Commander Zorkla 25 Epic x4

Cale2281 · 01-02-2007, 03:45 AM

So Commander Zorkla a contested epic x4 was up on Nektulos this afternoon and I found a bunch of people in the 30s chat and we got ourselves 3 good groups of people to take this epic Orc and his friends down. After a relatively short period of time we killed him bada bing NO CHEST.

I sent a /petition and got this message from a GM:

"Please note that chest drops are random and it's not necessary every time you kill NPCs, you get chest to loot items from and this is an in-game feature."

Please tell me that there are not contested Epic x4 mobs that don't drop loot in this game. I've killed a bunch of epic names and can't think of one that didn't drop any chest at all. This is risk vs reward at its finest... HUGE RISK absolutely NO reward.

Vegter Leeuw · 01-02-2007, 05:08 AM

same thing happened to us when we killed the x4 in front of acadechism in gfay.

Jayad · 01-02-2007, 05:17 AM

I was on this raid and it sucked. The lame response from the CS was even dumber.

Brigh · 01-02-2007, 08:48 AM

Never heard of this mob...an orc in Nektulos forest?This name is not even in the ogaming / allakhazam database.

Cale2281 · 01-02-2007, 09:01 AM

Its an orc in Greater Fay above Crushbone Keep... I'm no nektulos server. Sorry for the confusion.

Windego · 01-02-2007, 04:38 PM

We did this same NPC 3 weeks ago and got a wood chest (Small Chest) with some advanced woodworker 11 or some crap from it. Sad. While we were doing it solely for the AA, all mentored down, I would hate to see someone organise a full 24 man raid of non mentored people at that level range and have this drop nothing or the small chest. Inexcusable that it is not itemised and not very thrilling for a first time raider who would most likely be at such an event.

Faelgalad · 01-02-2007, 09:13 PM

Did them too, 12 People arround level 25 and 4x High Levels from my guild. Didn't know what awaited us.

Achivement was huge! 2 Points for me and arround 30% for thos of Level 70.

But no Chest! That was lame!

Petition is running since 20.11. since German servers have no real GM support in the moment SMILEY

(My momentary Petitions runs since 17 days, many have petitions with more than 4 weeks)

Emlar_from_Halas · 01-03-2007, 04:33 AM

Same thing, we killed it on 3rd of Jan 2007 on Storms, but it didn't reward us :smileysad:

May be this is a mob quest ?

Vegter Leeuw · 01-03-2007, 05:44 AM

it's clearly a contested mob.

The-Fourm-Pirate · 01-03-2007, 07:52 PM

We got that same bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] response after we raided PPR and got no chests, AA, or status, not all mobs drop chests! Oh really? Then why the hell did they drop chests all through t6 and every time we killed any of them in t7? Seriously, they need to get GMs that actually understand how the hell this game works.

Gungo · 01-03-2007, 08:04 PM

The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:
We got that same bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] response after we raided PPR and got no chests, AA, or status, not all mobs drop chests! Oh really? Then why the hell did they drop chests all through t6 and every time we killed any of them in t7? Seriously, they need to get GMs that actually understand how the hell this game works.

No they are right not all mobs drops chests. This mob is like Meathooks or broog in sinking sands, or vikomt in Mm castle they are on fast repops w low chances at chests. This imho is a design flaw. contested Epics should never drop no chests and rarely drop wood. Epics x2 should be on 1-3 respawn timers and have a very high chance to drop legendary. Epic x 4 should be on 3+ day respawn timers and have a high chance to drop fabled. 5+ days and garanteed legendary/fabled chest.

DementedGerbil · 01-03-2007, 10:10 PM

you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob?

there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days

BleemTeam · 01-03-2007, 11:36 PM

Cragshell in EL? Grimfeather in TS? To just name a couple.

There are a lot of Epic encounters that do not wield chests, or at best, just wood or treasured.

Cale2281 · 01-04-2007, 07:01 AM

Well the mob is clearly NOT a quest mob. It is a x4 contested with 3 adds and he spawns several heroic adds as you progress the encounter. I've spoken to several GMs and /bug the encounter. After speaking with the Devs I got this response from the head GM:

"Though he is an impressive and difficult opponent, unfortunately Commander Zorkla is penniless. Perhaps he spent all his wealth on improving himself, but the sad truth is he does not drop any loot at this time. This may change in the future."

While my initial response from SOE was poor, the follow up from each of the GMs was more than adequate from a customer service standpoint. It is sad that such a mob would be put into game incomplete but I look forward to seeing this encounter updated with an added loot table. So Until you read something in the update notes, don't bother with this encounter unless you want some really good AA.

Mistmoore-Milaga · 01-05-2007, 03:30 AM

Cale2281 wrote:

Well the mob is clearly NOT a quest mob. It is a x4 contested with 3 adds and he spawns several heroic adds as you progress the encounter. I've spoken to several GMs and /bug the encounter. After speaking with the Devs I got this response from the head GM:

"Though he is an impressive and difficult opponent, unfortunately Commander Zorkla is penniless. Perhaps he spent all his wealth on improving himself, but the sad truth is he does not drop any loot at this time. This may change in the future."

While my initial response from SOE was poor, the follow up from each of the GMs was more than adequate from a customer service standpoint. It is sad that such a mob would be put into game incomplete but I look forward to seeing this encounter updated with an added loot table. So Until you read something in the update notes, don't bother with this encounter unless you want some really good AA.

I haven't seen any evidence that he is not a quest mob. There are plenty of contested epic quest mobs out there, and they began removing their loot tables so that they wouldn't be farmed for loot but saved for those working on the quest. The GM's response basically says that they know he has no loot and he was designed that way. That seems like evidence that it is a quest mob.As for loot ... only one person gets it ... sounds like everyone got a LOT of AA. At this point, if I did any non 70+ raids I'd love to trade the loot for AA.

Cale2281 · 01-05-2007, 03:48 AM

The AA was fantastic for sure. However, most names that you kill give you good amount of AA first time you kill them AND drop loot every time. Contested mobs in the lower levels tend to drop several pieces of loot or rares so for those people that are killing it at the intended levels it would be nice to get both.

As for the not being a quest mob. No one has completed a quest that involves the mob have they? If so let me know which one it is cuz I'd like to do it. But if no one has done the quest at this point in the expansion and it is a quest mob, the quest is most likely not in the game. The dev's response was more like hmm...no loot... let me look into that. It was certainly not that the mob was designed to not have loot. In fact that might have been why the head GM asked me to /bug it.

Noaani · 01-06-2007, 09:50 PM

DementedGerbil wrote:

you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob?

there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days

Really?

Name one!

Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer.

I can't think of any.

MrMartin · 01-09-2007, 12:48 PM

Noaani wrote:

DementedGerbil wrote:

you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob?

there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days

Really?

Name one!

Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer.

I can't think of any.

Hargur the Deathless(?) in The Bonemire for Claymore quest.
He used to drop loot tho but they changed that.

22224446 · 01-10-2007, 04:26 PM

MrMartin wrote:

Noaani wrote:

DementedGerbil wrote:

you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob?

there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days

Really?

Name one!

Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer.

I can't think of any.

Hargur the Deathless(?) in The Bonemire for Claymore quest.
He used to drop loot tho but they changed that.

x4 type please. i think it was a good move from so to make haraghur no-loot one. as they dropped something he was on farm by some guilds of our server, and normal peeps had about zero chance to take him out with a pickup.

but epic timeline in t3-t4... for what reward? if u arent a quester the reward would be obsolote for u after the first week of play, so it wouldn't worth the effort.

Noaani · 01-10-2007, 08:05 PM

MrMartin wrote:

Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer.

I can't think of any.

Hargur the Deathless(?) in The Bonemire for Claymore quest.
He used to drop loot tho but they changed that.

I am glad someone finally tried to name a mob within the above parameters.

You fail.

Haraguar the Deathless is not on a multi day spawn timer, but rather a spawn timer of around 2 hours.

Please try again.

Gungo · 01-10-2007, 10:52 PM

cyenos? In SoS is a epic quest mob 1 day respawn?

The rumbler worm thingy in antonica epic x2? was quest mob not sure on respawn.

harla dar was for quite some time before they made her into an instance mob.

Cheeroon? in MM castle is a quest mob ring event w a long repop, not sure how long.

But to answer the question that mob is not used for any known quest. And i have done ever quest avaiable to me, except cloak of flames. working on that now.

Message Edited by Gungo on 01-10-2007 09:55 AM

Noaani · 01-11-2007, 12:25 AM

Gungo wrote:

cyenos? In SoS is a epic quest mob 1 day respawn?

Is on a much less than single day timer, not sure exactly how long, but I have killed it twice in one playing session before.

The rumbler worm thingy in antonica epic x2? was quest mob not sure on respawn.

Only an hour or so.

harla dar was for quite some time before they made her into an instance mob.

Indeed. But she no longer fits those specifications

Cheeroon? in MM castle is a quest mob ring event w a long repop, not sure how long.

The respawn is hours, as opposed to days.

Nice try all up though :smileyhappy:

Gungo · 01-11-2007, 01:26 AM

Noaani wrote:

Gungo wrote:

harla dar was for quite some time before they made her into an instance mob.

Indeed. But she no longer fits those specifications

Nice try all up though :smileyhappy:

Indeed but that proves it is not improbably to assume SOE would implement an epic mob w a longer then 1 day repop for a quest.They do it every expansion for a quest. Look at the gold and silver dragon in DOF. Originally they were on a long respawn. Then KoS had haraghar and Harla. You would of assumed they learned after the first mistake. Although in this case i find it highly unlikely.

there were a few more instances of epic contested named, some not in game anymore like the

rockthingy in commonlands- dunno repop
Some orc x2 in DoF by dvinns lair- less then 1 day pop
x2 giant by drayek door
x2? giant in lavastorm
young dragon - although like pops eveyr hour he depops after like 5 minutes.
and haraghar was indeed a longer then the few hour respawn that he is on now.

I'll think of one i am sure there is one out there. I did so many obscure epic quests that they probably never fixed one.

by far the worst epic quest mob in the game was the 4 needed in stormhold, while the "pull" respawned every 2-4hours it had like a 10% chance at spawning the epic x2 named. resulting in multiple days before you got the epic u needed. Took me like 2 years to finally get all 4.

Message Edited by Gungo on 01-10-2007 01:11 PM

Noaani · 01-11-2007, 08:02 AM

Gungo wrote:
Indeed but that proves it is not improbably to assume SOE would implement an epic mob w a longer then 1 day repop for a quest.They do it every expansion for a quest. Look at the gold and silver dragon in DOF. Originally they were on a long respawn. Then KoS had haraghar and Harla. You would of assumed they learned after the first mistake. Although in this case i find it highly unlikely.

there were a few more instances of epic contested named, some not in game anymore like the

rockthingy in commonlands- dunno repop
Some orc x2 in DoF by dvinns lair- less then 1 day pop
x2 giant by drayek door
x2? giant in lavastorm
young dragon - although like pops eveyr hour he depops after like 5 minutes.
and haraghar was indeed a longer then the few hour respawn that he is on now.

I'll think of one i am sure there is one out there. I did so many obscure epic quests that they probably never fixed one.

by far the worst epic quest mob in the game was the 4 needed in stormhold, while the "pull" respawned every 2-4hours it had like a 10% chance at spawning the epic x2 named. resulting in multiple days before you got the epic u needed. Took me like 2 years to finally get all 4.

Yeah, something I really should have put in that list was that the mob doesn't drop loot. I meant to put it in, but forgot.

To me, that is the major differance between these encounters, and why I believe it is just an unfinished mob. Although I wouldn't put it past SoE for this to be a "practice mob"...

Guy De Alsace · 01-13-2007, 07:48 AM

Grumzod (?) the Exile (41 Epic x4) in Zek, The Orcish Wastes is required to update a quest for a pretty poor treasured ring thats started from a chest drop quest starter.

Cant remember offhand what the quest is called unfortunately.

Noaani · 01-13-2007, 11:16 AM

Guy De Alsace wrote:

Grumzod (?) the Exile (41 Epic x4) in Zek, The Orcish Wastes is required to update a quest for a pretty poor treasured ring thats started from a chest drop quest starter.

Cant remember offhand what the quest is called unfortunately.

Does where I said in the game now also count for the quest? If so, that quest is no longer around (or did they just take that mob out of it? I forget, but it was one or the other).

If not, you win!

01-02-2007, 08:48 AM	#4
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	Never heard of this mob...an orc in Nektulos forest?This name is not even in the ogaming / allakhazam database. __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

01-02-2007, 09:13 PM	#7
Faelgalad Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 353	Did them too, 12 People arround level 25 and 4x High Levels from my guild. Didn't know what awaited us. Achivement was huge! 2 Points for me and arround 30% for thos of Level 70. But no Chest! That was lame! Petition is running since 20.11. since German servers have no real GM support in the moment (My momentary Petitions runs since 17 days, many have petitions with more than 4 weeks)

01-03-2007, 04:33 AM	#8
Emlar_from_Halas Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 350	Same thing, we killed it on 3rd of Jan 2007 on Storms, but it didn't reward us :smileysad: May be this is a mob quest ? __________________

01-03-2007, 07:52 PM	#10
The-Fourm-Pirate Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 482	We got that same bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] response after we raided PPR and got no chests, AA, or status, not all mobs drop chests! Oh really? Then why the hell did they drop chests all through t6 and every time we killed any of them in t7? Seriously, they need to get GMs that actually understand how the hell this game works. __________________ Desann: 70 Brigand Bossk: 70 Inquisitor

01-03-2007, 08:04 PM	#11
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	The-Fourm-Pirate wrote: We got that same bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] response after we raided PPR and got no chests, AA, or status, not all mobs drop chests! Oh really? Then why the hell did they drop chests all through t6 and every time we killed any of them in t7? Seriously, they need to get GMs that actually understand how the hell this game works. No they are right not all mobs drops chests. This mob is like Meathooks or broog in sinking sands, or vikomt in Mm castle they are on fast repops w low chances at chests. This imho is a design flaw. contested Epics should never drop no chests and rarely drop wood. Epics x2 should be on 1-3 respawn timers and have a very high chance to drop legendary. Epic x 4 should be on 3+ day respawn timers and have a high chance to drop fabled. 5+ days and garanteed legendary/fabled chest.

01-02-2007, 03:45 AM	#1
Cale2281 Lord Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102	So Commander Zorkla a contested epic x4 was up on Nektulos this afternoon and I found a bunch of people in the 30s chat and we got ourselves 3 good groups of people to take this epic Orc and his friends down. After a relatively short period of time we killed him bada bing NO CHEST. I sent a /petition and got this message from a GM: "Please note that chest drops are random and it's not necessary every time you kill NPCs, you get chest to loot items from and this is an in-game feature." Please tell me that there are not contested Epic x4 mobs that don't drop loot in this game. I've killed a bunch of epic names and can't think of one that didn't drop any chest at all. This is risk vs reward at its finest... HUGE RISK absolutely NO reward.

01-02-2007, 05:08 AM	#2
Vegter Leeuw General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	same thing happened to us when we killed the x4 in front of acadechism in gfay.

01-02-2007, 05:17 AM	#3
Jayad Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Raelyn @ Permafrost Posts: 1,306	I was on this raid and it sucked. The lame response from the CS was even dumber.

01-02-2007, 09:01 AM	#5
Cale2281 Lord Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102	Its an orc in Greater Fay above Crushbone Keep... I'm no nektulos server. Sorry for the confusion.

01-02-2007, 04:38 PM	#6
Windego Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 22	We did this same NPC 3 weeks ago and got a wood chest (Small Chest) with some advanced woodworker 11 or some crap from it. Sad. While we were doing it solely for the AA, all mentored down, I would hate to see someone organise a full 24 man raid of non mentored people at that level range and have this drop nothing or the small chest. Inexcusable that it is not itemised and not very thrilling for a first time raider who would most likely be at such an event.

01-03-2007, 05:44 AM	#9
Vegter Leeuw General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	it's clearly a contested mob.

01-03-2007, 10:10 PM	#12
DementedGerbil Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 113	you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob? there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days

01-03-2007, 11:36 PM	#13
BleemTeam Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 425	Cragshell in EL? Grimfeather in TS? To just name a couple. There are a lot of Epic encounters that do not wield chests, or at best, just wood or treasured. __________________ "What's left to ponder?"

01-04-2007, 07:01 AM	#14
Cale2281 Lord Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102	Well the mob is clearly NOT a quest mob. It is a x4 contested with 3 adds and he spawns several heroic adds as you progress the encounter. I've spoken to several GMs and /bug the encounter. After speaking with the Devs I got this response from the head GM: "Though he is an impressive and difficult opponent, unfortunately Commander Zorkla is penniless. Perhaps he spent all his wealth on improving himself, but the sad truth is he does not drop any loot at this time. This may change in the future." While my initial response from SOE was poor, the follow up from each of the GMs was more than adequate from a customer service standpoint. It is sad that such a mob would be put into game incomplete but I look forward to seeing this encounter updated with an added loot table. So Until you read something in the update notes, don't bother with this encounter unless you want some really good AA.

01-05-2007, 03:30 AM	#15
Mistmoore-Milaga Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 369	Cale2281 wrote: Well the mob is clearly NOT a quest mob. It is a x4 contested with 3 adds and he spawns several heroic adds as you progress the encounter. I've spoken to several GMs and /bug the encounter. After speaking with the Devs I got this response from the head GM: "Though he is an impressive and difficult opponent, unfortunately Commander Zorkla is penniless. Perhaps he spent all his wealth on improving himself, but the sad truth is he does not drop any loot at this time. This may change in the future." While my initial response from SOE was poor, the follow up from each of the GMs was more than adequate from a customer service standpoint. It is sad that such a mob would be put into game incomplete but I look forward to seeing this encounter updated with an added loot table. So Until you read something in the update notes, don't bother with this encounter unless you want some really good AA. I haven't seen any evidence that he is not a quest mob. There are plenty of contested epic quest mobs out there, and they began removing their loot tables so that they wouldn't be farmed for loot but saved for those working on the quest. The GM's response basically says that they know he has no loot and he was designed that way. That seems like evidence that it is a quest mob.As for loot ... only one person gets it ... sounds like everyone got a LOT of AA. At this point, if I did any non 70+ raids I'd love to trade the loot for AA.

01-05-2007, 03:48 AM	#16
Cale2281 Lord Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102	The AA was fantastic for sure. However, most names that you kill give you good amount of AA first time you kill them AND drop loot every time. Contested mobs in the lower levels tend to drop several pieces of loot or rares so for those people that are killing it at the intended levels it would be nice to get both. As for the not being a quest mob. No one has completed a quest that involves the mob have they? If so let me know which one it is cuz I'd like to do it. But if no one has done the quest at this point in the expansion and it is a quest mob, the quest is most likely not in the game. The dev's response was more like hmm...no loot... let me look into that. It was certainly not that the mob was designed to not have loot. In fact that might have been why the head GM asked me to /bug it.

01-06-2007, 09:50 PM	#17
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	DementedGerbil wrote: you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob? there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days Really? Name one! Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer. I can't think of any. __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius

01-09-2007, 12:48 PM	#18
MrMartin Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 155	Noaani wrote: DementedGerbil wrote: you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob? there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days Really? Name one! Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer. I can't think of any. Hargur the Deathless(?) in The Bonemire for Claymore quest. He used to drop loot tho but they changed that. __________________ Ecum - 80 Necromancer Lekoaf - 75 Guardian Pooc - 73 Bruiser/80 Alchemist Member of Mythic Legion of Runnyeye

01-10-2007, 04:26 PM	#19
22224446 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 97	MrMartin wrote: Noaani wrote: DementedGerbil wrote: you ever stop to think this guy is a quest mob? there are several epic mobs in game that dont drop crap and only pop every few days Really? Name one! Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer. I can't think of any. Hargur the Deathless(?) in The Bonemire for Claymore quest. He used to drop loot tho but they changed that. x4 type please. i think it was a good move from so to make haraghur no-loot one. as they dropped something he was on farm by some guilds of our server, and normal peeps had about zero chance to take him out with a pickup. but epic timeline in t3-t4... for what reward? if u arent a quester the reward would be obsolote for u after the first week of play, so it wouldn't worth the effort. __________________

01-10-2007, 08:05 PM	#20
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	MrMartin wrote: Name me a non instanced, non triggered spawn, epic quest mob in the game now that is on a multi day spwan timer. I can't think of any. Hargur the Deathless(?) in The Bonemire for Claymore quest. He used to drop loot tho but they changed that. I am glad someone finally tried to name a mob within the above parameters. You fail. Haraguar the Deathless is not on a multi day spawn timer, but rather a spawn timer of around 2 hours. Please try again. __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius

01-10-2007, 10:52 PM	#21
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	cyenos? In SoS is a epic quest mob 1 day respawn? The rumbler worm thingy in antonica epic x2? was quest mob not sure on respawn. harla dar was for quite some time before they made her into an instance mob. Cheeroon? in MM castle is a quest mob ring event w a long repop, not sure how long. But to answer the question that mob is not used for any known quest. And i have done ever quest avaiable to me, except cloak of flames. working on that now. Message Edited by Gungo on 01-10-2007 09:55 AM

01-11-2007, 12:25 AM	#22
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	Gungo wrote: cyenos? In SoS is a epic quest mob 1 day respawn? Is on a much less than single day timer, not sure exactly how long, but I have killed it twice in one playing session before. The rumbler worm thingy in antonica epic x2? was quest mob not sure on respawn. Only an hour or so. harla dar was for quite some time before they made her into an instance mob. Indeed. But she no longer fits those specifications Cheeroon? in MM castle is a quest mob ring event w a long repop, not sure how long. The respawn is hours, as opposed to days. Nice try all up though :smileyhappy: __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius

01-11-2007, 01:26 AM	#23
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	Noaani wrote: Gungo wrote: harla dar was for quite some time before they made her into an instance mob. Indeed. But she no longer fits those specifications Nice try all up though :smileyhappy: Indeed but that proves it is not improbably to assume SOE would implement an epic mob w a longer then 1 day repop for a quest.They do it every expansion for a quest. Look at the gold and silver dragon in DOF. Originally they were on a long respawn. Then KoS had haraghar and Harla. You would of assumed they learned after the first mistake. Although in this case i find it highly unlikely. there were a few more instances of epic contested named, some not in game anymore like the rockthingy in commonlands- dunno repop Some orc x2 in DoF by dvinns lair- less then 1 day pop x2 giant by drayek door x2? giant in lavastorm young dragon - although like pops eveyr hour he depops after like 5 minutes. and haraghar was indeed a longer then the few hour respawn that he is on now. I'll think of one i am sure there is one out there. I did so many obscure epic quests that they probably never fixed one. by far the worst epic quest mob in the game was the 4 needed in stormhold, while the "pull" respawned every 2-4hours it had like a 10% chance at spawning the epic x2 named. resulting in multiple days before you got the epic u needed. Took me like 2 years to finally get all 4. Message Edited by Gungo on 01-10-2007 01:11 PM

01-11-2007, 08:02 AM	#24
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	Gungo wrote: Indeed but that proves it is not improbably to assume SOE would implement an epic mob w a longer then 1 day repop for a quest.They do it every expansion for a quest. Look at the gold and silver dragon in DOF. Originally they were on a long respawn. Then KoS had haraghar and Harla. You would of assumed they learned after the first mistake. Although in this case i find it highly unlikely. there were a few more instances of epic contested named, some not in game anymore like the rockthingy in commonlands- dunno repop Some orc x2 in DoF by dvinns lair- less then 1 day pop x2 giant by drayek door x2? giant in lavastorm young dragon - although like pops eveyr hour he depops after like 5 minutes. and haraghar was indeed a longer then the few hour respawn that he is on now. I'll think of one i am sure there is one out there. I did so many obscure epic quests that they probably never fixed one. by far the worst epic quest mob in the game was the 4 needed in stormhold, while the "pull" respawned every 2-4hours it had like a 10% chance at spawning the epic x2 named. resulting in multiple days before you got the epic u needed. Took me like 2 years to finally get all 4. Yeah, something I really should have put in that list was that the mob doesn't drop loot. I meant to put it in, but forgot. To me, that is the major differance between these encounters, and why I believe it is just an unfinished mob. Although I wouldn't put it past SoE for this to be a "practice mob"... __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius

01-13-2007, 07:48 AM	#25
Guy De Alsace Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,902	Grumzod (?) the Exile (41 Epic x4) in Zek, The Orcish Wastes is required to update a quest for a pretty poor treasured ring thats started from a chest drop quest starter. Cant remember offhand what the quest is called unfortunately.

01-13-2007, 11:16 AM	#26
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	Guy De Alsace wrote: Grumzod (?) the Exile (41 Epic x4) in Zek, The Orcish Wastes is required to update a quest for a pretty poor treasured ring thats started from a chest drop quest starter. Cant remember offhand what the quest is called unfortunately. Does where I said in the game now also count for the quest? If so, that quest is no longer around (or did they just take that mob out of it? I forget, but it was one or the other). If not, you win! __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius