Heroic Singles---Success or Failure????

sunmagic · 03-01-2006, 11:35 PM

Hey all. I was wondering what the luck has been fighting ^ to ^^^ when you guys solo. I typically don;tfight anyone above a single ^ that's close to my lvl. But there are times where I'm running and I get caughtby a ^^^ that's either at my lvl or one above or below. How much success has anyone had fighting againstthese guys. I can beat fairly well one that's 7-10 below which I'd assume is common. But I'd like to knowif anyone has had success when you solo and happen to run into them. I know I get killed fairly quicklyafter my pet gets killed. Anyway, would like to know others expereinces so I can maybe get better at my char.Thanks!

Deila · 03-02-2006, 12:18 AM

I don't claim to be a Super Necromancer. I'm a pretty good one. When I get jumped by an even or near-even con ^^^ heroic, my plan is clear.

Pet protects me on the first hit, and takes aggro. He then becomes the Sacrifice™ while I keep on going. Don't miss a step, just get out of there. SMILEY

With groups of blue or white ^ mobs... yeah, still usually too much to take, but that can be situational. For me at least. Blue ^ encounters can be doable if I plan and initiate the attack, rooting one to keep it out of the fray while pet takes the other two, fearing, being ready even to resummon my pet during the fight if needed, etc. Usually though, if it's something like you describe where you're running along and get caught by surprise, they have the advantage. See above with the Sacrifice™ strategy. SMILEY

Tharangus · 03-02-2006, 12:23 AM

Oh... I was working on undead creature cataloging in Silent Sity last night and got jumped by one of those ^^^ globs in the aquaduct. I thought... "hmm... it's blue... I might just win this one." So I proceeded as usual... stun/dumbfires/heal/lifetap/etc.... pet was in the red but ahead of the mob when another one of those buggers joined in.

Should have just FD'ed right there and let the pet die, which is what I usually do when jumped by a ^^^. When all is clear I slip on my invis necklace (it does come in handy, even though it hurts you) and get to a safe spot to apply my invis spell. Then recast pet and pretend that it was all part of my master plan... MWAHAHAHA!!

But in yet another case I was jumped by a ^^ heroic named (Creature of the Black Pond) and managed to come out on top.

Message Edited by Tharangus on 03-01-200602:25 PM

ltankhsd · 03-02-2006, 01:26 AM

At level 53 I can take the ^^ heroics in the Sinking Sands. Having a mastery spell for them helps a lot but I can do it without that.

sunmagic · 03-02-2006, 03:13 AM

Deila wrote:
I don't claim to be a Super Necromancer. I'm a pretty good one. When I get jumped by an even or near-even con ^^^ heroic, my plan is clear.
Pet protects me on the first hit, and takes aggro. He then becomes the Sacrifice™ while I keep on going. Don't miss a step, just get out of there.
With groups of blue or white ^ mobs... yeah, still usually too much to take, but that can be situational. For me at least. Blue ^ encounters can be doable if I plan and initiate the attack, rooting one to keep it out of the fray while pet takes the other two, fearing, being ready even to resummon my pet during the fight if needed, etc. Usually though, if it's something like you describe where you're running along and get caught by surprise, they have the advantage. See above with the Sacrifice™ strategy.

Oh yeah...They definately have the advantage. Ran into some bees last night in ferrott. The first one stunded me and pet fought. Then a second one came by and stuned me and beat on me. Man, I was dead very quickly with that. Didn't see them behind the trees.My bad but hey, it was fun dying...lol

BloodyDragon · 03-02-2006, 03:39 AM

On triple ups, the only way I can take those with my necro is if they are the low green ones. I usually don't try to do the triple ups though so I haven't had a chance to perfect taking on blue ones. They just take too much time, but I heard it can be done. When I do catch agro I usually just let the pet take agro, yell (so Lich doesn't kill me and I can use my carpet), and then run! When I'm far enough away and if my pet isn't dead, I will either tell the pet to back off or cancel it.

I can usually take on the named, heroic,single up goblins / harpies with dbl down friends in PoF without a problem. Even when they are 2-3 levels above me. I can even take on two dbl up heroics 1-2 levels above me. Pretty much anything that cons yellow and is not triple up and comes in groups of 3 or less.

My necro is my main alt so everything I have on her is at adept 3 or higher. And all the gear I have on her has very high INT and other stats (mostly legendary and fabled gear). When my necro was 52 (now 55), I had better stats than most mages I saw at 60. I also have Yeddadhs Caucaus (or however you spell it), which helps. But I have only had to use it once or twice when I pulled a group not realizing the heroic was sitting in the tent and I was unprepared to go all out,root,stun, etc.

Traigus · 03-02-2006, 10:32 AM

It can be done with a "root/nuke" strategy like wizards. it is a bit harder to do, because we don't have a really solid root, and 99% of our damage is dots (which have a chance to break roots on every tick.)I've done blues (with lots of outdoor space)... never managed a white, but i'm mostly an adept I guy. Takes forever.Gotta turn off your pet defends and then suck mana out of it with your drain a lot.Not really worth the effort, but it can be done.

Za · 03-02-2006, 10:41 AM

I can easily solo yellow ^ and ^^ mobs. For ^^ groups, root 1 and tank pet the other... OR ..... I can do it easier, but i won't share that... hehe

But yeah I can solo blue ^^^ mobs, and white if I have a charmed pet to throw in on top of my normal posse. I'm not quite 65 yet, but I expect good things from that spell.

osirisgo · 03-04-2006, 12:53 AM

Most my lvl 63 necro has been able to take i s a lvl 65 ^^^ in sanctum of scaleborn....i got ambushed by one and thought hell why not... swarm pet the mob with hounds / stench / skelly snake / an cape of creation clicky.. dots / debuffs / heals / more dmg lifetaps / heals / staff heal from yedads cadacus/ stuns heres and there when up and when it was all over i was at 30% and pet was at about 40 % very hard fight but with loads of dps on it the debuffs and stuns it too bad... all my spells are adept 3 or master so that always helps.. but its possible to do... root and shoot method is always good but much better with a necro and wiz or better root class than necro :/

sunmagic · 03-04-2006, 12:57 AM

osirisgod1 wrote:
Most my lvl 63 necro has been able to take i s a lvl 65 ^^^ in sanctum of scaleborn....i got ambushed by one and thought hell why not... swarm pet the mob with hounds / stench / skelly snake / an cape of creation clicky.. dots / debuffs / heals / more dmg lifetaps / heals / staff heal from yedads cadacus/ stuns heres and there when up and when it was all over i was at 30% and pet was at about 40 % very hard fight but with loads of dps on it the debuffs and stuns it too bad... all my spells are adept 3 or master so that always helps.. but its possible to do... root and shoot method is always good but much better with a necro and wiz or better root class than necro :/

Cool...thanks for the info. Do you use defensive stace or offensive for pet. I always seem to die when I get into thoseencounters. I just now tend to run but sometimes I just say like you did...What the hell fight and see what happens. Butthen I'm only a lvl 42 so I don't have all the best spells and pets. All my pets are Adept 1. The adept 3's are tooexpensive for my blood. lol

Za · 03-05-2006, 12:54 AM

sunmagic wrote:
osirisgod1 wrote:
Most my lvl 63 necro has been able to take i s a lvl 65 ^^^ in sanctum of scaleborn....i got ambushed by one and thought hell why not... swarm pet the mob with hounds / stench / skelly snake / an cape of creation clicky.. dots / debuffs / heals / more dmg lifetaps / heals / staff heal from yedads cadacus/ stuns heres and there when up and when it was all over i was at 30% and pet was at about 40 % very hard fight but with loads of dps on it the debuffs and stuns it too bad... all my spells are adept 3 or master so that always helps.. but its possible to do... root and shoot method is always good but much better with a necro and wiz or better root class than necro :/
Cool...thanks for the info. Do you use defensive stace or offensive for pet. I always seem to die when I get into thoseencounters. I just now tend to run but sometimes I just say like you did...What the hell fight and see what happens. Butthen I'm only a lvl 42 so I don't have all the best spells and pets. All my pets are Adept 1. The adept 3's are tooexpensive for my blood. lol

Never ever use anything but your tank in def stance when soloing anything higher than yourself or with ^ arrows.I'll use my mage or scout in offensive if i'm soloing blue yard trash but thats it.When you need a tank to cover your [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], the difference between offinsive and def stance on your pet can be your entire HP pool! I did a check last night, my pet went from 12000ish to 8000ish hpts, which ain't good for soloing white ^^ or worse mobs.

Usild · 03-05-2006, 01:21 AM

Usually I can solo a green with ^^^, blue with ^^, or white with ^ theoretically. I say theoretically because it depends on the mob and on how well I'm paying attention (if I don't notice for a few seconds that I'm being attacked, I might not have a chance).

And just as the previous poster said...definitely tank pet for anything higher than you with ^ or more and on blues ^^ or more in my experience (only lvl 47 right now)

Wyrmtong · 03-05-2006, 04:30 AM

I've been hunting lvl 49-50 ^^^ giants with my 55 necro. I find that the 49's go down without any danger but I have to be on my game for the 50's. Tank pet in def. start the heal over time transfer send him him abomidable mark, drawing of souls, stun, run around sick in ghastly pet and dogs, renew heal over time and then keep doing damge while lifetapping and healing with exchange life. I find that if I do it right I end up with about 20% mana if I remember correctly, and I dont have to use my staff to heal the pet. The debuffs and stun are important to reduce the damge mob dishes out as our heals arnt the best.

Oh dont forget Swarm of Bats either as its defense debuff component really helps out our swarm pets.

Tamlorn Wyrmshadow 55 Necromaner, Heroes

osirisgo · 03-07-2006, 01:04 AM

i always use the def stance on tank pet never offensive... the migitaion life and more aggro the pet hold the better.. if u try to use the offensive stance most of the time if your start to chain casting on heroics they decide they want to kill you and will get you in about 3 hits if your lucky.. if you solo at youi must have tank pet and def stance adept 3 / master makes a world of difrence when u solo stuff i can go in with my master tank pet and def stance and ripe aggro off most tanks and tank about the same if they are a few lvls lower.. my pet fully buffed has about 8 k life at 63 im not trying to brag or anything but the adpe one to master / adept 3 if about a good 50 % more aggro and life with a set up like that ^^ are no problem

Ekuthh · 03-07-2006, 03:47 AM

I have, with a smidgeon of luck and modified kiting skills, been able to take down blue /// mobs. It all comes down to if I can root/stun him long enough to get my tank back up and how much kiting room I have. The imbued wands are very nice for this.

Definately not a reliable thing, though.

Zaathaan · 03-07-2006, 01:10 PM

Well...success SMILEY

Soloing at 63 level 61^^^ heroic mobs ( blue con ) on kos, the salamanders on vicious breeding grounds, Tenebrous tangle. Just debuff it a lot, stun it with constrict ( usually 2 times per fight...long fight ). Previously I used to solo some duo of yellow con ^^ mobs in Sanctum Scaleborn : just root one, and pet will easily tank the second. Refresh the root to have time to heal the pet to max hit points when the first mob is down, then kill the other. Use dooming darkness in case that the root breaks to have time to refresh ( those mobs can one shot you, so stay in range )

I have adept 3 tank pet, defensive stance, constrict..well evrything I use. My heals are both in master 1, but I suppose it should work too with adept 3 quality.

SPAM_is_bad · 03-07-2006, 07:59 PM

Also depends on how much you have available a the time. I can solo ^^^ white about 90% of the time if I have my full aresenal available.

If I can I'll get a charmed pet in place and send him in first. He is my sacrifice.

Then cast tank pet, sick em, buff em,

Then stun,

Debuff

Dot like hell

Dumbfire pets - really helps if I have servile soul up too....

Heal pet - again helps if I have soothe servant up too - along with transfer life, necro healing, then my Yadda staff, etc...

Stun DoT - etc....

Usually the charmed pet drops about 30% of it's HP before biting the dust - and then the tank pet it just rocking.

I always have fear or confusing babble handy in case I get aggro - and if an add comes along - FD!

Rinse - wash - repeat.....

Odium · 03-08-2006, 01:50 AM

Typically I avoid ^^^ heroics - they crumple my robe. But, I have been able to solo ^^^ Heroic 47 at LVL 50 and a 48^^^ heroic at 50 - but it was a giant so I had and extra 1300 damage to throw at it. (master strike) and it was damned close - probably luck. In both cases my Tank pet died, I had to root, fear (just before or at tank death) and recast the tank. If I managed to recast the tank i was golden. In some cases, even my little Rats provided enough hold on aggro to let me get a root on. Point of note though, any ^^^ heroic that casts and it was quite a bit harder. Green ^^^ casters are hard (particularly those sirens in SS) Any non caster blue ^^^ though and I have a fair chance. All my spells are Adpet III (except the root and fear) and my INT is fairly high. You get a big boost in damage at 50 with Lich and Siphon Life, so that might make a difference too.

Odium, lvl 51 Necromancer & Frankie the Tank Pet

molinaro · 03-09-2006, 08:35 PM

I do alot of soloing against ^^^ heroics with my necro. I'm at 55 now, and I tend to stick with stuff that just turned green by 1 or 2 levels. Against 50^^^ some mobs are much easier than others. The golem/giant thingies outside sol eye are pretty easy compared to the 50^^^ giants in SS. I get about 0.75% xp for a 50^^^ and recast my pet at the end of the fight.. since it's usualy very nearly dead.

Against a 49^^^ the fights are not as much trouble, and I get a bout 0.5% xp per kill. (with vitality of course)

I have all my spells at adept 3, use the defence stance at m2 on my tank pet.

The sequence of events generaly goes like this against a 49^^^:

- send pet in to attack

- cast Convulse for a 6.7 sec stun and then wait til the mob is down to 80% health, while not casting anything else. My pet will drop to anywhere from 70% or down to 50% during that time. I don't heal during this time.

- Cast dogs and Stench of the grave dumbfire pets.

- Cast Death's coil, Torrential Plague, Dooming Darkness and Death Rot dots.

- Now my pet is usualy down to about 20% to 30% health and I cast my 1st Exchange Life to heal the pet, followed by a Siphon Life to heal me back up.

- Convulse should now just become available again and I cast it.

- The mob is typically at about 20% or less health now, and so is my pet. For the last few seconds of the fight remaining I'll cast another pair of Exchange Life/Siphon Life, with maybe a Death Rot in between.

And then the mob dies.

With a 50^^^, the only difference is that I cast usualy 2 more pairs of Exchange Life / Siphon Life at the end to finish.

I NEVER EVER pull agro off my pet. I finish the fight usualy with about 85% of my mana and full health. 30 seconds later I've got my pet recast and rebuffed and I'm good to go for another kill.

I've tried many variations on this setup, including:

- Casting the Heal over time here and there

- Using the Abominal Mark and Drawing of Souls debuffs

I find that bringing those into play just makes it likely that I will pull agro near the end of the fight. Sure that can be avoided by easing off on the dps, however the amount you have to ease off just leaves you with a longer fight than if you don't bother to debuff and stay hard on the dps instead.

I've even tried to use Abominal Mark as my pull spell, having the pet pull the mob off me, and then follow into the above pattern, but again it means I'm having to manage aggro near the end of the fight instead of following the above spell list, casting them as fast as they can be cast in the above order.

03-02-2006, 12:18 AM	#2
Deila Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 443	I don't claim to be a Super Necromancer. I'm a pretty good one. When I get jumped by an even or near-even con ^^^ heroic, my plan is clear. Pet protects me on the first hit, and takes aggro. He then becomes the Sacrifice™ while I keep on going. Don't miss a step, just get out of there. With groups of blue or white ^ mobs... yeah, still usually too much to take, but that can be situational. For me at least. Blue ^ encounters can be doable if I plan and initiate the attack, rooting one to keep it out of the fray while pet takes the other two, fearing, being ready even to resummon my pet during the fight if needed, etc. Usually though, if it's something like you describe where you're running along and get caught by surprise, they have the advantage. See above with the Sacrifice™ strategy. __________________

03-02-2006, 03:13 AM	#5
sunmagic Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 73	Deila wrote: I don't claim to be a Super Necromancer. I'm a pretty good one. When I get jumped by an even or near-even con ^^^ heroic, my plan is clear. Pet protects me on the first hit, and takes aggro. He then becomes the Sacrifice™ while I keep on going. Don't miss a step, just get out of there. With groups of blue or white ^ mobs... yeah, still usually too much to take, but that can be situational. For me at least. Blue ^ encounters can be doable if I plan and initiate the attack, rooting one to keep it out of the fray while pet takes the other two, fearing, being ready even to resummon my pet during the fight if needed, etc. Usually though, if it's something like you describe where you're running along and get caught by surprise, they have the advantage. See above with the Sacrifice™ strategy. Oh yeah...They definately have the advantage. Ran into some bees last night in ferrott. The first one stunded me and pet fought. Then a second one came by and stuned me and beat on me. Man, I was dead very quickly with that. Didn't see them behind the trees.My bad but hey, it was fun dying...lol

03-02-2006, 10:32 AM	#7
Traigus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 84	It can be done with a "root/nuke" strategy like wizards. it is a bit harder to do, because we don't have a really solid root, and 99% of our damage is dots (which have a chance to break roots on every tick.)I've done blues (with lots of outdoor space)... never managed a white, but i'm mostly an adept I guy. Takes forever.Gotta turn off your pet defends and then suck mana out of it with your drain a lot.Not really worth the effort, but it can be done. __________________ 80 BRU 80 NEC, 80 SK, 80 DEF, 74 WDN, 67 BRG, assorted 30s.

03-04-2006, 12:57 AM	#10
sunmagic Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 73	osirisgod1 wrote: Most my lvl 63 necro has been able to take i s a lvl 65 ^^^ in sanctum of scaleborn....i got ambushed by one and thought hell why not... swarm pet the mob with hounds / stench / skelly snake / an cape of creation clicky.. dots / debuffs / heals / more dmg lifetaps / heals / staff heal from yedads cadacus/ stuns heres and there when up and when it was all over i was at 30% and pet was at about 40 % very hard fight but with loads of dps on it the debuffs and stuns it too bad... all my spells are adept 3 or master so that always helps.. but its possible to do... root and shoot method is always good but much better with a necro and wiz or better root class than necro :/ Cool...thanks for the info. Do you use defensive stace or offensive for pet. I always seem to die when I get into thoseencounters. I just now tend to run but sometimes I just say like you did...What the hell fight and see what happens. Butthen I'm only a lvl 42 so I don't have all the best spells and pets. All my pets are Adept 1. The adept 3's are tooexpensive for my blood. lol

03-05-2006, 12:54 AM	#11
Za General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,084	sunmagic wrote: osirisgod1 wrote: Most my lvl 63 necro has been able to take i s a lvl 65 ^^^ in sanctum of scaleborn....i got ambushed by one and thought hell why not... swarm pet the mob with hounds / stench / skelly snake / an cape of creation clicky.. dots / debuffs / heals / more dmg lifetaps / heals / staff heal from yedads cadacus/ stuns heres and there when up and when it was all over i was at 30% and pet was at about 40 % very hard fight but with loads of dps on it the debuffs and stuns it too bad... all my spells are adept 3 or master so that always helps.. but its possible to do... root and shoot method is always good but much better with a necro and wiz or better root class than necro :/ Cool...thanks for the info. Do you use defensive stace or offensive for pet. I always seem to die when I get into thoseencounters. I just now tend to run but sometimes I just say like you did...What the hell fight and see what happens. Butthen I'm only a lvl 42 so I don't have all the best spells and pets. All my pets are Adept 1. The adept 3's are tooexpensive for my blood. lol Never ever use anything but your tank in def stance when soloing anything higher than yourself or with ^ arrows.I'll use my mage or scout in offensive if i'm soloing blue yard trash but thats it.When you need a tank to cover your [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], the difference between offinsive and def stance on your pet can be your entire HP pool! I did a check last night, my pet went from 12000ish to 8000ish hpts, which ain't good for soloing white ^^ or worse mobs.

03-01-2006, 11:35 PM	#1
sunmagic Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 73	Hey all. I was wondering what the luck has been fighting ^ to ^^^ when you guys solo. I typically don;tfight anyone above a single ^ that's close to my lvl. But there are times where I'm running and I get caughtby a ^^^ that's either at my lvl or one above or below. How much success has anyone had fighting againstthese guys. I can beat fairly well one that's 7-10 below which I'd assume is common. But I'd like to knowif anyone has had success when you solo and happen to run into them. I know I get killed fairly quicklyafter my pet gets killed. Anyway, would like to know others expereinces so I can maybe get better at my char.Thanks!

03-02-2006, 12:23 AM	#3
Tharangus Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 410	Oh... I was working on undead creature cataloging in Silent Sity last night and got jumped by one of those ^^^ globs in the aquaduct. I thought... "hmm... it's blue... I might just win this one." So I proceeded as usual... stun/dumbfires/heal/lifetap/etc.... pet was in the red but ahead of the mob when another one of those buggers joined in. Should have just FD'ed right there and let the pet die, which is what I usually do when jumped by a ^^^. When all is clear I slip on my invis necklace (it does come in handy, even though it hurts you) and get to a safe spot to apply my invis spell. Then recast pet and pretend that it was all part of my master plan... MWAHAHAHA!! But in yet another case I was jumped by a ^^ heroic named (Creature of the Black Pond) and managed to come out on top. Message Edited by Tharangus on 03-01-200602:25 PM

03-02-2006, 01:26 AM	#4
ltankhsd Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	At level 53 I can take the ^^ heroics in the Sinking Sands. Having a mastery spell for them helps a lot but I can do it without that.

03-02-2006, 03:39 AM	#6
BloodyDragon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45	On triple ups, the only way I can take those with my necro is if they are the low green ones. I usually don't try to do the triple ups though so I haven't had a chance to perfect taking on blue ones. They just take too much time, but I heard it can be done. When I do catch agro I usually just let the pet take agro, yell (so Lich doesn't kill me and I can use my carpet), and then run! When I'm far enough away and if my pet isn't dead, I will either tell the pet to back off or cancel it. I can usually take on the named, heroic,single up goblins / harpies with dbl down friends in PoF without a problem. Even when they are 2-3 levels above me. I can even take on two dbl up heroics 1-2 levels above me. Pretty much anything that cons yellow and is not triple up and comes in groups of 3 or less. My necro is my main alt so everything I have on her is at adept 3 or higher. And all the gear I have on her has very high INT and other stats (mostly legendary and fabled gear). When my necro was 52 (now 55), I had better stats than most mages I saw at 60. I also have Yeddadhs Caucaus (or however you spell it), which helps. But I have only had to use it once or twice when I pulled a group not realizing the heroic was sitting in the tent and I was unprepared to go all out,root,stun, etc.

03-02-2006, 10:41 AM	#8
Za General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,084	I can easily solo yellow ^ and ^^ mobs. For ^^ groups, root 1 and tank pet the other... OR ..... I can do it easier, but i won't share that... hehe But yeah I can solo blue ^^^ mobs, and white if I have a charmed pet to throw in on top of my normal posse. I'm not quite 65 yet, but I expect good things from that spell.

03-04-2006, 12:53 AM	#9
osirisgo Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	Most my lvl 63 necro has been able to take i s a lvl 65 ^^^ in sanctum of scaleborn....i got ambushed by one and thought hell why not... swarm pet the mob with hounds / stench / skelly snake / an cape of creation clicky.. dots / debuffs / heals / more dmg lifetaps / heals / staff heal from yedads cadacus/ stuns heres and there when up and when it was all over i was at 30% and pet was at about 40 % very hard fight but with loads of dps on it the debuffs and stuns it too bad... all my spells are adept 3 or master so that always helps.. but its possible to do... root and shoot method is always good but much better with a necro and wiz or better root class than necro :/

03-05-2006, 01:21 AM	#12
Usild Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 31	Usually I can solo a green with ^^^, blue with ^^, or white with ^ theoretically. I say theoretically because it depends on the mob and on how well I'm paying attention (if I don't notice for a few seconds that I'm being attacked, I might not have a chance). And just as the previous poster said...definitely tank pet for anything higher than you with ^ or more and on blues ^^ or more in my experience (only lvl 47 right now) __________________ Usildor Necro of Oasis Wooby illusionist of Oasis

03-05-2006, 04:30 AM	#13
Wyrmtong Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	I've been hunting lvl 49-50 ^^^ giants with my 55 necro. I find that the 49's go down without any danger but I have to be on my game for the 50's. Tank pet in def. start the heal over time transfer send him him abomidable mark, drawing of souls, stun, run around sick in ghastly pet and dogs, renew heal over time and then keep doing damge while lifetapping and healing with exchange life. I find that if I do it right I end up with about 20% mana if I remember correctly, and I dont have to use my staff to heal the pet. The debuffs and stun are important to reduce the damge mob dishes out as our heals arnt the best. Oh dont forget Swarm of Bats either as its defense debuff component really helps out our swarm pets. Tamlorn Wyrmshadow 55 Necromaner, Heroes

03-07-2006, 01:04 AM	#14
osirisgo Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	i always use the def stance on tank pet never offensive... the migitaion life and more aggro the pet hold the better.. if u try to use the offensive stance most of the time if your start to chain casting on heroics they decide they want to kill you and will get you in about 3 hits if your lucky.. if you solo at youi must have tank pet and def stance adept 3 / master makes a world of difrence when u solo stuff i can go in with my master tank pet and def stance and ripe aggro off most tanks and tank about the same if they are a few lvls lower.. my pet fully buffed has about 8 k life at 63 im not trying to brag or anything but the adpe one to master / adept 3 if about a good 50 % more aggro and life with a set up like that ^^ are no problem

03-07-2006, 03:47 AM	#15
Ekuthh Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Aridzona, USA Posts: 711	I have, with a smidgeon of luck and modified kiting skills, been able to take down blue /// mobs. It all comes down to if I can root/stun him long enough to get my tank back up and how much kiting room I have. The imbued wands are very nice for this. Definately not a reliable thing, though.

03-07-2006, 01:10 PM	#16
Zaathaan Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39	Well...success Soloing at 63 level 61^^^ heroic mobs ( blue con ) on kos, the salamanders on vicious breeding grounds, Tenebrous tangle. Just debuff it a lot, stun it with constrict ( usually 2 times per fight...long fight ). Previously I used to solo some duo of yellow con ^^ mobs in Sanctum Scaleborn : just root one, and pet will easily tank the second. Refresh the root to have time to heal the pet to max hit points when the first mob is down, then kill the other. Use dooming darkness in case that the root breaks to have time to refresh ( those mobs can one shot you, so stay in range ) I have adept 3 tank pet, defensive stance, constrict..well evrything I use. My heals are both in master 1, but I suppose it should work too with adept 3 quality.

03-07-2006, 07:59 PM	#17
SPAM_is_bad Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	Also depends on how much you have available a the time. I can solo ^^^ white about 90% of the time if I have my full aresenal available. If I can I'll get a charmed pet in place and send him in first. He is my sacrifice. Then cast tank pet, sick em, buff em, Then stun, Debuff Dot like hell Dumbfire pets - really helps if I have servile soul up too.... Heal pet - again helps if I have soothe servant up too - along with transfer life, necro healing, then my Yadda staff, etc... Stun DoT - etc.... Usually the charmed pet drops about 30% of it's HP before biting the dust - and then the tank pet it just rocking. I always have fear or confusing babble handy in case I get aggro - and if an add comes along - FD! Rinse - wash - repeat..... __________________ Peatree - Gnome Necro on Toxx....er I mean Guk "Just because I'm looking up at you does not make you worthy of my admiration...."

03-08-2006, 01:50 AM	#18
Odium Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 79	Typically I avoid ^^^ heroics - they crumple my robe. But, I have been able to solo ^^^ Heroic 47 at LVL 50 and a 48^^^ heroic at 50 - but it was a giant so I had and extra 1300 damage to throw at it. (master strike) and it was damned close - probably luck. In both cases my Tank pet died, I had to root, fear (just before or at tank death) and recast the tank. If I managed to recast the tank i was golden. In some cases, even my little Rats provided enough hold on aggro to let me get a root on. Point of note though, any ^^^ heroic that casts and it was quite a bit harder. Green ^^^ casters are hard (particularly those sirens in SS) Any non caster blue ^^^ though and I have a fair chance. All my spells are Adpet III (except the root and fear) and my INT is fairly high. You get a big boost in damage at 50 with Lich and Siphon Life, so that might make a difference too. Odium, lvl 51 Necromancer & Frankie the Tank Pet __________________ 80 Necromancer Guild leader www.Lotseekers.net "Aliquando et insanire iucundum est!" - It is sometimes pleasant even to act like a madman

03-09-2006, 08:35 PM	#19
molinaro Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	I do alot of soloing against ^^^ heroics with my necro. I'm at 55 now, and I tend to stick with stuff that just turned green by 1 or 2 levels. Against 50^^^ some mobs are much easier than others. The golem/giant thingies outside sol eye are pretty easy compared to the 50^^^ giants in SS. I get about 0.75% xp for a 50^^^ and recast my pet at the end of the fight.. since it's usualy very nearly dead. Against a 49^^^ the fights are not as much trouble, and I get a bout 0.5% xp per kill. (with vitality of course) I have all my spells at adept 3, use the defence stance at m2 on my tank pet. The sequence of events generaly goes like this against a 49^^^: - send pet in to attack - cast Convulse for a 6.7 sec stun and then wait til the mob is down to 80% health, while not casting anything else. My pet will drop to anywhere from 70% or down to 50% during that time. I don't heal during this time. - Cast dogs and Stench of the grave dumbfire pets. - Cast Death's coil, Torrential Plague, Dooming Darkness and Death Rot dots. - Now my pet is usualy down to about 20% to 30% health and I cast my 1st Exchange Life to heal the pet, followed by a Siphon Life to heal me back up. - Convulse should now just become available again and I cast it. - The mob is typically at about 20% or less health now, and so is my pet. For the last few seconds of the fight remaining I'll cast another pair of Exchange Life/Siphon Life, with maybe a Death Rot in between. And then the mob dies. With a 50^^^, the only difference is that I cast usualy 2 more pairs of Exchange Life / Siphon Life at the end to finish. I NEVER EVER pull agro off my pet. I finish the fight usualy with about 85% of my mana and full health. 30 seconds later I've got my pet recast and rebuffed and I'm good to go for another kill. I've tried many variations on this setup, including: - Casting the Heal over time here and there - Using the Abominal Mark and Drawing of Souls debuffs I find that bringing those into play just makes it likely that I will pull agro near the end of the fight. Sure that can be avoided by easing off on the dps, however the amount you have to ease off just leaves you with a longer fight than if you don't bother to debuff and stay hard on the dps instead. I've even tried to use Abominal Mark as my pull spell, having the pet pull the mob off me, and then follow into the above pattern, but again it means I'm having to manage aggro near the end of the fight instead of following the above spell list, casting them as fast as they can be cast in the above order.