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deepfree · 05-16-2006, 09:36 PM

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=54475

Please go to this link and read it. Makes you think twice about LU24.

Lord Montague · 05-16-2006, 09:45 PM

To give a glimmer of hope here, Moorguard did confirm that mezzes breaking when recasting a mezz and it being resisted was not intended, and a change will be made so that mezzes will only break on hostile actions that result in damage.

More info here: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=54528#M54528

I think the changes clearly have quite a bit more tweaking before they go live, especially considering the vocal feeback being received.

deepfree · 05-16-2006, 10:13 PM

Even if they fixed a lot of the stuff before they go live, it still has made people jokingly but not really say "so you are the reason LU24 is going to to nerf us". Just let us be able to particpate in raids and epics and use core CC spells. If you want to put timers on it fine but dont try to over fix something...

Roloc · 05-16-2006, 11:33 PM

People never understood what we did anyways so the fact they will hate/missunderstand us for this doesn't shock or bother me.What I will be [Removed for Content] about is if we can only mez something once, if that doesn't get fixed then.. well.. I will save the dramatics for if and when it happens.

deepfree · 05-17-2006, 12:05 AM

Doesn't bother me about others classes not know what we do but SOE is making it seem like they are fixing enchanters but in essence they are nerfing CC all together with all of the restriction. When all I wanted is to feel like I was contributing more to the raid using some CC spell even If it was only one CC spell. They are changing more then half of our spell from our Nukes to our CC. This is a Enchanter overhaul!!!

Viohlen · 05-17-2006, 08:34 PM

If every class has a form of CC chanters are useless.

Reducing other classes abilities to CC makes me feel more useful. Sucks that it changes the play of other classes, but had to be done.

deepfree · 05-17-2006, 09:06 PM

Yeah, but the Devs are nerfing our CC and our nukes at the same time. They think our CC is to strong. All we wanted was to feel more useful in raids thats it. If you reduce our CC the others that have a little CC will have to have theirs eliminate or reduced also. Its not a fix to anyone just a CC reduce across the board. I am just tired of LU24 being called a enchanter fix when its really a CC nerf...

Barobra · 05-17-2006, 09:44 PM

Well, techinically a fix could be a nerf. :smileyhappy:

ootpek · 05-23-2006, 05:32 PM

Really what happened is we asked for the DEV's to look at our stun and mez abilities on epics. Then while doing this looked at how our abilities worked on Heroics to see how they would affect Epics. During this investigation they realized that the average heroic actually spends so much time stunned and stiffled and knocked down that that Heroic mob was basically doing NOTHING to an average group. This included our stuns and other classes stuns. Realizing this they decided to look at all the classes stun and stifle abilities and what we get is a Control Revamp. It just so happens that at the same time they are doing the Control Revamp we get the ability to affect epics. So people see us getting something good and everyone else (Including us) getting a bunch of stuns nerfed and of course put 2 and 2 together which equals Blame Enchanters! Amusing really.

silentpsycho · 05-24-2006, 12:30 AM

Viohlence wrote:

If every class has a form of CC chanters are useless.

Reducing other classes abilities to CC makes me feel more useful. Sucks that it changes the play of other classes, but had to be done.

Sorry, but *our* abilities to CC are being nerfed as well. Read up on LU24.

05-16-2006, 11:33 PM	#4
Roloc General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 46	People never understood what we did anyways so the fact they will hate/missunderstand us for this doesn't shock or bother me.What I will be [Removed for Content] about is if we can only mez something once, if that doesn't get fixed then.. well.. I will save the dramatics for if and when it happens. __________________ 70 Assassin Unrest Locia 58 Coercer Unrest

05-17-2006, 08:34 PM	#6
Viohlen Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 81	If every class has a form of CC chanters are useless. Reducing other classes abilities to CC makes me feel more useful. Sucks that it changes the play of other classes, but had to be done. __________________ -Viohlence

05-24-2006, 12:30 AM	#10
silentpsycho Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 636	Viohlence wrote: If every class has a form of CC chanters are useless. Reducing other classes abilities to CC makes me feel more useful. Sucks that it changes the play of other classes, but had to be done. Sorry, but our abilities to CC are being nerfed as well. Read up on LU24. __________________ Fyste, 74 Bruiser \| Dyre, 72 Assasin \| Locus 73 Defiler \| Keanu 70 Fury \| etc. {Nagafen} Bruisers... steadily taking up the rear end since LU24 --- say NO to FD NERF 2007

05-16-2006, 09:36 PM	#1
deepfree Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8	http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=54475 Please go to this link and read it. Makes you think twice about LU24.

05-16-2006, 09:45 PM	#2
Lord Montague Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 541	To give a glimmer of hope here, Moorguard did confirm that mezzes breaking when recasting a mezz and it being resisted was not intended, and a change will be made so that mezzes will only break on hostile actions that result in damage. More info here: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=54528#M54528 I think the changes clearly have quite a bit more tweaking before they go live, especially considering the vocal feeback being received.

05-16-2006, 10:13 PM	#3
deepfree Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8	Even if they fixed a lot of the stuff before they go live, it still has made people jokingly but not really say "so you are the reason LU24 is going to to nerf us". Just let us be able to particpate in raids and epics and use core CC spells. If you want to put timers on it fine but dont try to over fix something...

05-17-2006, 12:05 AM	#5
deepfree Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8	Doesn't bother me about others classes not know what we do but SOE is making it seem like they are fixing enchanters but in essence they are nerfing CC all together with all of the restriction. When all I wanted is to feel like I was contributing more to the raid using some CC spell even If it was only one CC spell. They are changing more then half of our spell from our Nukes to our CC. This is a Enchanter overhaul!!!

05-17-2006, 09:06 PM	#7
deepfree Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8	Yeah, but the Devs are nerfing our CC and our nukes at the same time. They think our CC is to strong. All we wanted was to feel more useful in raids thats it. If you reduce our CC the others that have a little CC will have to have theirs eliminate or reduced also. Its not a fix to anyone just a CC reduce across the board. I am just tired of LU24 being called a enchanter fix when its really a CC nerf...

05-17-2006, 09:44 PM	#8
Barobra Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 560	Well, techinically a fix could be a nerf. :smileyhappy:

05-23-2006, 05:32 PM	#9
ootpek Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 144	Really what happened is we asked for the DEV's to look at our stun and mez abilities on epics. Then while doing this looked at how our abilities worked on Heroics to see how they would affect Epics. During this investigation they realized that the average heroic actually spends so much time stunned and stiffled and knocked down that that Heroic mob was basically doing NOTHING to an average group. This included our stuns and other classes stuns. Realizing this they decided to look at all the classes stun and stifle abilities and what we get is a Control Revamp. It just so happens that at the same time they are doing the Control Revamp we get the ability to affect epics. So people see us getting something good and everyone else (Including us) getting a bunch of stuns nerfed and of course put 2 and 2 together which equals Blame Enchanters! Amusing really.