[Bugs] Tradeskill questline - feedback and bugs here!

Domino · 10-07-2016, 11:57 PM

Start your quests by completing "What Lies Beneath" (see the beta buffer in Village of Shin or Maldura) and then talk to Brytthel to start with "An Urgent Call".

If you get stuck or have a problem with a quest, please include this information:

What is the name of the quest?
Who gave you the quest?
What does the current step of the quest say in your journal?
What exactly isn't working or as expected?
Did you take any particular steps that made this problem happen?

10-11-2016, 06:44 PM

First question! Sorry if this isn't the right place..
In the getting started section....

What if we know goblin but also wanna learn it the new way too? Smile

Domino · 10-11-2016, 06:56 PM

This is not an option. If you don't know goblin it's just harvestables you can collect to learn it. If you do already know it, you won't even see the harvestables. Same quest, just different way of getting the updates.

Elowith · 10-11-2016, 09:24 PM

I have starters for both trade skill and adventurer quests. Upon hailing the queen in Zou... I can only progress the adventurer line. Forging Onwards wants me to bring the stone to the queen (which I have) but she doesn't respond to me for trade skill quest.

Elinea · 10-11-2016, 09:30 PM

I spent more time running for my life from bad guys than anything crafting. I'm positive I zoned into a tradeskill instance. Are we supposed to be max level adventurers too?

doit · 10-11-2016, 09:32 PM

I logged into beta with a toon that did not yet have maldura faction, so lots of guards around Brythell killed me...any way to give "good faction" to those who want to test?

10-11-2016, 09:37 PM

Pretty sure they said a pre-req for the KA stuff was to complete the ToT sig line first. that should give you some friendly faction with them...

Maybe in thinking of the adventure side?

Elinea · 10-11-2016, 09:41 PM

You have to have completed the signature quest in Terrors of Thalumbra, either crafting or adventure (or both) to continue on the KA signature lines.

10-11-2016, 10:07 PM

Per a "Welcome to Beta" post I read not too long ago:

Not sure if factions are included though.

Elinea · 10-11-2016, 10:58 PM

What is the name of the quest? Into the Spire
Who gave you the quest? Queen Alwenielle left a note that sent me to the spire.
What does the current step of the quest say in your journal? Create a distraction for the Primordial Malice guards.
What exactly isn't working or as expected? The text is very vague. I gathered from talking to Domino that I'm not supposed to kill the guards, and there's a guard in almost every room. I've moused over and clicked everything I can, but I can't figure out how to create a distraction. Found potentially explosive/flammable crates, but I can't interact with them. Found a podium that can cast spells if I find a book (which I can't). Found a room with broken portal pieces, but cannot interact with them either.
Did you take any particular steps that made this problem happen? Nothing out of the ordinary, unless killing the guards messed up the quest somehow. Since I ran into the room and wasn't expecting to see agro mobs there, I killed the first mob that I ran into, then just ran from the others.

Domino · 10-11-2016, 11:04 PM

The beta buffer gives you Maldura faction when he buffs you. If you copied an existing character, then you should already have the faction, or complete one of the entry quests from ToT (either adventure or tradeskill).

If you've done any of the tradeskill quests for the last 9 years then you should already know the answer to this, and therefore, you're either in the wrong instance or you're not thinking like the sneaky crafter you need to be to survive in an instance with hostile enemies. PS - I'll actually changing the NPCs in the Arcanna'se instance to be EPIC so it's 100% clear they are THERE TO MURDER YOU not to be killed. Hopefully that'll help clarify the situation ... BigGrin

Sounds like we may need to check if this can be handled more smoothly, but when two quests have you talk to the same person, you're always going to have to pick one to do first (or the game will have to pick that for you). Get past that stage on one of them, and you'll be able to progress the other. They're going to send you into two different instances of the spire anyway, and you'll have to choose one to do first at that point.
If you want to do both and want to experience them in the "right" order, the adventure quest is supposed to happen slightly before the tradeskill quest, story-wise. So it'll make more sense to do the adventure part first, if you choose to do both. (But either way around will work.)

Elinea · 10-11-2016, 11:21 PM

I've done all of the tradeskill quests in existence, but I think you've hit on my problem. I've always been max adventure level at the time I've run the crafting quest lines. It's been a number of years since I was a low adventure level crafter in a high level zone and I don't remember how to think like sneaky one lol.

Also, I have a bad cold fogging my brain, so I'm going to take some cold medicine, lie down for a bit to give it time to work, make some coffee, and get back to it in a bit Smile

10-11-2016, 11:35 PM

Bug: first craft "Imitation Chaos Stone", done at my house on the forge we obtained with the crafter collectibles, it did not validate the quest. Done it again at Maldura forge and it validates.

Materfarmer · 10-11-2016, 11:50 PM

There is a scroll for first distraction. I have not found recipe yet to make something to combust the pile which i assume is second distraction at this point. Raid time on reg servers so gotta pick this up later ;/

Surgeon · 10-12-2016, 12:01 AM

The Queen isn't in Zou'whatever on the 1st quest. The instance in Maldura doesn't respond/update when hailed.

10-12-2016, 12:39 AM

She's there but there's no spell book icon for location (look for the feather)

Domino · 10-12-2016, 12:51 AM

Ah, that seems to be because I specifically listed the zone it's to be completed in as Maldura. I will fix that so it can be done in zones other than Maldura. Smile

Xianthia · 10-12-2016, 01:23 AM

Quest giver Glibnox - Bone Collecting - went without an issue and completed it.

[BUG?] Scrying Eyes - assemble scrying eyes takes components chokidai bones. The bones were taken on the prior quest.
I've gone back to the gathering area as well as did a circular pattern search and no luck on any more bones.

Probably missing something or maybe the bones were supposed to stay in my inventory?

Domino · 10-12-2016, 01:34 AM

Urg, that is indeed a serious bug, the bones are not supposed to be removed yet. Have checked in a fix, but not sure which update it'll make it into.

Xianthia · 10-12-2016, 01:59 AM

Ok, thanks for that. I'll move on to adventure quest line. Smile

Elinea · 10-12-2016, 02:54 AM

Holy moly. I have literally been running around the tradeskill instance for a couple of hours trying to figure out what the 0/6 things to free the queen are. I have clicked until my mouse is about worn out. There needs to be some direction, hints in the quest language....something, to at least mitigate some of this frustration lol.

10-12-2016, 03:00 AM

minor issue:

quest giver Glibnox
not sure of the quest name (error was on completion) - quest where I gathered the slugs

Text from chat window:

you receive 1 extra Sovereign Rile for because you are a member
quest reward: Charm of Lost Things
quest reward: Sovereign Rile
Items were placed in your currency window
You say to Glibnox "Only my temper. I'll give it a try"
You already have Charm of Lost Things and can cannot have another
An error has prevented you from receiving an item required for this quest

I have the charm so it's not causing a problem.

Niami DenMother · 10-12-2016, 03:06 AM

Getting Hooked:

If you get ahead of yourself on this step by examining the recipe and going off to look for components, you can trip yourself up, but it is recoverable. Grab 3 rusty nails, run back and craft, THEN realize you need to gather 9 nails before you start crafting. The thing is that the quest counter will be on 3 bits of metal still, leaving you thinking you need to only gather 6 more. You need to gather 9 more to make up for the 3 that you already crafted with, because that premature hooking won't count as your 1/3 hooks.

Smile

Elinea · 10-12-2016, 03:45 AM

Well, at least I know I'm not going crazy. Someone helped me out with some clues on Discord chat, and it turns out the things I'm looking for aren't rendering. I'm going to copy over another crafter and start the quest again to see if I have the same problem. If I do, I'll try it from my laptop and see if it's the graphics card, the settings, or something else. Other folks seem to have no problem seeing the things I need to free the queen, so it may just be me.

edit: Thank you Sejreia!

Niami DenMother · 10-12-2016, 04:17 AM

Ignore this post, and Kelvani's post below. I see it was reported on page one. {gibber}

10-12-2016, 04:19 AM

That someone would be me. =D Yes we are both stuck on Scrying Eyes with no bones because Bone Collecting deleted them from inventory.

Elinea · 10-12-2016, 04:20 AM

Update, logged into another character, different account, same computer. The purple orbs I needed were in plain view, so it must have just been something off with the one character. I'm going to see if I can delete the quest and start it from where ever the last completed part is.

doit · 10-12-2016, 05:19 AM

ran around instance also looking for how to save queen..and make a distraction... I think it has something to do with lighting the crates on fire in the next room but just like you there is nothing clickable in the zone to light these on fire...maybe I'm bugged also or am I missing something?

Materfarmer · 10-12-2016, 05:35 AM

You are a crafter. Perhaps there is a recipe for making something in the zone go BOOM

Succulent · 10-12-2016, 05:42 AM

What is the name of the quest? Forging Onwards
Who gave you the quest? Elanluelle
What does the current step of the quest say in your journal? Queen Alwenielle awaits in the glaufaye village: Return to Queen Alwenielle
What exactly isn't working or as expected? the queen is not there, was there for previous update, but went to Elanluelle to get the spell cast on me, and upon returning to the queen she was gone, with no dialog or quest update saying she was missing or whatnot, just says to return to the queen
Did you take any particular steps that made this problem happen? No, just talked to the queen in Zou,Lidelas update with Elanluelle and went back to spot where queen was and she is gone.

Currently on step 5 of the quest

10-07-2016, 11:57 PM	#1
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Start your quests by completing "What Lies Beneath" (see the beta buffer in Village of Shin or Maldura) and then talk to Brytthel to start with "An Urgent Call". If you get stuck or have a problem with a quest, please include this information: What is the name of the quest? Who gave you the quest? What does the current step of the quest say in your journal? What exactly isn't working or as expected? Did you take any particular steps that made this problem happen?

10-11-2016, 06:56 PM	#3
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Mystfit said: ↑ “What if we know goblin but also wanna learn it the new way too? ” This is not an option. If you don't know goblin it's just harvestables you can collect to learn it. If you do already know it, you won't even see the harvestables. Same quest, just different way of getting the updates.

10-11-2016, 10:07 PM	#9
Drusi_EQ2 Active Member Posts: n/a	Per a "Welcome to Beta" post I read not too long ago: “How to set up a test character for Beta: Beta buff merchant is available at character creation points or dock points in Halas. Tradeskill beta buffer is located in the Village of Shin, and entrance to Maldura.” Not sure if factions are included though.

10-11-2016, 10:58 PM	#10
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	What is the name of the quest? Into the Spire Who gave you the quest? Queen Alwenielle left a note that sent me to the spire. What does the current step of the quest say in your journal? Create a distraction for the Primordial Malice guards. What exactly isn't working or as expected? The text is very vague. I gathered from talking to Domino that I'm not supposed to kill the guards, and there's a guard in almost every room. I've moused over and clicked everything I can, but I can't figure out how to create a distraction. Found potentially explosive/flammable crates, but I can't interact with them. Found a podium that can cast spells if I find a book (which I can't). Found a room with broken portal pieces, but cannot interact with them either. Did you take any particular steps that made this problem happen? Nothing out of the ordinary, unless killing the guards messed up the quest somehow. Since I ran into the room and wasn't expecting to see agro mobs there, I killed the first mob that I ran into, then just ran from the others.

10-11-2016, 11:04 PM	#11
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	doit said: ↑ “I logged into beta with a toon that did not yet have maldura faction, so lots of guards around Brythell killed me...any way to give "good faction" to those who want to test?” The beta buffer gives you Maldura faction when he buffs you. If you copied an existing character, then you should already have the faction, or complete one of the entry quests from ToT (either adventure or tradeskill). Elinea said: ↑ “I spent more time running for my life from bad guys than anything crafting. I'm positive I zoned into a tradeskill instance. Are we supposed to be max level adventurers too?” If you've done any of the tradeskill quests for the last 9 years then you should already know the answer to this, and therefore, you're either in the wrong instance or you're not thinking like the sneaky crafter you need to be to survive in an instance with hostile enemies. PS - I'll actually changing the NPCs in the Arcanna'se instance to be EPIC so it's 100% clear they are THERE TO MURDER YOU not to be killed. Hopefully that'll help clarify the situation ... Elowith said: ↑ “I have starters for both trade skill and adventurer quests. Upon hailing the queen in Zou... I can only progress the adventurer line. Forging Onwards wants me to bring the stone to the queen (which I have) but she doesn't respond to me for trade skill quest.” Sounds like we may need to check if this can be handled more smoothly, but when two quests have you talk to the same person, you're always going to have to pick one to do first (or the game will have to pick that for you). Get past that stage on one of them, and you'll be able to progress the other. They're going to send you into two different instances of the spire anyway, and you'll have to choose one to do first at that point. If you want to do both and want to experience them in the "right" order, the adventure quest is supposed to happen slightly before the tradeskill quest, story-wise. So it'll make more sense to do the adventure part first, if you choose to do both. (But either way around will work.)

10-11-2016, 06:44 PM	#2
Mystfit Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	First question! Sorry if this isn't the right place.. In the getting started section.... What if we know goblin but also wanna learn it the new way too?

10-11-2016, 09:24 PM	#4
Elowith Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I have starters for both trade skill and adventurer quests. Upon hailing the queen in Zou... I can only progress the adventurer line. Forging Onwards wants me to bring the stone to the queen (which I have) but she doesn't respond to me for trade skill quest.

10-11-2016, 09:30 PM	#5
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I spent more time running for my life from bad guys than anything crafting. I'm positive I zoned into a tradeskill instance. Are we supposed to be max level adventurers too?

10-11-2016, 09:32 PM	#6
doit New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I logged into beta with a toon that did not yet have maldura faction, so lots of guards around Brythell killed me...any way to give "good faction" to those who want to test?

10-11-2016, 09:37 PM	#7
Nero New Member Posts: n/a	Pretty sure they said a pre-req for the KA stuff was to complete the ToT sig line first. that should give you some friendly faction with them... Maybe in thinking of the adventure side?

10-11-2016, 09:41 PM	#8
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	You have to have completed the signature quest in Terrors of Thalumbra, either crafting or adventure (or both) to continue on the KA signature lines.

10-11-2016, 11:21 PM	#12
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Domino said: ↑ “If you've done any of the tradeskill quests for the last 9 years then you should already know the answer to this, and therefore, you're either in the wrong instance or you're not thinking like the sneaky crafter you need to be to survive in an instance with hostile enemies. PS - I'll actually changing the NPCs in the Arcanna'se instance to be EPIC so it's 100% clear they are THERE TO MURDER YOU not to be killed. Hopefully that'll help clarify the situation ... ” I've done all of the tradeskill quests in existence, but I think you've hit on my problem. I've always been max adventure level at the time I've run the crafting quest lines. It's been a number of years since I was a low adventure level crafter in a high level zone and I don't remember how to think like sneaky one lol. Also, I have a bad cold fogging my brain, so I'm going to take some cold medicine, lie down for a bit to give it time to work, make some coffee, and get back to it in a bit

10-11-2016, 11:35 PM	#13
Moss New Member Posts: n/a	Bug: first craft "Imitation Chaos Stone", done at my house on the forge we obtained with the crafter collectibles, it did not validate the quest. Done it again at Maldura forge and it validates.

10-11-2016, 11:50 PM	#14
Materfarmer New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	There is a scroll for first distraction. I have not found recipe yet to make something to combust the pile which i assume is second distraction at this point. Raid time on reg servers so gotta pick this up later ;/

10-12-2016, 12:01 AM	#15
Surgeon New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The Queen isn't in Zou'whatever on the 1st quest. The instance in Maldura doesn't respond/update when hailed.

10-12-2016, 12:39 AM	#16
Ameva New Member Posts: n/a	Surgeon said: ↑ “The Queen isn't in Zou'whatever on the 1st quest. The instance in Maldura doesn't respond/update when hailed.” She's there but there's no spell book icon for location (look for the feather)

10-12-2016, 12:51 AM	#17
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Moss said: ↑ “Bug: first craft "Imitation Chaos Stone", done at my house on the forge we obtained with the crafter collectibles, it did not validate the quest. Done it again at Maldura forge and it validates.” Ah, that seems to be because I specifically listed the zone it's to be completed in as Maldura. I will fix that so it can be done in zones other than Maldura. Surgeon said: ↑ “The Queen isn't in Zou'whatever on the 1st quest. The instance in Maldura doesn't respond/update when hailed.” Domino said: ↑ “If you get stuck or have a problem with a quest, please include this information: What is the name of the quest? Who gave you the quest? What does the current step of the quest say in your journal? ”

10-12-2016, 01:23 AM	#18
Xianthia Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Quest giver Glibnox - Bone Collecting - went without an issue and completed it. [BUG?] Scrying Eyes - assemble scrying eyes takes components chokidai bones. The bones were taken on the prior quest. I've gone back to the gathering area as well as did a circular pattern search and no luck on any more bones. Probably missing something or maybe the bones were supposed to stay in my inventory?

10-12-2016, 01:34 AM	#19
Domino Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Xianthia said: ↑ “[BUG?] Scrying Eyes - assemble scrying eyes takes components chokidai bones. The bones were taken on the prior quest. I've gone back to the gathering area as well as did a circular pattern search and no luck on any more bones. Probably missing something or maybe the bones were supposed to stay in my inventory?” Urg, that is indeed a serious bug, the bones are not supposed to be removed yet. Have checked in a fix, but not sure which update it'll make it into.

10-12-2016, 01:59 AM	#20
Xianthia Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Domino said: ↑ “Urg, that is indeed a serious bug, the bugs are not supposed to be removed yet. Have checked in a fix, but not sure which update it'll make it into.” Ok, thanks for that. I'll move on to adventure quest line.

10-12-2016, 02:54 AM	#21
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Holy moly. I have literally been running around the tradeskill instance for a couple of hours trying to figure out what the 0/6 things to free the queen are. I have clicked until my mouse is about worn out. There needs to be some direction, hints in the quest language....something, to at least mitigate some of this frustration lol.

10-12-2016, 03:00 AM	#22
Ameva New Member Posts: n/a	minor issue: quest giver Glibnox not sure of the quest name (error was on completion) - quest where I gathered the slugs Text from chat window: you receive 1 extra Sovereign Rile for because you are a member quest reward: Charm of Lost Things quest reward: Sovereign Rile Items were placed in your currency window You say to Glibnox "Only my temper. I'll give it a try" You already have Charm of Lost Things and can cannot have another An error has prevented you from receiving an item required for this quest I have the charm so it's not causing a problem.

10-12-2016, 03:06 AM	#23
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Getting Hooked: If you get ahead of yourself on this step by examining the recipe and going off to look for components, you can trip yourself up, but it is recoverable. Grab 3 rusty nails, run back and craft, THEN realize you need to gather 9 nails before you start crafting. The thing is that the quest counter will be on 3 bits of metal still, leaving you thinking you need to only gather 6 more. You need to gather 9 more to make up for the 3 that you already crafted with, because that premature hooking won't count as your 1/3 hooks.

10-12-2016, 03:45 AM	#24
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Well, at least I know I'm not going crazy. Someone helped me out with some clues on Discord chat, and it turns out the things I'm looking for aren't rendering. I'm going to copy over another crafter and start the quest again to see if I have the same problem. If I do, I'll try it from my laptop and see if it's the graphics card, the settings, or something else. Other folks seem to have no problem seeing the things I need to free the queen, so it may just be me. edit: Thank you Sejreia!

10-12-2016, 04:17 AM	#25
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ignore this post, and Kelvani's post below. I see it was reported on page one. {gibber}

10-12-2016, 04:19 AM	#26
Kelvani Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	That someone would be me. =D Yes we are both stuck on Scrying Eyes with no bones because Bone Collecting deleted them from inventory.

10-12-2016, 04:20 AM	#27
Elinea Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Update, logged into another character, different account, same computer. The purple orbs I needed were in plain view, so it must have just been something off with the one character. I'm going to see if I can delete the quest and start it from where ever the last completed part is.

10-12-2016, 05:19 AM	#28
doit New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Elinea said: ↑ “Update, logged into another character, different account, same computer. The purple orbs I needed were in plain view, so it must have just been something off with the one character. I'm going to see if I can delete the quest and start it from where ever the last completed part is.” ran around instance also looking for how to save queen..and make a distraction... I think it has something to do with lighting the crates on fire in the next room but just like you there is nothing clickable in the zone to light these on fire...maybe I'm bugged also or am I missing something?

10-12-2016, 05:35 AM	#29
Materfarmer New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	You are a crafter. Perhaps there is a recipe for making something in the zone go BOOM

10-12-2016, 05:42 AM	#30
Succulent New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	What is the name of the quest? Forging Onwards Who gave you the quest? Elanluelle What does the current step of the quest say in your journal? Queen Alwenielle awaits in the glaufaye village: Return to Queen Alwenielle What exactly isn't working or as expected? the queen is not there, was there for previous update, but went to Elanluelle to get the spell cast on me, and upon returning to the queen she was gone, with no dialog or quest update saying she was missing or whatnot, just says to return to the queen Did you take any particular steps that made this problem happen? No, just talked to the queen in Zou,Lidelas update with Elanluelle and went back to spot where queen was and she is gone. Currently on step 5 of the quest