Aggravate Master 2 vs. Exasperate Adept 3

Fascin · 03-21-2006, 04:09 PM

Hey Folks,

As one of probably many Conjurors who selected Aggravate as their Master 2 upgrade, I was wondering how it stacks up stat-wise with the level 67 Exasperate at the Adept 3 level.

Has anyone compared stats or done any analysis on this?

Appreciate any feedback!

Magu · 03-21-2006, 05:22 PM

eq2idb.comExasperate (Adept III):Increases INT of target by 184Increases Attack Speed of target by 49%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 30Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 28

Not in game so I can't post Aggravate (Master II) stats, but you can use this to compare.

Ganlu · 03-21-2006, 06:57 PM

It looks like it's actually worse... I know that the attack speed boost from Aggravate was 51%, and this one actually lowers defense and such more than Aggravate. Oh well, saves us a moonstone at least!

itsmelen · 03-21-2006, 07:57 PM

I made the mistake of upgrading Exasperate to adept III.The INT is 13 points better.The defense decreases are harsher.The haste buff is less.The melee/casting buffs are slightly better.All in all not worth what I paid.

Re · 03-22-2006, 04:55 AM

Aggravate Master II

Increases INT of target by 171Increases Attack Speed of target by 51%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 24Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 26

Exasperate Master I (which I can't scribe yet)

Increases INT of target by 210Increases Attack Speed of target by 56%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 30Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 32

Strangely enough, I actually have 2 Master Is of this, so I'm not sure if it is common or I am lucky.

Jeradim · 03-22-2006, 05:24 AM

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the way the penalties on our pet stances scale as being a little whacked?

For the defensive stance, as we get upgrades the % DPS decrease gets bigger meaning the pet will do less and DPS as we upgrade the spell. For the offensive stance, the penalty to defense keeps getting bigger as we upgrade. As the lvl cap continues to raise and we continue to go through the tiers and get our upgrades to these lines of spells, eventually the DPS of the pet when in defensive will be zero and ditto the defense of the pet when in offensive stance.

I realize that there has to be something to balance the increase in the other stats, but those can keep increasing to infinity as the game scales up. For the stats that decrease though (DPS and defense), there has to be some kind of lower limit doesn't there? I mean it can only go so far, our pets can't have negative DPS....can they? :smileyindifferent:

Anyway, thx for the heads up...I guess I'll be using the Master II Aggravate for a while now :smileywink:

Fascin · 03-22-2006, 06:19 AM

Thanks for all the input! I think that unless I can acquire a Master 1 for Exasperate, I think I will stick with Aggravate!

Good stuff... and thanks!

Daeloq · 03-22-2006, 07:41 AM

Fascin wrote:
Thanks for all the input! I think that unless I can acquire a Master 1 for Exasperate, I think I will stick with Aggravate!
Good stuff... and thanks!

Got mine, and get to scribe it tonight when I ding 67! Go Go Master mage pet + master offensive stance!!

/brag off

monrofayy · 03-22-2006, 12:49 PM

i was lucky anuff to get master 1 ,,

Exasperate Master I

Increases INT of target by 210Increases Attack Speed of target by 56%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 30Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 32

big improvement ,, air pet connects more offen ,, tank slightly better depends on mob,, fire pet i noticed added 89-110 more dmg on lower dmgspells it casts soloing pet chewing thought reg mobs and some heroics like a kid in the candy store..

Taishi · 03-23-2006, 12:43 PM

A way around those penalties is to go the wisdom aa line and not have to concern yourself as much with the said penalties in each offensive and defensive stances. Adept IV of the minions uproar provides 37 to slash crush and pierce as well as 42 to disruption and focus. At app IV the defensive buff gives 6.9 to defense and I'm sure it is far beyond that at Adept IV. If you don't want to sacrifice the AA's to do it then don't complain lol. The option is always there but it's a choice you'll have to make.

03-21-2006, 06:57 PM	#3
Ganlu General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 315	It looks like it's actually worse... I know that the attack speed boost from Aggravate was 51%, and this one actually lowers defense and such more than Aggravate. Oh well, saves us a moonstone at least! __________________

03-22-2006, 04:55 AM	#5
Re General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 35	Aggravate Master II Increases INT of target by 171Increases Attack Speed of target by 51%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 24Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 26 Exasperate Master I (which I can't scribe yet) Increases INT of target by 210Increases Attack Speed of target by 56%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 30Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 32 Strangely enough, I actually have 2 Master Is of this, so I'm not sure if it is common or I am lucky. __________________ Dayshara - Ranger80/Sage80 - Butcherblock

03-22-2006, 05:24 AM	#6
Jeradim Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 130	Is it just me, or does anyone else see the way the penalties on our pet stances scale as being a little whacked? For the defensive stance, as we get upgrades the % DPS decrease gets bigger meaning the pet will do less and DPS as we upgrade the spell. For the offensive stance, the penalty to defense keeps getting bigger as we upgrade. As the lvl cap continues to raise and we continue to go through the tiers and get our upgrades to these lines of spells, eventually the DPS of the pet when in defensive will be zero and ditto the defense of the pet when in offensive stance. I realize that there has to be something to balance the increase in the other stats, but those can keep increasing to infinity as the game scales up. For the stats that decrease though (DPS and defense), there has to be some kind of lower limit doesn't there? I mean it can only go so far, our pets can't have negative DPS....can they? :smileyindifferent: Anyway, thx for the heads up...I guess I'll be using the Master II Aggravate for a while now :smileywink: __________________ Jeradim - 63 Conjuror/70 Alchemist Aldurr - 63 Templar/70 Woodworker Pawldo - 70 Fury/70 Tailor Sarith - 70 Monk/70 Carpenter Belldin - 35 Illusionist/70 Jeweler

03-22-2006, 07:41 AM	#8
Daeloq Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	Fascin wrote: Thanks for all the input! I think that unless I can acquire a Master 1 for Exasperate, I think I will stick with Aggravate! Good stuff... and thanks! Got mine, and get to scribe it tonight when I ding 67! Go Go Master mage pet + master offensive stance!! /brag off

03-22-2006, 12:49 PM	#9
monrofayy Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 224	i was lucky anuff to get master 1 ,, Exasperate Master I Increases INT of target by 210Increases Attack Speed of target by 56%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 30Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 32 big improvement ,, air pet connects more offen ,, tank slightly better depends on mob,, fire pet i noticed added 89-110 more dmg on lower dmgspells it casts soloing pet chewing thought reg mobs and some heroics like a kid in the candy store..

03-21-2006, 04:09 PM	#1
Fascin Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 26	Hey Folks, As one of probably many Conjurors who selected Aggravate as their Master 2 upgrade, I was wondering how it stacks up stat-wise with the level 67 Exasperate at the Adept 3 level. Has anyone compared stats or done any analysis on this? Appreciate any feedback!

03-21-2006, 05:22 PM	#2
Magu Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,332	eq2idb.comExasperate (Adept III):Increases INT of target by 184Increases Attack Speed of target by 49%Decreases Defense and Parry of target by 30Increases Slashing, Piercing and Crushing of target by 28 Not in game so I can't post Aggravate (Master II) stats, but you can use this to compare.

03-21-2006, 07:57 PM	#4
itsmelen Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 67	I made the mistake of upgrading Exasperate to adept III.The INT is 13 points better.The defense decreases are harsher.The haste buff is less.The melee/casting buffs are slightly better.All in all not worth what I paid.

03-22-2006, 06:19 AM	#7
Fascin Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 26	Thanks for all the input! I think that unless I can acquire a Master 1 for Exasperate, I think I will stick with Aggravate! Good stuff... and thanks!

03-23-2006, 12:43 PM	#10
Taishi General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19	A way around those penalties is to go the wisdom aa line and not have to concern yourself as much with the said penalties in each offensive and defensive stances. Adept IV of the minions uproar provides 37 to slash crush and pierce as well as 42 to disruption and focus. At app IV the defensive buff gives 6.9 to defense and I'm sure it is far beyond that at Adept IV. If you don't want to sacrifice the AA's to do it then don't complain lol. The option is always there but it's a choice you'll have to make. __________________ 70 Conjuror 63 Jeweler Socius of The Last Word Innobone Server 54 Guardian