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Unread 09-30-2005, 01:03 AM   #1
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OK I tend to nose around all forumns and came across this thread :- http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=10&message.id=16664 I checked up on the details at ogamming and it seems the reward for the access is a level 57 master spell.  Since we only get SUnstrike this must be our master.  This is really an FYI, but also wanted to see if any wizes have done this and can confirm it?
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Unread 09-30-2005, 03:56 AM   #2
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it is true   have it waiting for me all clases 57 master is the reward for poets palace access
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Unread 10-01-2005, 11:16 AM   #3
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It is definitely true.  I got the discovery for it on Toxxulia server. Glenolas Level 54 Wizard Toxx
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Unread 10-01-2005, 03:45 PM   #4
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Yeah i got sunstrike master 1 from it. Imo it's quite lame that everyone gets a free master 1 for such an easy quest (i solo'd it except for the last encounter).
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Unread 10-01-2005, 05:08 PM   #5
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I quite like the idea that you can quest for spell upgrades but they should be quite challenging, especially for a master 1.
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Unread 10-01-2005, 06:03 PM   #6
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Unread 10-04-2005, 06:16 PM   #7
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Tanith_ wrote:
Yeah i got sunstrike master 1 from it. Imo it's quite lame that everyone gets a free master 1 for such an easy quest (i solo'd it except for the last encounter).



Those level 57 spells are quite lame so it's no biggie.  300 points more than the spell it replaces...  Certainly not going to affect your dps much.
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Unread 10-04-2005, 06:34 PM   #8
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killzone wrote:

Tanith_ wrote:Yeah i got sunstrike master 1 from it. Imo it's quite lame that everyone gets a free master 1 for such an easy quest (i solo'd it except for the last encounter).

Those level 57 spells are quite lame so it's no biggie.  300 points more than the spell it replaces...  Certainly not going to affect your dps much.

its still 300 point every 4 secs (2 cast, 2 cooldown)
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Unread 10-04-2005, 06:54 PM   #9
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killzone wrote:

Tanith_ wrote:
Yeah i got sunstrike master 1 from it. Imo it's quite lame that everyone gets a free master 1 for such an easy quest (i solo'd it except for the last encounter).



Those level 57 spells are quite lame so it's no biggie.  300 points more than the spell it replaces...  Certainly not going to affect your dps much.



Your wrong, this spell, even though it doesnt do huge damage is a big part of our dps, the short timer and lower mana consumption makes this a truely great spell. The damage isnt that bad either....
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Unread 10-06-2005, 06:41 PM   #10
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Acording to todays patch notes this quest as now been nurfed to an adept1.  Congratz to those who managed to do this already. I'm still trying to get to shimmering Citadel myself so I guess I'm out of luck again.  Not very happy about this SMILEY
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Unread 10-06-2005, 07:10 PM   #11
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OK.  I have a problem with this...

Is it Adpt 1 for all going forwards and will the other Master I revert to Adpt1?  Or is it just the fact..  Ooops  sorry.. Tough for people who do this later...

The problem is..  while its only 300DPS.  300DPS over Adpt3 is a big difference.    With a 2 sec and 2 sec cool down..  In 40 seconds I can cast this 10 times...  for 10K Damage.  Vs.  Being able to cast is 10 times for 7000 damage.    Well I would much prefer Strike cast 10 times over once cast of Ice Comet....  followed by the inevitable resists.

Gimpgae of 30%.  Ooops sorry...  but since you are not elite enough to get this done in the frist two weeks, we have now changed the rewards for any new people doing the quest.

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Unread 10-06-2005, 07:19 PM   #12
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Telcontari71 wrote:

OK.  I have a problem with this...

Is it Adpt 1 for all going forwards and will the other Master I revert to Adpt1?  Or is it just the fact..  Ooops  sorry.. Tough for people who do this later...

The problem is..  while its only 300DPS.  300DPS over Adpt3 is a big difference.    With a 2 sec and 2 sec cool down..  In 40 seconds I can cast this 10 times...  for 10K Damage.  Vs.  Being able to cast is 10 times for 7000 damage.    Well I would much prefer Strike cast 10 times over once cast of Ice Comet....  followed by the inevitable resists.

Gimpgae of 30%.  Ooops sorry...  but since you are not elite enough to get this done in the frist two weeks, we have now changed the rewards for any new people doing the quest.


Wow a tad bit of assumption here wouldn't we say?  He did not say "Master 1 Sunstrike does 300 more damage than Adept III Sunstrike". 
What was said is it had 300 more damage than the spell it REPLACES.  I have to assume that he meant it was replacing Flamestrike.  He also didn't mention what level the spell it replaces was at.  He could be referring to Adept 1/3 or Master 2 of Flamestrike.
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Unread 10-06-2005, 07:23 PM   #13
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OK.  Maybe a bit hasty here...   SMILEY   But sadly people who completed the quest before now have a spell that does more damange and has less chance to be resisted (as it is a master 1)

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Unread 10-06-2005, 07:36 PM   #14
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Yeah I'm feeling punished for not running through the game instead of taking my time and enjoying the experiance.  Same kind of deal with nerfing the silent city drops.  Those who were in there the first 2 weeks got a large number of fabled drops the cried for nerf! If I was cynical I would think this was a way of gearing up raiding guilds while everyone else is out of luck.
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Unread 10-06-2005, 08:47 PM   #15
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Fingle wrote:Acording to todays patch notes this quest as now been nurfed to an adept1.  Congratz to those who managed to do this already. I'm still trying to get to shimmering Citadel myself so I guess I'm out of luck again.  Not very happy about this SMILEY

Screw you Sony, this is bull shet.
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Unread 10-06-2005, 09:09 PM   #16
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I dont like this a bit. If you nerf something it should be a nerf for all not just for those who havent been fast enough. Since it wouldnt be possible to do in this case it would be better to just leave as it is. Poor judgement indeed.
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Unread 10-06-2005, 09:22 PM   #17
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Fingle wrote:Acording to todays patch notes this quest as now been nurfed to an adept1.  Congratz to those who managed to do this already. I'm still trying to get to shimmering Citadel myself so I guess I'm out of luck again.  Not very happy about this SMILEY

does anyone know if you keep the master 1 or if it gets converted to adept 1? as im on splitpaw  we dont get this patch til tomorrow so i want to know if its worth rushing this quest through tonight to get the master.
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Unread 10-06-2005, 09:48 PM   #18
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Do the quest fast !  Those who finished before the change still have the master.

Somehow, I knew this nerf was coming, so I finished it about a week ago. Just takes a solid group. Most are solo stuff, so doesnt take a raiding guild to do this.

 

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Unread 10-07-2005, 06:06 AM   #19
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adamflanagan wrote:

Fingle wrote:Acording to todays patch notes this quest as now been nurfed to an adept1.  Congratz to those who managed to do this already. I'm still trying to get to shimmering Citadel myself so I guess I'm out of luck again.  Not very happy about this SMILEY

does anyone know if you keep the master 1 or if it gets converted to adept 1? as im on splitpaw  we dont get this patch til tomorrow so i want to know if its worth rushing this quest through tonight to get the master.

WOOT!! just got sunstrike master1! took me about 7 hours as all the raiding guids were doing this as well and kept stealing all the updates but i finally got it. now just need 5.4 more levels til i can use it! im off to bed now as its 3.30 am.
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Unread 10-07-2005, 07:34 AM   #20
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Some numbers to feed the hungry regarding  Sunstrike and  Flamestrike: Damage range for Sunstrike     Master I is 725 - 1346.    For a 2 second cast time this will be an average DPS of  518. Damage range for Flamestrike Master I is  513 -  953.    For a 2 second cast time this will be an average DPS of  367. While neither is sky high DPS,  it remains a valuable spell because of its quick reset time.  It will be used as a filler in any sequence, waiting for BoI and Cremate to reset, after the mandatory firing of the debuff and Ice Comet.  Being heat based, it will also trigger  fiery surge when it lands, restarting the cycle for that bonus damage spell. Regarding the reward for Poet's Palace access (Be Careful What you Ask For) in Shimmering Citadel: There are several quests that reward a Adept I, and it appears this one has now become one of those vs the Master I it rewarded pre nerf.    There was nothing raid guildish about the quest...mostly solo step and fetch with occasional near full group help needed.   A well drilled duo can do it.    Those who got the master from the quest still have it.  It was not converted by the nerf to the reward, either scribed or unscribed. Glenolas Level 56 Wizard Toxxulia

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Unread 10-07-2005, 07:02 PM   #21
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The important numbers aren't the difference between Sunstrike M1 and Flamestrike M1, its the difference between Sunstrike Adept 1 and Master 1.  That will show you how much (or little) you lose by not getting the master vs the adept.
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Unread 10-08-2005, 06:43 PM   #22
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According to MG, all those who got the Master 1 will be reverted to Adept 1.
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putergod wrote:
According to MG, all those who got the Master 1 will be reverted to Adept 1.
where did Moorgard say this? the only thing ive seen MG say about this is that master 1s will not be changed back in this thread.
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nm... i misread what he said...

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Unread 10-10-2005, 02:41 AM   #25
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First ppl to do a zone always get the bugged loot.. reason why you want to level fast ;P They don't go back and revert old people.. or they would have to revert the 10000 fabled ppl got in silent city or faction isntances before they fixed the excessive master drop.

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Unread 10-10-2005, 06:50 AM   #26
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Finished PP access about a week ago, and I've had the Mater 1 Sunstrike in my pack since then. Scribed the M1 about 3 hours ago when I dinged 57.
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Unread 10-11-2005, 01:18 AM   #27
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This is Bull.  All of us that didn't finish the quest fast enough for sony should put all of our accounts on hold till they put this back in.  Either that or anyone that has the adept 3 made really get a master lvl 2.  Hell it took me two weeks till people finally figured out that we weren't really nerfed that bad and I started finding groups again.  This madness needs to stop or all I have to say is VANGUARD OR GUILD WARS!!! I'm surely not going to keep paying sony to be complete incompetents.
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Unread 10-11-2005, 03:46 AM   #28
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Sunstrike Master 1 is not that great. Get over it. If it was Ice Comet Master 1 then I'd be [Removed for Content]. But frankly, Sunstrike kinda sucks. Poet's Palace, however, looks to be a sweet grind zone for higher 50s up to 60.
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Unread 10-11-2005, 07:17 PM   #29
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Sunstrike Master 1 is awesome. Really short cast/recast time and over 1000 damage. If u add up how many times u can cast this in the time u can cast 1 ice comet u will see that this is one of our best spells and a big staple of our dps diet.

 

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Unread 10-11-2005, 11:13 PM   #30
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Wimpy damage, out of line with our level.I can do 2500pts with Ball of Incineration in the time I can do 2k with Sunstrike and BoI is lower level.
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