Planes of the Overrealm

Ama · 03-11-2006, 10:24 PM

With the introduction of Kingdom of Sky we are seeing many new mysteries unfold. The droag are breeding an army of drakes and wyrms on an island in the Tenebrous Tangle. They have also secluded many of their forces within the Sanctum of the Scaleborn where at a sort of mass they speak about their lore. They talk about Harla Dar and the dragons that betrayed her.

We are also learning about the baren sky realm with the war between the Aviaks, the Holooks, and the Vultaks. This war seems to be one that has been waged for many ages before we have even dreamed of making the scene. Or for that matter the gate callers summoning their forces to rebuild the spires to the overrealm.

The final part we are seeing unfold are the droag's role in the Bonemire execavating pieces of draconic bones. With the doomwing forces being centered upon the center island with the very center point being called the Halls of Fate. Ravasects are also playing a crucial role emerging out of the den going around protecting their areas.

My question is this once all the mysteries of the Bonemire, The Barren Sky and even The Tenebrous Tangle are discovered where will we go to next? Will we see ways of breaking down barriers and to the inhabitants invading places such as the plane of Disease. Or perhaps invading the Plane of Knowledge or time?

Mary the Prophetess · 03-11-2006, 10:35 PM

It's anyone's guess.

Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere.

I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!!

Cusashorn · 03-11-2006, 11:17 PM

Where will we go next?

Innothule Swamp and the Straight of the Twelve.

... At least thats what's been hinted at from Vhalen and the other devs.

Mary the Prophetess · 03-11-2006, 11:23 PM

That suits me fine. Finish Antonica, and then move on to one of the other continents.

Ama · 03-12-2006, 12:41 AM

Mary the Prophetess wrote:
It's anyone's guess.
Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere.
I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!!

ROFL geez mary chill. It would be interesting to see Faydwer up in the air though hidden in the plane overrealm. Could base it on the lore that the beings where of such high intelligences, magic and sofistication they uprooted the land and brought it into the overrealm where ti would be safe.

Vhalen · 03-12-2006, 03:23 AM

I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen.

molinaro · 03-12-2006, 05:05 AM

Implement them all, please and thanks.

blynchehaun · 03-12-2006, 05:32 AM

What I'd love to see?Return to Kaladim.....Dunno why, it just suddenly occured to me last week that I hadn't seen any remnants of it. Nothing of the huge Statues from outside it's entrance. Nothing of the city stuff at all. The Dwarves don't really go on about it like the whiney Gnomes/Elves/Barbarians..... SMILEY

I'm guessing that where it was is currently underwater. That doesn't, of course, mean that it's flooded. SMILEY

Ama · 03-12-2006, 08:30 AM

Vhalen wrote:
I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen.

So comes the answer to the age old question "Does a person control their own fate or is it pre ordained and we just walk the path?". However as Vhalen says where we go from here has been designed but *smirks* how we choose to explore these realms are our own design. I do have to say however that even though the future maybe layed out I can't wait to see whats instore.

On a side note however Vhalen can you give some information about the state of the Island of Dread from the EverQuest Online Adventure Universe? Also a final question what is the current state of the plane of time and knowledge from the EQ1 universe?

Message Edited by Amana on 03-11-200607:33 PM

DMIstar · 03-12-2006, 10:08 AM

Vhalen wrote:
I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen.

So wheres the targishin Since he decided to dissapear so long ago .. =P

Sydares · 03-12-2006, 10:08 AM

Vhalen wrote:
I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen.

Alright, then, I'll hold you to that.

1. Kunark and Velious - What has become of the lost continents, Kunark and Velious? Have they been shattered, have they remained intact (surely not every single thing in Norrath got messed up!) and either way, do they maintain their original climates?

2. Does Norrath exist in the continuity that freed Zeb from the Plane of Time, or the one where time was turned back so this disallowed? That said, do the lands featured in Gates of Discord exist, and if so, were they shattered into a million pieces along with all races and plot holes upon them? (Please say Yes.)

3. With the Plane of Sky still in existence despite its absent Goddess, is it safe to assume that all of the other Planes still exist, as well?

4. If these have been answered in the past, forgive me.

lillin · 03-12-2006, 10:35 AM

I personally hope all the planes blew up along with anything after PoP. While PoP held som good lore for the game, the playstyle it took just turned so many people off from the game. Expansions after that seemed borderline star wars.

As far as anything about KoS. It is anybodys guess as another poster implied. I'm not a fan of all this island hoping but the lore over it seems pretty interesting so far. Seeing as how a kunark and Vel. dragon are up in PoS now kinda makes me wonder if any parts of those two expansions will show.

Far as faydwer, I hope this to be a long time coming..... sure we all wanna see what happened and such but i want time to be taken on that area to really build it to its full potential. I dont want a KoS ( look its pretty here ) feeling i want deeper lore explaing what happened to MM, kelethin, felwithe, ak'anon ect.... See if kedge keep is above ground now.. and if unrest finally got some rest and so on...

troodon311 · 03-12-2006, 11:30 AM

Sydares wrote:
2. Does Norrath exist in the continuity that freed Zeb from the Plane of Time, or the one where time was turned back so this disallowed?

Druzzil Ro turned back time in both timelines, it was this act that created the two alternate/parallel futures.

3. With the Plane of Sky still in existence despite its absent Goddess, is it safe to assume that all of the other Planes still exist, as well?

It's been said a couple of times that the Overrealm is not the Plane of Sky itself, rather it simply has parts of the Plane of Sky in it.

Ama · 03-12-2006, 07:17 PM

troodon311 wrote:
Sydares wrote:
2. Does Norrath exist in the continuity that freed Zeb from the Plane of Time, or the one where time was turned back so this disallowed?
Druzzil Ro turned back time in both timelines, it was this act that created the two alternate/parallel futures.

3. With the Plane of Sky still in existence despite its absent Goddess, is it safe to assume that all of the other Planes still exist, as well?
It's been said a couple of times that the Overrealm is not the Plane of Sky itself, rather it simply has parts of the Plane of Sky in it.

O boy if that is said to be true that the Overrealm is really just apart of the Plane of Sky then that means there is a much larger picture involved. With the Lore of the Droag stating they worship Harla Dar and we know that the all might K dragon is there are is awaiting summoning we know that the gods of norrath are planning to return.

So the true question is this that we can propose to ourselves. Why are the gods choosing to return to norrath? Is there a reason, something to offer the races, or something much more problematic on the horizon?

Sydares · 03-13-2006, 04:05 PM

troodon311 wrote:
*intelligent stuff worth reading*

Thanks. My grasp on EQ2 lore is a little shaky yet - most of what I know is living in the past!

Saroc_Luclin · 03-13-2006, 05:43 PM

Amana wrote:
troodon311 wrote:
It's been said a couple of times that the Overrealm is not the Plane of Sky itself, rather it simply has parts of the Plane of Sky in it.
O boy if that is said to be true that the Overrealm is really just apart of the Plane of Sky then that means there is a much larger picture involved. With the Lore of the Droag stating they worship Harla Dar and we know that the all might K dragon is there are is awaiting summoning we know that the gods of norrath are planning to return.
So the true question is this that we can propose to ourselves. Why are the gods choosing to return to norrath? Is there a reason, something to offer the races, or something much more problematic on the horizon?

Reread that again. SMILEY

The Overrealm has parts of the Plane of Sky in it, as in isles from the Plane of Sky have 'leaked' into the Real World and been hooked in as part of the Overrealm. Not that the Overrealm is a greater whole containing the Plane of Sky, or anything like that.Still there should be lots of interesting times ahead as people figure out the lore and legends of this expansion and try to fit it all together.

Sonorod · 03-13-2006, 08:48 PM

Amana wrote:
Mary the Prophetess wrote:
It's anyone's guess.
Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere.
I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!!
ROFL geez mary chill. It would be interesting to see Faydwer up in the air though hidden in the plane overrealm. Could base it on the lore that the beings where of such high intelligences, magic and sofistication they uprooted the land and brought it into the overrealm where ti would be safe.

You could also base it on the gnomes. They blow stuff up ya know. Silly gnomes.

Ama · 03-14-2006, 05:30 AM

Sonorod wrote:
Amana wrote:
Mary the Prophetess wrote:
It's anyone's guess.
Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere.
I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!!
ROFL geez mary chill. It would be interesting to see Faydwer up in the air though hidden in the plane overrealm. Could base it on the lore that the beings where of such high intelligences, magic and sofistication they uprooted the land and brought it into the overrealm where ti would be safe.
You could also base it on the gnomes. They blow stuff up ya know. Silly gnomes.

True, it might really *you know what* off alot of people but you could talk about how the gnomes and the High elves formed a scientific alliance. This protected Faydwere and Ak'anon by sending both into secluded area of the KoS regions since the gnomes were very intelligent as well as the powers that be of the High elves. However some could argue that the High Elves being snooty would never form an alliance with the gnomes thinking they are lower than themselves.

I still remember my sarcasting post on rather or not gnomes should invent guns. I still say that is not a good idea because it would create gnome on gnome violence and gnome on dwarf, half-life violence for height disputes. As well as gnomes being mistaken for ammunition /snicker.

03-11-2006, 10:24 PM	#1
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	With the introduction of Kingdom of Sky we are seeing many new mysteries unfold. The droag are breeding an army of drakes and wyrms on an island in the Tenebrous Tangle. They have also secluded many of their forces within the Sanctum of the Scaleborn where at a sort of mass they speak about their lore. They talk about Harla Dar and the dragons that betrayed her. We are also learning about the baren sky realm with the war between the Aviaks, the Holooks, and the Vultaks. This war seems to be one that has been waged for many ages before we have even dreamed of making the scene. Or for that matter the gate callers summoning their forces to rebuild the spires to the overrealm. The final part we are seeing unfold are the droag's role in the Bonemire execavating pieces of draconic bones. With the doomwing forces being centered upon the center island with the very center point being called the Halls of Fate. Ravasects are also playing a crucial role emerging out of the den going around protecting their areas. My question is this once all the mysteries of the Bonemire, The Barren Sky and even The Tenebrous Tangle are discovered where will we go to next? Will we see ways of breaking down barriers and to the inhabitants invading places such as the plane of Disease. Or perhaps invading the Plane of Knowledge or time? __________________

03-12-2006, 12:41 AM	#5
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Mary the Prophetess wrote: It's anyone's guess. Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere. I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!! ROFL geez mary chill. It would be interesting to see Faydwer up in the air though hidden in the plane overrealm. Could base it on the lore that the beings where of such high intelligences, magic and sofistication they uprooted the land and brought it into the overrealm where ti would be safe. __________________

03-12-2006, 03:23 AM	#6
Vhalen Developer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 254	I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen. __________________ ------ Tony "Sir Lucan" Garcia EQII Game Designer

03-12-2006, 05:32 AM	#8
blynchehaun Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada (formerly Ireland) Posts: 213	What I'd love to see?Return to Kaladim.....Dunno why, it just suddenly occured to me last week that I hadn't seen any remnants of it. Nothing of the huge Statues from outside it's entrance. Nothing of the city stuff at all. The Dwarves don't really go on about it like the whiney Gnomes/Elves/Barbarians..... I'm guessing that where it was is currently underwater. That doesn't, of course, mean that it's flooded.

03-12-2006, 08:30 AM	#9
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Vhalen wrote: I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen. So comes the answer to the age old question "Does a person control their own fate or is it pre ordained and we just walk the path?". However as Vhalen says where we go from here has been designed but smirks how we choose to explore these realms are our own design. I do have to say however that even though the future maybe layed out I can't wait to see whats instore. On a side note however Vhalen can you give some information about the state of the Island of Dread from the EverQuest Online Adventure Universe? Also a final question what is the current state of the plane of time and knowledge from the EQ1 universe? Message Edited by Amana on 03-11-200607:33 PM __________________

03-11-2006, 10:35 PM	#2
Mary the Prophetess Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	It's anyone's guess. Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere. I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!!

03-11-2006, 11:17 PM	#3
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Where will we go next? Innothule Swamp and the Straight of the Twelve. ... At least thats what's been hinted at from Vhalen and the other devs.

03-11-2006, 11:23 PM	#4
Mary the Prophetess Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	That suits me fine. Finish Antonica, and then move on to one of the other continents.

03-12-2006, 05:05 AM	#7
molinaro Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	Implement them all, please and thanks.

03-12-2006, 10:08 AM	#10
DMIstar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 787	Vhalen wrote: I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen. So wheres the targishin Since he decided to dissapear so long ago .. =P

03-12-2006, 10:08 AM	#11
Sydares Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 700	Vhalen wrote: I can offer you just about any information about any location in the EQ universe, explaining the current state of things or events that passed. This information does not mean that we are headed in that direction. I have seen the world of Norrath in this Age of Destiny, broken and battered. Places obliterated and others transformed. You now find yourself safe within the confines of Qeynos and Freeport. Where you go from here has been designed, but so have all the other wondrous regions of Norrath and beyond that may or may not ever be seen. Alright, then, I'll hold you to that. 1. Kunark and Velious - What has become of the lost continents, Kunark and Velious? Have they been shattered, have they remained intact (surely not every single thing in Norrath got messed up!) and either way, do they maintain their original climates? 2. Does Norrath exist in the continuity that freed Zeb from the Plane of Time, or the one where time was turned back so this disallowed? That said, do the lands featured in Gates of Discord exist, and if so, were they shattered into a million pieces along with all races and plot holes upon them? (Please say Yes.) 3. With the Plane of Sky still in existence despite its absent Goddess, is it safe to assume that all of the other Planes still exist, as well? 4. If these have been answered in the past, forgive me.

03-12-2006, 10:35 AM	#12
lillin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 79	I personally hope all the planes blew up along with anything after PoP. While PoP held som good lore for the game, the playstyle it took just turned so many people off from the game. Expansions after that seemed borderline star wars. As far as anything about KoS. It is anybodys guess as another poster implied. I'm not a fan of all this island hoping but the lore over it seems pretty interesting so far. Seeing as how a kunark and Vel. dragon are up in PoS now kinda makes me wonder if any parts of those two expansions will show. Far as faydwer, I hope this to be a long time coming..... sure we all wanna see what happened and such but i want time to be taken on that area to really build it to its full potential. I dont want a KoS ( look its pretty here ) feeling i want deeper lore explaing what happened to MM, kelethin, felwithe, ak'anon ect.... See if kedge keep is above ground now.. and if unrest finally got some rest and so on...

03-12-2006, 11:30 AM	#13
troodon311 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Temple of Terror, Cabilis Posts: 417	Sydares wrote: 2. Does Norrath exist in the continuity that freed Zeb from the Plane of Time, or the one where time was turned back so this disallowed? Druzzil Ro turned back time in both timelines, it was this act that created the two alternate/parallel futures. 3. With the Plane of Sky still in existence despite its absent Goddess, is it safe to assume that all of the other Planes still exist, as well? It's been said a couple of times that the Overrealm is not the Plane of Sky itself, rather it simply has parts of the Plane of Sky in it. __________________ -------- ROL GRATUL SKORCHERS! Off he rides, on his noble steed, a valiant figure, straight and tall, to wake his love with love's first kiss. And prove that "true love" conquers all! AHAHAHAHAHA!

03-12-2006, 07:17 PM	#14
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	troodon311 wrote: Sydares wrote: 2. Does Norrath exist in the continuity that freed Zeb from the Plane of Time, or the one where time was turned back so this disallowed? Druzzil Ro turned back time in both timelines, it was this act that created the two alternate/parallel futures. 3. With the Plane of Sky still in existence despite its absent Goddess, is it safe to assume that all of the other Planes still exist, as well? It's been said a couple of times that the Overrealm is not the Plane of Sky itself, rather it simply has parts of the Plane of Sky in it. O boy if that is said to be true that the Overrealm is really just apart of the Plane of Sky then that means there is a much larger picture involved. With the Lore of the Droag stating they worship Harla Dar and we know that the all might K dragon is there are is awaiting summoning we know that the gods of norrath are planning to return. So the true question is this that we can propose to ourselves. Why are the gods choosing to return to norrath? Is there a reason, something to offer the races, or something much more problematic on the horizon? __________________

03-13-2006, 04:05 PM	#15
Sydares Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 700	troodon311 wrote: intelligent stuff worth reading Thanks. My grasp on EQ2 lore is a little shaky yet - most of what I know is living in the past!

03-13-2006, 05:43 PM	#16
Saroc_Luclin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 534	Amana wrote: troodon311 wrote: It's been said a couple of times that the Overrealm is not the Plane of Sky itself, rather it simply has parts of the Plane of Sky in it. O boy if that is said to be true that the Overrealm is really just apart of the Plane of Sky then that means there is a much larger picture involved. With the Lore of the Droag stating they worship Harla Dar and we know that the all might K dragon is there are is awaiting summoning we know that the gods of norrath are planning to return. So the true question is this that we can propose to ourselves. Why are the gods choosing to return to norrath? Is there a reason, something to offer the races, or something much more problematic on the horizon? Reread that again. The Overrealm has parts of the Plane of Sky in it, as in isles from the Plane of Sky have 'leaked' into the Real World and been hooked in as part of the Overrealm. Not that the Overrealm is a greater whole containing the Plane of Sky, or anything like that.Still there should be lots of interesting times ahead as people figure out the lore and legends of this expansion and try to fit it all together.

03-13-2006, 08:48 PM	#17
Sonorod Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 139	Amana wrote: Mary the Prophetess wrote: It's anyone's guess. Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere. I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!! ROFL geez mary chill. It would be interesting to see Faydwer up in the air though hidden in the plane overrealm. Could base it on the lore that the beings where of such high intelligences, magic and sofistication they uprooted the land and brought it into the overrealm where ti would be safe. You could also base it on the gnomes. They blow stuff up ya know. Silly gnomes. __________________

03-14-2006, 05:30 AM	#18
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Sonorod wrote: Amana wrote: Mary the Prophetess wrote: It's anyone's guess. Personally, I am going to be rather upset, (to say the least), if the next several expansions continue to go off into the (ex-) planes somewhere. I WANT TO SEE THE FAYDWER!! ROFL geez mary chill. It would be interesting to see Faydwer up in the air though hidden in the plane overrealm. Could base it on the lore that the beings where of such high intelligences, magic and sofistication they uprooted the land and brought it into the overrealm where ti would be safe. You could also base it on the gnomes. They blow stuff up ya know. Silly gnomes. True, it might really you know what off alot of people but you could talk about how the gnomes and the High elves formed a scientific alliance. This protected Faydwere and Ak'anon by sending both into secluded area of the KoS regions since the gnomes were very intelligent as well as the powers that be of the High elves. However some could argue that the High Elves being snooty would never form an alliance with the gnomes thinking they are lower than themselves. I still remember my sarcasting post on rather or not gnomes should invent guns. I still say that is not a good idea because it would create gnome on gnome violence and gnome on dwarf, half-life violence for height disputes. As well as gnomes being mistaken for ammunition /snicker. __________________