I've started to hate my Inquisitor

[interstellarmatter]

After over three years, I'm ready to throw in the towel.  I really felt like I had a place in KoS and EoH in raids.  It was a special spot occupied by an Inquisitor.  With RoK, we've been branded heretics like the Templars of old Europe.

I could go into details.  I could compare abilities with our heals.  But what it boils down to is the other healers heal better.  DPS?  If I want to DPS, I'll play my Assassin.  But...even though the DPS is good, a Fury will put an Inquisitor to shame on the DPS parse.  After playing a Warden and Defiler up to T8, it makes me wonder if they fired the Inquisitor Dev and forgot to replace him.  It's really kind of sad. 

I asked my guild if they could replace me with one of our many templars on raids and let me raid with a Warlock.  Surprisingly, they were quick to agree.  Sad really, I used to love the class more than anything. 

[Steeltoed]

I can assure you, you are definately not alone

[Alarick0]

Yep. All of us are feeling that crunch...

[inhumanus1986]

Well I have a few suggestions..........If we could have anything like Sanctuary (perhaps our lil save being group wide, have an immunity duration and a much faster recast)If we could have anything like Glory of Battle (or something like the druids get).  I mean some Templars are bragging that even though this healing buff rarely makes the parse; if used by itself can heal an instance zone without casting a heal, just lotto heals.If we could have anything like Stoneskin, id rather have a melee reflection attack.If we could have some permanent ward for some magic....um like Arcane (Templar).If we could have a 7000+ward/heal re-castable every <30 seconds.If we could have our enhanced Devotion completely unpenalized.If our AA offered any....I mean any........ buff to our heals (since we really dont have proc heals).If our epic would not be the only healer epic with a penalty that makes it useless.If our epic buffed offensive and/or defensive skills.If our epic had a 30 second/3 minute God mode dps/power/heal (Mystics).If..............you get the idea.Our niche is gone, our heals lag waaaay behind, we cant heal and get proc dps (Fury), nor have any worthwhile proc heals.  If we had half this list, we would still be far behind, but so much more improved to our sister class that we may actually get less invites to betray.Inhumanus Nex80 Inquisitor

[Alarick0]

You forgot the most important "If"If we had a Dev that payed attention to Inquisitors....

[Mew]

Now why would any Devs want to pay attention to Inquisitors?  Do you see any of the other classes/guilds screaming, "Hey!  We got a shortage of Inquisitors!  Do something to make this class more interesting so more people will play it!"

Enchanters got attention not just because the enchanters were screaming but because the big guilds were screaming along with them.  Bards got some attention to their raiding skills for the same reason (although not enough IMHO).  Until the big guilds start howling about how they just can't take on the higher level content without an improved Inquisitor we will see no action whatsoever. 

[Hopefulne]

woh now! they fixed the ''bug'' with + spell on the CA dot sections now didn't they?

Shame reactives don't promise healing (unless hit)

or have as big a + heal cap

or have a dps attribute that wasn't trivialised by tier8 (like dps/attack speed/crit/double attack)

or have plate gear that pushes their mit into the diminishing returns (like most fabled non plate)

or a 'preventative' heal (like enhanced hibernate or repent)

or had abilities that scaled decently (bolt of power went up ~20 damage from 70-80 in a tier where most item procs nearly doubled.  the CA's didn't even manage that %age last i checked.)

or had an unbugged fanactism/devotion which didn't give the biggest drawback in the game for a healer (casting speed/reduced healing/increased power cost)

or had equipment designed for inquis's (how much +CA +spell gear is there for bards? or +crit/da for most scouts/tanks?)

or have a decent mythical  (like assassins who got what....62 str, 52 int, crit, DA, 15% AOE autoattack, 30% stealth attack damage boost, 103 crit damage rating AND a damage proc....all on a 1 hander with a DR nearly as good as most fabled 2 handers - i mean [Removed for Content] happened there???!!?  My inquis would be happy with a 30% damage buff while under devotion or a 15% AOE autoattack.  Or hell - a damage spread weapon comparable to that)

Rumour has it the only class not played in dev guilds IS the inquis.  (Although i also heard the assassin dev is in charge of spells/ca's and abilities so meh...)

[inhumanus1986]

If I remember correctly, a Dev by the handle of Froak played an Inquisitor.  I do not know if he continues to play the class, nor if he does, if he is even level 80.  I know before Mythicals came out, Mystics and Wardens were having to fight for spots in raids.  Mystics less so.  Although Wardens continue to need buff/utility loving, their Mythical at least fill a role (insane mana battery).  Mystics now can be put into MT/MA or melee dps groups because their Mythical is insane.  We know the story of ours...........As I see it, Wardens complain about uneven DPS to Furies, but somewhat better heals.Mystics complained that they werent wanted in the MT grp.  The heals between shamans were somewhat close, but Mystics somewhat better dps.Inquisitor's heals are not equal by any stretch to a Templars, not even counting Stoneskin; but we do somewhat better dps.BTW, I see tons of irony seeing a person with the handle of Hopefulness losing hope : (.In my opinion, I feel that Inqs are being compared to the most overpowered healer class (Templars),  But they are our good aligned cousins.  I am not asking to become overpowered, but to have somewhat comparative healing ability with a etched in stone reason to have us in a raid (even though I dont have time to raid).Inhumanus Nex

[Grimfang]

To me, it seems like the devs have forgotten what inquisitors are.We used to be healers, somewhat leveled with templars, then with EoF came Battle Cleric (good for soloing) and we were still decent, although alot more offensive oriented.I used to state that we were what the paladins should have been at that point. Now? We arent even a 2nd rated healer anymore, we are 3rd rated or worse.But hey, I can solo quite well, and I love to mentor down and become the group tank, dps and healer That is what I do nowadays to have *some* fun, unless some friends really want me to tag along as backup healer/backup dps ... well, you get what I mean... backup at everything

[Norrsken]

I feel rather alone when I read these threads here. I actually like my inquisitor quite a bit, and Im asked for as well. though that might be because Im on a pvp server so templars dont exist where I am. Still, I have no problems solo healing group content, and I am a very strong soloer, as well as a juggernaught in pvp.So it would seem that raiding is where we need some love. And gear. I find the lack of gear for the mixed classes in this expansion disheartening. I used to play a sk as well, and atm its just collecting dust.

[Hopefulne]

well of each class of healer one has always been defensive and one has always been more offensive. Problem  is that between lvl 70 and 80 some classes had their dps double. The inquisitor who is a dps orientated healer has had less of a dps %age increase than most other classes.

Did a search on the name froak...came up with no inquisitors and 2 templars with froak in the name (but not called froak) lvl 60 and 80.  Hmmm

 Despite the irony in the name (hehehe i was gonna go with hopelessness once - [Removed for Content] you alcohol - why do you make me hurt so.....)  i do have hope for the inquis - they just need adjustments (like the coercers)

[Avirodar]

Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:

I feel rather alone when I read these threads here. I actually like my inquisitor quite a bit, and Im asked for as well. though that might be because Im on a pvp server so templars dont exist where I am. Still, I have no problems solo healing group content, and I am a very strong soloer, as well as a juggernaught in pvp.So it would seem that raiding is where we need some love. And gear. I find the lack of gear for the mixed classes in this expansion disheartening. I used to play a sk as well, and atm its just collecting dust.

Yes, being on a PVP server makes a big difference.

Any healer in EQ2 is capable of solo healing heroic content, just some can do it much easier than others. That is not the problem, though.  The problems become severe when regarding high end raiding.

[Nembutal]

As someone with 5 toons at max level I will say the one that is the hardest to get a group with is the inquisitor... people will say Looking for a plate healer lvl 75+ and I will reply "lvl 80 Inquisitor here... I'll join you" and I will get back "no thanks" or "we need a templar"As a result of this I have had to pretty much 3 and 4 box my way through most of the epic with almost no help at all... just occasional family or guildmate help (harder for me to get help since it's my 5th epic... people only want to help so much ;-p )To make the situation worse... I think this has been the hardest epic I have had to do... TWO trips to Chelsith?  1 Trip to deep Chardok... 1 Trip to Deep Seb?  The fury epic is almost soloable.To make it worse I hear the end fight for this is solo only and very hard... that's the only epic I have done of the 5 with anything like that on the fabled epic (the mythical fury one required a step like this also... but not the fabled)  I still ahve to hit that step and I will probably fail because I am not geared up for soloing AT ALL... and I can't get help unless I can find an Inq at that exact same step...So not only is it hard to get a group on this toon... it's the mythical that needs the strongest groups.I won't even begin to try and tell you how hard it is to 3 box Chelsith and Chardok.... Just thank god for tinkered mendor bots and havig a few plat on hand.

[Calain80]

Skoshi@Guk wrote:

To make it worse I hear the end fight for this is solo only and very hard... that's the only epic I have done of the 5 with anything like that on the fabled epic (the mythical fury one required a step like this also... but not the fabled)  I still ahve to hit that step and I will probably fail because I am not geared up for soloing AT ALL... and I can't get help unless I can find an Inq at that exact same step...

The end named was nerved into oblivion. It is now a joke that dies if you just cough roughly into the right direction. And you don't need to go into Deep Sebilis. There are some Frogs close to the Lab and in the barracks area, which count for the quest. In both areas they are just 80-82. But it still sucks to get a group to do it cause of the faction loss. Pickup groups will most likely desert after they find out about it.But don't bother with it if you are not about to get the Mythical version of it, cause almost any other weapon will be better in healing mode and even some leg two handed weapons will do more dps (Epic proc included). And even the current Mythical would be useless, but the updated version coming with GU47 will have its uses on AE cure heavy fights.p.s. If you are really fast or have the right strat you can do it with one Chelsith instance, but most people doing it in pickup groups might even need three runs or a lot of time. (You can destroy the statures and collect the tablets without needing to kill a singe mob.)

[Nembutal]

inhumanus1986 wrote:

If we could have anything like Stoneskin, id rather have a melee reflection attack.Inhumanus Nex80 Inquisitor

I thought about that also... but then I decided the most common raid slot we get is to heal the scout team which technically should not be getting attacked.  Templar will always be the default MT healer... so the person that could possibly benefit via reflects on raids will not be grouped with an Inq... making reflects on Inq kinda useless on raids.

I wouldn't completely rule out reflects... but you might want to think about what I said a little because I am certain you can follow my logic since we both thought the same thing to begin with odds are we think similarly.

Where I would rule them out 100% is as an effect on the mythical epic.... it's as a normal buff that I wouldn't rule it out.  Mythicals should be for raiding and reflect as I said would be near useless on raids so it's the opposite of what should be an effect on that.

While I have another post talking about procing group wards on the epic that is different... that would hopefully be proced and maintained as up shortly into the raid... giving it basically a 100% chance to fire off and protect someone for a second when they pulled aggro by mistake.  Stoneskin nd therefore a reflect version of stoneskin are a % to trigger and instant use... which is not a 100%"sure thing" when someone in the group needs it... 19% would be 19%.  It would normally only fire once in a row given the odds... so protecting against 2 blows would be extremely unlikely.  If a ward was triggerable with a low change to trigger but a high duration so a large group ward basically sat there all the time as long as people didn't pull aggro too often to let you re-proc it you would be good to go.  It should in a normal group be able to block 19% damage just like a stoneskin... just differently by making it more stable due to a different triggering and storage mechanism.  You don't need an immediate % drop in incoming damage... you need aggro swapping negating ability which it's ok if it takes a few seconds to get it going.

[Ameria]

I just came over from the Warden forum and seems they are complaining about the same kinda thing. ^^I think after raiding as a healer (or anything probably) for awhile you start to go "hey I can't do that!" or "wow I wish I could do that as well as he does" enjoy raiding on your warlock, maybe the lure of the healer will bring you back one day.PS: I still love all Inquisitors.

[Taleise]

I've been playing almost exclusively an Inquisitor since late 2005.  And I tend to pride myself as being dedicated to the class.  I'm prolly what most would call a casual or weekend raider.   I enjoy to raid, and I am very well geared out in a mix of all legendary and fabled.  All that I have gear/spell/skill wise I've had to work doubly hard for it seems just due to the lack of anyone really wanting an Inquisitor for anything.  All the gear and stuff I do have I'm very appreciative and thankful for just due to the amount of effort I've put into everything.  I'm having the absolute harderst time ever trying to find a raid group to join for VP to gain my last mythical update.  I know, the Inky mythical isn't the greatest, but its a goal that I am so close to getting upon the kill of Nexona in VP.   Lucan DLere server has a handful of raid groups that do VP on a regular basis, but you either have to be in thier guild and become a military-like hardcore raider at the raid leader's beck and call, pay enormouse amounts of plat as a bribe to even get a spot in the raid with no garuntee you'll get your update, or be "popular" with the raid cliques who deem anyone not a hardcore raider like them to be lowly and insignificant.  Due to my work sched and other real life responsibilities, I cannot be on-call to a raid leader or strict raid only guild.  As much as I would like to be able to play EQ2 24/7, I cannot.  The times I have been to VP, I've been the "backup backup backup" when the group could find no other non-inquisitor healer and it's always been after my needed update has already been killed.  I've been the replacement replacement replacement when their regular healer would not be able to make it to continue on in their already started instance.

 I'm tired of being 3rd or 4th rate.  I'm like the red headed step child of the healer class....the nerdy kid thats always picked last because they HAVE to pick me when there is no other choice.

 I do my best to work with what's given to me.  But when the Dev's do not give us the tools and means, you can only do but so much up to the hard defined limit put in place by the Devs.  It's a wall one cannot move past because it's beyond our controll to move or knock down.  And until the Dev's pay attention and make the needed changes or remove the obsticals in our path, the Inquisitor class will continue to butt up against a wall that we cannot break down no matter how hard we try and fall further behind other classes that have been deemed better and more wanted by the player community.  I mean come on, who wants to handicap a raid or group with a lame duck healer and risk not being able to progress and reach the set objectives whatever they may be at the time?