New Cobalt look :D (WARNING) alot of pictures here, and a whole lot of TROLL !!!

Guzz_Deaths_Door_EF · 11-19-2005, 05:28 AM

Da Troll was nice enough to model again for me..... /shivers SMILEY

Dolby · 11-19-2005, 05:33 AM

Wow, I really like the new new new look. I think they have it right. Cant wait until it goes live. My paladin will be very happy. Thanks for the pictures Gumse!

Banef · 11-19-2005, 05:33 AM

Wish there was trim on it.

Zhonata · 11-19-2005, 06:00 AM

I liek the new design and indenting in the armor it looks absoultly great. You do however need drift back away fro mteh power ranger blue that you are heading back to. It is no where near as bad, but what we have right now is great so dont change it. As for the cheap plastic sheen that you coated over the armor it needs to go. It doesnt looks like metal it looks like a plastic armor. Truefully lsoe this and focus on making it more ruff. I

Evadne · 11-19-2005, 07:47 AM

Shudder, Tranmek, put the hat back on! He has a de eye, he can do green haired dark elf look as well. ~Eva

Xakkoriz · 11-19-2005, 08:50 AM

They got it right!!! THAT LOOKS GOOD! Big thanks to the EQ2 art team... Give Lotus a raise! lol He is awesome! and all the other art designers as well! Good Job this time guys! I love it.

SmEaGoLLuM · 11-19-2005, 12:05 PM

Looks a bit sci-fi but much better than the current look. Btw what graphics settings did you have on and thanks for the pics.

Guzz_Deaths_Door_EF · 11-19-2005, 03:46 PM

SmEaGoLLuM86 wrote:
Looks a bit sci-fi but much better than the current look. Btw what graphics settings did you have on and thanks for the pics.

Character tip #30421
For best results to view your character please set the following:
Set character texture resolution to Maximum in Options > Display > Texture Resolution > Character Texture Resolution
Set max complex shader distance to a least 20 in Options > Display > Performance > Complex Shader Distance
Turn on Specualar lighting in Options > Display > Lighting > Specular lighting

Toshikii · 11-19-2005, 03:47 PM

Awesome Pictures! New cobalt looks much better than before, even if its not perfect at least now it has some detail on it =). I copied some of them to another topic into the Art section, hope youd ont mind =D -> http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=grph&message.id=20245&jump=true#M20245

SmEaGoLLuM · 11-19-2005, 03:53 PM

Gumse wrote:

SmEaGoLLuM86 wrote:Looks a bit sci-fi but much better than the current look. Btw what graphics settings did you have on and thanks for the pics.

Character tip #30421For best results to view your character please set the following:Set character texture resolution to Maximum in Options > Display > Texture Resolution > Character Texture ResolutionSet max complex shader distance to a least 20 in Options > Display > Performance > Complex Shader DistanceTurn on Specualar lighting in Options > Display > Lighting > Specular lighting

Unfortunately, my pc can't handle those settings >_<

Alevyan · 11-19-2005, 11:42 PM

Having the complex rendering above -1 bogs my framerate.

Praybor · 11-20-2005, 12:09 AM

Aye, black and gold trim would be nice. Elbow plates, spiked armor adornments, belt, knees. You get the picture.

But the Model as is is 100% better than current cobalt. Good work SOE. Hurry pls )

p.s. - an option to turn the skirt graphic off and on would be nice. I like the no skirt look, but the chain underneath needs to be black. Just a thought

Message Edited by Prayborne on 11-19-2005 11:10 AM

cr0wangel · 11-20-2005, 03:04 AM

Thank you much for the screenshots. A texture! The armor have a texture! :smileyvery-happy: Amen.

Dimgroth · 11-20-2005, 03:33 AM

are there any screenshots of new Ebon around?

Jindris · 11-20-2005, 04:13 AM

I wish they would make the trim on the armor a different color, like silver or gold. Gold goes nice with blue.

Grumpy_Warrior_01 · 11-20-2005, 04:14 AM

That looks dang nice.

Sonic X · 11-20-2005, 06:51 AM

That's nice, too bad im stuck with generic VLA and the same 3 robe textures since lvl 30. Gotta love how armor always pertains to plate and no one else...

Lairdragna · 11-20-2005, 09:22 AM

Finally! Thank you SOE!

Mr_Isht · 11-20-2005, 06:16 PM

It still looks like armor-made-by-Mattell.

Naggyba · 11-20-2005, 09:52 PM

Now THAT is a nice looking suit of armor. Finally.Nice job art team.

Message Edited by Naggybait on 11-20-2005 11:53 AM

Flor · 11-21-2005, 01:06 AM

This is one nice looking set of armor. And one really cute, cuddly troll who is wearing it.

<>

Guzz_Deaths_Door_EF · 11-21-2005, 01:26 AM

you're going to give this Troll a big head =/

Camor · 11-21-2005, 02:46 AM

First I would like to express my gratitude to SOE and the EQ2 team for actually dealing with the new cobalt and ebon issue and making an effort to improve what was by a vast majority of the cobalt vanguard wearers a big disapointment originally. This new look on test is again an improvement from before but it still looks way to tranformer sci-fi and does not have the right tint to blend in with the rest of the wonderful discrete details and colours in the game. The surface seems to still have that cheap plastic look that do not blend in with the rest of the rest of the game and the spaulders still look way to bulky.

My biggest concern however is that once again it looks boring with no nice highlighted details in other colour(s) on it. The details are made in a way to sci-fi/transformer style instead of in a more realistic medieval-fantasy style that you have seen on so many good loking previous armour sets. What I would like to see is more of the approach they had in the old rubicite, fulginate etc armour sets with more realistic, details highlighted in other colours but still presented in a more matte discrete way. A good example of a new armour that has got this can be seen in the armour worn by the NPC in Nekt forest at the Timber falls camp in the picture below that so many players have referred to in other threads lately. I just wish they took that armour and made that set the new cobalt armour.... If not please at least make some interesting details on the cobalt armour that makes it more interesting and not so sci-fi looking. After all this is a medieval-fantasy game right, not space marines...

Camoran (the loyal)

Lvl 54 paladin

Antonia Bayle server

thorvang · 11-21-2005, 03:58 AM

at least it's just cobalt. not from some epic quest or dragonslaying. it's just crafted. therefore it shouldn't look extremely uber. it should look nice and t6, but keep the better looks for harder to get items SMILEY

Beghard · 11-21-2005, 06:50 AM

That armour is for sure bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] looking. I think that a tank decked out in plate meteal should look awsome and that sirtinly does! The BP remonds me a little bit of Batman fro mthe Batman Begins movie and that good because BATMAN ROCKS! For sure some cool looking stuff. Cant wear that around and not feal like a badass. GREAT JOB DEVS!

ZababEW · 11-21-2005, 08:34 AM

its there anything new for chains leather cloth?

Camor · 11-21-2005, 02:06 PM

Aye Beghard the plate does remind you of the Batman armour and that is exactly the problem here. If this was a marvel superhero game or a Batman begins game that would be great but EQ2 is not that. It's a medieval fantasy game and should thus contains weapons and armour that looks like medieval fantasy and not something from space marines or the transformers (or batman for that matter…). The design approach should – in my opinions – be medieval fantasy and not science fiction or cartoonish as the approach seems to be in the art team right now.

The original approach before LU#15 was just great and please stick to it SOE and does not turn this game into another City of heroes or, god forbid, World of Warcaft with that games bulky, crap cartoonish graphics…

What should be great here on new cobalt vanguard is some nice details highlighted in other colours like on the armour on the NPC at Timber falls in the picture in my previous post here. The new cobalt vanguard does not have to look exactly like that of course but that approach has certainly got the right fantasy feeling to it. The pattern on the cobalt on test now is way to sci-fi/"Batman-like" to fit in and the chain parts (around the elbows and the crouch) have a lot cheaper looking textures than the previously created chain in the game (unless its supposed to be scale or padding and not chain of course…)…

Camoran (the loyal)

Lvl 54 paladin

Antonia Bayle server

Sokolov · 11-21-2005, 07:20 PM

The indents are cool, but doesn't negate the fact that it's basically one swathe of plastic blue.

Taval · 11-21-2005, 07:48 PM

/agrees with Camoran The color is much better. It's a much nicer cobalt blue instead of a bright blueberry color. The rest of the "build" still needs work though, in my opinion. It still has that plastic look. It still has that space-agey look. It could definitely use more detail and texture. It doesn't look "heroic". And for cripes sake, please give people a /hide skirt command.

Emerix · 11-21-2005, 08:43 PM

Well i dont want to brag or anything but i can tell that armor would work quite well against most slashing weapons ... as im not spoiled with those marval comics i was thinking about old ancient roman armors whe i saw this .. although i got to admit that the armor should be more .. how to say it ? heavier ? thicker ? It looks as if it would be very close to the skin and we all know that the old medieval armors used to have some free room under it .. just that this free room was filled with er ... a gambeston ? ([expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] english !) and honestly i would love to see some really new armors and not just new textures ... Imho SOE should look a bit at the Lineage ][ armors . They arent realistic but look good at least ...and have variety .

http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot000322fe.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot000405cm.jpg

11-19-2005, 05:33 AM	#2
Dolby EQ2Interface Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	Wow, I really like the new new new look. I think they have it right. Cant wait until it goes live. My paladin will be very happy. Thanks for the pictures Gumse! __________________ *ÂÂÂÂYour EQ2 Interface & AddOn Community*

11-19-2005, 06:00 AM	#4
Zhonata Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 302	I liek the new design and indenting in the armor it looks absoultly great. You do however need drift back away fro mteh power ranger blue that you are heading back to. It is no where near as bad, but what we have right now is great so dont change it. As for the cheap plastic sheen that you coated over the armor it needs to go. It doesnt looks like metal it looks like a plastic armor. Truefully lsoe this and focus on making it more ruff. I __________________ 80 Beserker Lucan DLere 80 Brigand Lucan DLere 46 Mystic Lucan DLere 37 Ranger Lucan DLere

11-19-2005, 07:47 AM	#5
Evadne Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 367	Shudder, Tranmek, put the hat back on! He has a de eye, he can do green haired dark elf look as well. ~Eva __________________ ~Eva Xeven The Dancing Queen Test Server

11-19-2005, 03:46 PM	#8
Guzz_Deaths_Door_EF Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 51	SmEaGoLLuM86 wrote: Looks a bit sci-fi but much better than the current look. Btw what graphics settings did you have on and thanks for the pics. Character tip #30421 For best results to view your character please set the following: Set character texture resolution to Maximum in Options > Display > Texture Resolution > Character Texture Resolution Set max complex shader distance to a least 20 in Options > Display > Performance > Complex Shader Distance Turn on Specualar lighting in Options > Display > Lighting > Specular lighting

11-19-2005, 03:47 PM	#9
Toshikii Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 91	Awesome Pictures! New cobalt looks much better than before, even if its not perfect at least now it has some detail on it =). I copied some of them to another topic into the Art section, hope youd ont mind =D -> http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=grph&message.id=20245&jump=true#M20245 __________________

11-19-2005, 05:28 AM	#1
Guzz_Deaths_Door_EF Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 51	Da Troll was nice enough to model again for me..... /shivers

11-19-2005, 05:33 AM	#3
Banef Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 150	Wish there was trim on it. __________________

11-19-2005, 08:50 AM	#6
Xakkoriz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 136	They got it right!!! THAT LOOKS GOOD! Big thanks to the EQ2 art team... Give Lotus a raise! lol He is awesome! and all the other art designers as well! Good Job this time guys! I love it.

11-19-2005, 12:05 PM	#7
SmEaGoLLuM General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 389	Looks a bit sci-fi but much better than the current look. Btw what graphics settings did you have on and thanks for the pics.

11-19-2005, 03:53 PM	#10
SmEaGoLLuM General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 389	Gumse wrote: SmEaGoLLuM86 wrote:Looks a bit sci-fi but much better than the current look. Btw what graphics settings did you have on and thanks for the pics. Character tip #30421For best results to view your character please set the following:Set character texture resolution to Maximum in Options > Display > Texture Resolution > Character Texture ResolutionSet max complex shader distance to a least 20 in Options > Display > Performance > Complex Shader DistanceTurn on Specualar lighting in Options > Display > Lighting > Specular lighting Unfortunately, my pc can't handle those settings >_<

11-19-2005, 11:42 PM	#11
Alevyan Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 122	Having the complex rendering above -1 bogs my framerate.

11-20-2005, 12:09 AM	#12
Praybor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	Aye, black and gold trim would be nice. Elbow plates, spiked armor adornments, belt, knees. You get the picture. But the Model as is is 100% better than current cobalt. Good work SOE. Hurry pls ) p.s. - an option to turn the skirt graphic off and on would be nice. I like the no skirt look, but the chain underneath needs to be black. Just a thought Message Edited by Prayborne on 11-19-2005 11:10 AM

11-20-2005, 03:04 AM	#13
cr0wangel Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 594	Thank you much for the screenshots. A texture! The armor have a texture! :smileyvery-happy: Amen.

11-20-2005, 03:33 AM	#14
Dimgroth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 214	are there any screenshots of new Ebon around? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------- Nothing can stop me now, cause I dont care, anymore..

11-20-2005, 04:13 AM	#15
Jindris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 98	I wish they would make the trim on the armor a different color, like silver or gold. Gold goes nice with blue.

11-20-2005, 04:14 AM	#16
Grumpy_Warrior_01 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 528	That looks dang nice.

11-20-2005, 06:51 AM	#17
Sonic X Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 123	That's nice, too bad im stuck with generic VLA and the same 3 robe textures since lvl 30. Gotta love how armor always pertains to plate and no one else... __________________ Tenlo Dragonbolt, Wizard of Nagafen. LFG for resist fixes and an active guild! Grimwire Necronomicron, 70 Necromancer, of Mistmoore. LFG for raid guild!

11-20-2005, 09:22 AM	#18
Lairdragna Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 543	Finally! Thank you SOE!

11-20-2005, 06:16 PM	#19
Mr_Isht Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 14	It still looks like armor-made-by-Mattell. __________________ ___________________________ Ishtar, Kerra Defiler of the Journeymen of the Overlord, Antonia Bayle

11-20-2005, 09:52 PM	#20
Naggyba Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 518	Now THAT is a nice looking suit of armor. Finally.Nice job art team. Message Edited by Naggybait on 11-20-2005 11:53 AM

11-21-2005, 01:06 AM	#21
Flor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 146	This is one nice looking set of armor. And one really cute, cuddly troll who is wearing it. <>

11-21-2005, 01:26 AM	#22
Guzz_Deaths_Door_EF Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 51	you're going to give this Troll a big head =/

11-21-2005, 02:46 AM	#23
Camor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	First I would like to express my gratitude to SOE and the EQ2 team for actually dealing with the new cobalt and ebon issue and making an effort to improve what was by a vast majority of the cobalt vanguard wearers a big disapointment originally. This new look on test is again an improvement from before but it still looks way to tranformer sci-fi and does not have the right tint to blend in with the rest of the wonderful discrete details and colours in the game. The surface seems to still have that cheap plastic look that do not blend in with the rest of the rest of the game and the spaulders still look way to bulky. My biggest concern however is that once again it looks boring with no nice highlighted details in other colour(s) on it. The details are made in a way to sci-fi/transformer style instead of in a more realistic medieval-fantasy style that you have seen on so many good loking previous armour sets. What I would like to see is more of the approach they had in the old rubicite, fulginate etc armour sets with more realistic, details highlighted in other colours but still presented in a more matte discrete way. A good example of a new armour that has got this can be seen in the armour worn by the NPC in Nekt forest at the Timber falls camp in the picture below that so many players have referred to in other threads lately. I just wish they took that armour and made that set the new cobalt armour.... If not please at least make some interesting details on the cobalt armour that makes it more interesting and not so sci-fi looking. After all this is a medieval-fantasy game right, not space marines... Camoran (the loyal) Lvl 54 paladin Antonia Bayle server

11-21-2005, 03:58 AM	#24
thorvang Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 862	at least it's just cobalt. not from some epic quest or dragonslaying. it's just crafted. therefore it shouldn't look extremely uber. it should look nice and t6, but keep the better looks for harder to get items __________________

11-21-2005, 06:50 AM	#25
Beghard Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 363	That armour is for sure bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] looking. I think that a tank decked out in plate meteal should look awsome and that sirtinly does! The BP remonds me a little bit of Batman fro mthe Batman Begins movie and that good because BATMAN ROCKS! For sure some cool looking stuff. Cant wear that around and not feal like a badass. GREAT JOB DEVS! __________________

11-21-2005, 08:34 AM	#26
ZababEW Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 55	its there anything new for chains leather cloth?

11-21-2005, 02:06 PM	#27
Camor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	Aye Beghard the plate does remind you of the Batman armour and that is exactly the problem here. If this was a marvel superhero game or a Batman begins game that would be great but EQ2 is not that. It's a medieval fantasy game and should thus contains weapons and armour that looks like medieval fantasy and not something from space marines or the transformers (or batman for that matter…). The design approach should – in my opinions – be medieval fantasy and not science fiction or cartoonish as the approach seems to be in the art team right now. The original approach before LU#15 was just great and please stick to it SOE and does not turn this game into another City of heroes or, god forbid, World of Warcaft with that games bulky, crap cartoonish graphics… What should be great here on new cobalt vanguard is some nice details highlighted in other colours like on the armour on the NPC at Timber falls in the picture in my previous post here. The new cobalt vanguard does not have to look exactly like that of course but that approach has certainly got the right fantasy feeling to it. The pattern on the cobalt on test now is way to sci-fi/"Batman-like" to fit in and the chain parts (around the elbows and the crouch) have a lot cheaper looking textures than the previously created chain in the game (unless its supposed to be scale or padding and not chain of course…)… Camoran (the loyal) Lvl 54 paladin Antonia Bayle server

11-21-2005, 07:20 PM	#28
Sokolov Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,357	The indents are cool, but doesn't negate the fact that it's basically one swathe of plastic blue. __________________ [] Sokolov - New Outriders [] [] Maridith(70 Defiler) Sokolov (70 Jeweler) Loklan(57 Zerker) Rebekah(47 Ranger) [] Healing Guide - Version 0.5 Fate has perfect wings

11-21-2005, 07:48 PM	#29
Taval Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 43	/agrees with Camoran The color is much better. It's a much nicer cobalt blue instead of a bright blueberry color. The rest of the "build" still needs work though, in my opinion. It still has that plastic look. It still has that space-agey look. It could definitely use more detail and texture. It doesn't look "heroic". And for cripes sake, please give people a /hide skirt command. __________________ ~ Tavalia Praybane ~ ~ 53rd Season Warden ~ ~ 41st Season Provisioner ~ ~ Legacy of Honor ~ ~ Antonia Bayle ~

11-21-2005, 08:43 PM	#30
Emerix Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 371	Well i dont want to brag or anything but i can tell that armor would work quite well against most slashing weapons ... as im not spoiled with those marval comics i was thinking about old ancient roman armors whe i saw this .. although i got to admit that the armor should be more .. how to say it ? heavier ? thicker ? It looks as if it would be very close to the skin and we all know that the old medieval armors used to have some free room under it .. just that this free room was filled with er ... a gambeston ? ([expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] english !) and honestly i would love to see some really new armors and not just new textures ... Imho SOE should look a bit at the Lineage ][ armors . They arent realistic but look good at least ...and have variety . http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot000322fe.jpg http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot000405cm.jpg