Avoidance?

Volcanus · 05-06-2007, 10:10 PM

Just a quick question... How important is Avoidance to an SK, in both PvE and PvP circumstances?

Norrsken · 05-07-2007, 05:47 AM

Volcanus wrote:

Just a quick question... How important is Avoidance to an SK, in both PvE and PvP circumstances?

ITs important enought to have a decent avoidance, but we also want to be hit just enought o have our blessing get all used up before its time to recast it. SMILEY

totallynumb · 05-10-2007, 02:30 AM

What's decent? I can hit 45.7% self buffed. Gear is mostly KoS fabled.

Norrsken · 05-10-2007, 06:37 AM

totallynumb wrote:

What's decent? I can hit 45.7% self buffed. Gear is mostly KoS fabled.

Sounds decent. SMILEY

Are your blessing lasting as long as you wish and is your health staing comfortably high? And remember, against raid mobs, only block matter.

Nocifer Deathblade · 05-10-2007, 12:25 PM

Bottomline, try to hit 50% at least in avoidance, mitigaiton and resists cuz you get bigger return per point invested if you are well below 50%, anything over 50% surely slows down alot per point invested thanks to diminishing return.. Once you got 50% in all three areas then you are a solid tank in most situation..

Mixem · 05-10-2007, 08:36 PM

Lendari, you said that against raid mobs only Block matters. Not sure I understand. I can see how mitigation and avoidance would be severely decreased by say a lvl 75 mob, but even con or yellow mobs shouldnt avoidance and mit still be real important?

Nocifer Deathblade · 05-11-2007, 11:21 AM

Mixem wrote:

Lendari, you said that against raid mobs only Block matters. Not sure I understand. I can see how mitigation and avoidance would be severely decreased by say a lvl 75 mob, but even con or yellow mobs shouldnt avoidance and mit still be real important?

Block has UNCONTESTED avoidance. That means it gives flat % avoidance REGARDLESS of mob's level and its type (heroic and epic).. Other avoidance types are contested means higher and tougher mob, less % avoidance you will experience.. So.. Block is very important factor against raid mobs.. If you get 20% off block, you will avoid 20% no matter what mob you are fighting against grey or uber god epic lvl 100 mob. SMILEY

If you get 20% dodge from defense for example then you'll get maybe 0% dodge against uber god epic level 100..

Wytie · 05-11-2007, 11:48 AM

Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:

totallynumb wrote:
What's decent? I can hit 45.7% self buffed. Gear is mostly KoS fabled.
Sounds decent. Are your blessing lasting as long as you wish and is your health staing comfortably high? And remember, against raid mobs, only block matter.

NOT TRUE!

after the raid debuffs the Epic everything matters

your statment is only true on the second of the pull your raid will debuff the epic down to reality

05-07-2007, 05:47 AM	#2
Norrsken Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,450	Volcanus wrote: Just a quick question... How important is Avoidance to an SK, in both PvE and PvP circumstances? ITs important enought to have a decent avoidance, but we also want to be hit just enought o have our blessing get all used up before its time to recast it. __________________

05-10-2007, 02:30 AM	#3
totallynumb Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14	What's decent? I can hit 45.7% self buffed. Gear is mostly KoS fabled. __________________

05-10-2007, 06:37 AM	#4
Norrsken Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,450	totallynumb wrote: What's decent? I can hit 45.7% self buffed. Gear is mostly KoS fabled. Sounds decent. Are your blessing lasting as long as you wish and is your health staing comfortably high? And remember, against raid mobs, only block matter. __________________

05-10-2007, 12:25 PM	#5
Nocifer Deathblade Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 850	Bottomline, try to hit 50% at least in avoidance, mitigaiton and resists cuz you get bigger return per point invested if you are well below 50%, anything over 50% surely slows down alot per point invested thanks to diminishing return.. Once you got 50% in all three areas then you are a solid tank in most situation.. __________________ EQ I: Archfiend Nocifer Deathblade -Retired Fall '06, Bristlebane Server Vampire Cavalier, 80 Armorer, 390Transmuter, 138 AP, 2.3M Guild Status Points

05-10-2007, 08:36 PM	#6
Mixem Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	Lendari, you said that against raid mobs only Block matters. Not sure I understand. I can see how mitigation and avoidance would be severely decreased by say a lvl 75 mob, but even con or yellow mobs shouldnt avoidance and mit still be real important? __________________

05-06-2007, 10:10 PM	#1
Volcanus Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12	Just a quick question... How important is Avoidance to an SK, in both PvE and PvP circumstances?

05-11-2007, 11:21 AM	#7
Nocifer Deathblade Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 850	Mixem wrote: Lendari, you said that against raid mobs only Block matters. Not sure I understand. I can see how mitigation and avoidance would be severely decreased by say a lvl 75 mob, but even con or yellow mobs shouldnt avoidance and mit still be real important? Block has UNCONTESTED avoidance. That means it gives flat % avoidance REGARDLESS of mob's level and its type (heroic and epic).. Other avoidance types are contested means higher and tougher mob, less % avoidance you will experience.. So.. Block is very important factor against raid mobs.. If you get 20% off block, you will avoid 20% no matter what mob you are fighting against grey or uber god epic lvl 100 mob. If you get 20% dodge from defense for example then you'll get maybe 0% dodge against uber god epic level 100.. __________________ EQ I: Archfiend Nocifer Deathblade -Retired Fall '06, Bristlebane Server Vampire Cavalier, 80 Armorer, 390Transmuter, 138 AP, 2.3M Guild Status Points

05-11-2007, 11:48 AM	#8
Wytie Mouse Betrayer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,579	Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote: totallynumb wrote: What's decent? I can hit 45.7% self buffed. Gear is mostly KoS fabled. Sounds decent. Are your blessing lasting as long as you wish and is your health staing comfortably high? And remember, against raid mobs, only block matter. NOT TRUE! after the raid debuffs the Epic everything matters your statment is only true on the second of the pull your raid will debuff the epic down to reality __________________