Transf to PvP

[Kram337]

On EQ1 they allow transfers to and from the PVP server. But they dont currently do that on EQ2. What are your thoughts on the topic? might mean more players to kill

[Mildavyn]

No, no, no, no, no!

I played on the PvP test servers when the PvE toons were allowed to xfer to them. Let me just say that the PvE toons have had alot more time to raid, they (in general) have alot more/better gear, their inexperience in PvP combat is offset by the fact that they are HUGELY more powerful than any toons on the PvP servers atm.

I remember one fight on the test server, where a dirge (!!!) killed me with 3 arrows. His auto-attacks were landing for more damage than most PvP rangers.

Just say NO to PvE -> PvP transfers

(If they want to transfer without any gear or coin, then i have no problems.)

[Kram337]

I've got a two 70's and a 60 on PvE servers and to be honest I'm just totally bored on PvE. It's like "why am I building up these chars?" just so they can sit around and look good? I've started over on PvP but I've gone thru the levels so many times and I'd really rather just transf one of the characters I've already leveled over to PvP. And to be honest, even though I've put lots of hours into gearing those PvE characters I'd be willing to lose all gear/coin to make the transfer. So naked transfers wouldn't be so bad?

[EQ2Playa432]

Well. I'm thinking why not let em come, but strip off gear. Let them keep their coin, but no gear.

[Mildavyn]

I personally would accept nekid xfers, but I know many who wouldn't.

[Magius789]

No coin either, that way they have to suffer through the crazy high prices stuff is on a pvp server!

[Mildavyn]

You know what they'll have to do if they come over nekid AND broke dont you? Do we really want that kind of thing in (y)our citys?

EDIT: Spelling > me

[Greggthegrmreapr]

No.  <----  Notice the period.

[Norrsken]

Nekkid transfers, sure. But to do it, they must have a toon on the pvp servers already, a toon of at least lvl 30 or something so that we wont get rampant whinage about how they got their face beat in so bad they'll [Removed for Content] teeth for for months. Because, pvp is a whole other cookie than pve. Even if a toon came over in full EoF fabled sets, they wouldnt stand much chance if they hadnt faced pvp before. So, nekkid transfers, and having to have pvp toons already so they know what they are getting themselves into. We have enough whines as it is.

[Prophecy]

Naked transfers. All for it. A+++++ Fast Delivery!

[Mildavyn]

After thinking about this again, I don't have a problem with the PvE toons transfering over (no gear, all quests reset, empty bank/vault/inventory no coin etc) But i honestly think that it would be better for all involved if they were not ever allowed to transfer. Seriously if you want to PvP that badly, roll a toon on the PvP servers. You can even use the same name as your old toon on another server. If leveling through those 70 levels again is a problem for you, start on Vox (station Exchange) and buy your level 70 toon.

Without the PvP experience of having leveled to 70, you will get tromped time after time after time, especially on a toon that's wearing common crafted gear or treasured drops. Until you have atleast mastercrafted and adept IIIs, you will lose. Alot.

Playing on PvP is alot different to playing on PvE. It's almost like two different games.

[Siphar]

Transfer without gear/coin or certain HQ lines which woul dbe reset like claymore/sword of destiny.

They could only transfer between the PvP servers then as it currently stands.

I'd like some fresh meat to kill

[Grayspirit]

Kram337 wrote:

I've got a two 70's and a 60 on PvE servers and to be honest I'm just totally bored on PvE. It's like "why am I building up these chars?" just so they can sit around and look good?

I've always wanted to be around when someone became enlightened to that fact. It's almost like someone figured out the jokes on them finally.

[Squishy]

I personally am against the idea of even a naked transfer.   The trail by fire of a leveling up on a pvp server, maxing AA for your level, and learning the ropes  is essential to the pvp experience.   The idea that a character can circumvent this, level in complete safety and do all opposing faction quests with ease, just isn't right.   Anyways it helps you learn the ropes of a pvp server.   

[AndrewSquared]

Broncas@Nagafen wrote:

Kram337 wrote:

I've got a two 70's and a 60 on PvE servers and to be honest I'm just totally bored on PvE. It's like "why am I building up these chars?" just so they can sit around and look good?

I've always wanted to be around when someone became enlightened to that fact. It's almost like someone figured out the jokes on them finally.

And that's why I started over on PvP, once I found out my SK can't be transfered from a blue server, it made me sad.

My take on it, let them transfer over, sans fabled gear. They'll have legendary gear at best, which you can mostly get equivelent from doing intances. Most of the dedicated PvPers will have gear from PvP rewards (which, btw people on the blue servers drool over).

Definetley should not take away quest rewards from people though, the amount of time you have to sink into those is huge (as I'm sure you're aware) and stripping all those days of work would be just mean.

The best solution for me: Open up transfers with release of the new expansion, all the fables and "phat lewts" people have recieved from raiding will mean FAR less. I know if that happened, my SK would come running over in a heartbeat.

[WasFycksir]

I would love to bring my fury over from Mistmoore, nekkid or not, I am all for transfers.

But yeh, naked and coin/bankless has to be the way to go.  Or maybe treasured gear and 1 plat, just to get rolling.  As far as HQ rewards go, maybe strip the current item(s), but allow them to buy them back from that NPC after a month or two on the new server.

[rvbarton]

reset the character, strip all money & items & AA from them.  Basically let them start over at whatever level they were when transferred.

[Strums]

I personaly think that the people on blue servers that DO raid and have really good raid gear would not come over in the first place.  Sure, alot of them went to test just to play around, but I highly doubt that whole fabled out guilds would come running...

I think the ONLY people that would even bother with a transfer are people who allready play on the pvp servers, and who had mains they started on blue servers prior to pvp release.  Most of these players stoped playing their toons prior to EOF release also, so likley they will have 50 aa at max, and probably KOS raid gear.

I know I have a few toons that I would like to bring over, but stripping someone of their gear / coin is not the awnser.  Well establised raid guild are NOT going to flock to the pvp servers, I promise you that.  Most pve guilds are baised off both factions, heck I can not think of one that is not on a pve server.  You really think they will split their guild up like that just for a shot at pvp?  I think not.

If nothing else, allowing transfers on & off the pvp servers should be allowed.  It will bring more life to the pvp servers, and give more targets to kill.  Sure its unfair that they got to lvl in saftey of a blue server, and do quest their, but who really cares.  If you really think any non-pvper is going to come over here and roll your face, again you are wrong.  Just because someone has really good gear dose not make them a good pvper...these guys will be the laughingstock's of the server...out getting pwnt by players with gear well below theirs.

Allow transfers, gear and all.

[Ashen-Shugar]

Kalian@Nagafen wrote:

Well. I'm thinking why not let em come, but strip off gear. Let them keep their coin, but no gear.

I would agree . I would let them keep spells and cash (we don;t want super rich PvE toons tearing up the economy and sending rare prices throught roof ) but make them drop there gear - it will be good for a few reasons .. increase in pop - people would be coming here to PvP as they would probably be people bored stiff of PvE They would get PVP gear to replace all there raids stuff anyways

[Magnis]

if this does happen I can only imagine the type of name calling and degrating someone just becuase a tranfy pownded a PVP veteran.  Cant wait to read those posts.

[Mildavyn]

Strums wrote:

Just because someone has really good gear dose not make them a good pvper...these guys will be the laughingstock's of the server...out getting pwnt by players with gear well below theirs.

Allow transfers, gear and all.

Tell that to the Dirge (DIRGE!!) who killed me with 3 bow auto-attacks on the test server. Nekid AND broke, or not at all. Oh, and to stop people from just grinding quests and then coming over, strip their AA as well.

[Strums]

Paikis@Venekor wrote:

Strums wrote:

Just because someone has really good gear dose not make them a good pvper...these guys will be the laughingstock's of the server...out getting pwnt by players with gear well below theirs.

Allow transfers, gear and all.

Tell that to the Dirge (DIRGE!!) who killed me with 3 bow auto-attacks on the test server. Nekid AND broke, or not at all. Oh, and to stop people from just grinding quests and then coming over, strip their AA as well.

And people who are allready on the pvp server can not 3 shot someone with a bow?  I have seen it done several times, even by a troub =P

[AndrewSquared]

Paikis@Venekor wrote:

Strums wrote:

Just because someone has really good gear dose not make them a good pvper...these guys will be the laughingstock's of the server...out getting pwnt by players with gear well below theirs.

Allow transfers, gear and all.

Tell that to the Dirge (DIRGE!!) who killed me with 3 bow auto-attacks on the test server. Nekid AND broke, or not at all. Oh, and to stop people from just grinding quests and then coming over, strip their AA as well.

Build a bridge, and get over it already.

The person transfering is paying $50 dollars to be able to do this transfer already. To tell them that there going to be a completely naked, penniless, skill-less, AA-less toon who just happens to be lvl 70 is crap and also, noone will transfer, as it won't be worth it, which is probably the goal you're trying to achieve.

P.S. To give your concern of UBER-dirges running around, W.T.F.-pwning troubadours all around, I can say, that as someone who played a dirge to 70, the person you faced only killed you like that because of either a bug, your ridiculously pathetic gear (if applicable), or he had the absolutely most stupid-unheard of gear ever, and got 3 crits in a row.

edits: Typos

[Siphar]

• Naked (no gear/coin)
• Reset AA
• Reset quests

/enable transfer

[Strums]

AndrewSquared wrote:

P.S. To give your concern of UBER-dirges running around, W.T.F.-pwning troubadours all around, I can say, that as someone who played a dirge to 70, the person you faced only killed you like that because of either a bug, your ridiculously pathetic gear (if applicable), or he had the absolutely most stupid-unheard of gear ever, and got 3 crits in a row.

Not to mention they were basicly handing out what ever gear you asked for on test.  Their were people who were using items that have not even been disco on the pvp server yet.

[Magius789]

and all spells should be reset to app 1 as well.  None of this I got all my masters on PvE and transfered over.  Decent gear and upgraded spells, in my opinion, make up about 80% of what you can do in PvP and how good you are...

[Mildavyn]

Strums wrote:

 Their were people who were using items that have not even been disco on the pvp server yet.

Yes, but those items HAVE been discovered on the PvE servers.

As for Mr.Build-a-bridge If the levels weren't the reason why you wanted to transfer over, why not simply roll a new toon? It's free after all! At the time I was wearing an almost complete set of PvP gear (only missing my hat and shoulders) all adorned and mostly fabled jewelery. All stats except WIS were above 500, INT frequently around 700 and I had atleast 6k in all resists. My gear was fine. The reason that dirge killed me with 3 bow auto-attacks is because he had the gear that people on PvE servers are able to get, and DO HAVE.

Nekid, no AAs, no cash.

[AndrewSquared]

Paikis@Venekor wrote:

Strums wrote:

 Their were people who were using items that have not even been disco on the pvp server yet.

Yes, but those items HAVE been discovered on the PvE servers.

As for Mr.Build-a-bridge If the levels weren't the reason why you wanted to transfer over, why not simply roll a new toon? It's free after all! At the time I was wearing an almost complete set of PvP gear (only missing my hat and shoulders) all adorned and mostly fabled jewelery. All stats except WIS were above 500, INT frequently around 700 and I had atleast 6k in all resists. My gear was fine. The reason that dirge killed me with 3 bow auto-attacks is because he had the gear that people on PvE servers are able to get, and DO HAVE.

Nekid, no AAs, no cash.

The people that do have that gear, aren't the people who are going to transfer.

I did roll a new toon.

Nakeds fine, leave the AA's, leave some cash to at least buy mastercrafted gear, re-set any spells to adept 3 that were Master 1.

I still say, the best way to do it, is to open up the transfers at the release of the new expansion, their crazy gear will quickly diminish in value as people get the next tier of gear.

[Mildavyn]

Why reset their skills? Let them keep their masters. Just no gear and no cash, or perhaps only 5p or something.

As for their gear diminishing... how do you know it will? Some of the effects on that gear are insane, especially the avatar gear. It'd have to be some stupidly overpowered gear that replaces the dirge's 3-peice set bonus for example.

[Strums]

I just dont see why everyone is so hellbent on people not having their gear.  Do you really think the people who do have eof fabled are going to transfer in the first place?

And if you do send people over nekid and broke, how are they supose to get any gear?  Beg players for coin so they can buy tresaured gear?  The only was it would ever successfuly work would just be to allow the transfer with all gear / coin.  Do it like was mentioned above, and do it when an expansion hits.