Lets talk armor

JF · 11-17-2004, 01:10 AM

Ok, Im a 16 cleric right now, wearing armor mostly lite armor from quests. I know I could buy better lite armor but Im going to skip that and go right to heavy at Templar. Now here is my question. When starting to buy the heavy armor, is it best to buy from NPC vendors, crafters, or just wait for quest rewards. I just dont want to waste cash on say NPC armor if there is better right under my nose.

Any suggestions are helpful!

Urguw · 11-17-2004, 04:13 AM

IMO:

If you're in a guild, buy from your guild's crafter @ cost.

If you're not a in guild, save your money. Wait for free armor from quests and drops.

Cisk · 11-17-2004, 09:11 PM

Go ahead and buy it, 20+ you make so much money it barely even fazes you to buy full Vanguard. You won't be able to use the drops until mid 20s for most plate and do you really want to wait that long to have that giant leap in your AC? I definitely did not.

JF · 11-17-2004, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, sounds wise.

Kyliegi · 11-17-2004, 11:56 PM

JFiz,

My best recommendation is to do the quest armor quests. They are very nice rewards for your level (you can start wearing them right around - some plate requires you to be 25+), and they aren't too difficult. I will say *SPOILER* - that the Archeologist Quested glvoes you receive in Stormhold are better than the actually quested gloves - which are the third tier quest armor. The funny thing about it is your third tier armor is completed by killing monsters in Stormhold.

Ironically enough.

Kylie

DeythCombi · 11-18-2004, 01:13 AM

I woulad advise not spending anything on armor. At 20 you begin your armor quests and that will coincide with your switch to heavy armor. If you get any heavy armor drops you can save those and use them at 20 until you get the quest replacements but don't spend a copper because it won't make enough of a difference.

Dini · 11-18-2004, 04:07 AM

As a halfling will I have strength/weight issues wearing plate?

Kabil · 11-18-2004, 10:24 PM

Nope , your strength wont come into play when switching to the heavy armor. I played up until early 30's in beta and was wearing full Carbonite at 20 and started getting some of the quest pieces. I had no problem equipping it.As for spending money on armor.. I agree with this idea at 20 if you want to from friends who are crafters or guildies at cost.. but dont spend alot on it for various reasons... You can start your questing for armor at 20. The armor is better stats than Carbonite and Vanguard. Hold out if you can but if you have the extra money dont stress it and go ahead and spend it on a full set.

FoxeyeVaeltaja · 11-19-2004, 10:33 PM

Don't suppose anyone has any screenshots of the different armor choices? I've heard folks mention Carbonite, Vanguard, and Quested...do these look different?

Celestian_ · 11-20-2004, 04:52 AM

I got a full suit, minus bracer, of carbonite from the Firemyst instanced zone. When you complete the Grimrot scythe quest and go in one of the merchants sells heavy armor a level 20 templar can wear. I knew it would be a while before I could get my quests completed and was sick of looking like every other cleric =)

The cost was about 2gp for the suit.

Here is [Removed for Content] of my High Elf wearing it.

http://www.greycouncil.us/modules.php?op=modload&name=coppermine&file=displayimage&pos=-1489

Here is the player link.

http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=206527203

I am still needing a serious shield upgrade but everythign I find I cannot use (asside from ash shield). Do we EVER get to use anything besides buckler? I did a quest for a nice shield with wisdom and turns out its ROUND SHIELD skill. Do we ever get that?

Message Edited by Celestian_GC on 11-19-2004 05:55 PM

Cleric · 11-20-2004, 12:49 PM

What are these armor quests you can start doing at 20? Where are they initiated?

Kyrakath · 11-20-2004, 08:45 PM

They start In Qeynos Harbor. Talk to a guy named Ian. Easy quests so far, ya just have to find peeps willing to kill [Removed for Content] mobs as most of em are green. Ive been making groups with peeps in their high teens that dont seem to mind. The third part takes you into Stormhold so it might be a little more interesting, as i havent done that part yet. But you get a really nice set of gloves and a bracer for the first two quests and its heavy armor. Dont waste your money on buying armor thats for sure. Why do we need it anyway especially when it has no stats. These Ian quests are really worhtwhile so far and the stats are better than anything ive seen for sale or has dropped except for the few named that drop great stuff down deep past the atrium in Stormhold. But again its stuff that fills up the slots you prolly wont get from Ian like necklaces and waist items. Do the Ian quests. Screw buying a set of armor.

Rhoulicas, Dark Elf Templar of Unrest

Zabumt · 11-22-2004, 11:55 AM

In my opinion, waste your money. You'll be happy when you don't die to that undead, gnoll or giant in TS because you managed to catch aggro for a few hits. Find someone with access to Firemyst (non-wind) or complete the access quest yourself. Get two people to join you (3-6 required to zone in) go to the dwarf in the encampment to the left and buy wearable plate at half the cost of what you would find in Qeynos. I can't stress how plate armor is important to both a Templar and any Tank class.

Kulrea · 11-22-2004, 02:33 PM

anybody happen to know what "Ian's" surname is to start the armour quests in QH ?

cheers in advance

Lamprey_02 · 11-22-2004, 05:30 PM

Personally, I just bought a suit of vanguard in Qeynos Harbor. It wasn't too expensive, bp at 42 silver and other pieces around 35 each, I got everything except helm/bracers at lvl 20. My only reservation is the vanguard helm, it looks really weird - wondering if the carbonite plate helm instead is worth it for looks. But would this helm look weird with vnaguard plate, or what? Guess I'll try, only 20 silver to go SMILEY

Btw, just getting this suit of plate raised my ac WAY up, it is definitely a worthwhile investment. Buy your plate or quest it (or first buy it, then quest the better stuff at your leisure and without rushing it a few levels later, once you've gottem some levels/other gear) but have it as soon as possible, it makes your life 10x easier.

Kyliegi · 11-22-2004, 06:47 PM

If you don't like the helm look, type /showhood off.

For those interested, the armor quests (for good races) take place in the following locations:

Part I: Antonica (gloves)

Part II: Antonica, Blackburrow (bracer)

Part III: Stormhold (boots)

Part IV: Crypt of Betrayal (sleeves)

Part V: Thundering Steppes (leggings)

Part VI: Thundering Steppes (breastplate)

If anyone has any questions on these armor quests, feel free to ask - I've completed them all.

Kylie

JF · 11-22-2004, 08:27 PM

I was just actually going to ask that exact question hehe, where do I find the quests. Happen to know the NPC names to ask?

Kyliegi · 11-22-2004, 09:08 PM

All armor quests are initiated through Ian something in Qeynos Harbor. He's in the northern part of the map near some tents and near the bank. Hope that helps.

Tinkletoy · 11-22-2004, 09:19 PM

Do you have to do the quests in order?

Cleric · 11-22-2004, 10:36 PM

Tinkletoy wrote:

Do you have to do the quests in order?

Yes.

JF · 11-22-2004, 10:39 PM

Awsome thanks, to Q Harbor I go! (after work anyway heh)

ge · 11-23-2004, 12:41 AM

do you have to be a certain lvl to start these q's?

Kyliegi · 11-23-2004, 12:47 AM

Level20

Whitemane · 11-23-2004, 03:46 AM

My Advice is unless you have money to Burn is to not waste your money on armour as it's easy enought to either to a) get quest pieces for what you need and b) I have yet to find anything better than the lvl 20 Quest armour that I can wear at lvl 26.

Also as a cavaet I reccomend that people also do not let thier defense skill fall to far behind. It makes a pretty big difference.

Whitemane, 26 Templar

JF · 11-23-2004, 09:40 AM

Where are gnoll tormentors?

Kyrakath · 11-23-2004, 08:04 PM

Gnoll tormentors have to be spawned. If you go to BB just ne or so of the entrance facing antonica youll find a camp full of saberteeth [Removed for Content]. You have to clear the area around the tent they surround. Eventually a group of tormentors with sabertooth eldar friends will spawn near the tent. Only need 6 right if i remember? Good luck.

Btw ya cant wear your boots till 21, your sleeves till 22, your leggings till 23, and your BP (I heard) till 24. Oh and um DONT WASTE money on PLATEMAIL. KK? thx.

Rhoulicas, 23 templar of Unrest.

Etheri · 11-23-2004, 10:11 PM

You need 4 Tormentors for the first armor quest, so you have to complete the cycle twice.

JF · 11-23-2004, 10:56 PM

Cool thanks, thats good to know. I finished the Tormentors last night and now just have a couple of the Knights to go. Thats awsome to know the thing about one peice per lvl so I don't waste time trying to cram it all in right away hehe.

FoxeyeVaeltaja · 11-23-2004, 11:20 PM

Still no screenshots of our class armor? SMILEY

I've seen carbonite now (thanks!) and steel vanguard I believe (shiny silver stuff), but I"m not sure if our class armor looks like the vanguard or something else.

chrome · 11-24-2004, 08:41 AM

I have most of the peices of this armor, and I bought a plate chest peice that looks the same as the final bit; it looks like steel plate. Its kinda gold in colour, with chain silver bum. Its very nice I think. My toon look sexy, and professional. I show up and people just give me respect! Ho! Even if I am cheesing it right now SMILEY

I am on part 6 of the quest, and its in TS as well. The last part of it looks like I have to kill a high level named mob. Ouch! Won't spoil it for you.BTW, if you're looking for settlers, they are in the dead river bed near the docks. They spawn slowly, and there is not enough of them, but that was the only place I could find them. You can solo them easily at level 22.The funny thing is, you can't wear the pants til 23, the arms til 22. The chest peice is level 24. But just DOING the quest should take you to at least level 23 from level 20 I think SMILEY

11-17-2004, 04:13 AM	#2
Urguw Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90	IMO: If you're in a guild, buy from your guild's crafter @ cost. If you're not a in guild, save your money. Wait for free armor from quests and drops. __________________ ========================== Klaatu Barada Nicto Not with a bang, but a whimper.

11-17-2004, 09:11 PM	#3
Cisk Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	Go ahead and buy it, 20+ you make so much money it barely even fazes you to buy full Vanguard. You won't be able to use the drops until mid 20s for most plate and do you really want to wait that long to have that giant leap in your AC? I definitely did not. __________________ ~Ciskal Fizzlethorp~ Gnome Templar ~Neriak~

11-18-2004, 01:13 AM	#6
DeythCombi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137	I woulad advise not spending anything on armor. At 20 you begin your armor quests and that will coincide with your switch to heavy armor. If you get any heavy armor drops you can save those and use them at 20 until you get the quest replacements but don't spend a copper because it won't make enough of a difference. __________________

11-18-2004, 04:07 AM	#7
Dini Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	As a halfling will I have strength/weight issues wearing plate? __________________ Martouf :: 24th level Monk of <Mistwalkers> "I refer to my hands, feet and body as the tools of the trade. The hands and feet must be sharpened and improved daily to be efficient." -- Bruce Lee

11-18-2004, 10:24 PM	#8
Kabil Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Forge of the Ages Posts: 186	Nope , your strength wont come into play when switching to the heavy armor. I played up until early 30's in beta and was wearing full Carbonite at 20 and started getting some of the quest pieces. I had no problem equipping it.As for spending money on armor.. I agree with this idea at 20 if you want to from friends who are crafters or guildies at cost.. but dont spend alot on it for various reasons... You can start your questing for armor at 20. The armor is better stats than Carbonite and Vanguard. Hold out if you can but if you have the extra money dont stress it and go ahead and spend it on a full set. __________________

11-17-2004, 01:10 AM	#1
JF Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Ok, Im a 16 cleric right now, wearing armor mostly lite armor from quests. I know I could buy better lite armor but Im going to skip that and go right to heavy at Templar. Now here is my question. When starting to buy the heavy armor, is it best to buy from NPC vendors, crafters, or just wait for quest rewards. I just dont want to waste cash on say NPC armor if there is better right under my nose. Any suggestions are helpful!

11-17-2004, 10:31 PM	#4
JF Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Thanks for the suggestions, sounds wise.

11-17-2004, 11:56 PM	#5
Kyliegi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	JFiz, My best recommendation is to do the quest armor quests. They are very nice rewards for your level (you can start wearing them right around - some plate requires you to be 25+), and they aren't too difficult. I will say SPOILER - that the Archeologist Quested glvoes you receive in Stormhold are better than the actually quested gloves - which are the third tier quest armor. The funny thing about it is your third tier armor is completed by killing monsters in Stormhold. Ironically enough. Kylie

11-19-2004, 10:33 PM	#9
FoxeyeVaeltaja Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 98	Don't suppose anyone has any screenshots of the different armor choices? I've heard folks mention Carbonite, Vanguard, and Quested...do these look different? __________________ Art ~ Comic

11-20-2004, 04:52 AM	#10
Celestian_ General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 326	I got a full suit, minus bracer, of carbonite from the Firemyst instanced zone. When you complete the Grimrot scythe quest and go in one of the merchants sells heavy armor a level 20 templar can wear. I knew it would be a while before I could get my quests completed and was sick of looking like every other cleric =) The cost was about 2gp for the suit. Here is [Removed for Content] of my High Elf wearing it. http://www.greycouncil.us/modules.php?op=modload&name=coppermine&file=displayimage&pos=-1489 Here is the player link. http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=206527203 I am still needing a serious shield upgrade but everythign I find I cannot use (asside from ash shield). Do we EVER get to use anything besides buckler? I did a quest for a nice shield with wisdom and turns out its ROUND SHIELD skill. Do we ever get that? Message Edited by Celestian_GC on 11-19-2004 05:55 PM Message Edited by Celestian_GC on 11-19-2004 05:55 PM __________________

11-20-2004, 12:49 PM	#11
Cleric Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17	What are these armor quests you can start doing at 20? Where are they initiated?

11-20-2004, 08:45 PM	#12
Kyrakath Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19	They start In Qeynos Harbor. Talk to a guy named Ian. Easy quests so far, ya just have to find peeps willing to kill [Removed for Content] mobs as most of em are green. Ive been making groups with peeps in their high teens that dont seem to mind. The third part takes you into Stormhold so it might be a little more interesting, as i havent done that part yet. But you get a really nice set of gloves and a bracer for the first two quests and its heavy armor. Dont waste your money on buying armor thats for sure. Why do we need it anyway especially when it has no stats. These Ian quests are really worhtwhile so far and the stats are better than anything ive seen for sale or has dropped except for the few named that drop great stuff down deep past the atrium in Stormhold. But again its stuff that fills up the slots you prolly wont get from Ian like necklaces and waist items. Do the Ian quests. Screw buying a set of armor. Rhoulicas, Dark Elf Templar of Unrest __________________ _____________________ quit your freekin WHINING!!

11-22-2004, 11:55 AM	#13
Zabumt Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 489	In my opinion, waste your money. You'll be happy when you don't die to that undead, gnoll or giant in TS because you managed to catch aggro for a few hits. Find someone with access to Firemyst (non-wind) or complete the access quest yourself. Get two people to join you (3-6 required to zone in) go to the dwarf in the encampment to the left and buy wearable plate at half the cost of what you would find in Qeynos. I can't stress how plate armor is important to both a Templar and any Tank class. __________________ Halthar 70 Dwarf Templar - Unrest Zabumtik 60 Gnome Wizard - Unrest

11-22-2004, 02:33 PM	#14
Kulrea Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	anybody happen to know what "Ian's" surname is to start the armour quests in QH ? cheers in advance

11-22-2004, 05:30 PM	#15
Lamprey_02 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 353	Personally, I just bought a suit of vanguard in Qeynos Harbor. It wasn't too expensive, bp at 42 silver and other pieces around 35 each, I got everything except helm/bracers at lvl 20. My only reservation is the vanguard helm, it looks really weird - wondering if the carbonite plate helm instead is worth it for looks. But would this helm look weird with vnaguard plate, or what? Guess I'll try, only 20 silver to go Btw, just getting this suit of plate raised my ac WAY up, it is definitely a worthwhile investment. Buy your plate or quest it (or first buy it, then quest the better stuff at your leisure and without rushing it a few levels later, once you've gottem some levels/other gear) but have it as soon as possible, it makes your life 10x easier.

11-22-2004, 06:47 PM	#16
Kyliegi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	If you don't like the helm look, type /showhood off. For those interested, the armor quests (for good races) take place in the following locations: Part I: Antonica (gloves) Part II: Antonica, Blackburrow (bracer) Part III: Stormhold (boots) Part IV: Crypt of Betrayal (sleeves) Part V: Thundering Steppes (leggings) Part VI: Thundering Steppes (breastplate) If anyone has any questions on these armor quests, feel free to ask - I've completed them all. Kylie

11-22-2004, 08:27 PM	#17
JF Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	I was just actually going to ask that exact question hehe, where do I find the quests. Happen to know the NPC names to ask?

11-22-2004, 09:08 PM	#18
Kyliegi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	All armor quests are initiated through Ian something in Qeynos Harbor. He's in the northern part of the map near some tents and near the bank. Hope that helps.

11-22-2004, 09:19 PM	#19
Tinkletoy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 22	Do you have to do the quests in order?

11-22-2004, 10:36 PM	#20
Cleric Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17	Tinkletoy wrote: Do you have to do the quests in order? Yes.

11-22-2004, 10:39 PM	#21
JF Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Awsome thanks, to Q Harbor I go! (after work anyway heh)

11-23-2004, 12:41 AM	#22
ge Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	do you have to be a certain lvl to start these q's?

11-23-2004, 12:47 AM	#23
Kyliegi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	Level20

11-23-2004, 03:46 AM	#24
Whitemane Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 195	My Advice is unless you have money to Burn is to not waste your money on armour as it's easy enought to either to a) get quest pieces for what you need and b) I have yet to find anything better than the lvl 20 Quest armour that I can wear at lvl 26. Also as a cavaet I reccomend that people also do not let thier defense skill fall to far behind. It makes a pretty big difference. Whitemane, 26 Templar

11-23-2004, 09:40 AM	#25
JF Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Where are gnoll tormentors?

11-23-2004, 08:04 PM	#26
Kyrakath Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19	Gnoll tormentors have to be spawned. If you go to BB just ne or so of the entrance facing antonica youll find a camp full of saberteeth [Removed for Content]. You have to clear the area around the tent they surround. Eventually a group of tormentors with sabertooth eldar friends will spawn near the tent. Only need 6 right if i remember? Good luck. Btw ya cant wear your boots till 21, your sleeves till 22, your leggings till 23, and your BP (I heard) till 24. Oh and um DONT WASTE money on PLATEMAIL. KK? thx. Rhoulicas, 23 templar of Unrest. __________________ _____________________ quit your freekin WHINING!!

11-23-2004, 10:11 PM	#27
Etheri Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	You need 4 Tormentors for the first armor quest, so you have to complete the cycle twice.

11-23-2004, 10:56 PM	#28
JF Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Cool thanks, thats good to know. I finished the Tormentors last night and now just have a couple of the Knights to go. Thats awsome to know the thing about one peice per lvl so I don't waste time trying to cram it all in right away hehe.

11-23-2004, 11:20 PM	#29
FoxeyeVaeltaja Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 98	Still no screenshots of our class armor? I've seen carbonite now (thanks!) and steel vanguard I believe (shiny silver stuff), but I"m not sure if our class armor looks like the vanguard or something else. __________________ Art ~ Comic

11-24-2004, 08:41 AM	#30
chrome Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 20	I have most of the peices of this armor, and I bought a plate chest peice that looks the same as the final bit; it looks like steel plate. Its kinda gold in colour, with chain silver bum. Its very nice I think. My toon look sexy, and professional. I show up and people just give me respect! Ho! Even if I am cheesing it right now I am on part 6 of the quest, and its in TS as well. The last part of it looks like I have to kill a high level named mob. Ouch! Won't spoil it for you.BTW, if you're looking for settlers, they are in the dead river bed near the docks. They spawn slowly, and there is not enough of them, but that was the only place I could find them. You can solo them easily at level 22.The funny thing is, you can't wear the pants til 23, the arms til 22. The chest peice is level 24. But just DOING the quest should take you to at least level 23 from level 20 I think __________________