Value of debuffs

Laereneth · 01-23-2006, 05:41 AM

I have an up and coming Brig and noticed that we have several debuffs. While they look nice on examination, how much do they effect the eb and flow of things? Do they make a huge difference?

Also, I've noticed that Swahies and bards (particularly Dirges) have nice debuffs as well. How do they all stack up? I know we debuff attk rate, defense, parry, Agi and such while Swashies are debuffing dmg %, the mobs offensive skills and more. Are we more of a defensive debuffer while they are an offensive debuffer? From what I'm noticing with my RL friend (Dirge) their debuffs are matching up with ours fairly closely, meaning more defensive debuffs than offensive debuffs.

Just trying to get a feel for the value of my debuffs. It's easy to see what T1 dps classes bring to the table since they are measured in their dmg output alone. But we bring a dmg multiplier to the table and it's hard to see the effect.

Thanks for your input!

Sol

AratornCalahn · 01-23-2006, 11:43 AM

sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhok now... *looks around* debuffs like attack speed etc only really make a diffrence in epic content, or high con heroic with a not so great group.The ... AHEM... other debuffs we get (*cough*mitigation*cough*resists*cough*) are important on any powerful single targets...When soloing you will want to use everything you can lol (but nothing is vital unless your soloing harder solo mobs)other than that your just a group invis jockey... yeah bet you wish you rolled an assassin now eh? (sshhh!)

DaLurk · 01-23-2006, 03:56 PM

Same old answer : search tool is your friend.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=89606.. and so, if you follow the link :http://taipanclan.guildportal.com/ContentControls/Support/InfoSectionViewer.aspx?GuildID=31341&GuildInfoSectionID=61309And so :

Message Edited by DaLurker on 01-23-200611:57 AM

hoop · 01-23-2006, 08:29 PM

holy [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if i add up all my debuffs they dont even equal half of dispatch, im a sad panda.

hoopdee

HoD · 01-27-2006, 02:38 PM

That chart is not....entirely....accurate.... :smileywink:

*cough*

Kegofbud · 01-30-2006, 09:25 PM

As Leks said, there is not another class in the game that can come close to our debuffing. We have become essential for raids and that is a great thing. We don't have to put out top raid DPS every fight because we are there to help others do it. Not that our DPS isn't very respectable. SMILEY

Some of the Tier 6 raids are ring events that are timed, because of repops or depops. In situations where you need to be dropping things as fast as possible to keep the ring events going, it is so handy to be able to drop a Dispatch every 1 minute.

01-23-2006, 11:43 AM	#2
AratornCalahn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 548	sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhok now... looks around debuffs like attack speed etc only really make a diffrence in epic content, or high con heroic with a not so great group.The ... AHEM... other debuffs we get (coughmitigationcoughresistscough) are important on any powerful single targets...When soloing you will want to use everything you can lol (but nothing is vital unless your soloing harder solo mobs)other than that your just a group invis jockey... yeah bet you wish you rolled an assassin now eh? (sshhh!) __________________ Aratorn Not 80 but bored Brigand Runnyeye "The lack of pole-dancing-elf craftable items for houses is disapointing..."

01-23-2006, 03:56 PM	#3
DaLurk General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: IYA Posts: 336	Same old answer : search tool is your friend.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=89606.. and so, if you follow the link :http://taipanclan.guildportal.com/ContentControls/Support/InfoSectionViewer.aspx?GuildID=31341&GuildInfoSectionID=61309And so : Message Edited by DaLurker on 01-23-200611:57 AM __________________ -- Leks V`Ghera - Mistmoore

01-27-2006, 02:38 PM	#5
HoD Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 21	That chart is not....entirely....accurate.... :smileywink: cough __________________ I wish the word "nerf" were only a reference to foam darts =(

01-30-2006, 09:25 PM	#6
Kegofbud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 925	As Leks said, there is not another class in the game that can come close to our debuffing. We have become essential for raids and that is a great thing. We don't have to put out top raid DPS every fight because we are there to help others do it. Not that our DPS isn't very respectable. Some of the Tier 6 raids are ring events that are timed, because of repops or depops. In situations where you need to be dropping things as fast as possible to keep the ring events going, it is so handy to be able to drop a Dispatch every 1 minute. __________________ Choatly - 90 Defiler

01-23-2006, 05:41 AM	#1
Laereneth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 223	I have an up and coming Brig and noticed that we have several debuffs. While they look nice on examination, how much do they effect the eb and flow of things? Do they make a huge difference? Also, I've noticed that Swahies and bards (particularly Dirges) have nice debuffs as well. How do they all stack up? I know we debuff attk rate, defense, parry, Agi and such while Swashies are debuffing dmg %, the mobs offensive skills and more. Are we more of a defensive debuffer while they are an offensive debuffer? From what I'm noticing with my RL friend (Dirge) their debuffs are matching up with ours fairly closely, meaning more defensive debuffs than offensive debuffs. Just trying to get a feel for the value of my debuffs. It's easy to see what T1 dps classes bring to the table since they are measured in their dmg output alone. But we bring a dmg multiplier to the table and it's hard to see the effect. Thanks for your input! Sol

01-23-2006, 08:29 PM	#4
hoop Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 71	holy [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if i add up all my debuffs they dont even equal half of dispatch, im a sad panda. hoopdee