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Unread 10-30-2006, 09:57 PM   #1
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I havent played the game since it was first released. Back the i had a paladin only level 30. Ive decided to give it all another go.
 
Alot of people are saying try fury. I figure the server low level areas will be very quiet....so fury my best choice to levelling alone??
 
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Unread 10-30-2006, 10:41 PM   #2
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I would say if you want to play a healer then yes, Fury is your best choice.
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Unread 10-31-2006, 06:43 AM   #3
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Depends on what fighting style you wish to play.  Fury is a healer (with DPS), which is very different to playing Paladin (Fighter class).

Which server are you on?

I play lower levels on Najena and have never had any problems finding a group.  I have a Paladin, Monk and Fury that I play at the moment, but have tried most of the classes at some stage.

You'll need to chose whichever class fighting style will suit you best.  Toe-to-Toe, kiting, DPS, pets, etc

For fast soloing from the classes I'd recommend:

Fighter  - Monk

Priest - Fury

I usually group my Fury and play as a healer, however am able to solo without any problems.  You will want to decide early on (around level 14) if you plan to solo all the way through, or if you want to become a group healer.  If you plan on being a healer you will want to choose heal spells for your Master 2's, if you plan to solo then you will want DPS and DD Master 2's.

For the fighter class the Monk is great to solo, Monks rely on avoidance rather than MIT for defence, therefore although they get hit less often than other fighters, they also take more damage if a blow lands on them.  Monks get Feign Death early in the game which is very helpful if you end up getting too much aggro, just Feign Death and wait for your health to recharge.

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Unread 10-31-2006, 06:05 PM   #4
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Although I have a lvl 70 Fury, and have soloed it for 75% of it's lvl history, my little alt Mystic seems to be easier to solo then my Fury ever was. I found that my Fury wasn't good at soloing or healing until after lv 30, and then he found his groove. My Mystic seems to be much better so far, and I'm hoping to keep it that way. 
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Unread 11-01-2006, 09:28 AM   #5
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Good point - a lot of the decent damage spells for Fury only kick in after level 30.

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Unread 11-01-2006, 11:05 AM   #6
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If anything I would have to pick Fury as one of the worst solo classes in the game. We are like wizards or warlocks without the root. Our aa root is crap. Our snare is poor to useless. Our dps is far less than mages with crowd control. Our mitigation is barely better than mages. Wardens have similar single target damage and they have a fantastic root so they would be my first choice for a solo priest.

I love Furies, I think they are one of the best all round classes but they suck at soloing compared to other classes. Who knows though EoF may change all that.

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Unread 11-01-2006, 05:34 PM   #7
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Anything I've heard, EOF will not be very benefical in that area apparently. I think they should just revamp Snare to root. I use snare all the time, it does slow the mobs down, but root like Warden is long over due for the Fury class, and for whatever reason Wardens seem to mitigate damage better as well.
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Unread 11-02-2006, 12:52 AM   #8
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Rumbler wrote:

If anything I would have to pick Fury as one of the worst solo classes in the game. We are like wizards or warlocks without the root. Our aa root is crap. Our snare is poor to useless. Our dps is far less than mages with crowd control. Our mitigation is barely better than mages. Wardens have similar single target damage and they have a fantastic root so they would be my first choice for a solo priest.

I love Furies, I think they are one of the best all round classes but they suck at soloing compared to other classes. Who knows though EoF may change all that.


I have a zerker and a wizard, both around level 40, and my fury was easier to level solo than either of them. My mitigation and avoidance have both always been around 30-35%, that's far better than my wizard so saying it's not much better is just not true.I'll admit, the interrupts can get frustrating at times, but I still find a fury quite fun for soloing.
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Unread 11-02-2006, 04:50 AM   #9
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BoberFett wrote:


Rumbler wrote:

If anything I would have to pick Fury as one of the worst solo classes in the game. We are like wizards or warlocks without the root. Our aa root is crap. Our snare is poor to useless. Our dps is far less than mages with crowd control. Our mitigation is barely better than mages. Wardens have similar single target damage and they have a fantastic root so they would be my first choice for a solo priest.

I love Furies, I think they are one of the best all round classes but they suck at soloing compared to other classes. Who knows though EoF may change all that.




I have a zerker and a wizard, both around level 40, and my fury was easier to level solo than either of them. My mitigation and avoidance have both always been around 30-35%, that's far better than my wizard so saying it's not much better is just not true.

I'll admit, the interrupts can get frustrating at times, but I still find a fury quite fun for soloing.



You're missing the fact that wizards can solo even-yellow heroics. So i highly disagree that Furies solo better than Wizards :smileytongue:

I will agree that Furies solo easy solo [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] better than Berserkers though.

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Unread 11-02-2006, 06:14 AM   #10
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Depends totally on gear and spells. Given average gear and Adept 1s on both, a fury will solo far more easily than a wizard. There's no way my wizard with his treasured gear is soloing yellow heroics. He can't solo green heroics.
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Unread 11-02-2006, 12:40 PM   #11
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Uh, wizard is one of the absolute least dependant class on gear. Are you trying to tank heroics on your wizard or something? lol
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Unread 11-02-2006, 01:24 PM   #12
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CodeKiller wrote:
Anything I've heard, EOF will not be very benefical in that area apparently. I think they should just revamp Snare to root. I use snare all the time, it does slow the mobs down, but root like Warden is long over due for the Fury class, and for whatever reason Wardens seem to mitigate damage better as well.
WIth cap'd Subjug snare isn't bad. Especially in PvP. It's just a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] to cap. I do agree furies need a root. Wardens can root melee in place, and both nuke, and melee damage them with their pets. Our DPS replies souly on the opponents resists. However, as for the wardens mitigation, it has to do with their shapeshift/animal form. At M1 their's adds almost 500 mitigation, while ours only adds sta/agi. It's easier for a fury to cap stamina, but I'd take the mitigation (as far as PvP goes) over stamina in a heart beat. Taking hits better out weighs the few extra health we get from our stamina. If our stamina was added/multiplied by the same as a bruiser, then we would not rely on a root. However, the way the game is. The root is far better then anything the Fury has at it's disposal. Our AA root relies on a 2h staff, and only lasts 7 seconds. In most PvP areas you are sure to pull external mobs with it. Where as the warden can directly and concentrate whom he wishes to root. Some say our cheatah negates their root. However, the warden's long lasting root far outweighs our 36 seconds burst of speed. I'd much rather run at 0% with my opponent in place, then have him at 40% and myself consuming all my power at 100% while being snared etc..

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Unread 11-02-2006, 03:56 PM   #13
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If you want to solo asa fury bulid yourself as a Tank... I managed to get into groups aroudn lvl 25 ish and continued grouping all the way to 70... in experiance per hour it really is the best way. Although I had to take some shortcuts with gear and wore a lot of cloth to get my stats and power up high enough. This is fine when you group but my solo life vs anythgin blue or multiple greens could be measured in seconds.Now at 70 I have gotten myself a tidy brace of soloing gear for those times and and I can see exactly what we can and what we cannot solo. but you HAVE to bulid yourself as a tank... this means loosing a few stats here and there... I think I've scraping over 400 wis in my solo gear but  40.7% avoid  39% mit the less you have to heal the less you need your power.As soloing vs other classes... fury is a weird one... we can take any solo mob down fast... not as fast as a wizzy but a lot safer (heals vs root is a tough one but against solo mobs I think a pre heal and all out attack is better than a root) and this does make good experiance an hour (thoguh not as much as if you were in a group), thoguh its not a good idea too start on heriocs.. if you get one of those iits better to run rather than face them. Sure now I can stand toe to toe with any green heriocs and if its not a healer mob/epic eventually take it down. By contract my zerker can smash green heriocs to bits and I gain more exp/hour off them than my fury does with solo mobs.If you want a priest to solo I would take a shaman (their pet is a huge addition to soloing, and you can pretty much survive a lot more while still keeping a high avoidance. If you really want a druid for their (generally) higher dps (especially in the earlier aspects of the game) I would go for warden... they get a mit buff and withotu even trying are generally 5% more mit that us and the same avoid... even after that they get a root to help take out those nasty heriocs.In fact that's the problem with all the priest classes. Its TOUGH to solo but once you get into your stride at 25 any priest can solo and reasonablly well... in the end it is all a matter of choice As it stands though the Fury is very hit and miss ... we have the worst base mitigaiton of any class forced to tank so half of our power is used on heals if you can't take it down within the first 10s you're looking at a loosing battle.Oh and say what you want about templars and inquisitors... once you get yaulp soloing becomes a LOT easier. you just struggle a lot with power in the early days but it is possible.
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Unread 11-03-2006, 04:37 PM   #14
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Goozman wrote:
Uh, wizard is one of the absolute least dependant class on gear. Are you trying to tank heroics on your wizard or something? lol

On my 40 wizard, with treasured gear, I run out of power before I can root and nuke heroics to death. What's so hard to understand? Good gear gives you more power. Are you completely stupid or just pretending for my benefit?
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Unread 11-04-2006, 02:18 AM   #15
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BoberFett wrote:


Goozman wrote:
Uh, wizard is one of the absolute least dependant class on gear. Are you trying to tank heroics on your wizard or something? lol



On my 40 wizard, with treasured gear, I run out of power before I can root and nuke heroics to death. What's so hard to understand? Good gear gives you more power. Are you completely stupid or just pretending for my benefit?


You must be pretty terrible. I was soloing heritage quests that level on both wizard and conjuror. They (mages) are the least gear dependant classes in the game.

 

Your registration date says a lot though, haha. You are calling me stupid...

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Unread 11-04-2006, 07:54 AM   #16
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Listen to Mr Internet Toughguy. It's not like there's any skill involved, these games a graphical spreadsheet. Either you can do enough damage or you can't, and I think you're lying about soloing yellow heroics in treasured gear and nothing above Adept 1. If you can prove me wrong, I'll gladly admit my error.
And what does my registration date have to do with anything, you sack of [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]?  

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Unread 11-04-2006, 10:52 AM   #17
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Goozman wrote:

BoberFett wrote:

Goozman wrote:
Uh, wizard is one of the absolute least dependant class on gear. Are you trying to tank heroics on your wizard or something? lol

On my 40 wizard, with treasured gear, I run out of power before I can root and nuke heroics to death. What's so hard to understand? Good gear gives you more power. Are you completely stupid or just pretending for my benefit?

You must be pretty terrible. I was soloing heritage quests that level on both wizard and conjuror. They (mages) are the least gear dependant classes in the game.

Your registration date says a lot though, haha. You are calling me stupid...

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What really says a lot, is the fact the migrants from other MMO's that came to EQ2 for the pvp servers, did what bluebies did in 1/100th the time, and 99% of you bluebies dont last on our servers. So ya, reg date means a lot. Played multiple MMO's, playing it a long time doesn't make you good, just means you reaaaly need to find a new hobby.
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Unread 11-04-2006, 10:53 AM   #18
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I'm not the little [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] who started throwing insults.
 
There must be some sort of skill involved because a huge majority of players suck. Ie. My wizard doing 1200+dps in groups and 950-1200dps on raids while 4/5 of the other dps class there is doing with doing 300-500.
 
Also your registration date gives you an excuse for being so ignorant and arguing a widely known fact (one even mentioned on wizard threads you posted on) that wizards can easily solo similar level heroic mobs and are among the least gear-dependant classes. But clearly you've made a case for yourself just being an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]-hole
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Unread 11-04-2006, 10:54 AM   #19
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my bad, ^^ that was me. (the upper upper post, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] you quick replying poster)All i have to add is.. lawlz look at your post count.. ooh burn?

oh and your fellow "dps" classes doing 300-500 just means they suck. That's like an NBA player stating the 4th graders he's playing with must be doing something wrong, because he's scoring more points. Way2argue. 

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Listen to Ossot , I hear he knows alot about playing with 4th graders :smileyvery-happy:
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Unread 11-04-2006, 11:42 AM   #21
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OssotSromo wrote:
my bad, ^^ that was me. (the upper upper post, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] you quick replying poster)

All i have to add is.. lawlz look at your post count.. ooh burn?

oh and your fellow "dps" classes doing 300-500 just means they suck. That's like an NBA player stating the 4th graders he's playing with must be doing something wrong, because he's scoring more points. Way2argue. 

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That's what I'm saying. Plenty of people suck. So it's not unheard of. Other guy is implying you can't suck because there is no skill involved.. well obviously there is some degree of skill. I find it baffling why so many people are so terrible at this game, because to me it is among the easiest games I've ever played. So many tanks can't hold aggro... so many healers can't keep people alive or do anything but heal... and so many dps classes just do really really bad dps. And either they don't even care or they blame everyone else.

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