Soooo... Anyway to disable this? It's quite annoying...

Tealdea · 02-12-2006, 12:33 PM

Is there anyway to disable this little option? It's a pain for stealth classes.

Lets have a look. This is a small snap shot of the small hot bar, just at different states, i.e. some skills are being refreshed.Hotbar #1 : All skills are ready for use, there are none that are on their refreshed cycles. Why are some gray? Because I'm not stealth (part of the new "why you can't use this" feature)Hotbar #2 : Still, I'm unstealthed, skills 3, 4, and Z... yes, Z (it's custom, bottom skills, far left) are on their refresh timers. Hard to see the shadow from the recast isn't it?Hotbard #3 : I'm stealthed, all skills are ready to be used (none are refreshing) This is what the hotbar's use to look like before the live update... This is what I miss lol... I didn't need to know why I couldn't use Deathy Blade if I wasn't stealthed because well.... I've played the class for 60 levels rofl, plus, I read the skills SMILEY

So... Anyone got any idea if there's a way to remove this? Any updates incoming with a fix for this? (I say fix because it's breaking me!)

Aienaa · 02-12-2006, 03:26 PM

Yeah I hate that also, but have yet to see a way to disable it....

Gwern - 60 Assassin - Kithicor

KirikaNo · 02-12-2006, 08:02 PM

I absolutely hate this, although I've gotten used to the SLIGHT differences in color between skills that are refreshing and skills are ready... although it can really be a pain in the anus when the skills are very close to being usable (and thus the color fill is very small at the top or the icon). I find myself using MoN or Surveil only to find out I have 2 or 3 seconds left on my CA refresh.

Obnoxious.

SmEaGoLLuM · 02-12-2006, 08:22 PM

Thank you for clearly illustrating this problem of ours. You/we should PM this thread to the devs, I know I will.

ERROR · 02-12-2006, 11:50 PM

HATE it.

woo · 02-13-2006, 07:47 AM

Options > User Interface > Spell Icons > 'Tint Icons if Out of Range' and 'Tint Icons if Insufficient Power'

gen · 02-13-2006, 07:58 AM

woode wrote:
Options > User Interface > Spell Icons > 'Tint Icons if Out of Range' and 'Tint Icons if Insufficient Power'

unfortunatly this doesnt fix the problem , what we are talking about is icons being tinted when not in stealth

Tealdea · 02-13-2006, 12:00 PM

genes wrote:
woode wrote:
Options > User Interface > Spell Icons > 'Tint Icons if Out of Range' and 'Tint Icons if Insufficient Power'
unfortunatly this doesnt fix the problem , what we are talking about is icons being tinted when not in stealth

He's correct... Doesn't help. I've look at everything and have yet to find a way to get rid of this. This scout-hating feature isn't a result of Out of Range or Insufficient Power, it's a 3rd reason, showing we can't use those skills because we're not stealthed... But, we don't need it lol, I'm sure we all know why we Couldn't use a stealth skill if we're running arround and a level 4 character can see us.

dea · 02-13-2006, 04:45 PM

This has been bugged numerous times in beta and I've brought it up with at least one developer. Apparently some SOE guys don't appreciate it either, so I'm hopeful for a fix.

MystaSkrat · 02-14-2006, 03:32 AM

deaks wrote:Apparently some SOE guys don't appreciate it either

Rofl So how did this annoying feature make it into the game if some of the SOE people don't even like it?

Dragonsviperz · 02-14-2006, 08:44 AM

I've gotten used to it now, but still [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] annoying...hope it gets fixed, hook us up Ekard!!

twiddlethumb · 02-14-2006, 11:18 AM

/bug and /feedbacked this from the day it went in. Hope it will get changed soon

wazzaratio · 02-14-2006, 05:12 PM

I had just started my assassin when this came out and its also dam annoying to me even if i didnt have 60 levels to get used to the other way.

/Waz

Mastera · 02-15-2006, 12:12 AM

MystaSkratch wrote:
deaks wrote:Apparently some SOE guys don't appreciate it either
Rofl So how did this annoying feature make it into the game if some of the SOE people don't even like it?

It probably was not much of an issue towards the beginning of the development cycle.Obviously "ease of coding" is going to be SoEs driving factor on what "fluff" options they were going to include. Some issues aren't worth spending the work hours to fix or implement...especially when your goal is to compile an MMORPG.Now that its driven some internal testers a bit nuts....I think it might be more of a priority.

MystaSkrat · 02-15-2006, 03:26 AM

Masterage wrote:It probably was not much of an issue towards the beginning of the development cycle.Obviously "ease of coding" is going to be SoEs driving factor on what "fluff" options they were going to include. Some issues aren't worth spending the work hours to fix or implement...especially when your goal is to compile an MMORPG.Now that its driven some internal testers a bit nuts....I think it might be more of a priority.

You think by now, they'd know to just include an option to turn this kind of stuff off from the beginning. We know that's what's coming, I don't understand how they thought anyone would like barely being able to tell the difference between a skill that's refreshing and one that requires steatlh -- especially when any scout past level 10 probably knows his skills well enough to know what requires stealth and what doesn't.

Aeralik · 02-15-2006, 11:48 AM

I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

Tealdea · 02-15-2006, 12:00 PM

Aeralik wrote:
I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

Thank you sooo much. I can hardly wait. This thing drives me crazy with the play style I have heh.

Malandrin · 02-15-2006, 12:06 PM

Aeralik wrote:
I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

The same happens when you are using your own carpet and take a public carpet to go elsewhere. Once you arrive at the destination, you are unmounted, but the carpet icon in your hotbar remains tainted, as if you were still using it.

UrkBloodA · 02-15-2006, 04:14 PM

this happens to casters too.

when I am casting a spell it's very difficult to tell which of my green back icons are refreshing and which are up.

same for bard and red backed icons (for skills usable in or out of stealth.)

Mastera · 02-15-2006, 05:09 PM

Aeralik wrote:
I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

Awesome, thanks. More so of informing us....so simple...so easy...so considerate to the end user. It is appreciated./respect

SmEaGoLLuM · 02-15-2006, 07:15 PM

Aeralik wrote:
I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

Thank you.

Historios · 02-15-2006, 08:41 PM

Aeralik wrote:
I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

Will this apply to being out of range as well, or just if "other" requirements arent met.... The oor tinting is handy and I dont want to have to turn it off along with the annoying stealth tinting

Aeralik · 02-15-2006, 09:44 PM

Range checks will still apply when you have a target selected unless of course you choose to disable that option as well SMILEY

dea · 02-15-2006, 10:15 PM

woot

pera · 02-15-2006, 10:16 PM

I'm sure this probably is not the proper place to put this request but while we are on the topic of changing game options for user preferances. Would it be possible to add a "decline all group/raid invites unless LFG"? I'm asking this because it becomes real hasle some times when your adventuring in a zone and randomly you will get drive by invites out of no where. Also its is a common tactic of botters to spam group invites while another persion is adventuring in the same areas as they are to anoy them and preser them to move to somewhere else.I know a person can simply turn 'decline all group invites' on but it would be nice to still be able to decline all group invites unless we are lfg. Or if thats not possible/desireable it would also be cool that leave the options they way they are except when a player does up of the LFG tag the 'decline all group invites' is disabled.

MystaSkrat · 02-15-2006, 11:35 PM

Can't thank you enough Aeralik :smileyhappy:

KirikaNo · 02-15-2006, 11:52 PM

MystaSkratch wrote:Can't thank you enough Aeralik :smileyhappy:

QFT.Now when is this going to be live? I can't freakin wait.

Historios · 02-16-2006, 04:49 AM

Aeralik wrote:
Range checks will still apply when you have a target selected unless of course you choose to disable that option as well

Most excellent

Bugah · 02-16-2006, 08:12 AM

Looks like this will go live with KoS, as it is the Test patchnotes for LU20b.

Tealdea · 02-22-2006, 03:15 AM

5:15pm EST2:15pm PSTI can hardly wait until the server's are back up... first thing I'm doing is disabling this option...Bump btw.

02-13-2006, 07:58 AM	#7
gen Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3	woode wrote: Options > User Interface > Spell Icons > 'Tint Icons if Out of Range' and 'Tint Icons if Insufficient Power' unfortunatly this doesnt fix the problem , what we are talking about is icons being tinted when not in stealth

02-13-2006, 12:00 PM	#8
Tealdea General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 206	genes wrote: woode wrote: Options > User Interface > Spell Icons > 'Tint Icons if Out of Range' and 'Tint Icons if Insufficient Power' unfortunatly this doesnt fix the problem , what we are talking about is icons being tinted when not in stealth He's correct... Doesn't help. I've look at everything and have yet to find a way to get rid of this. This scout-hating feature isn't a result of Out of Range or Insufficient Power, it's a 3rd reason, showing we can't use those skills because we're not stealthed... But, we don't need it lol, I'm sure we all know why we Couldn't use a stealth skill if we're running arround and a level 4 character can see us. __________________ There's not enough... Blood.

02-14-2006, 03:32 AM	#10
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	deaks wrote:Apparently some SOE guys don't appreciate it either Rofl So how did this annoying feature make it into the game if some of the SOE people don't even like it? __________________

02-14-2006, 08:44 AM	#11
Dragonsviperz Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nektulos Posts: 498	I've gotten used to it now, but still [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] annoying...hope it gets fixed, hook us up Ekard!! __________________

02-14-2006, 11:18 AM	#12
twiddlethumb Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	/bug and /feedbacked this from the day it went in. Hope it will get changed soon __________________ Boswachter Assassin

02-12-2006, 12:33 PM	#1
Tealdea General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 206	Is there anyway to disable this little option? It's a pain for stealth classes.Lets have a look. This is a small snap shot of the small hot bar, just at different states, i.e. some skills are being refreshed.Hotbar #1 : All skills are ready for use, there are none that are on their refreshed cycles. Why are some gray? Because I'm not stealth (part of the new "why you can't use this" feature)Hotbar #2 : Still, I'm unstealthed, skills 3, 4, and Z... yes, Z (it's custom, bottom skills, far left) are on their refresh timers. Hard to see the shadow from the recast isn't it?Hotbard #3 : I'm stealthed, all skills are ready to be used (none are refreshing) This is what the hotbar's use to look like before the live update... This is what I miss lol... I didn't need to know why I couldn't use Deathy Blade if I wasn't stealthed because well.... I've played the class for 60 levels rofl, plus, I read the skills So... Anyone got any idea if there's a way to remove this? Any updates incoming with a fix for this? (I say fix because it's breaking me!) __________________ There's not enough... Blood.

02-12-2006, 03:26 PM	#2
Aienaa Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 360	Yeah I hate that also, but have yet to see a way to disable it.... Gwern - 60 Assassin - Kithicor

02-12-2006, 08:02 PM	#3
KirikaNo General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	I absolutely hate this, although I've gotten used to the SLIGHT differences in color between skills that are refreshing and skills are ready... although it can really be a pain in the anus when the skills are very close to being usable (and thus the color fill is very small at the top or the icon). I find myself using MoN or Surveil only to find out I have 2 or 3 seconds left on my CA refresh. Obnoxious. __________________ Arkia Deepees 70 Assassin / Nardsman Old Skool Elysium Ark 2.0: TOTOMOTOMO!

02-12-2006, 08:22 PM	#4
SmEaGoLLuM General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 389	Thank you for clearly illustrating this problem of ours. You/we should PM this thread to the devs, I know I will.

02-12-2006, 11:50 PM	#5
ERROR Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 88	HATE it.

02-13-2006, 07:47 AM	#6
woo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 239	Options > User Interface > Spell Icons > 'Tint Icons if Out of Range' and 'Tint Icons if Insufficient Power'

02-13-2006, 04:45 PM	#9
dea Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 427	This has been bugged numerous times in beta and I've brought it up with at least one developer. Apparently some SOE guys don't appreciate it either, so I'm hopeful for a fix.

02-14-2006, 05:12 PM	#13
wazzaratio Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 29	I had just started my assassin when this came out and its also dam annoying to me even if i didnt have 60 levels to get used to the other way. /Waz

02-15-2006, 12:12 AM	#14
Mastera Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Orange County Posts: 80	MystaSkratch wrote: deaks wrote:Apparently some SOE guys don't appreciate it either Rofl So how did this annoying feature make it into the game if some of the SOE people don't even like it? It probably was not much of an issue towards the beginning of the development cycle.Obviously "ease of coding" is going to be SoEs driving factor on what "fluff" options they were going to include. Some issues aren't worth spending the work hours to fix or implement...especially when your goal is to compile an MMORPG.Now that its driven some internal testers a bit nuts....I think it might be more of a priority. __________________

02-15-2006, 03:26 AM	#15
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	Masterage wrote:It probably was not much of an issue towards the beginning of the development cycle.Obviously "ease of coding" is going to be SoEs driving factor on what "fluff" options they were going to include. Some issues aren't worth spending the work hours to fix or implement...especially when your goal is to compile an MMORPG.Now that its driven some internal testers a bit nuts....I think it might be more of a priority. You think by now, they'd know to just include an option to turn this kind of stuff off from the beginning. We know that's what's coming, I don't understand how they thought anyone would like barely being able to tell the difference between a skill that's refreshing and one that requires steatlh -- especially when any scout past level 10 probably knows his skills well enough to know what requires stealth and what doesn't. __________________

02-15-2006, 11:48 AM	#16
Aeralik Developer Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 672	I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack.

02-15-2006, 12:00 PM	#17
Tealdea General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 206	Aeralik wrote: I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack. Thank you sooo much. I can hardly wait. This thing drives me crazy with the play style I have heh. __________________ There's not enough... Blood.

02-15-2006, 12:06 PM	#18
Malandrin Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 111	Aeralik wrote: I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack. The same happens when you are using your own carpet and take a public carpet to go elsewhere. Once you arrive at the destination, you are unmounted, but the carpet icon in your hotbar remains tainted, as if you were still using it.

02-15-2006, 04:14 PM	#19
UrkBloodA Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 68	this happens to casters too. when I am casting a spell it's very difficult to tell which of my green back icons are refreshing and which are up. same for bard and red backed icons (for skills usable in or out of stealth.)

02-15-2006, 05:09 PM	#20
Mastera Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Orange County Posts: 80	Aeralik wrote: I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack. Awesome, thanks. More so of informing us....so simple...so easy...so considerate to the end user. It is appreciated./respect __________________

02-15-2006, 07:15 PM	#21
SmEaGoLLuM General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 389	Aeralik wrote: I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack. Thank you.

02-15-2006, 08:41 PM	#22
Historios Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 48	Aeralik wrote: I just added a "Tint icons if casting requisites not met" option to turn this off. It will be checked by default but once unchecked it will ignore any special requirments like being stealthed to attack. Will this apply to being out of range as well, or just if "other" requirements arent met.... The oor tinting is handy and I dont want to have to turn it off along with the annoying stealth tinting

02-15-2006, 09:44 PM	#23
Aeralik Developer Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 672	Range checks will still apply when you have a target selected unless of course you choose to disable that option as well

02-15-2006, 10:15 PM	#24
dea Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 427	woot

02-15-2006, 10:16 PM	#25
pera Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 433	I'm sure this probably is not the proper place to put this request but while we are on the topic of changing game options for user preferances. Would it be possible to add a "decline all group/raid invites unless LFG"? I'm asking this because it becomes real hasle some times when your adventuring in a zone and randomly you will get drive by invites out of no where. Also its is a common tactic of botters to spam group invites while another persion is adventuring in the same areas as they are to anoy them and preser them to move to somewhere else.I know a person can simply turn 'decline all group invites' on but it would be nice to still be able to decline all group invites unless we are lfg. Or if thats not possible/desireable it would also be cool that leave the options they way they are except when a player does up of the LFG tag the 'decline all group invites' is disabled. __________________ - Igus 70 Dirge, Second Dawn Best Quote Ever: "BREAKING: New York subways smell funny"

02-15-2006, 11:35 PM	#26
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	Can't thank you enough Aeralik :smileyhappy: __________________

02-15-2006, 11:52 PM	#27
KirikaNo General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	MystaSkratch wrote:Can't thank you enough Aeralik :smileyhappy: QFT.Now when is this going to be live? I can't freakin wait. __________________ Arkia Deepees 70 Assassin / Nardsman Old Skool Elysium Ark 2.0: TOTOMOTOMO!

02-16-2006, 04:49 AM	#28
Historios Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 48	Aeralik wrote: Range checks will still apply when you have a target selected unless of course you choose to disable that option as well Most excellent

02-16-2006, 08:12 AM	#29
Bugah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19	Looks like this will go live with KoS, as it is the Test patchnotes for LU20b. __________________ Papercuts Ogre Assassin of Allure http://www.allureguild.org - Najena

02-22-2006, 03:15 AM	#30
Tealdea General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 206	5:15pm EST2:15pm PSTI can hardly wait until the server's are back up... first thing I'm doing is disabling this option...Bump btw. __________________ There's not enough... Blood.