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Unread 06-13-2007, 02:59 PM   #1
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Without stating the obvious..Swash is Good ...Brigand is evil...what are the differences between these classes. I realize they are both dps but how are they diff and who excels in where

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Unread 06-15-2007, 11:42 AM   #2
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Since I was Swash once and betrayed to Bring (I like the Brigand Playstyle more): First of all we both debuff While Brigands cripple the mobs defense by loads Dispatch Devitalize Rake debuffs almost 6000 physical and magical mit Swashbucklers debuff more the offense Skills of a mob a little mob defense too , Brigands debuff also a little offense but not much apart from haste and STR , Swashs cant compete with Brigands in the debuff department Swashbucklers are very good in the AE dmg  department 2 AE combat arts , Hurricane thats a perma spell that let ur Auto attack at master I proc on a 55% chance aa enhanced on up to 4 mobs their CA recast timers are slightly lower than Brigs and deal more DMG than Brig ones thats the tradeoff for the superior Debuffs Brigands have Swashs also get a spell called Inspiration which let em win Burst Fights its 100% melee dmg proc which is up for 13sec and combined with some other buffs from a dirge for example they unleash hell with it , or did 100% procs got changed double attack doesnt trigger em anymore if I got it right Brigands add a lot of overall dps I would say 5k each brig in a raid situation Brigands and Swashbucklers soloability is pretty much the same while swashs work with their DPS mostly to get mobs down Brigands have a big Array of stuns When it comes to tanking mutiple mobs then the swash pretty much wins since he holds a way better AE aggro since Brigands basically lack AE dmg We both got a Taunt but i consider them as a fluff spell never use em when i tank  vs Single Target we hold aggro the same as Swashs if the mob we fight isnt stun immune we get Subterfuge which is nice for aggro and also decent for Soloing had some close to 5k dmg with it already and it works a bit like Rescue
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Unread 06-15-2007, 03:23 PM   #3
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I think... think... if I heard this correctly, that a Swishy can also rez, and charm a mob... not sure if it's still doable, but that was last year anyway. Anybody?
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Unread 06-15-2007, 03:43 PM   #4
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If we could Rez and Charm, we would be gods.
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Unread 06-15-2007, 03:48 PM   #5
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Think you are thinking of bards...  the dirge can rez while the troubie can charm (sorta SMILEY)
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Unread 06-15-2007, 04:34 PM   #6
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i´m not that familiar with brig or swash, but a good friend got a swash and my girl plays a brig. got both in one grp: swash does a bit more dmg then brig (not that much at all), in grps a bit more. but the ae-autoattack is sorta.... not realy needed, if fights are close to another encounter, which can lead to an whipe. anyhow, do i understand right? a brig with 5k raid-dps? o_O how?
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Unread 06-16-2007, 12:41 AM   #7
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Some main points: Debuffs - Brigands debuff mass amounts of mitigation, generally boosting raid dps, the more brigands the better. Swashbucklers debuff a fair bit of physical mitigation, and a good amount of avoidance, but their main focus is on offense skills of a mob. Lung Puncture is the dispatch-equivalent swash skill that removes a large chunk of melee/casting skills from a mob. Brigand debuffs can almost double the raid's dps, Swash debuffs can cut a mob's dps almost in half. Tanking - Brigands have great mitigation, and are good for tanking single target mobs. Swashbucklers have alot more avoidance, a fair bit less mitigation, and can hold aggro on several mobs at once, in encounter or not. DPS - Not touching that one with a 50' pole but as you can guess a brigand won't touch a swashy on a big group of mobs.
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Unread 06-16-2007, 08:23 AM   #8
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Zergosch wrote:
i´m not that familiar with brig oder swash, but a good friend got a swash and my girl plays a brig. got both in one grp: swash does a bit more dmg then brig (not that much at all), in grps a bit more. but the ae-autoattack is sorta.... not realy needed, if fights are close to another encounter, which can lead to an whipe. anyhow, do i understand right? a brig with 5k raid-dps? o_O how?
He was not saying a brig can do 5k raid-dps, he was saying having a brigand can increase a raids dps by 5k.  which is different.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 01:20 AM   #9
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Who would you say is better in the end game for taking out named heroics?
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Unread 07-12-2007, 07:44 AM   #10
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Solo on named probably brig.

Mainly because you're never gonna get hit. Difference in dmg between brig and swash is not too great, but brigs have a stun that's like 3 secs (cheap shot), a stun that is 7 seconds (low blow), an ability that roots the mob and prevents direction change for like 7 secs (restrain) and then if you choose..walk the plank which turns the mob away from you for 2-4 secs or something.

So basically between these abilities you should be able to easily beat ^^^'s without hardly being touched. Plus, we have thugs SMILEY Brigs just have a better array of abilities to keep a mob off of them while burning it down really fast.

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Unread 07-12-2007, 01:02 PM   #11
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those stun durrations he listed were way longer than they actually are SMILEY
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Unread 07-12-2007, 04:12 PM   #12
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not rlly.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 04:52 PM   #13
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ya rly. 2 sec, 4 sec, and 6 sec.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 05:38 PM   #14
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cheap shot is 3 secs with AA
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