Master Chests dry'in up?

SeaDoo · 01-10-2007, 08:43 PM

Been doing allot of Instance runs lately. "Roost" "Cache" and the like. I / We will mentor our lower guild members for a chance to get them upgrades, but I haven't seen a master chest drop in a long while. Does the mentoring impact the drop rate? Does anyone have some information on this topic?Thanx In Advance...

Killerbee3000 · 01-10-2007, 09:02 PM

you are in t6 zones..... in those zones master's are far rarer than in any other tier.......i'm talking about you'll maybe see one in a week if you get lucky (with 6 peole in group that equals less than 1 spell per player and month).....if you want masters go to do tier 1-5 and t7 zones....... there you will easily see multiple per day.....

Mabes · 01-11-2007, 12:11 AM

Yeah I have noticed t6 master/legendary chests drop quite infrequently, having just finished that tier with an alt that did lots of instances. The only non-EoF t6 zone that seems to have decent master/legendary chest drop rate in t6 is poets palace.

jago quicksilver · 01-11-2007, 02:33 AM

IMO, the t6 instances are how the master chest drop rate should be, the market is flooded with masters, its ridiculous. even w/o the botters/farmers the markets would still be flooded.

Killerbee3000 · 01-11-2007, 02:43 AM

jago quicksilver wrote:IMO, the t6 instances are how the master chest drop rate should be, the market is flooded with masters, its ridiculous. even w/o the botters/farmers the markets would still be flooded.

while i agree with you that masters shouldnt drop as often as they do in t1-5 and t7, it cant be working as intended if they rae in t6 and in all other tiers common.

woolf2k · 01-11-2007, 02:51 AM

DoF doesn't drop Master chests anymore... Well. oviously this is an exageration...however, the master drops were nerfed sometime ago... I've never seen a master and rarely a legenday chest drop in those instances mentioned from the number of times I've been in those instances... I hear from players who went in those instances when DoF first came out that they used drop all the time...

Rahatmattata · 01-11-2007, 02:55 AM

On my server the market is flooded with all the same masters noone wants. The "good" masters are still rare. I always see like 3 pages of the same masters each and every day for the passed months. Everything I think is pure spectualation, but I'm a firm believer that the con of the mob effects drop rate (green mob low chance of fabled chest, yellow mob higher chance), the number of people in your group effect drop rate (solo you have a higher chance of getting a fabled chance than if you kill it in a duo or group of 6), and being mentored [Removed for Content] the drop rates (Had 5 level 70s mentoring to 38 and farming the hell out of Obelisk of Lost Souls for loots xp and AA, fabled chests were a rare thing, almost ALL were woodies). Now, I may or may not be wrong about those points, but that is my opinion I have made after playing for a long time. So, in my theory, for maximum chance at fabled loot you would need to kill yellow or orange named solo and unmentored.

Now, that being said, I run The Poet's Palace every day. Sometimes solo, usually duo, ocassionally in a group of 3-6. Solo and duo I'm averaging 1 master every 2 runs. If I'm in a group of 3 or more, we are lucky to see any metal at all. Duoing, I'm still averaging 1 master every 2 runs, however the other fabled and legendary "trash" gear doesn't seem to drop as often IMO. Coincidence? maybe... It wouldn't hurt my feelings any if they bumped the master drop rates in T6, or better yet... just make it freakin random.

Back to my first sentence: the same masters are being found and sold because certain masters have a higher chance of dropping than other "rare" masters IMO. Examples: Band of Thugs and Hardened are almost ALWAYS on the broker, and multiple copies of them. In a Breeding Grounds group, Hideaway Adept 1 dropped, literally 10-15 minutes later, Hideaway Master1 dropped off a trash heroic. Fallen Gate group, necro mage pet ad1 drops, followed by the M1 later. Runnyeye group, Sliver of Essence or whatever it's called (conjy shards) Ad1 drops, followed by the M1 later that night. Poet's Palace, Meteor Fist drops in 2 different runs back to back. Poet's Palace, level 55 Illusionist power tap Master 1 drops in 2 runs back to back. This kind of thing has happened many times, these are the only examples I remember specifically. I'd really prefer not having to keep farming for Dispatch for the next year or until the level cap rises only to have it replaced by a Tier 8 or 9 upgrade. That's just personal preference though, many people feel only a select and lucky few should have masters /shrug... To each their own.

SeaDoo · 01-11-2007, 02:57 AM

Have to say that's true. Cache was always good for at least one Master if not two, and this was around the time DOF came out.

Jayad · 01-11-2007, 03:06 AM

When DOF came out, it had a lot more master chests than T1-T5. In T1-T5, many of the original zones were redone with even better drop rates off of nameds and trash. KOS came out with the newer drop rates as well.

Siltha · 01-11-2007, 04:04 PM

I have been doing poet's palace solo almost daily for a few months now to find the last three masters I need. I usually had a master drop about every two runs and quite a few legendary. But in the last two weeks and around 12 runs I had no master drop at all and only one legendary chest. So I started wondering if the drop rate had been lowered. But then I went in with a group last weekend to quickly finish our PP:R access – and 2 masters dropped, lol. So I guess it's only the RNG scowling at me atm =/But yeah, I wouldn't mind a higher master drop rate in T6 instances. I think it's silly that you can buy T1-T5 and T7 masters for change on the brokers, but the T6 spells are rare as heck. Makes no sense really

superdave · 01-11-2007, 06:39 PM

got one off a solo tunarian in new tunaria.

Guy De Alsace · 01-13-2007, 07:41 AM

Spent 5 hours in Cazic Thule today with my Guardian alt. Killed multiple named - some 2 or 3 times. Did Ooze ring event and many others. We gained one legendary drop and no masters at all. Seemed either bugged or something had changed in there. I've been in CT a ton of times and even a quick run yields one or two masters and legendary. To be in for 5 hours and nothing worthwhile dropping seemed odd to me.

We did Acadechism the night before and got 3 masters and perhaps 5 legendary boxes.

Jayad · 01-13-2007, 07:44 AM

It's all random, guys. Some times you have good nights, sometimes you have bad nights. I've had a few nights in a row with nothing.

01-10-2007, 09:02 PM	#2
Killerbee3000 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: right behind you Posts: 1,802	you are in t6 zones..... in those zones master's are far rarer than in any other tier.......i'm talking about you'll maybe see one in a week if you get lucky (with 6 peole in group that equals less than 1 spell per player and month).....if you want masters go to do tier 1-5 and t7 zones....... there you will easily see multiple per day..... __________________ Whiskers without loosing Eyes in '08!

01-11-2007, 12:11 AM	#3
Mabes Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 376	Yeah I have noticed t6 master/legendary chests drop quite infrequently, having just finished that tier with an alt that did lots of instances. The only non-EoF t6 zone that seems to have decent master/legendary chest drop rate in t6 is poets palace. __________________ Tion - Templar \ Jeweler - Nektulos Varos - Assassin - Nektulos

01-11-2007, 02:43 AM	#5
Killerbee3000 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: right behind you Posts: 1,802	jago quicksilver wrote:IMO, the t6 instances are how the master chest drop rate should be, the market is flooded with masters, its ridiculous. even w/o the botters/farmers the markets would still be flooded. while i agree with you that masters shouldnt drop as often as they do in t1-5 and t7, it cant be working as intended if they rae in t6 and in all other tiers common. __________________ Whiskers without loosing Eyes in '08!

01-11-2007, 02:55 AM	#7
Rahatmattata Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,232	On my server the market is flooded with all the same masters noone wants. The "good" masters are still rare. I always see like 3 pages of the same masters each and every day for the passed months. Everything I think is pure spectualation, but I'm a firm believer that the con of the mob effects drop rate (green mob low chance of fabled chest, yellow mob higher chance), the number of people in your group effect drop rate (solo you have a higher chance of getting a fabled chance than if you kill it in a duo or group of 6), and being mentored [Removed for Content] the drop rates (Had 5 level 70s mentoring to 38 and farming the hell out of Obelisk of Lost Souls for loots xp and AA, fabled chests were a rare thing, almost ALL were woodies). Now, I may or may not be wrong about those points, but that is my opinion I have made after playing for a long time. So, in my theory, for maximum chance at fabled loot you would need to kill yellow or orange named solo and unmentored. Now, that being said, I run The Poet's Palace every day. Sometimes solo, usually duo, ocassionally in a group of 3-6. Solo and duo I'm averaging 1 master every 2 runs. If I'm in a group of 3 or more, we are lucky to see any metal at all. Duoing, I'm still averaging 1 master every 2 runs, however the other fabled and legendary "trash" gear doesn't seem to drop as often IMO. Coincidence? maybe... It wouldn't hurt my feelings any if they bumped the master drop rates in T6, or better yet... just make it freakin random. Back to my first sentence: the same masters are being found and sold because certain masters have a higher chance of dropping than other "rare" masters IMO. Examples: Band of Thugs and Hardened are almost ALWAYS on the broker, and multiple copies of them. In a Breeding Grounds group, Hideaway Adept 1 dropped, literally 10-15 minutes later, Hideaway Master1 dropped off a trash heroic. Fallen Gate group, necro mage pet ad1 drops, followed by the M1 later. Runnyeye group, Sliver of Essence or whatever it's called (conjy shards) Ad1 drops, followed by the M1 later that night. Poet's Palace, Meteor Fist drops in 2 different runs back to back. Poet's Palace, level 55 Illusionist power tap Master 1 drops in 2 runs back to back. This kind of thing has happened many times, these are the only examples I remember specifically. I'd really prefer not having to keep farming for Dispatch for the next year or until the level cap rises only to have it replaced by a Tier 8 or 9 upgrade. That's just personal preference though, many people feel only a select and lucky few should have masters /shrug... To each their own. __________________ A Cure For Cancer

01-11-2007, 04:04 PM	#10
Siltha Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17	I have been doing poet's palace solo almost daily for a few months now to find the last three masters I need. I usually had a master drop about every two runs and quite a few legendary. But in the last two weeks and around 12 runs I had no master drop at all and only one legendary chest. So I started wondering if the drop rate had been lowered. But then I went in with a group last weekend to quickly finish our PP:R access – and 2 masters dropped, lol. So I guess it's only the RNG scowling at me atm =/But yeah, I wouldn't mind a higher master drop rate in T6 instances. I think it's silly that you can buy T1-T5 and T7 masters for change on the brokers, but the T6 spells are rare as heck. Makes no sense really __________________ Siltha Stonerose 70 paladin/70 armorer/70 transmuter Noobs R Us Permafrost

01-10-2007, 08:43 PM	#1
SeaDoo Lord Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4	Been doing allot of Instance runs lately. "Roost" "Cache" and the like. I / We will mentor our lower guild members for a chance to get them upgrades, but I haven't seen a master chest drop in a long while. Does the mentoring impact the drop rate? Does anyone have some information on this topic?Thanx In Advance...

01-11-2007, 02:33 AM	#4
jago quicksilver Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 306	IMO, the t6 instances are how the master chest drop rate should be, the market is flooded with masters, its ridiculous. even w/o the botters/farmers the markets would still be flooded.

01-11-2007, 02:51 AM	#6
woolf2k Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 845	DoF doesn't drop Master chests anymore... Well. oviously this is an exageration...however, the master drops were nerfed sometime ago... I've never seen a master and rarely a legenday chest drop in those instances mentioned from the number of times I've been in those instances... I hear from players who went in those instances when DoF first came out that they used drop all the time...

01-11-2007, 02:57 AM	#8
SeaDoo Lord Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4	Have to say that's true. Cache was always good for at least one Master if not two, and this was around the time DOF came out.

01-11-2007, 03:06 AM	#9
Jayad Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Raelyn @ Permafrost Posts: 1,306	When DOF came out, it had a lot more master chests than T1-T5. In T1-T5, many of the original zones were redone with even better drop rates off of nameds and trash. KOS came out with the newer drop rates as well.

01-11-2007, 06:39 PM	#11
superdave Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 95	got one off a solo tunarian in new tunaria.

01-13-2007, 07:41 AM	#12
Guy De Alsace Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,902	Spent 5 hours in Cazic Thule today with my Guardian alt. Killed multiple named - some 2 or 3 times. Did Ooze ring event and many others. We gained one legendary drop and no masters at all. Seemed either bugged or something had changed in there. I've been in CT a ton of times and even a quick run yields one or two masters and legendary. To be in for 5 hours and nothing worthwhile dropping seemed odd to me. We did Acadechism the night before and got 3 masters and perhaps 5 legendary boxes.

01-13-2007, 07:44 AM	#13
Jayad Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Raelyn @ Permafrost Posts: 1,306	It's all random, guys. Some times you have good nights, sometimes you have bad nights. I've had a few nights in a row with nothing.