Charmnevac Tohugmy'Fame

OMG that is the funniest thing.. since ever

Ah, yeah, i remember him in EFP a couple days ago.  When i saw his last name with his fame.. i did rofl a bit

[Wytie]

Bozidar wrote:

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members.  It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

eq2players is blocked here at work, who's that?

Its a troub whos name is...    Charmnevac, yea you can lol from there heh

[Slow]

Bozidar wrote:

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members. It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

eq2players is blocked here at work, who's that?

Ye thats gankednshanked's alt, biggest newb on the server.and its not hard to get champ at 47 lol, i had general at 40.anyways this dude is charming and evacing all the time so /no respect.

[Norrsken]

Slowed wrote:

Bozidar wrote:

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:

Irony: There's a lamer named just that on Nagy. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...erId=1326457120Check out the guild, then its' members. It's pretty funny, actually, if you know the toons at all.

eq2players is blocked here at work, who's that?

Ye thats gankednshanked's alt, biggest newb on the server.and its not hard to get champ at 47 lol, i had general at 40.anyways this dude is charming and evacing all the time so /no respect.

with that name, he gets my props.

[Bloodfa]

I chuckled the first time I saw him.  When he proceeded to be a twit 6 times in a row (and yes, he's warping as well) I stopped chuckling and shook my head.  Only time he fought me was when my alt was fighting mobs. 

[Plane]

i have a lvl 28 troub and it did strike me as strange how easy it is to break combat and evac. ive done it a couple of times myself, yet though its fun having that feature, taking in to accout how annoying i'd find it if it happened to one of my other toons, it really should be fixed. i would say though troubs arnt the most overpowered scouts in the game 1 v 1 and if you evec mid fight with a fury part of me thinks so what! there wimps playing one of the most overpowered classes in my teir why shouldnt i take advantage of this feature when i start losing the fight because theyed have to be total muppet to lose with a fury. The games not balance, i dont have a problem with that, i play a number of diffrent classes however troubs arnt one of the classes really begging for a nurfed.

[Slow]

Well if u cant beat a fury as a troub in any tier thats ur problem if u cant play. anyways yea they need to fix charm so u could even use it in a 1v1 as a 2nd mezz or just as a mezz or something below lvl 50 it wud just make troubs OP if they fixed the charm so if ur not a troub, be happy we only have one mezz cus by fixing charm you make troubs better, much better.

[sokil]

Well, since I die before I could ever charm and evac I guess I will never test this out. But it does work both ways. If I am in pvp, charmed and stand there idily until the charm breaks .. then I can evac from the troub (or at least the one time my swashi tried this about .5 years ago).

 Anyone who charms and evacs is low class.

 That said, I do hate it when I agro a full mob, mez one, charm one and see that I need to evac or die.. and the charmed mob comes with me to the evac zone and kills me and attacks anyone who is there. That really sucks and makes me look bad.. expecially when I eavc just to die at the feet of anyone standing at the evac zone. First time I did that I landed in a group of friends.. just to fall on the ground dead thankfully no screenie surved that epic blunder.

[KniteShayd]

simple fix would be:

• Charming a player does not take you out of PvP Combat.  You are engaged until the encounter breaks.

• Evac is not usable if Charm is active and on a PK. Evac is only usable while Charm is active on an NPC.

The first seems to be do-able from a hot fix stand point. 

The only reason this has not been looked at is because:

•  Who plays troubs in the first place? There are far and few on PvP.  Therefore, encountering one vs. the million rogues and druids shows the dev's where the trends are.  Troub's exploit stays under the radar due to the population trendz and devs having to look at why there are so many of this class and why they are so popular.  

We learn from this that:

• Unless we make a huge fuss, Dev's won't take a look at an already ignored playerbase to make a change to an exploit that few are using cause it's not game breaking to the majority of the population.  Even though it's being used against the majority of the population...

[draxhellion]

Kaltona wrote:

Ok this is something that I cannot believe still has not been changed in PVP in EQ2. I was fighting a troub the other day 1v1 and as I was about to kill him he charmed me, and the pvp encounter went non aggro. Then i killed him and because he wqas below half hp he lost no fame.. This has also happened and they charm, then evac half way through a pvp fight that they had engaged. This is completely unfair and basically allows troubs to never loose fame in a 1v1 if they are loosing. I hope everyone can see why this needs to be sorted. Make the charm mez or whatever, i dont care. But nothing should break pvp encounter once they have engaged.ThanksLightmy

Its threads like this that gets the nerf bat going and then turns around in people crying. So many lil minor pistakes like this. So what just get better resists.

[Bloodfa]

Wait ... a Trouby that wants to keep it so that it breaks combat?  Nah ... that crap needs to go.  Mezz / Charm and beat feet for 30 seconds to break it, but the instant "get out of jail free card" is simply not needed, nor justified.

[Kaltona]

BUMP cos still this ridiculous problem has been IGNORED! Do you jobs you slacking DEVS

[Sprin]

Might as well make it perma-sticky, cuz the Devs will NEVER do anything about it....   too lazy imho... besides... LON tourney is up and coming soon, so all hands on deck for that!!!