Spells STILL missing

Sacha · 09-18-2005, 04:34 PM

We've been asking for a month. Could we please have the new recipes for the spells introduced in the combat revamp? I went to upgrade Necromantic Symbol today. It does not exist. Same with several conjuror spells I tried to upgrade a couple days ago.

You introduce a new combat system in which spell upgrades matter more than ever before. You increase the rate of rares so people will have mainly adepts. Then you fail to give us the recipes. Come on...seriously, that is just sloppy.

Grimsore · 09-20-2005, 12:09 AM

Since you asked so eloquently I’m sure they will be jumping right on that. If it were me and I finished the new spell recipes, I’d have you wait another week just out of spite. It's a good thing I don’t work for Sony and a good thing I changed careers. "No pain medication for you until you say your sorry mister!"

Sacha · 09-20-2005, 11:56 AM

Dear chap, we have been asking nicely for a month. I have sent two very pleasant, smiley, happy pms to Blackguard about it, and followed the instructions in his reply to the letter. Kuu has posted nicely, I have posted nicely. The crafting forums are bulging with pleas (not rants) to fix this. Do you want me to suck [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] to get this fixed?

As of today's date we have not received one single acknowledgement that there is even a problem. Not privately, not publicly.

And meanwhile we are asked to accept the combat revamp, relearn, adapt, and even "tell a friend" how good it is.

Finish the job then I'll tell a friend. Until then I'll continue to assert that it is sloppy to release a COMBAT revamp in which half the COMBAT spells are missing.

But thanks for the flame. :smileyvery-happy:

Message Edited by Sacha on 09-20-2005 09:00 AM

Kadurm · 09-20-2005, 12:37 PM

Not to mention that on those rare occasions you actually get a post lvl 50 crafter book with spells or arts in them, you only get ONE...that is going to take ALOT of searching to get any sort of compiled list of crafting abilities for upgrades.

Lets see...thats how many classes total x 1 spell per book = a really BIG library of scribed crafting books for sages and such.

Grimsore · 09-20-2005, 06:31 PM

Cimee, Ewww, you mean the crafting books being found only hold one recipe and not a list of many like the old books? If I understand that right, that is annoying.

Kadurm · 09-20-2005, 07:09 PM

well, I havent seen books from all the crafts yet. But sages get one spell per book, and I think armorers get like 2

bcbroom · 09-20-2005, 07:10 PM

I found a mid 50's jewler book with only one spell in it (don't remember which one).

EtoilePirate · 09-20-2005, 07:47 PM

Kadurm wrote:
well, I havent seen books from all the crafts yet. But sages get one spell per book, and I think armorers get like 2

A lot of the other crafts rarely get more than three recipes in a book anyway. Most of my tailoring books (the ones I've scribed and the ones I've not yet leveled to) have 2-4 recipes each. Armoring is notorious for having one-recipe books. That's one reason a sage/jeweler/provisioner/anything has been easier to level. That said, though, one recipe per 50+ book for the scholar-types is surprising.

Kuulei · 09-22-2005, 12:29 PM

As fas as I can tell with all 50+ adept III recipes, dropped contain a single recipe. There are no 50-59 Advanced books in DoF, just single recipe scrolls. I believe advanced can be purchased, but only by the actual tradeskiller that can scribe them as they are no drop. This will make adept III's very rare indeed as many crafters are below the 45+ adventure level to do the necessary faction for access to advanced recipes.

Is there a current quest for artiseans to gain access to a court or to DoF advanced recipes?

/nibbles

Torali · 09-22-2005, 05:32 PM

Kuulei wrote:

As fas as I can tell with all 50+ adept III recipes, dropped contain a single recipe. There are no 50-59 Advanced books in DoF, just single recipe scrolls. I believe advanced can be purchased, but only by the actual tradeskiller that can scribe them as they are no drop. This will make adept III's very rare indeed as many crafters are below the 45+ adventure level to do the necessary faction for access to advanced recipes.

Is there a current quest for artiseans to gain access to a court or to DoF advanced recipes?

/nibbles

Not that I've seen...so, since I am a Alchemist and a Sage...I need to go hunt and find how many adept III scrolls? Lessee...Wizard, Warlock, Conjurer, Necromancer, Illusionist, Coercer, Templar, Inquisitor, Defiler, Warden, Fury, Mystic, Guardian, Berserker, Paladin, Shadowknight, Monk, Bruiser...multiply each by the number of skills/spells they get from 51 to 60 and then add them all together....that comes to a CRAPLOAD of friggen scroll drops that I have to go out and find so that I can make adept III's for people. Because my crafters are not 45+ and will probably never be inside a faction court.

Let down? VERY MUCH SO

goboy · 09-22-2005, 06:17 PM

We had a JC Advanced 53 book drop last night. You would have to ask Heiro what was in it.

Jaly

Heiro · 09-23-2005, 08:16 AM

There are Books that drop, that contain multiple recipes...

And then there are scrolls that drop, that are One Recipe specific...

Not sure if any of those overlap or not ..

Sacha · 09-23-2005, 10:35 AM

Looks like the recipes got patched in last night, along with some cool changes to invis, and a heap of new quest fun SMILEY

Thanks!

Sacha · 09-24-2005, 01:06 AM

Re those added recipes, thought I would mention the following:

"Minions Stance: Provocation" should be in book 25. It is still in book 23 and still called "Provocation".

"Alluvial Brand" should be in book 26 now. It is still in book 29.

Cheers

Torali · 09-24-2005, 09:22 AM

I'd like to take back my rant. I found a real Advanced Sage book drop with all the 53 mage/priest adepts in it for that level. So, I have no idea what the single recipe scrolls are for. Unless those are supposed to be the new Master recipes, but are still saying Adept in the examine.

09-20-2005, 07:10 PM	#7
bcbroom Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 226	I found a mid 50's jewler book with only one spell in it (don't remember which one). __________________ -------- Razrushadt -- 62 Wizard - Test Storazh -- 64 Armorer - Test

09-20-2005, 07:47 PM	#8
EtoilePirate Tester Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,258	Kadurm wrote: well, I havent seen books from all the crafts yet. But sages get one spell per book, and I think armorers get like 2 A lot of the other crafts rarely get more than three recipes in a book anyway. Most of my tailoring books (the ones I've scribed and the ones I've not yet leveled to) have 2-4 recipes each. Armoring is notorious for having one-recipe books. That's one reason a sage/jeweler/provisioner/anything has been easier to level. That said, though, one recipe per 50+ book for the scholar-types is surprising. __________________ Kella The Mighty Pirate, Assassin & Tailor Nimari, Fury-at-Large Test Server

09-22-2005, 12:29 PM	#9
Kuulei Tester Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 468	As fas as I can tell with all 50+ adept III recipes, dropped contain a single recipe. There are no 50-59 Advanced books in DoF, just single recipe scrolls. I believe advanced can be purchased, but only by the actual tradeskiller that can scribe them as they are no drop. This will make adept III's very rare indeed as many crafters are below the 45+ adventure level to do the necessary faction for access to advanced recipes. Is there a current quest for artiseans to gain access to a court or to DoF advanced recipes? /nibbles __________________ Kuulei ~ Warden of Test

09-22-2005, 05:32 PM	#10
Torali Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Kuulei wrote: As fas as I can tell with all 50+ adept III recipes, dropped contain a single recipe. There are no 50-59 Advanced books in DoF, just single recipe scrolls. I believe advanced can be purchased, but only by the actual tradeskiller that can scribe them as they are no drop. This will make adept III's very rare indeed as many crafters are below the 45+ adventure level to do the necessary faction for access to advanced recipes. Is there a current quest for artiseans to gain access to a court or to DoF advanced recipes? /nibbles Not that I've seen...so, since I am a Alchemist and a Sage...I need to go hunt and find how many adept III scrolls? Lessee...Wizard, Warlock, Conjurer, Necromancer, Illusionist, Coercer, Templar, Inquisitor, Defiler, Warden, Fury, Mystic, Guardian, Berserker, Paladin, Shadowknight, Monk, Bruiser...multiply each by the number of skills/spells they get from 51 to 60 and then add them all together....that comes to a CRAPLOAD of friggen scroll drops that I have to go out and find so that I can make adept III's for people. Because my crafters are not 45+ and will probably never be inside a faction court. Let down? VERY MUCH SO

09-22-2005, 06:17 PM	#11
goboy Tester Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 511	We had a JC Advanced 53 book drop last night. You would have to ask Heiro what was in it. Jaly __________________ Jaly, Test Gnome

09-18-2005, 04:34 PM	#1
Sacha Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 138	We've been asking for a *month*. Could we please have the new recipes for the spells introduced in the combat revamp? I went to upgrade Necromantic Symbol today. It does not exist. Same with several conjuror spells I tried to upgrade a couple days ago. You introduce a new combat system in which spell upgrades matter more than ever before. You increase the rate of rares so people will have mainly adepts. Then you fail to give us the recipes. Come on...seriously, that is just sloppy.

09-20-2005, 12:09 AM	#2
Grimsore Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 114	Since you asked so eloquently I’m sure they will be jumping right on that. If it were me and I finished the new spell recipes, I’d have you wait another week just out of spite. It's a good thing I don’t work for Sony and a good thing I changed careers. "No pain medication for you until you say your sorry mister!"

09-20-2005, 11:56 AM	#3
Sacha Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 138	Dear chap, we have been asking nicely for a month. I have sent two very pleasant, smiley, happy pms to Blackguard about it, and followed the instructions in his reply to the letter. Kuu has posted nicely, I have posted nicely. The crafting forums are bulging with pleas (not rants) to fix this. Do you want me to suck [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] to get this fixed? As of today's date we have not received one single acknowledgement that there is even a problem. Not privately, not publicly. And meanwhile we are asked to accept the combat revamp, relearn, adapt, and even "tell a friend" how good it is. Finish the job then I'll tell a friend. Until then I'll continue to assert that it is sloppy to release a COMBAT revamp in which half the COMBAT spells are missing. But thanks for the flame. :smileyvery-happy: Message Edited by Sacha on 09-20-2005 09:00 AM

09-20-2005, 12:37 PM	#4
Kadurm Tester Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 424	Not to mention that on those rare occasions you actually get a post lvl 50 crafter book with spells or arts in them, you only get ONE...that is going to take ALOT of searching to get any sort of compiled list of crafting abilities for upgrades. Lets see...thats how many classes total x 1 spell per book = a really BIG library of scribed crafting books for sages and such.

09-20-2005, 06:31 PM	#5
Grimsore Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 114	Cimee, Ewww, you mean the crafting books being found only hold one recipe and not a list of many like the old books? If I understand that right, that is annoying.

09-20-2005, 07:09 PM	#6
Kadurm Tester Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 424	well, I havent seen books from all the crafts yet. But sages get one spell per book, and I think armorers get like 2

09-23-2005, 08:16 AM	#12
Heiro Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 146	There are Books that drop, that contain multiple recipes... And then there are scrolls that drop, that are One Recipe specific... Not sure if any of those overlap or not ..

09-23-2005, 10:35 AM	#13
Sacha Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 138	Looks like the recipes got patched in last night, along with some cool changes to invis, and a heap of new quest fun Thanks!

09-24-2005, 01:06 AM	#14
Sacha Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 138	Re those added recipes, thought I would mention the following: "Minions Stance: Provocation" should be in book 25. It is still in book 23 and still called "Provocation". "Alluvial Brand" should be in book 26 now. It is still in book 29. Cheers

09-24-2005, 09:22 AM	#15
Torali Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	I'd like to take back my rant. I found a real Advanced Sage book drop with all the 53 mage/priest adepts in it for that level. So, I have no idea what the single recipe scrolls are for. Unless those are supposed to be the new Master recipes, but are still saying Adept in the examine.