Now that we are officially 'fine' what alt are you rolling?

TwistedFaith · 07-29-2006, 03:37 PM

Seeing as we are all a bunch of crap rangers and obviously have no idea how to play the ranger class I was wondering what people are going to roll altwise.So far I have myself a dirge that I kinda like, useful for raiding and pretty decent in groups.I have also rolled a illusionist who will become a coercer eventually. I had the opportunity to play a 70 coercer on a raid yesterday and wow that was fun, lots and lots of options and a crate load of tactics required.SO whats everyone else doing? You guys going for another DPS class like a Rogue or doing something completly different?

LoreLady · 07-29-2006, 04:10 PM

Im still waiting till EoF and im sticking to my word. There are still afew changes out there that im expecting to help out.

Serventof Wrath · 07-29-2006, 04:55 PM

Looks like my illusionist is gonna go from questing and crafting pretty much sitting at lvl 50 into power lvl mode. Might also start focusing on my 33 Templar as well.

dubbs · 07-29-2006, 05:15 PM

I switched mains to my Paladin about 6 weeks ago. It's great not having to log on everyday and wonder what else was being nerfed about my class.

Sirlutt · 07-29-2006, 05:31 PM

dubbs wrote:
I switched mains to my Paladin about 6 weeks ago. It's great not having to log on everyday and wonder what else was being nerfed about my class.

yep.If i hadnt had the option to betray (which more people consider now i bet, and rightly so) then I would have leveled my dirge, or created a brigand.

Drainlo · 07-29-2006, 05:58 PM

started playing an assassin a few weeks ago, love it. I find swashy to be really fun too. I kinda play my alt assassin more than my main now SMILEY

Playing toons that are actually more useful feels nice.

Dojoc · 07-29-2006, 06:26 PM

I'll play until EoF comes out, if then nothing happends to the Ranger class into the better ... bye bye eq2 ... lol, never saw such a stupid post from a dev until yesterday ....ah forgot to say, playing currently a little bit my fury ... a lot more fun i can tell you

Nachricht bearbeitet von Dojocan am 07-29-2006 07:27 AM

BSbon · 07-29-2006, 06:37 PM

i have a bruiser, necro, templar and guardian and ranger is still my favorite.

griffit · 07-29-2006, 07:23 PM

Betrayed my Ranger.All I can say is that playing a Ranger in EQ2 is still more entertaining than playing a Hunter in World of Warcraft.

Dirtgirl · 07-29-2006, 07:33 PM

I have a Coercer and a baby Dirge.
Not sure which will get more attention yet.

Pins · 07-29-2006, 07:40 PM

Dirtgirl wrote:
I have a Coercer and a baby Dirge.
Not sure which will get more attention yet.

Betray and be an Illusionist so you can beat Manyank on the parse again!

Dirtgirl · 07-29-2006, 07:45 PM

well i still beat him now and then lol...plus in the easy zones he likes to build groups around himself just to show us all up BAD.

Katsugen · 07-29-2006, 08:53 PM

zerker is only 42 atm but he's coming along

- Katsugen

Jayad · 07-29-2006, 11:08 PM

My new guild wants me to raid with my warden so that's what I'm doing.

TerriBlades · 07-30-2006, 02:33 AM

I didnt believe all the hype about rogues being able to DPS as well as rangers, but as more and more ppl started talking about it, I became curious and rolled up a brigand. At the moment shes 53 (and going places she has no business being). I've already gotten a thumbs up, if I so desire, from my GL to play the brigand over my well equipped ranger. Shouldnt take too much longer to grind out to 70, pick up some decent gear, and start hitting a few raid zones to see how things go. At least when its all said and done I'll know, once and for all, the truth about rouges > rangers.

Lexan · 07-30-2006, 02:35 AM

I have 4 lvl 70's

Defiler

Zerker

Monk

And the Ranger SMILEY

Wil81115 · 07-30-2006, 02:51 AM

We are not 'fine'. Their data is flawed some how, or maybe the way its collected. I'm not rerolling or betrayting. If all these end game rangers and HIGH END raiding guilds are TELLING you there is a problem, then there IS..

If i do anything else it will be to move on to a different game. I wonder how many more players they will lose before they go, 'Ops looky what we found, we're working on a speculative fix now ' it'll be to late IF ever. Just look at the player base now.. its dwindling month by month...:smileysad:

Mirdo · 07-30-2006, 03:00 AM

I might get flamed for this but here goes.. This issue only manifests itself in guilds that aim for high DPS groups - 16-20k depending on zone. The data the Dev's are viewing is across the spectrum of guilds - from the huge number of 'average' to the low number of 'uber' guilds. I know from personal experience how few guilds are actually able to really optimise for DPS. When you join one it's a real eye opener. I have no doubt that the data the Dev's are viewing shows us to be in a decant situation. I also have no doubt that in a very high DPS guild Rangers will be scoring behind Wizzies, warlocks, Swashies, Brigands and Summoners. This issue seems to only affect a very low percentage of the population so is unlikely to be recognised and addressed. My chosen alt - my Ranger as long as my guild wants me on raids . BUT it sodding hurts to be less than efficient for the 23 other people putting up with my gimped presence on the raids. The raw data might tell one story, but in the guilds optimising fro DPS - frankly Rangers suck. AND bows - SoE said they would fix them - your current bow content is junk - seriously - consider the bow DR's versus easily obtainable Legendary dual wielders or, in the case of tanks, 2 handers. Your bow itemisation looks like it's been done via script or a 10 year old. M.

LoreLady · 07-30-2006, 03:23 AM

Mirdo wrote:I might get flamed for this but here goes.. This issue only manifests itself in guilds that aim for high DPS groups - 16-20k depending on zone. The data the Dev's are viewing is across the spectrum of guilds - from the huge number of 'average' to the low number of 'uber' guilds. I know from personal experience how few guilds are actually able to really optimise for DPS. When you join one it's a real eye opener. I have no doubt that the data the Dev's are viewing shows us to be in a decant situation. I also have no doubt that in a very high DPS guild Rangers will be scoring behind Wizzies, warlocks, Swashies, Brigands and Summoners. This issue seems to only affect a very low percentage of the population so is unlikely to be recognised and addressed. My chosen alt - my Ranger as long as my guild wants me on raids . BUT it sodding hurts to be less than efficient for the 23 other people putting up with my gimped presence on the raids. The raw data might tell one story, but in the guilds optimising fro DPS - frankly Rangers suck. AND bows - SoE said they would fix them - your current bow content is junk - seriously - consider the bow DR's versus easily obtainable Legendary dual wielders or, in the case of tanks, 2 handers. Your bow itemisation looks like it's been done via script or a 10 year old. M.

Well said.

Nak · 07-30-2006, 03:39 AM

What class sucks the least? Is fun to play? Doesn't involve tanking or healing ? And isn't a scout ? I think all classes suck and xping is too boring, but if someone can give me insight i'd be thankful! :smileyhappy:

Sirlutt · 07-30-2006, 03:47 AM

Naku9 wrote:What class sucks the least? Is fun to play? Doesn't involve tanking or healing ? And isn't a scout ? I think all classes suck and xping is too boring, but if someone can give me insight i'd be thankful! :smileyhappy:

i think you described a summoner or Wizard.

Jayad · 07-30-2006, 03:47 AM

I've liked playing my necro. I have him for when I solo a lot (playing late at night without a lot of time) They perform well in all situations - solo, group, raid, although I haven't gotten to raid much with em. It took a while to really learn how to solo with em. it seemed very easy when other people did it, then when I started to try and solo heroics they splatted me all over the floor. After dying a lot, now I can do it decently. Better make sure your spells are adept3 before trying SMILEY

Nak · 07-30-2006, 03:48 AM

k i'll make a wizard I'd consider conj or necro but in the 1/10000000000000000000000000000 chance he made it past lvl 50, and the 1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000 chance it made it to 70, pet masters would be too expensive for me :smileyvery-happy:

Message Edited by Naku9 on 07-29-2006 04:50 PM

Jayad · 07-30-2006, 03:55 AM

lol. That is a serious consideration. I don't think there's any way my necro will become a real raiding toon, so I haven't worried about pet masters, but that is important for raids.

KnightOfTheWo · 07-30-2006, 12:35 PM

Not a high end raider, so DPS debate doesn't really affect me. Ranger is fun for soloing, groups, zones and any raids where the goal is not mastery by a professional raiding guild. Best of luck to all.

TaleraRis · 07-31-2006, 09:16 AM

Well I've already been leveling alts to play with my boyfriend, so the point is moot for me SMILEY

Worked on my bruiser tonight. Got her from level 7 to 14 and I've got to say, she's pretty powerful at this level. I can only imagine how she'll be paired with my bf's fury. I have a conjuror I pair with my bf's berserker. Also have a shadowknight and illusionist I play around with. I have alt-itis. Gwyn isn't going anywhere, though. The solo game for rangers is just fine. We can handle the content we're meant to handle. But I do hope my raiding brothers and sisters get the boost that it's pretty obvious they need.

nirav21 · 07-31-2006, 08:49 PM

iLLUTIONIST

Spite · 07-31-2006, 11:16 PM

66 Zerker - starting to push ranger numbers already.

LaKai65 · 08-01-2006, 12:49 AM

i hate to say it but im rollin a troub and a brigand =(

Longtrang · 08-01-2006, 12:56 AM

I have been on my Dirge mostly, trying to finish AAXP. Then I will switch to the Illuionist to finish off his AA.

I log my ranger in every day to do /feedback and then it's back to the alts.

07-29-2006, 04:10 PM	#2
LoreLady Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	Im still waiting till EoF and im sticking to my word. There are still afew changes out there that im expecting to help out. __________________ RIP Oakleaf 1949-2006

07-29-2006, 05:15 PM	#4
dubbs Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 160	I switched mains to my Paladin about 6 weeks ago. It's great not having to log on everyday and wonder what else was being nerfed about my class. __________________

07-29-2006, 05:31 PM	#5
Sirlutt Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,149	dubbs wrote: I switched mains to my Paladin about 6 weeks ago. It's great not having to log on everyday and wonder what else was being nerfed about my class. yep.If i hadnt had the option to betray (which more people consider now i bet, and rightly so) then I would have leveled my dirge, or created a brigand. __________________ I heart DE Broads

07-29-2006, 05:58 PM	#6
Drainlo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: here? Posts: 28	started playing an assassin a few weeks ago, love it. I find swashy to be really fun too. I kinda play my alt assassin more than my main now Playing toons that are actually more useful feels nice. __________________ signature?

07-29-2006, 06:37 PM	#8
BSbon General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 605	i have a bruiser, necro, templar and guardian and ranger is still my favorite. __________________ Click Here for Amazing Superteam Comics updated Tuesday and Thursday " width="360" height="81">

07-29-2006, 03:37 PM	#1
TwistedFaith Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 892	Seeing as we are all a bunch of crap rangers and obviously have no idea how to play the ranger class I was wondering what people are going to roll altwise.So far I have myself a dirge that I kinda like, useful for raiding and pretty decent in groups.I have also rolled a illusionist who will become a coercer eventually. I had the opportunity to play a 70 coercer on a raid yesterday and wow that was fun, lots and lots of options and a crate load of tactics required.SO whats everyone else doing? You guys going for another DPS class like a Rogue or doing something completly different?

07-29-2006, 04:55 PM	#3
Serventof Wrath Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 170	Looks like my illusionist is gonna go from questing and crafting pretty much sitting at lvl 50 into power lvl mode. Might also start focusing on my 33 Templar as well.

07-29-2006, 06:26 PM	#7
Dojoc General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 252	I'll play until EoF comes out, if then nothing happends to the Ranger class into the better ... bye bye eq2 ... lol, never saw such a stupid post from a dev until yesterday ....ah forgot to say, playing currently a little bit my fury ... a lot more fun i can tell you Nachricht bearbeitet von Dojocan am 07-29-2006 07:27 AM

07-29-2006, 07:23 PM	#9
griffit General Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 48	Betrayed my Ranger.All I can say is that playing a Ranger in EQ2 is still more entertaining than playing a Hunter in World of Warcraft.

07-29-2006, 07:33 PM	#10
Dirtgirl Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 320	I have a Coercer and a baby Dirge. Not sure which will get more attention yet. __________________ Yeah, I died a lot.

07-29-2006, 07:40 PM	#11
Pins General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,040	Dirtgirl wrote: I have a Coercer and a baby Dirge. Not sure which will get more attention yet. Betray and be an Illusionist so you can beat Manyank on the parse again! __________________ Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Dissolution on Nektulos Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Confirmed on Unrest

07-29-2006, 07:45 PM	#12
Dirtgirl Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 320	well i still beat him now and then lol...plus in the easy zones he likes to build groups around himself just to show us all up BAD. __________________ Yeah, I died a lot.

07-29-2006, 08:53 PM	#13
Katsugen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 95	zerker is only 42 atm but he's coming along - Katsugen

07-29-2006, 11:08 PM	#14
Jayad Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Raelyn @ Permafrost Posts: 1,306	My new guild wants me to raid with my warden so that's what I'm doing.

07-30-2006, 02:33 AM	#15
TerriBlades Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 588	I didnt believe all the hype about rogues being able to DPS as well as rangers, but as more and more ppl started talking about it, I became curious and rolled up a brigand. At the moment shes 53 (and going places she has no business being). I've already gotten a thumbs up, if I so desire, from my GL to play the brigand over my well equipped ranger. Shouldnt take too much longer to grind out to 70, pick up some decent gear, and start hitting a few raid zones to see how things go. At least when its all said and done I'll know, once and for all, the truth about rouges > rangers. __________________

07-30-2006, 02:35 AM	#16
Lexan General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 170	I have 4 lvl 70's Defiler Zerker Monk And the Ranger __________________ Kobal...Bezerker of Dissolution Axkiva Min...Ranger of Dissolution...(retired: class currently crap) Siegfreid... Monk of Ye Drunken Horde Kazzi... Defiler of Ye Drunken Horde

07-30-2006, 02:51 AM	#17
Wil81115 Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 88	We are not 'fine'. Their data is flawed some how, or maybe the way its collected. I'm not rerolling or betrayting. If all these end game rangers and HIGH END raiding guilds are TELLING you there is a problem, then there IS.. If i do anything else it will be to move on to a different game. I wonder how many more players they will lose before they go, 'Ops looky what we found, we're working on a speculative fix now ' it'll be to late IF ever. Just look at the player base now.. its dwindling month by month...:smileysad:

07-30-2006, 03:00 AM	#18
Mirdo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 395	I might get flamed for this but here goes.. This issue only manifests itself in guilds that aim for high DPS groups - 16-20k depending on zone. The data the Dev's are viewing is across the spectrum of guilds - from the huge number of 'average' to the low number of 'uber' guilds. I know from personal experience how few guilds are actually able to really optimise for DPS. When you join one it's a real eye opener. I have no doubt that the data the Dev's are viewing shows us to be in a decant situation. I also have no doubt that in a very high DPS guild Rangers will be scoring behind Wizzies, warlocks, Swashies, Brigands and Summoners. This issue seems to only affect a very low percentage of the population so is unlikely to be recognised and addressed. My chosen alt - my Ranger as long as my guild wants me on raids . BUT it sodding hurts to be less than efficient for the 23 other people putting up with my gimped presence on the raids. The raw data might tell one story, but in the guilds optimising fro DPS - frankly Rangers suck. AND bows - SoE said they would fix them - your current bow content is junk - seriously - consider the bow DR's versus easily obtainable Legendary dual wielders or, in the case of tanks, 2 handers. Your bow itemisation looks like it's been done via script or a 10 year old. M.

07-30-2006, 03:23 AM	#19
LoreLady Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	Mirdo wrote:I might get flamed for this but here goes.. This issue only manifests itself in guilds that aim for high DPS groups - 16-20k depending on zone. The data the Dev's are viewing is across the spectrum of guilds - from the huge number of 'average' to the low number of 'uber' guilds. I know from personal experience how few guilds are actually able to really optimise for DPS. When you join one it's a real eye opener. I have no doubt that the data the Dev's are viewing shows us to be in a decant situation. I also have no doubt that in a very high DPS guild Rangers will be scoring behind Wizzies, warlocks, Swashies, Brigands and Summoners. This issue seems to only affect a very low percentage of the population so is unlikely to be recognised and addressed. My chosen alt - my Ranger as long as my guild wants me on raids . BUT it sodding hurts to be less than efficient for the 23 other people putting up with my gimped presence on the raids. The raw data might tell one story, but in the guilds optimising fro DPS - frankly Rangers suck. AND bows - SoE said they would fix them - your current bow content is junk - seriously - consider the bow DR's versus easily obtainable Legendary dual wielders or, in the case of tanks, 2 handers. Your bow itemisation looks like it's been done via script or a 10 year old. M. Well said. __________________ RIP Oakleaf 1949-2006

07-30-2006, 03:39 AM	#20
Nak General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 140	What class sucks the least? Is fun to play? Doesn't involve tanking or healing ? And isn't a scout ? I think all classes suck and xping is too boring, but if someone can give me insight i'd be thankful! :smileyhappy:

07-30-2006, 03:47 AM	#21
Sirlutt Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,149	Naku9 wrote:What class sucks the least? Is fun to play? Doesn't involve tanking or healing ? And isn't a scout ? I think all classes suck and xping is too boring, but if someone can give me insight i'd be thankful! :smileyhappy: i think you described a summoner or Wizard. __________________ I heart DE Broads

07-30-2006, 03:48 AM	#23
Nak General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 140	k i'll make a wizard I'd consider conj or necro but in the 1/10000000000000000000000000000 chance he made it past lvl 50, and the 1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000 chance it made it to 70, pet masters would be too expensive for me :smileyvery-happy: Message Edited by Naku9 on 07-29-2006 04:50 PM

07-30-2006, 03:55 AM	#24
Jayad Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Raelyn @ Permafrost Posts: 1,306	lol. That is a serious consideration. I don't think there's any way my necro will become a real raiding toon, so I haven't worried about pet masters, but that is important for raids.

07-30-2006, 12:35 PM	#25
KnightOfTheWo General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 304	Not a high end raider, so DPS debate doesn't really affect me. Ranger is fun for soloing, groups, zones and any raids where the goal is not mastery by a professional raiding guild. Best of luck to all. __________________

07-31-2006, 09:16 AM	#26
TaleraRis Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,083	Well I've already been leveling alts to play with my boyfriend, so the point is moot for me Worked on my bruiser tonight. Got her from level 7 to 14 and I've got to say, she's pretty powerful at this level. I can only imagine how she'll be paired with my bf's fury. I have a conjuror I pair with my bf's berserker. Also have a shadowknight and illusionist I play around with. I have alt-itis. Gwyn isn't going anywhere, though. The solo game for rangers is just fine. We can handle the content we're meant to handle. But I do hope my raiding brothers and sisters get the boost that it's pretty obvious they need. __________________ Gwyneth Lecarde 90 Warty Arrow Flinger 90 Sword Shiner Najena Morgasand Ka'Bael 54 Roswellian Mind Scrambler 87 Shield Polisher Najena

07-31-2006, 08:49 PM	#27
nirav21 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 99	iLLUTIONIST __________________ Nisox 70 Ranger on Nagafen

07-31-2006, 11:16 PM	#28
Spite Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	66 Zerker - starting to push ranger numbers already.

08-01-2006, 12:49 AM	#29
LaKai65 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22	i hate to say it but im rollin a troub and a brigand =(

08-01-2006, 12:56 AM	#30
Longtrang Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	I have been on my Dirge mostly, trying to finish AAXP. Then I will switch to the Illuionist to finish off his AA. I log my ranger in every day to do /feedback and then it's back to the alts.