EU PvP Populations Update #3

[Grimwell]

Howdy folks. It's time to give everyone another update on the state of the EU PvP populations. The good news is that this is just about the last update you will need to read. Why? Because the PvP merger tools are in place, tested, and just about ready to go. Where We Currently Stand The actual merge process that will bring the populations of Darathar, Gorenaire, and Talendor together with their new friends on Venekor will take approximately one day. The related week of free character transfers for all servers will last, yup seven days. After that seven day period passes, the free transfer window will close and normal services and rates will apply. As such, the scheduling of these events needs to take place in a timeframe when we have one full week to get it all done without interference. That means we can't have any major updates to the game going on at the same time that we are moving your characters about. Which means the server merge and character transfers have to wait until the next Game Update is in. Don't Shoot the Messenger! Wait! Don't get angry! That's good news! Why? Because it's a tricky way of saying "There is a Game Update coming in the next week!" That's right; Game Update #34 is slated to hit the live servers on April 25th, with the usual offset for our international friends. Because of that, the PvP merge and character transfers are going to get started on April 30th. This gives the dev team extra time to test the tools related to the merge and transfers, and also ensures that we won't have characters moving all about the servers at the same time that we are adding new fundamentals to the game itself. So, at long last, we have a concrete set of dates to share with you. For our friends in Europe, the light is now in full view at the end of the tunnel, and there are no more questions about when. In summation:

• Game Update 34 on April 25th.
• PvP server merges on April 30th.
• Then one week of free character transfers.

  I'd like to thank everyone for their patience while this was worked out.

[sprogn]

Woot, first!

What happens to those who have max characters on Euro and USA Servers already?

Great news btw!

Sproik

[MokiCh]

Second! Awesome news, I can't wait to meet all the new people, and kill them

[Greenion]

third...except im not in europe...glad to hear it though.

[TniEradani]

april 30. i really hope they're not going to change that for some reason. i can't help but notice that it comes on the date that so many people's subs run out. hmmm.

and grimwell, yes, he's only the messenger so please don't shoot him people, at least he came and told us. thanks btw.

--- craftaholic

[EQ2Playa432]

Thanks for the update. Are the free transfers 1 per char or are the free transfers unlimited per character?

[Gondwana]

2 words

Thank  You

[KaelVolorus]

Does this mean that Account to Account transfers will be open on the PVP servers as well?

[MaNiaGG84]

Finaly

Bad thing I own my old acc anymore, but then again .. starting from scratch is fun too. I guess.

[Grimwell]

KaelVolorus wrote:

Does this mean that Account to Account transfers will be open on the PVP servers as well?

Nope. Scott never put that on the table. You will be able to transfer characters between PvP servers, but not accounts. Sorry amigo.

[Radigazt]

Grimoires@Venekor wrote:

and grimwell, yes, he's only the messenger so please don't shoot him people.

--- craftaholic

That depends upon whether he rolls a a Qeynos or Freeport character ... and how long it takes him to finish the Exile quests.    Heheh, seriously though, thanks for the letting us know Grim.  I look forward to PvP'ing with and/or against  you soon. 

[enjoilab]

I love you !!!!!

[Captain Apple Darkberry]

EQ2Playa432 wrote:

Thanks for the update. Are the free transfers 1 per char or are the free transfers unlimited per character?

QFNeeding to be answered officially...

[enjoilab]

enjoilabel wrote:

I love you !!!!!

QFE

[dr4gonUK]

Thanks for the update.

[Amphibia]

Awesome Thanks for the update

[Demonkill]

Thanks for the update

[KaelVolorus]

Grimwell wrote:

KaelVolorus wrote:

Does this mean that Account to Account transfers will be open on the PVP servers as well?

Nope. Scott never put that on the table. You will be able to transfer characters between PvP servers, but not accounts. Sorry amigo.

If you don't mind my frustration, why not?  I've been posting in every thread dedicated to this issue explaining that it isn't working, I've called you guys 3 times asking about it, I've PMed 2 devs as well.  It's not like you were unaware.  Is there some sort of mechanic in the way of this?  I'm confounded, because the only reason I've been waiting on the PVP merges is so that I can transfer one character from one account to another.  It's not that difficult, and was possible before the CTS system was closed down for PVP servers. What is the reason for this, if you don't mind me asking, and will it be implemented?  I've been a double paying customer for 2 months, and I honestly feel I deserve an answer. Thanks in advance.

[Anrunya]

Bah so we miss the PvP extravaganza on 21 April Noooooooo

[Elwin]

Ok we're merging.... Yay took no time at all...

If we already have toons on Ven but only have 6 slots what happens there?

Do we delete them before the merge so we have a total of 6?

Do we still need to empty shared bank if we have toons on two servers?

I take it we will get some instruction on all this BEFORE IT HAPPENS?

And... it will be this year won't it?  

[Valdar]

Thank you for the update.

[Dodger Sunsoar]

Wow ...  they communicate to us.

thanks i guess.  but to be honest i'll belive it once it happens April 30th.

CHeers!

[Vonotar]

sprognak wrote:

What happens to those who have max characters on Euro and USA Servers already?

I notice this question was ignored, it's part of a much thornier issue that already has a 66 page thread (should be 70 but they keep deleting page 65 in the hope of stopping it getting bigger). If you have more than 10 PvP characters across all servers (with station access, or more than 6 with a regular account) prepare to join the thread below. http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=349828

[Dannd]

So, we finally get the news were moaning and groaning about and you are still being pessimistic!  And we wonder why they don't communicate more often.  Call me fanboi, call me whatever (prefer man thong loving pew pew Ranger tbh), but this is good news - really good news.

I'm assuming that we'll have to pick and choose which toons we want to keep, and which to delete.  Max amount of slots is 6 or 10 depending on subscription options.  I don't see SOE making an exception to that policy (that would just open up a door and set the standard from here on out).

I have the 10 character subscription service, so I have 10 toons on the American side of the house and 5 on the Euro side.  I'm going to do some soul searching and find out which I can part with.  Then again, I deleted my 70 toons to start fresh on PVP servers - I'm crazy like that.

The only thing I see that would push the 30 April due date to the right would be a delay in pushing the GU out.  It is "slated" for 25 April, doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen.

[Vonotar]

Jethal@Darathar wrote:

I'm assuming that we'll have to pick and choose which toons we want to keep, and which to delete.  Max amount of slots is 6 or 10 depending on subscription options.  I don't see SOE making an exception to that policy (that would just open up a door and set the standard from here on out).

And SoE are no doubt assuming that people don't mind deleting their hard work because they can't be bothered to put forward a proper slot-pricing structure. Delete your level 70's with pleasure, but some people have been gradually working on several alts, asking them to choose between them isn't going to fly. Let's face it, if people were that dismissive of their alts they would have already rolled characters on the US side and their EU PvP alts would be already 'dead' to them, in which case why are we merging anyway ??  (I am pro-merger for you guys, but i'm also pro-alt!). P.s. There is an old saying about the word Assume...

[Greenion]

"they would have already rolled characters on the US side and their EU PvP alts would be already 'dead' to them, in which case why are we merging anyway ?? "

====================

alot, i'd wager the majority, already did roll on us pvp servers, and the euro ones, yes, are too underpoppulated, (they were underpopulated to start with, when the former happened (players from the sparse population rolling on us pvp servers) it became less and less populated...hence the merger for those that are left and want it.

every pvpr knows what its like to lose an alt and reroll a toon, we all did this for pvp that played eqii prior to the pvp ruleset...

[Axiana]

KaelVolorus wrote:

Grimwell wrote:

KaelVolorus wrote:

Does this mean that Account to Account transfers will be open on the PVP servers as well?

Nope. Scott never put that on the table. You will be able to transfer characters between PvP servers, but not accounts. Sorry amigo.

If you don't mind my frustration, why not?  I've been posting in every thread dedicated to this issue explaining that it isn't working, I've called you guys 3 times asking about it, I've PMed 2 devs as well.  It's not like you were unaware.  Is there some sort of mechanic in the way of this?  I'm confounded, because the only reason I've been waiting on the PVP merges is so that I can transfer one character from one account to another.  It's not that difficult, and was possible before the CTS system was closed down for PVP servers. What is the reason for this, if you don't mind me asking, and will it be implemented?  I've been a double paying customer for 2 months, and I honestly feel I deserve an answer. Thanks in advance.

I have 11 characters I want to keep on my main account.  I need to move 1 of those to my 2nd account.  Most of these characters are either high level or crafters.  I need to move one to my 2nd account so I don't lose anyone.  I have moved characters around on my accounts before on the PvP servers, why not now at this most important time?

Please ask Scott to enable the account transfers please please please.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

[Dannd]

Magnamundian wrote:

Jethal@Darathar wrote:

I'm assuming that we'll have to pick and choose which toons we want to keep, and which to delete.  Max amount of slots is 6 or 10 depending on subscription options.  I don't see SOE making an exception to that policy (that would just open up a door and set the standard from here on out).

And SoE are no doubt assuming that people don't mind deleting their hard work because they can't be bothered to put forward a proper slot-pricing structure. Delete your level 70's with pleasure, but some people have been gradually working on several alts, asking them to choose between them isn't going to fly. Let's face it, if people were that dismissive of their alts they would have already rolled characters on the US side and their EU PvP alts would be already 'dead' to them, in which case why are we merging anyway ??  (I am pro-merger for you guys, but i'm also pro-alt!). P.s. There is an old saying about the word Assume...

P.s., I know the old saying btw.  Farbeit for me to make one.  I'd would understand your frustration more had you rolled a toon on Darathar and then on Nagafen, then rejoin Darathar with the hopes of a merge - one of which, we've been asking for for 11 months now.  But no, you're trolling our pvp forum to express your PoV regarding the 100 million alts you have and that it somehow relates to our issue.  I does, and it doesn't.

I was playing devil's advocate here.  In my humble opinion, if you believe this game to be work, dedication, yadda, yadda, then I can only assume that you should seek some social help.  This is a game = far from work.  Dunno about you, but after a hard days work (you do work, right?) this is my escape from work - but by no means does it take up my entire social life.

Sorry to go off on a tangent there for a second.  But, the fact of the matter is this:  Would it be beneficial for SOE to have a tiered character slot plan?  Maybe. 

Could SOE be bothered to implement such a plan after almost three years of the old plan working just fine?  Unlikely.

Petition till  yer blue in the face, and if you get what you want - then gratz.   Otherwise, just be thankful (for us pvp'rs) that our cries have been answered by the big red name in the sky.

Can we have our cake and eat it to?  Depends on what you like on your cake...

Take the merge for what it's worth, and just go with the flow people.  Sometimes, these forums are a constant dissection of this formula, or that formula; this cap or that cap, bleh.  Just be happy...

Fanboi ftw.

[Spyderbite]

/snickers @ the whiners - Predictability at its finest. Looking forward to all the fresh new names in my tracking window!

[pharacyde]

If you have more characters than your account allows you will see 6 or 10 characters when you log on the US servers after the merge. This doesn't mean you lost your other toons. You just don't see them. If you delete a toon out of the 6 or 10 that you see, you will see an hidden character again. This is how it worked for me when they restored too many characters for my account. The GM just told me, you can either let it be like that and upgrade your account, or you can delete the ones you don't need and the characters you need will appear afterwards. I suppose if you transfer instead of deleting a toon, the same effect will happen. Imo, you are allowed to a certain amount of characters for your account, if you go over it by taking profit of the several regional servers that's your own choice and problem. SoE realy has no bounds or reasons to fix that problem for you.