Hotbar setup of experienced Brigands

[Llars]

Would any experienced Brigands be willing to discuss their hotbar setup?  I recently reached the point where I had to do some serious thinking about how to set up my hotbar icons and I assume it's not gonna get any easier as I keep getting new abilities   Are there any general layouts that you follow?  Any must-have sequences?  Life-saver macros?I'm just trying to pick some brains here.  This is the type of thing that players refine and refine again as they experiment and find out what works..  but.. since some of you guys have already done all that refining, there's no need for me to have to do it too, right?  Kidding..  seriously though, I would like to hear any thoughts you older Brigs have on the subject.  Thanks

[Magus_Bl]

I'll assume you're asking about for raid.  Some of it will depend on what mob you're fighting.  For some getting debuffs out is more critical than on others (like Tarinax), or getting swipe up (like most AE mobs other than Tarinax).  At the risk of being called a major noob for not doing it the absolute best way, on a standard mob:

 

I'll usually revoke first.  I do this since this is the only attack we can't use from behind, so I can get that out of the way then stick behind the mob for the rest of my CA's till revoke refreshes.  Then will shrouded blade and ruckus, because they are good debuffs for the start of a fight and have fast recast... so will be back up and ready when done with some other CA's.  If it's a tough mob, I might hideaway and skewer...

Then get your dots out.  Some will tell you to get these out right away for best dps.  I will usually do the above first, though.

 

Then major debuffs.. secure (to kill the wizzy), devitalize, rake, dispatch.. followed by restrain, malicious assualt, double up... then anything else you have up still.

 

 

[Jida]

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Llars wrote:Are there any general layouts that you follow?  Any must-have sequences?  Life-saver macros?

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Well,here's what i do.. I have everything lumped together on the bottom. the gold chest is a macro i use for raidingit targets the MAuses pick pocketstarts auto attack.=)

[Brigandy]

I'd figured I'd throw mine in there for [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]s and giggles.  Experiencd...meh.  I just keel stuffs.  As far as raid setup goes...whats a raid:smileytongue:   Considering I have now 3 accounts going sometimes, I've always followed the same rule with my hotbars regardles of the class (have played them all.....twice....expect a mage).  I usually put the basic sprint/auto/ranged/HO in the first 4 spaces.  Then depending on the class ( I have alot of scouts) I go right into the basic frontal attack or non positional attacks to fill HOTBAR 1.  HOTBAR 2 usually consists of my stuns followed by my backstabs or positional CA's.  However if you look at key 11 I put Hideaway there to be able to deaggro before I fire off Skewer.  HOTBAR 3 then finishes off with the the basic stun/debuff and moves into the snares/debuffs.  However as you can see I left Band of Thugs and Walk the Plank because I got lazy and it just works.  Also Decitfulness sneaked in there too right next to the Runious Heart slot and Smuggle, which I only use to drag lowbie alts around dungeons.  HOTBAR 4 is mainly all Self Buffs, Manastone and the money maker, Pick Pocket. Hotbars 5 and 6 are over to yor right, usually consits of Master Strikes, Clobber (fluff spell) and tradeskill icons.Ideally I could setup more macros to fire off two CA's, along with Dispatch and Double Up, and so on, but I'm lazy and sometimes Dispatch doesnt fire off when I need it to (meaning, I moved out of position, etc).  Oh, but oh [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] face next to Dispatch on HOTBAR 2 is my Raid/Group Dispatch INC macro without the /useability incase I dont connect and people start unloading without it sticking.

Message Edited by Brigandy on 11-09-2006 04:16 PM

[DaLurk]

Save slots, make a unique text macro for all Mastery Strikes.Same with Hideaway+Skewer.

Message Edited by DaLurker on 11-10-2006 04:44 AM

[DarkMirrax]

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Brigandy wrote:


I'd figured I'd throw mine in there for [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]s and giggles.  Experiencd...meh.  I just keel stuffs.  As far as raid setup goes...whats a raid:smileytongue:   Considering I have now 3 accounts going sometimes, I've always followed the same rule with my hotbars regardles of the class (have played them all.....twice....expect a mage).  I usually put the basic sprint/auto/ranged/HO in the first 4 spaces.  Then depending on the class ( I have alot of scouts) I go right into the basic frontal attack or non positional attacks to fill HOTBAR 1. 

HOTBAR 2 usually consists of my stuns followed by my backstabs or positional CA's.  However if you look at key 11 I put Hideaway there to be able to deaggro before I fire off Skewer. 

HOTBAR 3 then finishes off with the the basic stun/debuff and moves into the snares/debuffs.  However as you can see I left Band of Thugs and Walk the Plank because I got lazy and it just works.  Also Decitfulness sneaked in there too right next to the Runious Heart slot and Smuggle, which I only use to drag lowbie alts around dungeons. 

HOTBAR 4 is mainly all Self Buffs, Manastone and the money maker, Pick Pocket.

Hotbars 5 and 6 are over to yor right, usually consits of Master Strikes, Clobber (fluff spell) and tradeskill icons.

Ideally I could setup more macros to fire off two CA's, along with Dispatch and Double Up, and so on, but I'm lazy and sometimes Dispatch doesnt fire off when I need it to (meaning, I moved out of position, etc).  Oh, but oh [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] face next to Dispatch on HOTBAR 2 is my Raid/Group Dispatch INC macro without the /useability incase I dont connect and people start unloading without it sticking.

Message Edited by Brigandy on 11-09-2006 04:16 PM

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PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL TO MINE

[Vuz]

Sorry, top secret information!

[Seiden]

it's pretty much based on playstyle.http://www.paleghost.com/temp/hotbar.jpgbottom bar is my 1-=2nd bar up is my alt bar and the 3rd one up is my ctrl bar. I use alt for 1 and 2, and I use 1-= for like.. the first 3 skills. I used the mouse for the rest.It's a mess, but I like it.

[Vaeine]

everything is hotkeyed, really dont look at the hot bars much myself

 

[Kylan_Blade]

hey Jida, you state you have a macro for assist, pickpocket and starting auto attack ... what did you put to get auto attack to work?  i can't seem to figure out the right command.thanks!

[Jida]

/target Severed/autoattack 1/usea Pick Pocketthats exactly how i have it

[DaLurk]

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Kylan_Blade wrote:hey Jida, you state you have a macro for assist, pickpocket and starting auto attack ... what did you put to get auto attack to work?  i can't seem to figure out the right command.thanks!

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iirc, it's something like /autoattack Xwith :X = 0 = offX = 1 = contactX = 2 = ranged

[toxe14567]

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Seiden wrote:it's pretty much based on playstyle.http://www.paleghost.com/temp/hotbar.jpgbottom bar is my 1-=2nd bar up is my alt bar and the 3rd one up is my ctrl bar. I use alt for 1 and 2, and I use 1-= for like.. the first 3 skills. I used the mouse for the rest.It's a mess, but I like it.

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What's the name of the UI Mod you are using? Looks nice.

[Seiden]

profit UI reborn. at eq2interface, i would wait to see what happens after EoF though.

[SorynD]

Brigandy where did you get that skin from?

[DarkMirrax]

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SorynD wrote:
Brigandy where did you get that skin from?

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see the post above yours :smileywink:

[Crimson Dragon]

something like this, with another off to the side for poisons, potions, etc.really, it's just finding a method to your own madness... i like to group mine by usage.all my backstabs, starting with those ever-important debuffs, then the DoTs.my avoidance debuffs, attack speed debuff, damage hit... stealthed attack, aoe, ranged...stuns, snares... deaggro stuff.... master strikes. long-recast buffs which i included thugs with.buffs bar with a few macros. misc stuff including clobber, of course.i started off grouping things that i needed the most, and then just filled it in from there.really, once you get used to your own set-up it really doesn't matter how disorganized it looks.

[ag]

Mine are organized by recast timer, so the most often used are 1,2,3 least often 0,-,= in each bar.I put all my damage arts on bar one, debuffs on ALT, and the rest on CTRL. ( I don't click during combat, I just use the keyboard. )

[Crimson Dragon]

i click a lot... probably because i like to do (or be able to do) a lot of moving during combat.

[Kylan_Blade]

thanks Jida & DaLurker, will try that later when we can actually log in hehemuch appreciated!  me and an assassin in guild were trying just about everything we could think of... but i never thought of them being numbered.

[toxe14567]

While I am waiting for the patcher to complete LU29 I can as well share something here.Now my hot key setup would look like this - and it's very different from what other people use. Why? Because I prefer to press keys instead of clicking with my mouse. (oh and dont wonder, it's the German client)

I changed my hot keys from 1 to 0 to F1 to F12. (Although in the picture they are still labeled from 1 to +, but that's a bug.) Why? Because I can press the keys blindly, without looking. The F-keys are seperated into there blocks, F1-F4, F5-F8 and F9-F12, with small spaces between them. So my fingers would search for these small blanks to find the keys. That way I usually wouldn't have to look down to the keyboard and my eyes can follow the action. (My main char is a Templer, so it's vital for me to focus on the health bars instead of looking for tiny keys.)The next important thing is placing the left hand on the keyboard. My thumb would rest at the right CTRL and Shift key and my fingers would stay on the F-keys.Top bar (labeled "2" ): This is the bar with the evac and auto attack buttons. I usually use the mouse for these. (Although I remapped the "Insert" key to start / stop auto attack.)Second bar from top (labeled "4" ): Press CTRL to perform these actions. (German client, so it's written as Strg on those buttons)Third bar (labeled "3" ): Hold Shift to push these buttons. (it's labeled as "Alt", but again: bugged)Fourth bar (labeled "1" ): Just press F1 to F12.As I said I press the F-keys most of the time while holding down CTRL or Shift when needed. Only time when I use my mouse is when I have to reach the buttons on the far left side because holding the right CTRL or Shift key down with your thumb and pressing F4 to F1 with your twinky is a no-no.I suppose that this setup might sound a little odd at first but I am used to it and trust me, I can perform those attacks and spells real quick.   I use a similiar setup for my templer where my heals would be in the "center" of my hot bars, where I can reach them fast with my fingers. Works really nice and actually I dare say that I could never ever get used to clicking buttons with my mouse. (And I usually wonder how many people prefer clicking till their fingers bleed.) Works for me.

[Zagats]

how does one make a macro for all mastery strikes?

[MaestroX]

My set up is very similar to Jida, with three rows grouped by position and recast timers.  I also have a 4x3 block on the side that I use to scroll through for different situations.

One for adventure stuff that I need but I dont want to spam by accident, evac, track, group stealth, charm slots, heal and clarity potions, heart/shard etc.

One for all my "in case of death" skills to rebuff myself quickly. 

One with potions and poisons linked in my inventory that I visit before every named for + crit chance, wards and the right poison for the job.

[Crimson Dragon]

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Zagats wrote:

how does one make a macro for all mastery strikes?

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open word pad.... create a file that looks like this:useability Orc Master's Sinister Strikeuseability Skeleton Master's Sinister Strikeuseability Goblin Master's Sinister Strikeuseablilty Giant Master's Sinister Strikeput all of the abilities there, going down in a list like that. you can continue and list all of them.name the file something and save it as a .txt in your everquest II folder. let's say, for this example, you its name is "file.txt"once in game, open your macro window and use the following for your command: /do_file_commands file.txtswitch in the strikes you have, use the file name you chose, and you're all set. enjoy.:smileyhappy:

[tehh4x]

really simple setup, just stuns are the first 2, the rest go from recast time order that way i can just go down the row and lots of macros for /assist and dispatch or whatever

[Vuz]

Alright, I'll give...

 

 

Macros are assists, dispatch, heroic opportunity and then master strikes. Notice the shocker, and poisons, and lastly on the bottom right, melee/ranged crit potion and mana potion, hearts and shards and then 3 in a row for equipping the claymore book, using it and equipping the hex doll again. Enjoy.

[Xr]

Where do you get that UI bar with all your combat stats on it?

[tehh4x]

if your talking about my UI its called ProfitUI Reborn and can be found on eq2interface :0

[Azzigoth]

ThorUI cause it gives what you need and auto updates.

http://www.eq2interface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3859

This pic was me showing guildmates EQ2maps and ACT DPS counter

I highly recommend a 24" widescreen LCD

Not sure why the chat box shaders cutoff the tops, but you want to maximize your screen space.

Also mapped all 3 hotkey bars to QEFC, Shift+QEFC, Alt+QEFC + tons more to do no look CA's