Are there really to many Fury's ?

Hardhitter · 05-01-2007, 09:40 PM

Hi guys, coming back after a few years and going to start a new account. I really like the druids and a Fury is what I am planning on.

Will I still get the groups ? or would a Warden be the way to go? I would trade Fury DPS for groups. Also on that note what is the most populated server (non-pvp) atm?

Thanks a bunch.

ke'la · 05-01-2007, 09:53 PM

Hardhitter wrote:

Hi guys, coming back after a few years and going to start a new account. I really like the druids and a Fury is what I am planning on.
Will I still get the groups ? or would a Warden be the way to go? I would trade Fury DPS for groups. Also on that note what is the most populated server (non-pvp) atm?
Thanks a bunch.

There is no such thing as too many Healers (though Fury is TFM for healers) so you will get groups as a Fury. As far as the most populated server, the best way to find out is to log in at your normal play time and look for a server near the bottom of the Server list, as the server list goes from least Populated to most at the time your currently trying to access them.

Cathars · 05-02-2007, 12:34 AM

IMO, there's far far too many druids running around these days, and too few shamans. In a group, a healer is a healer is a healer, but you enter a situation that requires more than one healer and stacking two of the same just doesnt cut it. I really think alot of the problem stems from this forum when people ask for class advice. Yes, a fury has the best healer dps, but being able to kill solo mobs 25% faster just doesnt compensate for being druid number 4873. A healthy server has balanced class distribution.

Melchiah · 05-02-2007, 03:20 AM

If Chel'Drak is any indication of what's to come (with archetype-specific adds, and in his case, healer adds that MUST go down fast) in future content, more furies can never be a bad thing.

Wrapye · 05-02-2007, 10:57 AM

I recently did some number-crunching for another question on this forum, and from that I can tell you that furies are one of the most numerous class in the game, certainly the most numerous healer. By the time you get to 61+, the only class with more characters on the servers is wizard (who is #1 at pretty much any level).

Ebjelen · 05-02-2007, 11:00 AM

Druids became the FoTM after the druid rings came back in with EoF. That's half the reason there are so many.

Antonia Bayle used to be the biggest server, with Lucan D'Lere close behind. Those are the RP servers. It seems roleplay is very popular. That's probably changed with the merger of the Euro PvP servers into Venekor. Things change day to day anyway. So, this is just a guess for now.

Melchiah · 05-02-2007, 12:08 PM

Wrapye wrote:

I recently did some number-crunching for another question on this forum, and from that I can tell you that furies are one of the most numerous class in the game, certainly the most numerous healer. By the time you get to 61+, the only class with more characters on the servers is wizard (who is #1 at pretty much any level).

I bet half those wizards have random names and steal loot when they're in pickup groups.

DoomClam · 05-02-2007, 03:21 PM

THere aren't so many Furies that you'll feel useless or unwanted - they stack together like Legos. More important is choosing a class you enjoy. My 2c.

McDohl · 05-05-2007, 10:51 AM

Ebjelen wrote:

It seems roleplay is very popular.

Not quuuuite. You find an infinitly larger amount of people that stare at you with blank expressions going "Whuts RP? lol" than not. Those people come because of the 'high population', which is mainly caused because those people come expecting a high population -_-;. If so many non-RPers didn't come to AB, then you might actually see the ratio of RP:NonRP increase. But anyway, /hijackthreadfinished.

antwar · 05-09-2007, 11:39 AM

i like druids in general, but i find that there are far too few warders and pure healers, such as the mystics and templars. mystics are always nice, because if you choose your ward choice on every master 2 choice level, you become really helpful, and the healers have to heal FAR less. in single groups, a warder with a fury for backup is ideal imo, because the warder can prevent all damage up to a certain total ammount on the tank, which translates into far fewer heals. and wards themselves cost less power for a warder than the heals for the ammount of damage prevented/fixed on the tank. generally, the idea is to ward the tank before he/she pulls, but also before he/she actually gets the agro. that way, the tank has a ward to start out with. they warders also get group wards that ward the entire group, which can help if you have a wizzy or other mage in the group constantly ganking agro off the tank. if the mage continues in this behavior though, even after being told to watch his/her agro, i would not ward them and just let them die. death seems to be a good motivatior for behavioral change SMILEY

personally, i dont play druids, because i like to be different then the majority of everyone else, and i can tell you from experience when grouping with my baby mystic, i feel awesome when i hear from the group "wow, these mobs were hard yesterday when the group i was in wiped 5 times in a row... awesome group!!" this is not to say i would not feel the same if i was on a druid and got these comments, but i seem to get far more praise from groups as a good warder than a good druid. i do not know why, but ill take what i can get. SMILEY

Ba · 05-10-2007, 07:02 PM

1. You can't really play a class-based MMORPG and expect to be able to feel unique

2. There is a lot of every class so just play what suits YOU. Speculation: People that try to pick a class based on how uncommon they are often have insecurity issues in real life -- ie. they NEED to feel special. Imho.

3. Unless your in a raid situation or a group that absolutely needs two healers with no overlap then one Druid is all you need. Both Fury and Warden are strong powerful healers that can handle healing on 90% of the heroic content in the game AND often do good DPS while doing it - though you should always focus on HEALING & CURING when in a group, only DPS when its safe to do so (remember the other group member are RELYING on you to keep them alive).

4. In my opinion the Druid (both Fury and Warden) is the fun-nest, fastest and most versatile priest class out there (they are also the busiest and require the most attention to play effectively). There is very little they cannot do -- and do fairly well.

Though I have to say, having played most of the classes to at least L30 all the Priests in EQ2 really shine in their own ways -- ie. they are all good fun and very capable. I just hate it when people knock on Druids just because they are popular.

Cathars · 05-10-2007, 08:02 PM

Sure, a druid is a fine group healer. They all are. My point remains that an inaccurate picture is painted in this forum. The vast majority of the time the answer to 'what class should I play?' is 'fury'. Its usually in response to 'I want to solo well and be wanted in groups' ... well, the whole truth is that every class fits that description. There seems to be this outdated mentality that healers are hard to come by when my personal experience when forming a pickup group is the hardest part is filling the 4 dps spots. But even that varries from day to day and hour to hour. The devs have done a great job at making every class viable in a group and duplication of classes an ineffective setup.

Just seems that everyone is steered toward a druid class in this forum. The reality is that every class is solos well and every class is wanted in groups. And an uneven class distribution on servers is very unhealthy. Beforing listening to class advice, dig a little deeper. Newbies need to try out different archetypes, review spell lists, etc. What needs to be made very clear is that this is NOT WoW or EQ1. Approach it with a clean slate and make a class decision based on first-hand information from playing various classes.

Winterborne · 05-10-2007, 08:10 PM

The answer is yes, there are too many furys. Maybe it's a good class in which to learn the game. Go for it. Make another fury...and another...and if it really pleases you, fill all your character slots with furies of every kind. And when you're completely sick of being a fury, maybe open a slot and try something new.

CresentBlade · 05-10-2007, 08:48 PM

Bayl wrote:

1. You can't really play a class-based MMORPG and expect to be able to feel unique
2. There is a lot of every class so just play what suits YOU. Speculation: People that try to pick a class based on how uncommon they are often have insecurity issues in real life -- ie. they NEED to feel special. Imho.
3. Unless your in a raid situation or a group that absolutely needs two healers with no overlap then one Druid is all you need. Both Fury and Warden are strong powerful healers that can handle healing on 90% of the heroic content in the game AND often do good DPS while doing it - though you should always focus on HEALING & CURING when in a group, only DPS when its safe to do so (remember the other group member are RELYING on you to keep them alive).
4. In my opinion the Druid (both Fury and Warden) is the fun-nest, fastest and most versatile priest class out there (they are also the busiest and require the most attention to play effectively). There is very little they cannot do -- and do fairly well.
Though I have to say, having played most of the classes to at least L30 all the Priests in EQ2 really shine in their own ways -- ie. they are all good fun and very capable. I just hate it when people knock on Druids just because they are popular.

Above large sentence just seems like a really wierd thing to post.

On PvP servers that are more druids then anything now, and on the none PvP servers there seems to be alot also. If you just playing on a Non PvP server play anything you want and will have fun with. The only thing having alot of one class means is your gonna pay alot for equipment and spell/skill upgrades.

Thunderthyze · 05-11-2007, 07:20 AM

My first character was a Mystic....started out maybe a year into the game....eventually got him to 70 as 49th on the server. Didn't occur to me at the time that soloing was extremely slow...didn't know any better. It did however put me off playing another healer for quite some time though. The other day I rolled a warden and could not believe how EASY it was to solo. The dps makes such a HUGE difference. Have to say that the trade off is in grouping. My mystic can keep a group up forever (or so close you can throw sticks at it) whereas the warden EATS manna while healing.

My take, for what its worth, is that the druids make for really fun soloing/duoing while the shamen provides his jollies in a group environment. Horses for courses I suppose. Can see myself rolling an Inquisitor Arasai next month just to try out the final healer class.

05-01-2007, 09:53 PM	#2
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Hardhitter wrote: Hi guys, coming back after a few years and going to start a new account. I really like the druids and a Fury is what I am planning on. Will I still get the groups ? or would a Warden be the way to go? I would trade Fury DPS for groups. Also on that note what is the most populated server (non-pvp) atm? Thanks a bunch. There is no such thing as too many Healers (though Fury is TFM for healers) so you will get groups as a Fury. As far as the most populated server, the best way to find out is to log in at your normal play time and look for a server near the bottom of the Server list, as the server list goes from least Populated to most at the time your currently trying to access them. __________________

05-02-2007, 10:57 AM	#5
Wrapye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 912	I recently did some number-crunching for another question on this forum, and from that I can tell you that furies are one of the most numerous class in the game, certainly the most numerous healer. By the time you get to 61+, the only class with more characters on the servers is wizard (who is #1 at pretty much any level). __________________

05-02-2007, 11:00 AM	#6
Ebjelen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 412	Druids became the FoTM after the druid rings came back in with EoF. That's half the reason there are so many. Antonia Bayle used to be the biggest server, with Lucan D'Lere close behind. Those are the RP servers. It seems roleplay is very popular. That's probably changed with the merger of the Euro PvP servers into Venekor. Things change day to day anyway. So, this is just a guess for now. __________________ -- Just because everyone does IT doesn't mean IT is right. EQ2 is an entertainment venue. The only measure of success here is fun.

05-02-2007, 12:08 PM	#7
Melchiah Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 224	Wrapye wrote: I recently did some number-crunching for another question on this forum, and from that I can tell you that furies are one of the most numerous class in the game, certainly the most numerous healer. By the time you get to 61+, the only class with more characters on the servers is wizard (who is #1 at pretty much any level). I bet half those wizards have random names and steal loot when they're in pickup groups.

05-05-2007, 10:51 AM	#9
McDohl Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 43	Ebjelen wrote: It seems roleplay is very popular. Not quuuuite. You find an infinitly larger amount of people that stare at you with blank expressions going "Whuts RP? lol" than not. Those people come because of the 'high population', which is mainly caused because those people come expecting a high population -_-;. If so many non-RPers didn't come to AB, then you might actually see the ratio of RP:NonRP increase. But anyway, /hijackthreadfinished.

05-01-2007, 09:40 PM	#1
Hardhitter Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	Hi guys, coming back after a few years and going to start a new account. I really like the druids and a Fury is what I am planning on. Will I still get the groups ? or would a Warden be the way to go? I would trade Fury DPS for groups. Also on that note what is the most populated server (non-pvp) atm? Thanks a bunch.

05-02-2007, 12:34 AM	#3
Cathars General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 446	IMO, there's far far too many druids running around these days, and too few shamans. In a group, a healer is a healer is a healer, but you enter a situation that requires more than one healer and stacking two of the same just doesnt cut it. I really think alot of the problem stems from this forum when people ask for class advice. Yes, a fury has the best healer dps, but being able to kill solo mobs 25% faster just doesnt compensate for being druid number 4873. A healthy server has balanced class distribution.

05-02-2007, 03:20 AM	#4
Melchiah Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 224	If Chel'Drak is any indication of what's to come (with archetype-specific adds, and in his case, healer adds that MUST go down fast) in future content, more furies can never be a bad thing.

05-02-2007, 03:21 PM	#8
DoomClam Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	THere aren't so many Furies that you'll feel useless or unwanted - they stack together like Legos. More important is choosing a class you enjoy. My 2c.

05-09-2007, 11:39 AM	#10
antwar General Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 169	i like druids in general, but i find that there are far too few warders and pure healers, such as the mystics and templars. mystics are always nice, because if you choose your ward choice on every master 2 choice level, you become really helpful, and the healers have to heal FAR less. in single groups, a warder with a fury for backup is ideal imo, because the warder can prevent all damage up to a certain total ammount on the tank, which translates into far fewer heals. and wards themselves cost less power for a warder than the heals for the ammount of damage prevented/fixed on the tank. generally, the idea is to ward the tank before he/she pulls, but also before he/she actually gets the agro. that way, the tank has a ward to start out with. they warders also get group wards that ward the entire group, which can help if you have a wizzy or other mage in the group constantly ganking agro off the tank. if the mage continues in this behavior though, even after being told to watch his/her agro, i would not ward them and just let them die. death seems to be a good motivatior for behavioral change personally, i dont play druids, because i like to be different then the majority of everyone else, and i can tell you from experience when grouping with my baby mystic, i feel awesome when i hear from the group "wow, these mobs were hard yesterday when the group i was in wiped 5 times in a row... awesome group!!" this is not to say i would not feel the same if i was on a druid and got these comments, but i seem to get far more praise from groups as a good warder than a good druid. i do not know why, but ill take what i can get.

05-10-2007, 07:02 PM	#11
Ba General Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 249	1. You can't really play a class-based MMORPG and expect to be able to feel unique 2. There is a lot of every class so just play what suits YOU. Speculation: People that try to pick a class based on how uncommon they are often have insecurity issues in real life -- ie. they NEED to feel special. Imho. 3. Unless your in a raid situation or a group that absolutely needs two healers with no overlap then one Druid is all you need. Both Fury and Warden are strong powerful healers that can handle healing on 90% of the heroic content in the game AND often do good DPS while doing it - though you should always focus on HEALING & CURING when in a group, only DPS when its safe to do so (remember the other group member are RELYING on you to keep them alive). 4. In my opinion the Druid (both Fury and Warden) is the fun-nest, fastest and most versatile priest class out there (they are also the busiest and require the most attention to play effectively). There is very little they cannot do -- and do fairly well. Though I have to say, having played most of the classes to at least L30 all the Priests in EQ2 really shine in their own ways -- ie. they are all good fun and very capable. I just hate it when people knock on Druids just because they are popular.

05-10-2007, 08:02 PM	#12
Cathars General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 446	Sure, a druid is a fine group healer. They all are. My point remains that an inaccurate picture is painted in this forum. The vast majority of the time the answer to 'what class should I play?' is 'fury'. Its usually in response to 'I want to solo well and be wanted in groups' ... well, the whole truth is that every class fits that description. There seems to be this outdated mentality that healers are hard to come by when my personal experience when forming a pickup group is the hardest part is filling the 4 dps spots. But even that varries from day to day and hour to hour. The devs have done a great job at making every class viable in a group and duplication of classes an ineffective setup. Just seems that everyone is steered toward a druid class in this forum. The reality is that every class is solos well and every class is wanted in groups. And an uneven class distribution on servers is very unhealthy. Beforing listening to class advice, dig a little deeper. Newbies need to try out different archetypes, review spell lists, etc. What needs to be made very clear is that this is NOT WoW or EQ1. Approach it with a clean slate and make a class decision based on first-hand information from playing various classes.

05-10-2007, 08:10 PM	#13
Winterborne Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 154	The answer is yes, there are too many furys. Maybe it's a good class in which to learn the game. Go for it. Make another fury...and another...and if it really pleases you, fill all your character slots with furies of every kind. And when you're completely sick of being a fury, maybe open a slot and try something new. __________________ Innoruuk is coming. Look busy.

05-10-2007, 08:48 PM	#14
CresentBlade Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 756	Bayl wrote: 1. You can't really play a class-based MMORPG and expect to be able to feel unique 2. There is a lot of every class so just play what suits YOU. Speculation: People that try to pick a class based on how uncommon they are often have insecurity issues in real life -- ie. they NEED to feel special. Imho. 3. Unless your in a raid situation or a group that absolutely needs two healers with no overlap then one Druid is all you need. Both Fury and Warden are strong powerful healers that can handle healing on 90% of the heroic content in the game AND often do good DPS while doing it - though you should always focus on HEALING & CURING when in a group, only DPS when its safe to do so (remember the other group member are RELYING on you to keep them alive). 4. In my opinion the Druid (both Fury and Warden) is the fun-nest, fastest and most versatile priest class out there (they are also the busiest and require the most attention to play effectively). There is very little they cannot do -- and do fairly well. Though I have to say, having played most of the classes to at least L30 all the Priests in EQ2 really shine in their own ways -- ie. they are all good fun and very capable. I just hate it when people knock on Druids just because they are popular. Above large sentence just seems like a really wierd thing to post. On PvP servers that are more druids then anything now, and on the none PvP servers there seems to be alot also. If you just playing on a Non PvP server play anything you want and will have fun with. The only thing having alot of one class means is your gonna pay alot for equipment and spell/skill upgrades.

05-11-2007, 07:20 AM	#15
Thunderthyze Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 2,050	My first character was a Mystic....started out maybe a year into the game....eventually got him to 70 as 49th on the server. Didn't occur to me at the time that soloing was extremely slow...didn't know any better. It did however put me off playing another healer for quite some time though. The other day I rolled a warden and could not believe how EASY it was to solo. The dps makes such a HUGE difference. Have to say that the trade off is in grouping. My mystic can keep a group up forever (or so close you can throw sticks at it) whereas the warden EATS manna while healing. My take, for what its worth, is that the druids make for really fun soloing/duoing while the shamen provides his jollies in a group environment. Horses for courses I suppose. Can see myself rolling an Inquisitor Arasai next month just to try out the final healer class. __________________