Sylvan Touch GONE?

Despa · 02-09-2006, 12:53 AM

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spells&message.id=5561

The above is the original post that I posted in the spell and abilities forum. I just thought you all might like to know.

-Despaired

Lvl 60 Fury

Befallen

Poops · 02-09-2006, 03:10 AM

Hmm.. I'll have to look in my sage's book. Might be a bug.

Mystral

Despa · 02-10-2006, 03:09 AM

Seems every Sage I've talked to now has this spell missing from their Recipe books SMILEY

. Hope it gets fixed soon.

Message Edited by Despair on 02-09-200605:10 PM

Poops · 02-10-2006, 03:29 AM

Ya its not in mine. I'll bug it.

Mystral

Despa · 02-11-2006, 04:43 AM

Thanks...hopefully they fix this soon =/

Ri · 02-11-2006, 06:14 AM

Sylvan Touch is the emergency heal, correct? (not in game so can't look)

If so, I really don't think it was supposed to have a recipe anyway as orginally it wasn't upgradeable.

Dragonreal · 02-11-2006, 10:17 AM

Yes it's the single target emergency heal and no it's not really supposed to be upgradeable because all the healer's emergency heals scale with level and neither shammy nor cleric emergency heals had a spell quality.. so for some reason only druids are allwoed to upgrade their heal by levelling AND by spell quality..? No one can say they honestly think that's intended =P

Ca · 02-11-2006, 10:59 AM

Yes, it was intended because the recipe didn't exist until a few updates back. Then they specifically stated in patch notes that the recipe was being added. If they went out of their way to patch it into the game - I can't imagine they didn't intend it to be there.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stat&message.id=226&query.id=0#M226

Message Edited by Cadu on 02-10-200610:03 PM

Sunlei · 02-11-2006, 06:33 PM

I am not sure but it seems when 'they' revamped the low level spells to the new 'one click combine' method. They forgot to add back the adept 3 books for many different adept 3 spells.

Here's hoping someone notices and adds back our best quality low level spells.

Dragonreal · 02-11-2006, 07:29 PM

Sylvan Touch being able to be crafted to ad3 was a mistake; none of the healer emergency spells was meant to have a quality upgrade since they didn't ever really have a quality. What happened (this is going all the way back to the game's beta as I understand it) was these spells used to be gained at app2 quality which meant they scaled with the char's level (or didn't scale at all) and therefore had no quality upgrades. When lu13 went through the app2 tags were removed from those spells but they missed removing them from the druid one and later the druid one gained an ad3 recipe by accident. If it was really intended for ST to have a quality, then the shammy and cleric equivalents would have gained it too (and none of the healer emergency heals would scale with level), but they were correctly fixed with lu13 to not have that app2 tag anymore.

Despa · 02-12-2006, 12:40 AM

Dragonrealms wrote:
Sylvan Touch being able to be crafted to ad3 was a mistake; none of the healer emergency spells was meant to have a quality upgrade since they didn't ever really have a quality. What happened (this is going all the way back to the game's beta as I understand it) was these spells used to be gained at app2 quality which meant they scaled with the char's level (or didn't scale at all) and therefore had no quality upgrades. When lu13 went through the app2 tags were removed from those spells but they missed removing them from the druid one and later the druid one gained an ad3 recipe by accident. If it was really intended for ST to have a quality, then the shammy and cleric equivalents would have gained it too (and none of the healer emergency heals would scale with level), but they were correctly fixed with lu13 to not have that app2 tag anymore.

That's not the point. The point is that others were able to upgrade to ad3 that are Fury's...and now some of us cannot do it. It needs to be fixed in some form so there is equal opportunity for upgrading the spell if it was there at one time...or it needs to be changed back to its non upgradable form once again.

Poops · 02-12-2006, 02:52 AM

Agreed. But the best you can do is ask ppl to petition and bug it. We all know MoDs don't read the fury boards. We're the red-headed stepchildren, remember? /grin

Mystral

Dragonreal · 02-12-2006, 03:12 AM

Idc if they put it back to non-upgradeable and the same numbers it would be if it were that way.. did I go out and get it made for both my fury and my warden when I heard about the recipe being added? yup I sure did but I didn't expect it to realyl stay like that /shrug honestly I think it SHOULD be changed back as it's imbalancing in regards to the clrs/shammys since theirs is not upgradeable and do we really need to give the templars another reason to moan about druids? =P

02-10-2006, 03:09 AM	#3
Despa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Seems every Sage I've talked to now has this spell missing from their Recipe books . Hope it gets fixed soon. Message Edited by Despair on 02-09-200605:10 PM

02-11-2006, 06:33 PM	#9
Sunlei Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 518	I am not sure but it seems when 'they' revamped the low level spells to the new 'one click combine' method. They forgot to add back the adept 3 books for many different adept 3 spells. Here's hoping someone notices and adds back our best quality low level spells. __________________ singapore training, always wear your flack jacket and helmet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNNbdQnKcw training housecall! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Q2wSAKIr4

02-12-2006, 12:40 AM	#11
Despa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Dragonrealms wrote: Sylvan Touch being able to be crafted to ad3 was a mistake; none of the healer emergency spells was meant to have a quality upgrade since they didn't ever really have a quality. What happened (this is going all the way back to the game's beta as I understand it) was these spells used to be gained at app2 quality which meant they scaled with the char's level (or didn't scale at all) and therefore had no quality upgrades. When lu13 went through the app2 tags were removed from those spells but they missed removing them from the druid one and later the druid one gained an ad3 recipe by accident. If it was really intended for ST to have a quality, then the shammy and cleric equivalents would have gained it too (and none of the healer emergency heals would scale with level), but they were correctly fixed with lu13 to not have that app2 tag anymore. That's not the point. The point is that others were able to upgrade to ad3 that are Fury's...and now some of us cannot do it. It needs to be fixed in some form so there is equal opportunity for upgrading the spell if it was there at one time...or it needs to be changed back to its non upgradable form once again.

02-09-2006, 12:53 AM	#1
Despa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spells&message.id=5561 The above is the original post that I posted in the spell and abilities forum. I just thought you all might like to know. -Despaired Lvl 60 Fury Befallen

02-09-2006, 03:10 AM	#2
Poops Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 116	Hmm.. I'll have to look in my sage's book. Might be a bug. Mystral

02-10-2006, 03:29 AM	#4
Poops Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 116	Ya its not in mine. I'll bug it. Mystral

02-11-2006, 04:43 AM	#5
Despa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Thanks...hopefully they fix this soon =/

02-11-2006, 06:14 AM	#6
Ri General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 154	Sylvan Touch is the emergency heal, correct? (not in game so can't look) If so, I really don't think it was supposed to have a recipe anyway as orginally it wasn't upgradeable.

02-11-2006, 10:17 AM	#7
Dragonreal General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,554	Yes it's the single target emergency heal and no it's not really supposed to be upgradeable because all the healer's emergency heals scale with level and neither shammy nor cleric emergency heals had a spell quality.. so for some reason only druids are allwoed to upgrade their heal by levelling AND by spell quality..? No one can say they honestly think that's intended =P

02-11-2006, 10:59 AM	#8
Ca Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 54	Yes, it was intended because the recipe didn't exist until a few updates back. Then they specifically stated in patch notes that the recipe was being added. If they went out of their way to patch it into the game - I can't imagine they didn't intend it to be there. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stat&message.id=226&query.id=0#M226 Message Edited by Cadu on 02-10-200610:03 PM

02-11-2006, 07:29 PM	#10
Dragonreal General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,554	Sylvan Touch being able to be crafted to ad3 was a mistake; none of the healer emergency spells was meant to have a quality upgrade since they didn't ever really have a quality. What happened (this is going all the way back to the game's beta as I understand it) was these spells used to be gained at app2 quality which meant they scaled with the char's level (or didn't scale at all) and therefore had no quality upgrades. When lu13 went through the app2 tags were removed from those spells but they missed removing them from the druid one and later the druid one gained an ad3 recipe by accident. If it was really intended for ST to have a quality, then the shammy and cleric equivalents would have gained it too (and none of the healer emergency heals would scale with level), but they were correctly fixed with lu13 to not have that app2 tag anymore.

02-12-2006, 02:52 AM	#12
Poops Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 116	Agreed. But the best you can do is ask ppl to petition and bug it. We all know MoDs don't read the fury boards. We're the red-headed stepchildren, remember? /grin Mystral

02-12-2006, 03:12 AM	#13
Dragonreal General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,554	Idc if they put it back to non-upgradeable and the same numbers it would be if it were that way.. did I go out and get it made for both my fury and my warden when I heard about the recipe being added? yup I sure did but I didn't expect it to realyl stay like that /shrug honestly I think it SHOULD be changed back as it's imbalancing in regards to the clrs/shammys since theirs is not upgradeable and do we really need to give the templars another reason to moan about druids? =P