Waht would you pay for Assassinate Master I ?

MaNiaGG · 02-11-2006, 12:17 PM

Ye, as said above - what would you pay. Keep in mind, that this spell will get updated in the expansion (although at lvl 70). It's for sale for 13pp on my server but I'm quite doubtful...

Xam · 02-11-2006, 04:44 PM

I've bought the assassinate master for 18p

for the lvl 70 update i would pay up to 30p (or hope i loot it my self^^)

Tealdea · 02-11-2006, 05:10 PM

I did Silent City access and the priestess dropped mine. No joke

Remma · 02-11-2006, 06:17 PM

I'd personally not go above 6pp for itNormally for a lvl 50 with an upgrade I'd top out at 4pp but it IS assassinate

meowster007 · 02-11-2006, 08:51 PM

This M1 evades me, Im on Permafrost if 1 ever drops and someone wants to be generous..

So the Priest in LT dropped it?

MystaSkrat · 02-11-2006, 11:24 PM

Got Assassinate and Anathema both from Splitpaw (Acts and Brutal Acts)

Graton · 02-12-2006, 12:15 AM

i wouldn't buy it period. it's going to be replaced by a lvl 70 skill. if lvl progression works in PoS the way it did in DoF it's not going to take long to hit max lvl. i will about guarantee you that the adpet 3 version of the upgrade will outdmg assassinate by quite a bit.

Tealdea · 02-12-2006, 12:38 AM

Remmagell wrote:I'd personally not go above 6pp for itNormally for a lvl 50 with an upgrade I'd top out at 4pp but it IS assassinate

Lol, ya what he said ^... I wouldn't go above 3p on the fact it's a T5 skill and is being replaced in KoS

Message Edited by Tealdeath on 02-11-200611:38 AM

dparker7 · 02-12-2006, 04:54 AM

Also, assassinate is a very small percentage of the total damage output of an assassin. Other masters are much more damage and will increase your DPS quite a bit more without costing you the markup of a marque spell.

Aienaa · 02-12-2006, 03:29 PM

I have not payed more than 4p for any master spell, and I definatly would not pay more for a fun spell like Assassinate....

Gwern - 60 Assassin - Kithicor

dea · 02-13-2006, 04:48 PM

Assassinate (Master I) is lots of fun, other than that it isn't going to change the world for you. You're better off farming Splitpaw Group Arena (and Acts of War) for it, perhaps with an alt depending on your level, than paying through the nose. I figure 2-6p depending on your interest seems about right.Personally I enjoy having it and would probably still be doing group arena daily if I didn't have it. Luckiily a guildmate hooked me up after it dropped in the Group Arena and saved me that daily effort.

yabo75 · 02-14-2006, 03:46 PM

just curious... you were soloing that instance?

if so, i'm all about doing that then =)

Remma · 02-14-2006, 08:59 PM

yabo75 wrote:
just curious... you were soloing that instance?
if so, i'm all about doing that then =)

Hmmm, I'm bored enough to give that a try SMILEY

dea · 02-14-2006, 11:39 PM

The last time I tried Group Arena it was trivialized at lvl 60, so we brought in a lower level alt and mentored down to him before zoning in. I've never done it solo but at least one of our guild healers could do so it just took a while. We usually went in with 3-4 people in order to get it done as fast as possible, it was often after raids and people were tired.

leper · 02-15-2006, 04:16 AM

Mine was a server discovery on Lucan. Dropped in the group arena in Splitpaw (as did a master for Disappear another time).

Aienaa · 02-15-2006, 12:47 PM

The last time I tried Group Arena it was trivialized at lvl 60, so we brought in a lower level alt and mentored down to him before zoning in. I've never done it solo but at least one of our guild healers could do so it just took a while. We usually went in with 3-4 people in order to get it done as fast as possible, it was often after raids and people were tired.

Happen to know at what level this is trivialized? I think I recall level 45 having been made the cap, but I am not sure... Yeah, I tried duoing this with my troub friend a while back and even though stuff was green, it was still trivialized....

Before PoF came out, I was doing group arena every day, some times more than once a day, just never got my Assassinate Master 1....

Also, do you know if Brutal Acts of War gets trivialized as well?

I would still like the Master 1, but I'm not willing to pay alot of money for it, especially if it gets replaced at level 70.... Last time I saw it for sale, some idiot had it listed for 65 plat....

Gwern - 60 Assassin - Kithicor

Amise · 02-15-2006, 02:28 PM

BAoW is not trivialised at 60.

Kokus · 02-15-2006, 09:57 PM

I've personally witnessed Assassinate Master 1 dropping from the heroic arena in Splitpaw on 3 seperate occasions. One of those was when I got mine of course.

snipes · 02-15-2006, 11:07 PM

why pay for it when you will get the upgrade in a few weeks after kos comes out

Daedan

60 assassin unrest

Own · 02-16-2006, 05:30 AM

for the xp trip to 70, but 18pp isnt worth it

Skratttt · 02-16-2006, 05:52 AM

2-3 plat......Its really not a dps spell overall more like a "ohh i got Assassinate M1" status and high hit lists

Like i said Finishing blow M1 is worth more and aslo In T5 Exposing Mark M1 is allso better dps

Kokus · 02-17-2006, 12:29 AM

and if you're not lucky enough to pick up exposing mark master 1, never fear.. the upgrade is one of the level 64 master 2 choices.

Skratttt · 02-17-2006, 12:59 AM

Exposing mark M1 droped for us on a post raid T5 run through..... SMILEY

who says Killing t5 Content dont pay off

Graton · 02-17-2006, 01:24 AM

Kokusho wrote:
and if you're not lucky enough to pick up exposing mark master 1, never fear.. the upgrade is one of the level 64 master 2 choices.

what are the other 3 choices?

Kokus · 02-17-2006, 01:34 AM

/slap!

There are no other 3 choices! Don't even look!

MystaSkrat · 02-17-2006, 08:56 AM

This is from Test Update 20b :

- Triggered spell effects will now only trigger as many times as they are supposed to, even if the trigger action happens multiple times at once.

That sounds like it's going to affect our Mark spell line to me.

scivias · 02-17-2006, 10:28 AM

MystaSkratch wrote:
This is from Test Update 20b :

- Triggered spell effects will now only trigger as many times as they are supposed to, even if the trigger action happens multiple times at once.

That sounds like it's going to affect our Mark spell line to me.

It is not.

EtoilePirate · 02-17-2006, 10:33 AM

dparker713 wrote:
Also, assassinate is a very small percentage of the total damage output of an assassin. Other masters are much more damage and will increase your DPS quite a bit more without costing you the markup of a marque spell.

Right.Like most of the rest of us I'm sure, I spent my first ruby on Assassinate Adept 3. But unless a master dropped itself into my hands (and given how my home server works, if someone found it, it would just drop into my hands) I wouldn't pursue one. Let's examine: the Adept 3 of Assassinate does something like 3500-7000 damage. (Those aren't the exact numbers anymore, not by a long shot, but it's good enough for an example.) That's every 15 minutes.But I took Condemning Blade for my Master II at my last opportunity -- and that's roughly 2800-3500 damage every three minutes. Worth paying good plat for the Master I of Assassinate? No way. Especially with an upgrade on its way in T7.[Edited for my initial miserable failure to type in legible English.]

Message Edited by EtoilePB on 02-17-200612:36 AM

Skratttt · 02-17-2006, 12:02 PM

Actualy DB (54 training) M2 reads for me in the 4200 max range....

I have seen hits past the 6k range with brigs

Pierce Debuff poison is our friend SMILEY

Impressive?? yes...yet Exposing Mark M1 with brigs in group will give u 5 hits avg of 700= 3500 dmg...but thats every 30 seconds!!

So in the time u Cast 1 DB for 6k dmg u cast 6 Exposing marks 21000 dmg......

Exposing M1 VS Assass M1

Exposing 105k dmg over 15 min (lol if you could regen and fight that long straight)...Assassinate 12k dmg...saying you spend 50% of time fighting and 50% of time resting it still wins by 5:1 SMILEY

That "small" fix to Exposing made a HUGE diff on our DPS and put us where we should be

Bad thing about exposing is that in xp groups it rarely goes off...in raids its prety quick

So yeah at 64 there is only 1 option!!1 the upgraded mark line

MystaSkrat · 02-17-2006, 05:51 PM

scivias wrote:
MystaSkratch wrote:
This is from Test Update 20b :

- Triggered spell effects will now only trigger as many times as they are supposed to, even if the trigger action happens multiple times at once.

That sounds like it's going to affect our Mark spell line to me.
It is not.

Really? Cuz the skill description clearly says "the next 5 attacks" and I know it triggers more than 5 times a lot. Guess we'll see.

02-11-2006, 05:10 PM	#3
Tealdea General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 206	I did Silent City access and the priestess dropped mine. No joke __________________ There's not enough... Blood.

02-11-2006, 06:17 PM	#4
Remma Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 98	I'd personally not go above 6pp for itNormally for a lvl 50 with an upgrade I'd top out at 4pp but it IS assassinate __________________ Remma 90 Assassin / 90 Jeweler Nephilim 90 Defiler / 90 Sage Uberfoot 90 Warden / 90 Carpenter Remfroak 90 Bruiser / 90 Tailor Nuttmeg 90 Conjuror / 90 Alchemist Moyst 82 Zerker / 90 Woodworker Mammon 90 Shadowknight / 90 Armourer Elesium 40 some Inq / 90 Weaponsmith Huginn 90 Coercer / 90 Provvy

02-11-2006, 11:24 PM	#6
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	Got Assassinate and Anathema both from Splitpaw (Acts and Brutal Acts) __________________

02-12-2006, 12:15 AM	#7
Graton Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 521	i wouldn't buy it period. it's going to be replaced by a lvl 70 skill. if lvl progression works in PoS the way it did in DoF it's not going to take long to hit max lvl. i will about guarantee you that the adpet 3 version of the upgrade will outdmg assassinate by quite a bit. __________________ Graton 70 Assassin / 70 Jeweler Ancient Vengeance Najena

02-12-2006, 12:38 AM	#8
Tealdea General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 206	Remmagell wrote:I'd personally not go above 6pp for itNormally for a lvl 50 with an upgrade I'd top out at 4pp but it IS assassinate Lol, ya what he said ^... I wouldn't go above 3p on the fact it's a T5 skill and is being replaced in KoS Message Edited by Tealdeath on 02-11-200611:38 AM __________________ There's not enough... Blood.

02-11-2006, 12:17 PM	#1
MaNiaGG Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 136	Ye, as said above - what would you pay. Keep in mind, that this spell will get updated in the expansion (although at lvl 70). It's for sale for 13pp on my server but I'm quite doubtful...

02-11-2006, 04:44 PM	#2
Xam General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 11	I've bought the assassinate master for 18p for the lvl 70 update i would pay up to 30p (or hope i loot it my self^^)

02-11-2006, 08:51 PM	#5
meowster007 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 18	This M1 evades me, Im on Permafrost if 1 ever drops and someone wants to be generous.. So the Priest in LT dropped it?

02-12-2006, 04:54 AM	#9
dparker7 General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 204	Also, assassinate is a very small percentage of the total damage output of an assassin. Other masters are much more damage and will increase your DPS quite a bit more without costing you the markup of a marque spell.

02-12-2006, 03:29 PM	#10
Aienaa Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 360	I have not payed more than 4p for any master spell, and I definatly would not pay more for a fun spell like Assassinate.... Gwern - 60 Assassin - Kithicor

02-13-2006, 04:48 PM	#11
dea Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 427	Assassinate (Master I) is lots of fun, other than that it isn't going to change the world for you. You're better off farming Splitpaw Group Arena (and Acts of War) for it, perhaps with an alt depending on your level, than paying through the nose. I figure 2-6p depending on your interest seems about right.Personally I enjoy having it and would probably still be doing group arena daily if I didn't have it. Luckiily a guildmate hooked me up after it dropped in the Group Arena and saved me that daily effort.

02-14-2006, 03:46 PM	#12
yabo75 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	just curious... you were soloing that instance? if so, i'm all about doing that then =) __________________

02-14-2006, 08:59 PM	#13
Remma Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 98	yabo75 wrote: just curious... you were soloing that instance? if so, i'm all about doing that then =) Hmmm, I'm bored enough to give that a try __________________ Remma 90 Assassin / 90 Jeweler Nephilim 90 Defiler / 90 Sage Uberfoot 90 Warden / 90 Carpenter Remfroak 90 Bruiser / 90 Tailor Nuttmeg 90 Conjuror / 90 Alchemist Moyst 82 Zerker / 90 Woodworker Mammon 90 Shadowknight / 90 Armourer Elesium 40 some Inq / 90 Weaponsmith Huginn 90 Coercer / 90 Provvy

02-14-2006, 11:39 PM	#14
dea Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 427	The last time I tried Group Arena it was trivialized at lvl 60, so we brought in a lower level alt and mentored down to him before zoning in. I've never done it solo but at least one of our guild healers could do so it just took a while. We usually went in with 3-4 people in order to get it done as fast as possible, it was often after raids and people were tired.

02-15-2006, 04:16 AM	#15
leper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6	Mine was a server discovery on Lucan. Dropped in the group arena in Splitpaw (as did a master for Disappear another time). __________________

02-15-2006, 12:47 PM	#16
Aienaa Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 360	The last time I tried Group Arena it was trivialized at lvl 60, so we brought in a lower level alt and mentored down to him before zoning in. I've never done it solo but at least one of our guild healers could do so it just took a while. We usually went in with 3-4 people in order to get it done as fast as possible, it was often after raids and people were tired. Happen to know at what level this is trivialized? I think I recall level 45 having been made the cap, but I am not sure... Yeah, I tried duoing this with my troub friend a while back and even though stuff was green, it was still trivialized.... Before PoF came out, I was doing group arena every day, some times more than once a day, just never got my Assassinate Master 1.... Also, do you know if Brutal Acts of War gets trivialized as well? I would still like the Master 1, but I'm not willing to pay alot of money for it, especially if it gets replaced at level 70.... Last time I saw it for sale, some idiot had it listed for 65 plat.... Gwern - 60 Assassin - Kithicor

02-15-2006, 02:28 PM	#17
Amise Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 473	BAoW is not trivialised at 60.

02-15-2006, 09:57 PM	#18
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	I've personally witnessed Assassinate Master 1 dropping from the heroic arena in Splitpaw on 3 seperate occasions. One of those was when I got mine of course. __________________

02-15-2006, 11:07 PM	#19
snipes General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 38	why pay for it when you will get the upgrade in a few weeks after kos comes out Daedan 60 assassin unrest

02-16-2006, 05:30 AM	#20
Own Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 71	for the xp trip to 70, but 18pp isnt worth it

02-16-2006, 05:52 AM	#21
Skratttt Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 375	2-3 plat......Its really not a dps spell overall more like a "ohh i got Assassinate M1" status and high hit lists Like i said Finishing blow M1 is worth more and aslo In T5 Exposing Mark M1 is allso better dps

02-17-2006, 12:29 AM	#22
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	and if you're not lucky enough to pick up exposing mark master 1, never fear.. the upgrade is one of the level 64 master 2 choices. __________________

02-17-2006, 12:59 AM	#23
Skratttt Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 375	Exposing mark M1 droped for us on a post raid T5 run through..... who says Killing t5 Content dont pay off

02-17-2006, 01:24 AM	#24
Graton Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 521	Kokusho wrote: and if you're not lucky enough to pick up exposing mark master 1, never fear.. the upgrade is one of the level 64 master 2 choices. what are the other 3 choices? __________________ Graton 70 Assassin / 70 Jeweler Ancient Vengeance Najena

02-17-2006, 01:34 AM	#25
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	/slap! There are no other 3 choices! Don't even look! __________________

02-17-2006, 08:56 AM	#26
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	This is from Test Update 20b : - Triggered spell effects will now only trigger as many times as they are supposed to, even if the trigger action happens multiple times at once. That sounds like it's going to affect our Mark spell line to me. __________________

02-17-2006, 10:28 AM	#27
scivias Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 475	MystaSkratch wrote: This is from Test Update 20b : - Triggered spell effects will now only trigger as many times as they are supposed to, even if the trigger action happens multiple times at once. That sounds like it's going to affect our Mark spell line to me. It is not. __________________

02-17-2006, 10:33 AM	#28
EtoilePirate Tester Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,258	dparker713 wrote: Also, assassinate is a very small percentage of the total damage output of an assassin. Other masters are much more damage and will increase your DPS quite a bit more without costing you the markup of a marque spell. Right.Like most of the rest of us I'm sure, I spent my first ruby on Assassinate Adept 3. But unless a master dropped itself into my hands (and given how my home server works, if someone found it, it would just drop into my hands) I wouldn't pursue one. Let's examine: the Adept 3 of Assassinate does something like 3500-7000 damage. (Those aren't the exact numbers anymore, not by a long shot, but it's good enough for an example.) That's every 15 minutes.But I took Condemning Blade for my Master II at my last opportunity -- and that's roughly 2800-3500 damage every three minutes. Worth paying good plat for the Master I of Assassinate? No way. Especially with an upgrade on its way in T7.[Edited for my initial miserable failure to type in legible English.] Message Edited by EtoilePB on 02-17-200612:36 AM __________________ Kella The Mighty Pirate, Assassin & Tailor Nimari, Fury-at-Large Test Server

02-17-2006, 12:02 PM	#29
Skratttt Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 375	Actualy DB (54 training) M2 reads for me in the 4200 max range.... I have seen hits past the 6k range with brigs Pierce Debuff poison is our friend Impressive?? yes...yet Exposing Mark M1 with brigs in group will give u 5 hits avg of 700= 3500 dmg...but thats every 30 seconds!! So in the time u Cast 1 DB for 6k dmg u cast 6 Exposing marks 21000 dmg...... Exposing M1 VS Assass M1 Exposing 105k dmg over 15 min (lol if you could regen and fight that long straight)...Assassinate 12k dmg...saying you spend 50% of time fighting and 50% of time resting it still wins by 5:1 That "small" fix to Exposing made a HUGE diff on our DPS and put us where we should be Bad thing about exposing is that in xp groups it rarely goes off...in raids its prety quick So yeah at 64 there is only 1 option!!1 the upgraded mark line

02-17-2006, 05:51 PM	#30
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	scivias wrote: MystaSkratch wrote: This is from Test Update 20b : - Triggered spell effects will now only trigger as many times as they are supposed to, even if the trigger action happens multiple times at once. That sounds like it's going to affect our Mark spell line to me. It is not. Really? Cuz the skill description clearly says "the next 5 attacks" and I know it triggers more than 5 times a lot. Guess we'll see. __________________