Bard's Selos.Shouldn't runspeed be the bard's domain?

Abi · 09-10-2007, 08:57 AM

hi,I wonder why in EQ2 Dirges and Troubies are not the fastest Speed buffers. I mean come on, they need to have some traditions in their games SMILEY

Pogopuschel · 09-10-2007, 09:13 AM

Don't mean to be rude, but this is approximately the 100th topic on this issue in the past 6 months.The horse is beaten dead (maybe that's why we're not so fast). SMILEY

MullenSkywatcher · 09-11-2007, 04:23 AM

Selo's should get a spell upgrade in ROK whereas most of the other classes will not, as the majority of speed increases for other classes come from AA lines.

Mildavyn · 09-13-2007, 04:53 AM

MullenSkywatcher wrote:

Selo's should, but probably wont, get a spell upgrade in ROK whereas most of the other classes will not, as the majority of speed increases for other classes come from AA lines.

Fixed

Pogopuschel · 09-17-2007, 07:00 PM

Agreeing with Paikis, it is highly unlikely since there is no level 69 upgrade atm (which would follow the current 14-level upgrade rate)

SleepingSleeping · 09-17-2007, 08:23 PM

Maybe a new speed spell with the coming expansion!

MullenSkywatcher · 09-19-2007, 02:27 AM

Everything is up in the air with RoK since they are revamping spells lines (combining) and switching to upgrades every 10 levels.

Mildavyn · 09-19-2007, 06:00 AM

SleepingSleeping wrote:

Maybe, but probably not, a new speed spell with the coming expansion!

Fixed.

firza · 09-19-2007, 06:42 AM

of course someone will create a topic about this in game-play discussion forums after RoK release. The following will then happen :

First shamans and rangers will claim there is no precendence for bards being fastest.

Then lore lovers will inform us there is no lore telling us that bards are fastest.

Then, after about some months into RoK some Dev will suddenly /slap his forehead and explain:

"the Bards....We forgot about those bloody Bards again" and very quickly create a new upgrade for selo's.

Slotor · 09-21-2007, 07:12 AM

firza wrote:

of course someone will create a topic about this in game-play discussion forums after RoK release. The following will then happen :
First shamans and rangers will claim there is no precendence for bards being fastest.
Then lore lovers will inform us there is no lore telling us that bards are fastest.
Then, after about some months into RoK some Dev will suddenly /slap his forehead and explain:
"the Bards....We forgot about those bloody Bards again" and very quickly create a new upgrade for selo's.

lol how many times have we seen this happen?

Killerbee3000 · 09-21-2007, 09:35 AM

Slotor wrote:

firza wrote:
of course someone will create a topic about this in game-play discussion forums after RoK release. The following will then happen :
First shamans and rangers will claim there is no precendence for bards being fastest.
Then lore lovers will inform us there is no lore telling us that bards are fastest.
Then, after about some months into RoK some Dev will suddenly /slap his forehead and explain:
"the Bards....We forgot about those bloody Bards again" and very quickly create a new upgrade for selo's.
lol how many times have we seen this happen?

several times... except for the last part.. lol100% runspeed buff as ancient spell for bards in t8 pls... if we cant fight worth [Removed for Content] atleast make us good at running away....

RaunII · 09-28-2007, 04:41 AM

maybe i missed something, but i got selos excelerando on my little trouby and it doesnt stack with SoW....when did this happen? does it stack with anything? so what, we dont even get a USEFULL speed buff now? 22% that doesnt stack with anything? woo [Removed for Content] whoo!

Kyle · 09-29-2007, 02:08 AM

I've all but almost given up on this. I'll be turning my jboots into a mounted house item soon. Looks like I'll be saving up for a Rhino come Kunark. /sigh

Everytime a druid/ranger zooms past me I die a little inside.

Abi · 10-01-2007, 09:03 AM

Well, I dont know why the bards community dont fight for things like that... I mean come on, if a ranger or druid asks for some things they get that in the next patch, why couldnt we do stuff like thatt?? SMILEY

Spider · 10-02-2007, 08:11 PM

Max bard speed 46 % ooc 12 in

stacks with jbbots for another 10 % ooc

and if your a fae or arusai an addition 5 % in and out of combat for a total of

61% ooc 17 % in combat

thats all said and done fairly imspessive

and of course it all stacks with doag swill and the new russion vodka SMILEY<img src= " width="15" height="15" />

Rayle · 10-05-2007, 01:12 AM

being someone who played a bard all my eq1 life... i can confidently sit here and agree with you guys... run speed SHOULD be the bards domain... back pre kunark on eqlive... Selos was THE reason i rolled my bard, when it took 30-45min to run across ant with no sow... then they gave us the runspeed/invis/seeinvis/lev song with kunark, and omg... everytime we had to run across DL... everyone would /autofollow the bard and afk... by the time they got back we were at our destination SMILEY

Kyle · 11-05-2007, 06:58 AM

Abian wrote:

Well, I dont know why the bards community dont fight for things like that... I mean come on, if a ranger or druid asks for some things they get that in the next patch, why couldnt we do stuff like thatt?? " />

Look at how many topics there are on it. We have tried. Everyone is tired of trying - it's never going to happen.

missing_peace · 11-16-2007, 06:05 PM

Don't give up hope. There is always a chance that someone will see the light and set things to the way they should be.

Kunark should have introduce a selo's upgrade at level 69 at a minimum. Mount's have gotten faster. Race abilities have been added that increase runspeed. Other classes are still faster on foot than bards and they spend fewer achievement points to get there.

I suggest changing the level 54 version to 36% (up from 34%) so that the previous 6% increase continues. Add in a level 69 version that is 42%. Add a tier 8 version that is 48%. Set in combat runspeed to be 1/4 of out of combat for all versions of selo's. Remove the achievement that adds additional runspeed and replace it with something new.

There. Bards can run at a max 48%. Players no longer feel that they have to "waste" achievement points to obtain something that they felt should be a given and everyone walks away a little bit happier. Still slower than mounts, but at least I could hold onto my self respect.

inshiningarmor · 11-17-2007, 05:04 PM

45% run speed totem for the win that stacks better then Selo's FTW!

Cadori Seraphim · 11-17-2007, 05:21 PM

inshiningarmor wrote:

45% run speed totem for the win that stacks better then Selo's FTW!

This is what pisses me off the most. Don't get me wrong, I am super glad they added this totem.. its awesome. But the fact that Bard's cant out do that is bullcrap.. added to that.. the classes who can sow should at least get a lesser version *sow* then the totem, like previously done. (sow is 20% speed and the prior totem is 24% speed)

Snublefot · 11-19-2007, 04:03 AM

Maybe a 45s speedbuff with 43s recast? With 0.5s cast time and you have to stand still to cast. Bards version of feign death. If this also included an in-combat speedbuff like our AA-line I would call it a winner.

09-10-2007, 08:57 AM	#1
Abi General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 56	hi,I wonder why in EQ2 Dirges and Troubies are not the fastest Speed buffers. I mean come on, they need to have some traditions in their games __________________

09-10-2007, 09:13 AM	#2
Pogopuschel Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 408	Don't mean to be rude, but this is approximately the 100th topic on this issue in the past 6 months.The horse is beaten dead (maybe that's why we're not so fast). __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Runnyeye.Luitgard, 80 Berserker - Member of Xanadu ... and a few alts... 80 Troubadour / 80 Dirge / 80 Ranger / 80 Warden / 80 Illusionist / 80 Mystic / 80 Necromancer / 80 Warlock / 80 Brigand

09-11-2007, 04:23 AM	#3
MullenSkywatcher Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 279	Selo's should get a spell upgrade in ROK whereas most of the other classes will not, as the majority of speed increases for other classes come from AA lines. __________________

09-13-2007, 04:53 AM	#4
Mildavyn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,301	MullenSkywatcher wrote: Selo's should, but probably wont, get a spell upgrade in ROK whereas most of the other classes will not, as the majority of speed increases for other classes come from AA lines. Fixed __________________ Paikis, Troubador Ashk, Guardian Sslyth, Necromancer Mirbolt, Shadowknight Mildayvin, Assasin Verminius, Defiler

09-17-2007, 07:00 PM	#5
Pogopuschel Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 408	Agreeing with Paikis, it is highly unlikely since there is no level 69 upgrade atm (which would follow the current 14-level upgrade rate) __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Runnyeye.Luitgard, 80 Berserker - Member of Xanadu ... and a few alts... 80 Troubadour / 80 Dirge / 80 Ranger / 80 Warden / 80 Illusionist / 80 Mystic / 80 Necromancer / 80 Warlock / 80 Brigand

09-17-2007, 08:23 PM	#6
SleepingSleeping Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 25	Maybe a new speed spell with the coming expansion! __________________ Shhh I'm sleep-trolling...

09-19-2007, 02:27 AM	#7
MullenSkywatcher Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 279	Everything is up in the air with RoK since they are revamping spells lines (combining) and switching to upgrades every 10 levels. __________________

09-19-2007, 06:00 AM	#8
Mildavyn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,301	SleepingSleeping wrote: Maybe, but probably not, a new speed spell with the coming expansion! Fixed. __________________ Paikis, Troubador Ashk, Guardian Sslyth, Necromancer Mirbolt, Shadowknight Mildayvin, Assasin Verminius, Defiler

09-19-2007, 06:42 AM	#9
firza Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 640	of course someone will create a topic about this in game-play discussion forums after RoK release. The following will then happen : First shamans and rangers will claim there is no precendence for bards being fastest. Then lore lovers will inform us there is no lore telling us that bards are fastest. Then, after about some months into RoK some Dev will suddenly /slap his forehead and explain: "the Bards....We forgot about those bloody Bards again" and very quickly create a new upgrade for selo's.

09-21-2007, 07:12 AM	#10
Slotor Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 54	firza wrote: of course someone will create a topic about this in game-play discussion forums after RoK release. The following will then happen : First shamans and rangers will claim there is no precendence for bards being fastest. Then lore lovers will inform us there is no lore telling us that bards are fastest. Then, after about some months into RoK some Dev will suddenly /slap his forehead and explain: "the Bards....We forgot about those bloody Bards again" and very quickly create a new upgrade for selo's. lol how many times have we seen this happen?

09-21-2007, 09:35 AM	#11
Killerbee3000 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: right behind you Posts: 1,802	Slotor wrote: firza wrote: of course someone will create a topic about this in game-play discussion forums after RoK release. The following will then happen : First shamans and rangers will claim there is no precendence for bards being fastest. Then lore lovers will inform us there is no lore telling us that bards are fastest. Then, after about some months into RoK some Dev will suddenly /slap his forehead and explain: "the Bards....We forgot about those bloody Bards again" and very quickly create a new upgrade for selo's. lol how many times have we seen this happen? several times... except for the last part.. lol100% runspeed buff as ancient spell for bards in t8 pls... if we cant fight worth [Removed for Content] atleast make us good at running away.... __________________ Whiskers without loosing Eyes in '08!

09-28-2007, 04:41 AM	#12
RaunII Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 391	maybe i missed something, but i got selos excelerando on my little trouby and it doesnt stack with SoW....when did this happen? does it stack with anything? so what, we dont even get a USEFULL speed buff now? 22% that doesnt stack with anything? woo [Removed for Content] whoo!

09-29-2007, 02:08 AM	#13
Kyle Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38	I've all but almost given up on this. I'll be turning my jboots into a mounted house item soon. Looks like I'll be saving up for a Rhino come Kunark. /sigh Everytime a druid/ranger zooms past me I die a little inside. __________________ Kyle, Skiller Woot!

10-01-2007, 09:03 AM	#14
Abi General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 56	Well, I dont know why the bards community dont fight for things like that... I mean come on, if a ranger or druid asks for some things they get that in the next patch, why couldnt we do stuff like thatt?? __________________

10-02-2007, 08:11 PM	#15
Spider Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,112	Max bard speed 46 % ooc 12 in stacks with jbbots for another 10 % ooc and if your a fae or arusai an addition 5 % in and out of combat for a total of 61% ooc 17 % in combat thats all said and done fairly imspessive and of course it all stacks with doag swill and the new russion vodka " width="15" height="15" />

10-05-2007, 01:12 AM	#16
Rayle General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 70	being someone who played a bard all my eq1 life... i can confidently sit here and agree with you guys... run speed SHOULD be the bards domain... back pre kunark on eqlive... Selos was THE reason i rolled my bard, when it took 30-45min to run across ant with no sow... then they gave us the runspeed/invis/seeinvis/lev song with kunark, and omg... everytime we had to run across DL... everyone would /autofollow the bard and afk... by the time they got back we were at our destination

11-05-2007, 06:58 AM	#17
Kyle Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38	Abian wrote: Well, I dont know why the bards community dont fight for things like that... I mean come on, if a ranger or druid asks for some things they get that in the next patch, why couldnt we do stuff like thatt?? " /> Look at how many topics there are on it. We have tried. Everyone is tired of trying - it's never going to happen. __________________ Kyle, Skiller Woot!

11-16-2007, 06:05 PM	#18
missing_peace Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90	Don't give up hope. There is always a chance that someone will see the light and set things to the way they should be. Kunark should have introduce a selo's upgrade at level 69 at a minimum. Mount's have gotten faster. Race abilities have been added that increase runspeed. Other classes are still faster on foot than bards and they spend fewer achievement points to get there. I suggest changing the level 54 version to 36% (up from 34%) so that the previous 6% increase continues. Add in a level 69 version that is 42%. Add a tier 8 version that is 48%. Set in combat runspeed to be 1/4 of out of combat for all versions of selo's. Remove the achievement that adds additional runspeed and replace it with something new. There. Bards can run at a max 48%. Players no longer feel that they have to "waste" achievement points to obtain something that they felt should be a given and everyone walks away a little bit happier. Still slower than mounts, but at least I could hold onto my self respect.

11-17-2007, 05:04 PM	#19
inshiningarmor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 72	45% run speed totem for the win that stacks better then Selo's FTW!

11-17-2007, 05:21 PM	#20
Cadori Seraphim Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 965	inshiningarmor wrote: 45% run speed totem for the win that stacks better then Selo's FTW! This is what pisses me off the most. Don't get me wrong, I am super glad they added this totem.. its awesome. But the fact that Bard's cant out do that is bullcrap.. added to that.. the classes who can sow should at least get a lesser version sow then the totem, like previously done. (sow is 20% speed and the prior totem is 24% speed)

11-19-2007, 04:03 AM	#21
Snublefot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 208	Maybe a 45s speedbuff with 43s recast? With 0.5s cast time and you have to stand still to cast. Bards version of feign death. If this also included an in-combat speedbuff like our AA-line I would call it a winner. __________________ Level 81 Troubador Level 71 Provisioner